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Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-26-2014
We're in a shared reality, but how much of what we experience is really created by us? How much power do we have to make a difference in the reality that we experience?
We can get out and do things, which has an obvious causal connection. But is ever the causal connection not obvious?
If we feel powerless, does this reduce our ability to manifest? What makes us more powerful and effective of a manifestor?
If we are Infinity, and love/light and light/love, why are there rules and limits on what we create with our thoughts? Some things could never be realized in 3D given even a billion years.
I'm not worried about being able to manifest/create. But I feel sometimes powerless because of how powerful a thought really is in the grand scheme of the universe. They say thoughts are powerful, but how powerful really is our little spark of thought energy? Are there ways to increase one's resonance with intelligent infinity, to bring it forth in their thoughts?
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - sunnysideup - 04-26-2014
Quote:I'm not worried about being able to manifest/create. But I feel sometimes powerless because of how powerful a thought really is in the grand scheme of the universe. They say thoughts are powerful, but how powerful really is our little spark of thought energy?
Little drops of water make a mighty ocean. So I say yes your thoughts are powerfull and vital in the grand scheme of the universe, GW.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-26-2014
(04-26-2014, 05:16 PM)sunnysideup Wrote:Quote:I'm not worried about being able to manifest/create. But I feel sometimes powerless because of how powerful a thought really is in the grand scheme of the universe. They say thoughts are powerful, but how powerful really is our little spark of thought energy?
Little drops of water make a mighty ocean. So I say yes your thoughts are powerfull and vital in the grand scheme of the universe, GW.
Thank you. I guess without me and my thoughts, Infinity wouldn't be Infinity.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - sunnysideup - 04-26-2014
Exactly everything is connected, at least that's the way I see it. The strongest link in a chain is also the weakest.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - Unbound - 04-27-2014
(04-26-2014, 03:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: We're in a shared reality, but how much of what we experience is really created by us? How much power do we have to make a difference in the reality that we experience?
We can get out and do things, which has an obvious causal connection. But is ever the causal connection not obvious?
If we feel powerless, does this reduce our ability to manifest? What makes us more powerful and effective of a manifestor?
If we are Infinity, and love/light and light/love, why are there rules and limits on what we create with our thoughts? Some things could never be realized in 3D given even a billion years.
I'm not worried about being able to manifest/create. But I feel sometimes powerless because of how powerful a thought really is in the grand scheme of the universe. They say thoughts are powerful, but how powerful really is our little spark of thought energy? Are there ways to increase one's resonance with intelligent infinity, to bring it forth in their thoughts?
Well, if you believe the Ra Material then thought is literally all-powerful.
It is not that thoughts are not powerful or that there is limitation to our creativity, it is that we have many thoughts and so the universe receives from us many different signals as to what we actually would like to create and thus things become mixed as many different things try to manifest around eachother. It is not a matter of whether or not a thought is, in itself, powerful, but whether or not the focus of consciousness upon a thought has an effect and personally I would say it most definitely does.
I spend a lot of my day using my thoughts to empower my life. I use it to call reiki to myself and to others, as well as all other kinds of energy I work with. I use it to direct all my energy, and energy changes things inevitably. Thought is like observation, when it occurs, things change, even if only slightly. Notice your state of consciousness is constantly changing according to the thoughts you are calling.
Things tend to manifest when I make a decision and decide definitively that I would like something or to do something. I think many people have many wants and desires and although they may like to have all those many things it is fairly common for people to be unable to decide exactly what to focus on and so as focus changes, the universe tries to manifest the new focus which intercepts the process of the previous thing manifesting. That is why things sometimes don't manifest right, and also why ritual magic exists because the whole point is to create a crystal clear focus upon what is to be manifested and amplify that focus as much as possible.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. There is but one technique for this growing or nurturing of will and faith, and that is the focusing of the attention. The attention span of those you call children is considered short. The spiritual attention span of most of your peoples is that of the child. Thus it is a matter of wishing to become able to collect one’s attention and hold it upon the desired programming.
Hence the whole practice of mindfulness meditation, emptying of the mind and seeking to be in silence. In silence thought can be focused upon single-pointedly and this is what ultimately makes thought powerful.
Consider that the Earth is actually a single thought concentrated upon by the sub-sub-Logos. The Earth's consciousness is advanced enough that it can simultaneously keep the entirety of itself, its mind/body/spirit, in single-pointed awareness and that is how it creates itself. The sub-Logos, our Sun, is doing the same thing for the entire solar system, which is its one thought of Love.
That being said, our primary singular thought is our own mind/body/spirit which is the first thing we, as Creator and sub-sub-Logos, create with our thought. Well, although we might just be the Earth Logos and are part of the creation of the Earth which I what I believe is the case and why we are actually capable of impacting the collective reality with thought alone.
Focus is everything. Free Will is entirely about focus. Love is focus.
If you want to put power in to your thoughts then you need to commit to the responsibility of that thought. If you want your thoughts to manifest you can't just want it casually, as though it "would be nice", you have to make a decision, choose and command and call to that which you desire. This can be used positively or negatively and calling something you desire to yourself is not a negative thing, to make that clear. There is nothing wrong with manifesting things for yourself and I think this is one of the main barriers to many people is a feeling of "selfishness" when they are trying to manifest things for themselves, or feelings of unworthiness (which Ra says is connected to the indigo ray) as though they do not deserve the ability to have what is desired.
Now, that being said, being able to manifest and the like is considered, by Yogis, a siddhi or magic ability which comes from the seeking path and is often warned against as an "intoxication" and a distraction from the true realization. However, this is actually most common in Eastern practices whereas in the west it is often seen that the magic ability and the actual use and proper practice thereof is the key to total self-discovery. To me I think there is a global "left-hand"/"right-hand" kind of thing which correlates with the memes of ancestral tradition and memory whereby it seems western traditions often appear to be very "left-handed" (or of the feminine polarity, goddess-worship, moon aspect, yoni/chalice/vulva) and eastern ones can often be "right-handed" (masculine polarity, god-worship, sun aspect lingam/sword/phallus). Of course there are exceptions, this isn't meant to generalize just suggest a sometimes noticeable pattern.
It seems to me that the Goddess traditions tend to more be about working and discovering the inherent divinity within the human form and deep connectivity with nature, whereas God traditions tend to focus on the divinity that transcends the human form or exists as the "directive force" of nature as opposed to the nature of nature itself. In traditions with both God and Goddess you can actually see this expressed and is a deep secret of mystery schools the way the polarities function together fully.
So, that being said, thought is as powerful as your ability to focus upon any singular thought, even if that thought is complex.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - native - 04-27-2014
It's ok to let the mind flow and observe the various thoughts..they're innocent contents of all that is. What is detrimental are our perceptions, what Ra often refers to as thought forms, towards others. So it's the power or strength, or belief that we give to thought that is damaging. When we hold onto negativity, separation, or have anger towards someone or something, that is a real energy that forms our experience (catalyst) that we continue to encounter. It's of course ok to feel those things also, but the idea is to work with those feelings and attempt to find love.
"There are certain behaviors and thought-forms consonant with the understanding and practice of this law."
"However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction."
"As the entity which you are allows its being to empathize with another being, so then it may choose to share with the other-self those energies which may be salubrious to the other-self. The mechanism of these energy transfers is the thought or, more precisely, the thought-form for any thought is a form or symbol or thing that is an object seen in time/space reference."
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - zenmaster - 04-27-2014
In other words, thoughts may be shared more readily if there is resonance among them. Time/space proximity is determined by quality rather than by distance. The thought form can be a representation of a condition. And through this representation, change of the condition can be offered and manifested.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-27-2014
I focused intently on manifesting a desire, for like 30 mins. After this time I noticed my whole body was physically exhausted. I felt the energy about me thicken. I wonder if it's possible to feel a thought-form, if that's what I was doing. It was hard to keep the image still. It would sometimes move, and change. It's going to be hard to focus on a single thought that doesn't move. There's so much complexity to my desire, that it's hard to give it definition that is adequate.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - zenmaster - 04-27-2014
Are you trying to manifest a desire which is not supported by experience? Defining a desire is the creation of experience.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-27-2014
I could focus on manifesting a million dollars and that wouldn't be supported by experience. Isn't the point of manifestation to bring into being that which has not yet been experienced?
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - zenmaster - 04-27-2014
(04-27-2014, 11:58 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I could focus on manifesting a million dollars and that wouldn't be supported by experience.Yes and what would be the result?
(04-27-2014, 11:58 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Isn't the point of manifestation to bring into being that which has not yet been experienced?Experience can have the connotation of perception and the connotation of integrated awareness. Experience, as in the archetype of experience from Ra, is of the later type.
If you don't know what some desire is, how do you recognize its fulfillment? If you don't know what question you are asking, how can you possibly receive the answer?
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - manniz - 04-27-2014
Tanner, I will praise your post one last time, because I know how awkward praise can feel for some. I run away from praise. Which is not good in corporate circles, because there everyone is scheming all day to get praise from the higher ups (little sad to see 50+, 60+ people doing it).
Anyways, that was a very good post. I got nothing to add, but would add my recent thoughts on something similar, with a personal perspective.
I was not born in a Hindu family, yet was surrounded by that culture during my early years. Currently, a substantial amount of the Hindu religious culture is stagnant, as in filled with superstitions, blind worship, authoritarian traits etc. However, there were always gems that would pop up from ancient Eastern traditions, but I forgot about them, as I focused on education, general life struggle.
Ra material opened many windows and made me think about Earth's cultures, religions and history from a different perspective. Basically approach some aspect of life form different angles. It also helped that at this time, I do not see myself belonging to any culture, religion, ethnicity etc. Just a regular being. That alone opens so many windows.
So, I read some really ancient stuff from Eastern traditions, which has largely been forgotten or misunderstood over the centuries. In India, I found so much interesting stuff, which existed in ancient times, when the term Hindu did not even exist. Those philosophies simply refer to Dharma (Spirituality) and talk in universal terms. I learned exactly what you referred to. The whole focusing on what you are learning and approach creator/creation independently, confidently. And, I did notice the difference between the masculine and feminine approaches.
Looks like the older Eastern traditions did emphasize the masculine aspect, but also talked about balancing the feminine aspect throughout. You cannot let one overwhelm the other. Once you establish the harmony between those two aspects of your philosophy (essentially your self), it is fair to explore more of one aspect, with continuous balancing.
I also noticed that somewhere between 500 BC and 500 AD, lots of the ancient Eastern traditions in India were overtaken by the Goddess traditions, and at the same time masculine spiritual concepts were converted into masculine material activities. Which led to caste system, Brahmins controlling the religious traditions, stagnancy of spiritual discourse. Slowly in many areas (not all) the concept of confident spiritual exploration was turned into blind worship of the established spirituality. Defense and spiritual warrior traditions were substituted for following religious authorities. Spirituality focused on magic and trying to impress the external world. Tantra was seen as a way to gain powers, gain benefits over others, when it was supposed to be about mastering your own mind. Lots of tantra worship involves worshiping Goddesses. Goddesses that represented principles and philosophies now represented material concepts of wealth, beauty and power. Funny thing is the language that was used was largely of love, nature and righteousness.
And, no wonder, India was soon overtaken by Muslim invaders and later British imperialism.
You guys may have noticed how many Indians are really nice people, but sometimes tend to be meek, very reluctant to explore unconventional ideas (lots of good family traditions though). So, even when India became independent, it was immediately taken over by corruption and control/power interests. Religion for the vast majority over there is simply blind worship, superstitions, and praying to get better lives. Western New Age people often give wrong impression of the rosy things over there. They often see India in the way they want to see it, because of their own spiritual mindset. Lots of love filled missionaries and New Age people love India, but use so much empty analysis and empty phrases to explore things there. Which is not bad. Always good to see love, but it definitely reduces the quality of analysis.
Evidence for this conflict between over-dominance of feminine spiritual traditions (which funnily is exploited by male leaders in India), and the ancient balanced approach (though masculine focused) - the evidence is the heart-breaking poverty, almost no desire to challenge things (changing recently), ranking worse than the whole of Africa combined together in pollution, hunger, slavery, torture, suicides, diseases etc.
So, anyways Tanner, the second part of your post did teach me something that I have experienced over the years, but not really explored spiritually. The first part was good too. Some of the western spiritual traditions and many of the new Age communities do ignore the divinity that transcends the human form (that was a good phrase). They love this concept of the all-loving God, but are subtly afraid of questions and challenges. And, they do have some authoritarian tendencies, but presented in a genuine loving manner. Lots of good stuff too, such as respect for nature, seeing love everywhere.
The trick is balance. It is fair to explore one side of divinity more than other (masculine vs. feminine). However, continuous balancing should not be ignored. Also, we should not be obsessed about maintaining some perfect 50:50 relationship either. Once the love has been learned as a rock-solid base, good to explore the spiritual warrior in us that wants to learn, and learn more. On the other hand, fair to focus on love, nature, harmony etc. but not expect the creation around you to conform. It is absolutely fair to learn the requisite amount, and beyond that focus more on love than learning. However, please do not expect the whole creation to follow that model.
For example, an entity that evolved through love filled third density may focus more on love and harmony than questions and challenges. Entity that evolved through harsher conditions (or the sixth density STS turning to positive) may focus on learning more and more, while trying to see love in all. Both approaches are fair. They got their own ways to maintain balance. Neither one is higher or lower. I do see insecurities in some about the other approaches, other expressions, however we all got insecurities and at some point we will all resolve them. It would be interesting to know what kinda chinks guardians have in their armor (from the next octave).
Just for fun and learning though, not trying to be more special than anyone. Those over-emphasizing masculine approach do have a tendency to see themselves as special, but that is fair in balance too, since it leads to excellent creativity and presents new faces of the creation. At the end of the day, we all have masculine and feminine concepts inherent in us. Not good to hide either. Just the time of the day, coffee, dogs, our relationships etc. can make us wobble between these two concepts. But then, this wobble was deliberately let lose by the infinite creator. Tanner, I ignored the ancient eastern traditions for a long time (because the current state of Indian system disappointed me), but recently i have found some excellent material in them. If you are ever interested, try to find some work on Shiva MahaPurana (I read a version of vanamali, a female author). it has some beautiful parts, especially the version of creation. So much stuff matches with Ra material, and explains far more too ( I bet Ra knows all of that, but in spite of his excellent efforts, Don's questions could have covered only so much of the creation).
I like the idea of Shiva, Vishnu and Brahma mode in all of us. Sadly, they are seen as these individualized entities by most India, as gods to ask favors from, with their own God drama. tanner, related to the inner warrior post that you talked about few weeks ago, you may like some of the Shiva concepts. Maybe you already know a lot about them.
In summary, some overemphasize focus on your Chakras, prayers, obsessive maintenance of calm and love in our mind's ocean. In the infinite creation, there is lots of room for initiating some storms in your mind's ocean, and learning from the resulting chaos and creativity. I guess balance is, when we can maintain calm while observing the storms and learning from the storms.
Even if some of us want to exclusively focus on peace, chakras, calm etc. we should accept the desire of other to find their own ways through their own storms. Even the storms that they may create for us.
Gemini, sorry for sidestepping on your thread, but I know you won't mind.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-27-2014
I'd love to see a thread on Shiva MahaPurana, and how it relates to Creation. Would like to learn things that the Ra material didn't cover. Thanks manniz.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - manniz - 04-27-2014
(04-27-2014, 01:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'd love to see a thread on Shiva MahaPurana, and how it relates to Creation. Would like to learn things that the Ra material didn't cover. Thanks manniz.
Gemini, see if you can find this book in your local library or online - Stories and Teachings of Shiva Mahapurana by Vanamali. It has an interesting mix of philosophies and mythological stories as imagined by humans on Earth.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-27-2014
(04-27-2014, 01:28 PM)manniz Wrote:(04-27-2014, 01:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'd love to see a thread on Shiva MahaPurana, and how it relates to Creation. Would like to learn things that the Ra material didn't cover. Thanks manniz.
Gemini, see if you can find this book in your local library or online - Stories and Teachings of Shiva Mahapurana by Vanamali. It has an interesting mix of philosophies and mythological stories as imagined by humans on Earth.
Ordered off Amazon. So it's got some good philosophies on creation, doesn't it?
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - native - 04-27-2014
(04-27-2014, 11:12 AM)zenmaster Wrote: In other words, thoughts may be shared more readily if there is resonance among them. Time/space proximity is determined by quality rather than by distance. The thought form can be a representation of a condition. And through this representation, change of the condition can be offered and manifested.
That's one aspect, yes.
Using another time/space analogy, two cannot share a mind unless there is first an identification with the other in some form. So when experience is used to see yourself in the other, it's as if you are traveling and closing the gap in space/time between each other, bringing time/space into being. Ra calls that merging.
"The understanding, experiencing, accepting, and merging of self with self and with other-self, and finally with the Creator, is the path to the heart of self."
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - manniz - 04-27-2014
Tanner, many spiritual seekers have a disliking for spiritual concepts related to Sword, spiritual warrior etc. I think they misinterpret them as aggression, unloving etc. Metaphysically, the sword that is raised to defend the weak and the loving turns into a blade of intellect, questioning and analysis, as a seeker rises beyond polarities.
Even in third density the physical sword is supposed to be raised not for control and power, but for defending your path from violent aggression, from forced domination. I am assuming that in the worlds, where there was not much violence, many entities graduated quickly, and were filled with love. Such entities may be sensitive to certain ideas in third density incarnations when they comeback as wanderers, which is absolutely fine. They have got their own paths, and may already be in sixth density and on their way to balance.
However, it would be a good thing for them to learn to not actively dislike intensity, questioning, criticism, the metaphysical spiritual warrior concept etc. But accept their presence, and if interested understand them. If they are not interested, fair for them to ignore these aspects of spiritual seeking. They cannot wish them away from existence though. They do not have to delve into them, but won't hurt to accept their inevitability in many other spiritual paths. And their role in the infinity's experience and understanding of itself.
Maybe their higher density selves do, but their third density Avatars are reluctant due to third density confusion, stresses of life, obsession about constant love, comfort etc. I would imagine sixth density entities would be far more open and relaxed, once they are beyond third density. Only reason I am using sixth density as a reference is because that is a the density I have seen most often being claimed by spiritual seekers online. And, Ra said most of the wanderers are from that density.
I am just surprised by their low tolerance. From how Ra described it, sixth density should be more open and balanced, but then the third density veil can do magical things to our personalities.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-27-2014
Good thing I checked back again, manniz since you added to your post. More nuggets of wisdom. I find that people at times will add to their post, so sometimes I like to read back. The book I ordered you recommended cost only $8 plus postage. My own book which I published would have cost $35 because of self publishing. I wish I hadn't gone that route because it just went out of print.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - manniz - 04-27-2014
(04-27-2014, 02:26 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Good thing I checked back again, manniz since you added to your post. More nuggets of wisdom. I find that people at times will add to their post, so sometimes I like to read back. The book I ordered you recommended cost only $8 plus postage. My own book which I published would have cost $35 because of self publishing. I wish I hadn't gone that route because it just went out of print.
Self publishing sucks, other than for the lucky few. Does not matter, if it went out of print, atleast you got to write it. That is good enough. There are going to be lots of excellent books that people wrote, and the movies they made in their heads that did not get publicized. Gemini, atleast you as the creator got to write it and read it for yourself.
(04-27-2014, 01:33 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:(04-27-2014, 01:28 PM)manniz Wrote:(04-27-2014, 01:17 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'd love to see a thread on Shiva MahaPurana, and how it relates to Creation. Would like to learn things that the Ra material didn't cover. Thanks manniz.
Gemini, see if you can find this book in your local library or online - Stories and Teachings of Shiva Mahapurana by Vanamali. It has an interesting mix of philosophies and mythological stories as imagined by humans on Earth.
Ordered off Amazon. So it's got some good philosophies on creation, doesn't it?
Gemini, it deals more with mythologies. However, the chapter on creation is very interesting. I got it from the library, and those 3-4 pages were worth it for me. Most of the other parts show how ancient philosophies have evolved into human myths and stories. Could be interesting for those in to mythology and fantasies. Good artists could do a decent job of illustrating some of the stories. Lots of religious art in India tends to be gawdy.
Good thing is that many mythological stories can be reverse engineered into philosophies. Now that you have already ordered it, if nothing else this book will give you a decent ground for imagination. The few pages on creation are really good, if you think about them in peace. The best approach to creation in my opinion. Helps you in imagining creator as the aware infinity, as an idea, and see how it manifests into the infinite reality based on the highest Gunas (principles).
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - Unbound - 04-27-2014
Manniz, it's people like you that really encourage me to keep posting and sharing my ideas. I not only accept your praise, but I return it to you in kind. I enjoy your posts and discourse very much.
I admit that for myself I hold a view which is inclusive of both the idea of symbolic philosophy and literal entities. Many of the beings and deities which some view as purely symbolic, I also see as literal, and some who are seen as mostly literal I can see symbolically. Mythology is, to me, the history of the "Dreamtime" (to use an Australian Aborgine's term), the history of the other densities as they have been experienced by many levels of entities. I still have an idea to do a world map but instead of what we see here do "the next dimension up" and show like Shambhala, Valhalla, Mounds of the Sidhe, Mt. Olympus, the Halls of Amenti, etc, etc.
I will definitely check that book out (or rather add it to my list as I have tons of books to read aha) and I do know an amount about the concepts of Shiva, Vishnu and Kali, whereas I see Brahma as being "the one" and Shiva, Vishnu and Kali as "the trinity". Shiva is very interesting because philosophically Shiva is the absolute subjective self which is not "separated" per se but is completely and entirely subjective which is why Shiva is also the basis of the powers of sovereignty and self-mastery.
You are right about perceptions of the traditions of the blade always tying it to militant ideas or the conquering aspect of war and the blade, rather than focusing on the protective aspect or most important the aspect of empowerment through authority and sovereignty. This is seen most obviously in the Grail Saga of King Arthur whom was made king by the claiming of the sword Clarent from the Sword in the Stone which shows his right and capacity to reign as king. This sword of Excalibur which is the twin to the sword Clarent and its opposite was then given to him by the Lady of the Lake (I also see this as an allegory to the awakening of the adept who then grasps the power of both hands, both polarities with choice) to balance out the power of Clarent which, though is the test of a true king, is also the downfall of that king should his courage ever wane. In this, Clarent can be seen as a force like Kali which renews and takes away, bestows and destroys, gives power but at a cost.
Therefore, Clarent as a gift of collective power bestowed by the Gods, and taken thereof, Excalibur is like Shiva and represents the ultimate sovereignty of the individual self which fully grasps the honour/duty of that power. Clarent is a feminine sword in that it represents the ultimate potential to rule, the well of "authority" from which to draw, whereas Excalibur represents the potential made kinetic, the activation and utilization of that sovereignty.
This is just one example of a tradition involving swords which, I believe, has been severely distorted and is just one in the myriads of sword mythologies which has been interpreted.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - manniz - 04-27-2014
Tanner, I like your approach to mythology. As in lots of mythology could be closer to the literal truth. Sometimes that is how I imagine lots of 4th density interactions. I know many spiritual seekers think they are above the 4th density's love and passion, but I can see it bringing in lots of creativity and intensity.
Mythology is something that I may explore in future, but in calmer times. It would be damn interesting to know what variety of mythologies have been created in the countless number of third density planets. And, how they related to literal truth. Hopefully in future.
In India, lots of people think obsessively about their Gods. As in Shiva, Vishnu are theirs, better than other Gods. They represent universal principles, and quite often I see the Shiva concept repeated in European mythology. You may be interested to know that the famous psychiatrist, Jung, had a NDE experience where he saw a meditating figure of krishna, Shiva. I forgot exactly which, but something similar. I was flabbergasted, when I found out about it, and rest of the extraordinary history of Jung's paranormal experiences. Because Jung is such a respected figure in lots of academia, and his ideas are used to define many psychiatric principles by psychiatrists, who would have nothing to do with any paranormal, metaphysical ideas. If anybody is bored someday, google Jung and his paranormal experiences, nde etc.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - anagogy - 04-27-2014
(04-26-2014, 03:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: We're in a shared reality, but how much of what we experience is really created by us? How much power do we have to make a difference in the reality that we experience?
Everything that you experience is being attracted to your consciousness by virtue of the dominant vibrations you are habitually activating through your attention (thoughts).
(04-26-2014, 03:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: We can get out and do things, which has an obvious causal connection. But is ever the causal connection not obvious?
Like, as in, not through the mechanism of your own physical body?
Sure, all the time.
(04-26-2014, 03:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: If we feel powerless, does this reduce our ability to manifest? What makes us more powerful and effective of a manifestor?
Yes, the feeling of powerlessness is very much at the lower end of deliberate creation of one's reality scale. The emotions that you feel are your physical perception of the variance between how your Higher Self is thinking or viewing the subject of what you're thinking about, and your perspective on the situation. You perceive the separation of your thoughts and the Higher Self's thoughts as negative, or discordant emotion. So when you are feeling powerless, it would be indicative that you are holding thoughts that are very different from what your Higher Self is giving its attention to.
What makes you a more deliberate creator of your own reality, is paying attention to your emotions. When you are able to give your attention predominately to what your Higher Self is giving its attention to, you have the benefit of its powerful momentum of thought, which is always geared towards what you are consciously and unconsciously desiring.
One of its predominant functions is to act as an emotional beacon for thoughts that will bring you into vibrational alignment with what you are really desiring.
(04-26-2014, 03:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: If we are Infinity, and love/light and light/love, why are there rules and limits on what we create with our thoughts? Some things could never be realized in 3D given even a billion years.
Limits give flavor to reality. Without limits you would become bored very quickly, even if you are thinking otherwise. Limits empower creativity and shape experience. And a great deal can be realized in "3D". That vibrational spectrum includes nearly anything that is imaginable by a 3rd density being.
It is true that our portion of 3rd density that dips into red ray physical expression has certain physical properties that are very consistent, but there are infinite realities. Ours is not the only 3rd density expression there is. There are countless others. Some physical, with a different physics than we are accustomed to, and some not so physical.
(04-26-2014, 03:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm not worried about being able to manifest/create. But I feel sometimes powerless because of how powerful a thought really is in the grand scheme of the universe. They say thoughts are powerful, but how powerful really is our little spark of thought energy? Are there ways to increase one's resonance with intelligent infinity, to bring it forth in their thoughts?
Keep in mind that each portion of the whole contains the whole within it. Oneness is always the case, and separation is an illusion generated by vibrational offering. So "portions" are an illusion. Reality is always coalescing about your consciousness based on the vibrations that are activated. However, you only have access to thoughts that are relatively close to where you are currently at. You can't really think thoughts that are drastically different from your habitual vibrational offering. So often there is a gradual tuning to the vibration of what is wanted.
"The source of all distortions is the limit of the viewpoint."
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - zenmaster - 04-27-2014
(04-27-2014, 01:39 PM)Icaro Wrote: Using another time/space analogy, two cannot share a mind unless there is first an identification with the other in some form.How do you define "identification". Psychologically, that's an unconscious perception, meaning very little time/space communication is possible.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - native - 04-28-2014
(04-27-2014, 10:29 PM)zenmaster Wrote: How do you define "identification". Psychologically, that's an unconscious perception, meaning very little time/space communication is possible.
It could be various things related to love in the traditional sense of acceptance and forgiveness (green ray activation). There might be a recognition of traits within you that tended to always be rejected, or a general sensing that acceptance/forgiveness is a step in the right direction related to wholeness that isn't yet fully understood. A person might sense that people or situations aren't necessarily conditional, meaning life is often relative which is certainly a movement away from linear space/time thinking and towards quality of being. They may have a sense that those "conditions" involved the self, personally or on a social level based on decisions made..an identification. This could eventually evolve into more adept workings of seeing your mirror.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-28-2014
I never would have thought that mythology had a basis in reality. It's hard to know whether to take it literally. It's going to be interesting reading those stories from Shiva. I now agree that thoughts are powerful, but it's hard to hold a steady thought in order to manifest a desire.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - Unbound - 04-28-2014
(04-28-2014, 03:08 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I never would have thought that mythology had a basis in reality. It's hard to know whether to take it literally. It's going to be interesting reading those stories from Shiva. I now agree that thoughts are powerful, but it's hard to hold a steady thought in order to manifest a desire.
That is why you cannot become an adept "just because", it takes practice, will and dedication.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-28-2014
Is it possible to become an adept by yourself without a mentor?
Does adepthood require initiation and the "dark night of the soul"?
Does an adept consciously use intelligent energy?
Has an adept tapped intelligent infinity?
Thanks Tanner and anagogy and everyone for responding to my original inquiry.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - Ashim - 04-28-2014
(04-28-2014, 03:36 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Is it possible to become an adept by yourself without a mentor?No, yes, yes, yes.
Does adepthood require initiation and the "dark night of the soul"?
Does an adept consciously use intelligent energy?
Has an adept tapped intelligent infinity?
Thanks Tanner and anagogy and everyone for responding to my original inquiry.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - Unbound - 04-28-2014
If not for my mentors I wouldn't be anywhere close to where I am at this point. I think the service of teach/learning can never be too appreciated.
RE: Do thoughts really create our reality? - AnthroHeart - 04-28-2014
I don't have access to mentors. And wouldn't know who to go out and seek. Nor how much it would cost. I don't have the money to seek out adepthood. But it's something that would scare me a bit, because of having to really face the self. Ra said something about not being ready to face the self for the first time.