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Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-03-2014
The usual pattern of people that care about balancing their will in line with their polarity of service:
Male incarnation -> Female incarnation -> Male incarnation -> Female incarnation
The pattern people stuck to their identity take:
Masculine Female -> Submissive Female -> Masculine Female -> Repeat
Applies the same way for males, just reverse the names.
This is very rare and often leads to great imbalances where you have significant issues in your gender roles and you may often have a bitterness against your own gender. Keep this up too far and you will have to force yourself into a gender you don't want to be, which leads to a lot of risks.
Now for the very rare negatively polarized person, they will stick to the most dominant gender possible with only the other for specialized purposes. So in human terms, only male. If you're a female, assume you're positively polarizing.
In any case, sticking to one gender can lead to you becoming overly submissive (very rare, would lead to you remaining disincarnate indefinitely at a certain point. Impossible by most standards.) or overly willful, which can lead to a regression in polarity or great instability in the will. The latter is what is avoided the most. For those still incarnating automatically, your incarnations are automatically balanced in this way by automatic resonance.
Just some fun facts. Use your discernment.
RE: Gender across incarnations - AnthroHeart - 05-03-2014
I am somewhat submissive. Though I've been known to raise my voice if someone is yelling and making me mad. Not sure if this would lead me to becoming disincarnate indefinitely. But I do desire to become disincarnate for a long time. Much needed rest.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Fang - 05-03-2014
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call these "facts".
RE: Gender across incarnations - Melissa - 05-03-2014
I take it these are personal opinionated facts or rather beliefs. My experience is that being in harmony with your essence, be it masculine or feminine, depends on how and if you choose to define/refine and accept yourself. Nitty-gritty stuff.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
I state things on a basis that truth can be inferred by the coherence of the statements and hierarchies of progression. If they cannot be directly inferred, I encourage questions.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Melissa - 05-04-2014
I'm more curious as to how this subject relates to your own process of acceptance.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
I have no gender. I never decided to have any polarity in regards to gender because I believe the social norms hindered me. I haven't embraced this until recently. I can only say my balancing is in the confines of multiple opposing biases given to me by my soul group to heal from many parts of my soul group. My situation is unique. I have simply accepted myself so far that I find gender to be a concept of separation.
When humanity accepts its genders fully they will cease to be.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Melissa - 05-04-2014
Don't you think that pointing at social norms is also a sign of seperation? Androgynous features are quite common these days but to me you're clearly a male, perhaps you lean towards a feminine essence but why would you reject that? I do see it as rejection because eventhough you may not be fond of having a gender, I don't think it's healthy or possible to deny that obvious feature as part of your human self.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Fang - 05-04-2014
To use my discernment as I am instructed to...:
Quote:I state things on a basis that truth can be inferred by the coherence of the statements and hierarchies of progression. If they cannot be directly inferred, I encourage questions.lol Why do that and then say you're providing "facts"?
Quote:I have no gender. I never decided to have any polarity in regards to gender because I believe the social norms hindered me.....My situation is unique.Hardly, regardless of whatever cosmic backstory you've carved out for yourself you're now one of the millions of individuals that now identify themselves as existing exterior to the "gender binary". It should be noted that an awfully large number of people in this demographic are tumblrcore feminists, naive teenage bandwagoners, egocentric egalitarians ("Why can't everyone be like me and save the world?") and just annoying as hell lawl. I really wish these people would just realise that social institutions are not entirely contrived lawl
Quote:I have simply accepted myself so far that I find gender to be a concept of separation.Have you accepted yourself to the point of being honest with yourself?
RE: Gender across incarnations - Rake - 05-04-2014
(05-04-2014, 04:41 AM)Adonai One Wrote: I have no gender.
You are gender.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Matt1 - 05-04-2014
What about 3rd gender? If my memory recalls doesn't Hinduism have about 18 different genders in it? Will make quite the database haha for your reincarnation theory.
RE: Gender across incarnations - reeay - 05-04-2014
Male---------------i---------------Female
You might just be in between on the continuum, which can happen if you don't identify with male or female gender. What gender can do is set up some catalyst and distortions that comes with particular gender (the gender identity and roles we are socialized into). Offers much orange and yellow ray type catalysts. If there were set patterns as you point out, how do we account for the variability of lessons that entities learn. Set sequences of incarnation (male-female-male) would seem to limit types of lessons individual entities may want to learn. Your 'theory' seems a bit too rigid and clean.
I usually take your 'facts' as more ideographic type information you've pulled from your mind.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Fang - 05-04-2014
Quote:I usually take your 'facts' as more ideographic type information you've pulled from your mind.
Lol I would say he's pulling it from somewhere else
We are given (less than) a handful of examples of STS in 3rd density and one of them is a fictional character, I don't really get people making absolute statements about that orientation as we are given so little information to begin with, it always just seems like fancy
RE: Gender across incarnations - Melissa - 05-04-2014
You mean less than a handful on this forum?
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
Facts are something with authoritative backing. I lack this concept within my epistemology. May you take solace in that I encourage you to find your own truth without a desire from me to sway you to my sets of beliefs.
RE: Gender across incarnations - zenmaster - 05-04-2014
Authority is inherently manifest by experience, regardless of appreciation within epistemology.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
If there is conviction to coherent beliefs, a commitment to a set of "knowledge."
RE: Gender across incarnations - zenmaster - 05-04-2014
Has nothing to do with knowledge or conviction. Look at the archetype, it's concomitant.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Unbound - 05-04-2014
Sweet, I'm evil, I have been male in pretty much every life on this planet.
Nevermind that I am perfectly in touch with my female inner self.
RE: Gender across incarnations - reeay - 05-04-2014
lol@tumblrcore feminist - who knows, maybe some of the men here have tumblrcore-ish feminist anima - that is surely worthy of exploration.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
(05-04-2014, 03:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Has nothing to do with knowledge or conviction. Look at the archetype, it's concomitant.
Is not knowledge an absolute?
RE: Gender across incarnations - zenmaster - 05-04-2014
(05-04-2014, 04:09 PM)Adonai One Wrote:knowledge is a collection of thought patterns. Thought patterns exist, and anything that exists is absolute. Primary to knowledge is experience which is what informs awareness. Primary to experience is refined experience which increases awareness.(05-04-2014, 03:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Has nothing to do with knowledge or conviction. Look at the archetype, it's concomitant.
Is not knowledge an absolute?
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
Saying an illusion is absolute based on its existence is perhaps a bit unwise.
To define further: Believing a negation of possible belief to be knowledge is an unwise absolute if the belief is only seen to be "truth" or "knowledge" at first glance. With this being habit, one can easily negate everything as a possible belief which is a path one could only connote as the negative polarity.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Fang - 05-04-2014
It's not an illusion because it's not "real", it's because it is an illusion; "something that deceives by producing a false or misleading impression of reality." The smoke and mirrors, as well the effects they produce, are all real.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-04-2014
I am in complete agreement.
I'll be intentionally vague with my truest point: Believing in an illusion at first glance is seeing -1 when it's truly positive 1.
RE: Gender across incarnations - zenmaster - 05-04-2014
3rd density is the most real of all densities. Here it is real.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Melissa - 05-04-2014
I have to redefine 'real' almost every day. Due to 'real life' experiences. And still, my idea of real is shattered regularly. If this is the most real density than the other densities must be made out of cardboard, so to speak. It's been quite disheartening and at times absolutely infuriating, to say the least.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Spaced - 05-05-2014
Some things I wonder about this thread: Why would you only use examples of 'very rare' cases to illustrate your theory?
The hallmark of the creator is variety, what is the use of trying to categorize things in this way and call it fact?
RE: Gender across incarnations - Parsons - 05-05-2014
(05-04-2014, 04:41 AM)Adonai One Wrote: I have no gender. I never decided to have any polarity in regards to gender because I believe the social norms hindered me. I haven't embraced this until recently. I can only say my balancing is in the confines of multiple opposing biases given to me by my soul group to heal from many parts of my soul group. My situation is unique. I have simply accepted myself so far that I find gender to be a concept of separation.
When humanity accepts its genders fully they will cease to be.
Over the past couple of years, I have been examining my gender/sexual identity. What prompted my examination was the end result of a long period of time in which I was trying to find something physically 'wrong' with me chemically/behaviorally.
Long story short, I discovered my testosterone was pretty low for an adult male. Roughly (going on memory), normal adult female is supposed to be 300-350, an adult male 750-850, and I was in the middle at 500ish. The doctor attempted to prescribe a testosterone drug, which I declined.
That resolved my quest of the mystery of some of my behavioral traits, but as I mentioned before, it made me examine my gender identity.
After a lot contemplation, I came to the conclusion that for this incarnation, I identify as a heterosexual male. However, I consider my male bias very slight; I am quite close to the center line. If I were to put my gender identity on a scale of 1-10, one being super feminine, ten being super masculine, I would be a six.
Some observations about my (yellow ray) identifications: I hate all sports, as well as action, and racing movies. However, I am not a fan of any 'chick flicks'. I dislike when other men talk to me about women in a derogatory (sexual) fashion. I also dislike it when the reverse happens. Perhaps these observations are more traits of a wanderer/awakened person, I am not sure.
Either way, I decided to remain slightly biased masculine male because I came to the conclusion that if I wanted to more feminine, I would have incarnated into a female body. If I wanted to be androgynous, I would have incarnated into a more appropriate body.
This is not a judgment of your conclusion or path, Adonai. These are simply my own personal observations. I don't find anything wrong with your conclusions. I actually seriously considered identifying androgynously.
RE: Gender across incarnations - Adonai One - 05-05-2014
The vessel is only the smallest part of the incarnative position. The vessel will not necessarily conform to the lesson's prescribed plan nor will it be a clear indicative.
This is my understanding at the very least. I find the idea of a vessel being a perfect representation of our lesson's needs to be rather mystical. I try to be as naturalistic as possible within the metaphysics I know. I find no reason to believe vessels can be highly modified beyond simple aesthetics and other configurable features without causing genetic discrepancies.
It is the biases of our will that shape our path. Any matter of vessel can accommodate that. The cultural and familial environment are far greater factors which I find overpower any need of a specific vessel especially when incarnations are in short supply in our part of the world.
Male and female biases in regards to physical gender are only relevant to me because of overpowering genetic biases and excessively strong social norms for each gender.
This can be an indicative, even then it is the most overwhelming bias as a nearly racial characteristic due to the change in genetic profile.
These biases can be unveiled or not appropriated to the self in a balanced manner, in my opinion. They are not always conformed to in the preincarnative position as a law nor expectation.