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In the Beginning Was the Word - caycegal - 12-31-2013
"Words" are a technology created by our logos. True or false?
Do "words" exist in 4th and higher densities?
If not, is there any way we can comprehend the thought or mind structure availlable in these densities?
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - βαθμιαίος - 12-31-2013
In Greek, logos means word, so I understand "in the beginning was the word" to mean in the beginning was the Logos.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - zvonimir - 12-31-2013
Synchronicity at work again , just reading a book i posted excerpt from and is addressing your inquiry ,maybe it can be helpful to you.
words are principles in this theory each letter has a meaning....try to decifer "Word" from it and see where it will lead us.
“According to the method of reading the numerica' value of letters by the Kabala, M and E figure B, when united. Our B is from the Hebrew Beth, meaning a house or temple—the temple of the spiritual ego—the body. Thus by coming into the realization that the body is really the Father's House, temple of God, the spirit secures peace and contentment or rest.
“JESUS, JEHOVAH, JOB and other scientific formulas were never Intended “for pronunciation as a word, but like the chemical formula of water, HjO, were intended to express principles.”
“Before the Neophyte can fully realize the power of the Divine Eye within his own brain, he must understand the meaning of Or especially in its relation to Word and Jordan.
lordan (not Jordan) is the word in the original text. I is from lod—the 10th letter of Hebrew Alphabet, and means "hand'' or that which creates Or is gold, not metal, but the "precious substance"—the seed. Dan is Hebrew for Judge, therefore the Creative Power operating through the precious substance produces Judgment, or the man of good judgment”
Excerpt From: Carey, George W. (George Washington), 1845-1924. “The wonders of the human body, physical regeneration according to the laws of chemistry and physiology.” Los Angeles, Cal., The Chemistry of Life Co.,
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - native - 12-31-2013
"That which fourth density is not: it is not of words, unless chosen. It is not of heavy chemical vehicles for body complex activities. It is not of disharmony within self. It is not of disharmony within peoples. It is not within limits of possibility to cause disharmony in any way."
"It has been our supposition, which we share with you as long as you are aware that this is mere opinion, that our Logos was interested in, shall we say, further intensifying the veiling process by offering to the third-density form the near complete probability for the development of speech taking complete precedence over concept communication or telepathy. We also have the supposition that the so-called opposable thumb was looked upon as an excellent means of intensifying the veiling process so that rather than rediscovering the powers of the mind the third-density entity would, by the form of its physical manifestation, be drawn to the making, holding, and using of physical tools."
There was also a statement saying how the thoughts and feelings of others are known, so there is a type of unified mind. You could call words a type of approach. My experience has been that you can catch glimpses of the mind structure you speak of by studying the archetypal mind and paying attention to the symbolic nature of catalyst.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - Bat - 12-31-2013
Perhaps it was the image and not the word.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - Fastidious Emanations - 12-31-2013
i literally don't have to do anything it seems haha ty friends
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - Horuseus - 12-31-2013
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." - John 1:1.
Note that 'Word' is translated from Logos as has been mentioned, with the Greek derivative also representing 'thought' as another translation, which makes more sense. Thoughts are in essence words, yet not to confuse this with the Human construct.
This sentence now makes more sense:
"In the beginning was the Thought, and the Thought was with God, and the Thought was God." - John 1:1.
In light of this statement from the Ra Material, among many other theosophical works where 'Thought Manifest' (Word made flesh) is a central concept.
“All things, all of life, all of the creation is part of one original thought.” - 1.0.
Thoughts carry a certain frequency. Spoken thoughts (In the form of a sentence comprised of words) may be seen as distorted translations of that thought in the audible spectrum, though the concept is essentially the same. Now there's also 'words' as in the Human construct we have invented in order to facilitate a form of communication. In this context words are simply symbols which convey and evoke certain concepts within the recipient. I suppose communication going into 4D would be more along the lines of what may be seen as 'telepathy' and conscious networking between the hive social collective rather than 'spoken sentences', which is somewhat inefficient.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - Spaced - 12-31-2013
This is copy/pasted from a site I found thru google. I really like this explanation of the term logos as used in the gospel of John.
Quote:The following remarks on the word λόγος in John 1:1 are from Marvin R. Vincent, Word Studies in the New Testament, vol. 2 (New York: Scribners, 1887), pp. 25-33.
This expression is the keynote and theme of the entire gospel. Λόγος is from the root λεγ, appearing in λεγω, the primitive meaning of which is to lay: then, to pick out, gather, pick up: hence to gather or put words together, and so, to speak. Hence λόγος is, first of all, a collecting or collection both of things in the mind, and of words by which they are expressed. It therefore signifies both the outward form by which the inward thought is expressed, and the inward thought itself, the Latin oratio and ratio: compare the Italian ragionare, "to think" and "to speak."
As signifying the outward form it is never used in the merely grammatical sense, as simply the name of a thing or act (επος, ονομα, ρημα), but means a word as the thing referred to: the material, not the formal part: a word as embodying a conception or idea. See, for instance, Matthew 22:46; 1 Corinthians 14:9, 19. Hence it signifies a saying, of God, or of man (Matthew 19:21, 22; Mark 5:35, 36): a decree, a precept (Romans 9:28; Mark 7:13). The ten commandments are called in the Septuagint, οἱ δέκα λόγοι, "the ten words" (Exodus 34:28), and hence the familiar term decalogue. It is further used of discourse: either of the act of speaking (Acts 14:12), of skill and practice in speaking (Ephesians 6:19), or of continuous speaking (Luke 4:32, 36). Also of doctrine (Acts 18:15; 2 Timothy 4:15), specifically the doctrine of salvation through Christ (Matthew 13:20-23; Philippians 1:14); of narrative, both the relation and the thing related (Acts 1:1; John 21:23; Mark 1:45); of matter under discussion, an affair, a case in law (Acts 15:6; 19:38).
As signifying the inward thought, it denotes the faculty of thinking and reasoning (Hebrews 4:12); regard or consideration (Acts 20:24); reckoning, account (Philippians 4:15, 17; Hebrews 4:13); cause or reason (Acts 10:29).
John uses the word in a peculiar sense, here, and in ver. 14; and, in this sense, in these two passages only. The nearest approach to it is in Revelation 19:13, where the conqueror is called the Word of God; and it is recalled in the phrases Word of Life, and the Life was manifested (1 John 1:1, 2). Compare Hebrews 4:12. It was a familiar and current theological term when John wrote, and therefore he uses it without explanation.
source: http://www.bible-researcher.com/logos.html
So logos as used in Hellenistic Judaism at the time the gospels were written meant not only the act of uttering a word, but the collection of ideas and the attempt to translate meaning into communicable forms which preceeds speech. It is the symbol that is the word and the meaning which that symbol points to.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - Rake - 01-03-2014
"I am the word" A channeled text by Paul Selig. I found this book very useful as it helps you work through different areas and aspects of the self. A lot of the book helps you align yourself to the word through frequency. It's hard for me to explain fully but it's an excellent book and I would suggest that the 'word' is perhaps the 'frequency' or vibration of the creator. Just a thought but you feel the effects of the book almost instantly as it works on a vibrational/frequency level as well as consciously with the reader.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - AnthroHeart - 01-03-2014
I used to have John Chapter 1 memorized.
RE: In the Beginning Was the Word - falcor - 01-07-2014
logos means/is the creative principle. i think 'word' was placed in there as there isnt an accurate word in english to translate this directly over from greek. of course, all words are just words and are limited to our perception/definition
from what i remember reading, the dewey larson physics state that love is the vibration which forms light and all energy. i agree that 'the word' is vibration
from the bhagavad gita, it says the first sounds in creation were 'om tat sat' per Ra, sanskrit came directly from the logos.