(01-04-2009, 05:02 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: I love the time lateral aspect, but it's such an abstract concept to me. And then there's the concept of free will. Wasn't it an impingement upon my free will to put me on a lateral so that I could live without as much STS catalyst? Of course, I am super grateful and will take any circumstance that helps me to polarize towards STO, but I find it difficult sometimes to read about all of these "provisions" and "tweaks" made to us in order for us to travel a different path.

Has anyone else tripped across this kinda-paradox-maybe?

Steve

(01-04-2009, 05:11 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: One other interesting aspect to the time lateral concept is whether or not we are going to get "jostled around" as we merge back with our truly natural space/time time line. I read that depending on how close we can get humanity to vibrate in the green ray space, will shape the way Gaia finishes adjusting the energies for us in the form of natural phenomenon.

There's a second part of this as well that's worth thinking about.

Let's take the assumption that somewhere along 3rd density, it was determined that humanity was not advancing enough so we were all flipped up onto some protected time track. We'll call the lateral time track "Timeline B" and Gaia's natural timeline as "Timeline A".

So like... What's been happening all this time in Timeline A? Has anyone been living there, being affected by STS entities while we have been enjoying life in Timeline B?

And what happens when both timelines meet? Obviously one would be heavily biased with more STO experiences, while Timeline A is presumed to be chock full of the STS crew who wants to enslave. When this all comes together at Winter Equinox of 2011/2012, doesn't it seem like there's a bit of a contrast that is suddenly going to come together? It doesn't seem like it's something that would just blend back into the natural timeline unless Timeline A has always been empty.

Hmmm..

(01-04-2009, 12:38 PM)DreamingPeace Wrote:

(01-04-2009, 05:02 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: I love the time lateral aspect, but it's such an abstract concept to me. And then there's the concept of free will. Wasn't it an impingement upon my free will to put me on a lateral so that I could live without as much STS catalyst? Of course, I am super grateful and will take any circumstance that helps me to polarize towards STO, but I find it difficult sometimes to read about all of these "provisions" and "tweaks" made to us in order for us to travel a different path.

Has anyone else tripped across this kinda-paradox-maybe?

Steve

No, not really. I kinda assumed it was stated in the 'terms and conditions' of the original contract.

We did sign up for this assignment, knowing that there could be some, er, twists and turns along the way!

The way I see, we got off cheap. Think of what could have gone down in the last 30 years! We (meaning all of us who have raised the vibration in some way, including Wanderers and everyone else who has prayed, etc.) have averted much...

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(01-04-2009, 05:11 AM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: One other interesting aspect to the time lateral concept is whether or not we are going to get "jostled around" as we merge back with our truly natural space/time time line. I read that depending on how close we can get humanity to vibrate in the green ray space, will shape the way Gaia finishes adjusting the energies for us in the form of natural phenomenon.

There's a second part of this as well that's worth thinking about.

Let's take the assumption that somewhere along 3rd density, it was determined that humanity was not advancing enough so we were all flipped up onto some protected time track. We'll call the lateral time track "Timeline B" and Gaia's natural timeline as "Timeline A".

So like... What's been happening all this time in Timeline A? Has anyone been living there, being affected by STS entities while we have been enjoying life in Timeline B?

And what happens when both timelines meet? Obviously one would be heavily biased with more STO experiences, while Timeline A is presumed to be chock full of the STS crew who wants to enslave. When this all comes together at Winter Equinox of 2011/2012, doesn't it seem like there's a bit of a contrast that is suddenly going to come together? It doesn't seem like it's something that would just blend back into the natural timeline unless Timeline A has always been empty.

Hmmm..

OK I'm confused here...I just re-read the transcript yesterday and I understood that the original timeline (A) was the one that was clean of so much STS interference...while timeline B is the one that STS had a shot at taking over...and that they tried to arrange a 'coup' to keep us from re-joining timeline A.

Did I get that backwards? I'll go back and re-read it...

Also, there has been some confusion about whether it's Solstice 2011 (thus the end of 2011 and 2012 heralding 4D in full force) or Solstice 2012 (the end of 2012)...I have heard it stated both ways but had concluded it was Solstice 2012. Can anyone clarify this?

(01-04-2009, 11:27 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Well, from the transcripts, the natural Timeline A is the one that was not protected and was therefore an easier target for STS entities to try to convince us that we needed slavery, war, and control. Thus, Timeline B was created as an alternative timeline that was closely guarded (quarantined) so that we could exercise our more natural gravitation towards being one with the Creator, thereby accelerating the rate at which we were becoming harvestable.

(01-05-2009, 02:36 AM)DreamingPeace Wrote:

(01-04-2009, 11:27 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Well, from the transcripts, the natural Timeline A is the one that was not protected and was therefore an easier target for STS entities to try to convince us that we needed slavery, war, and control. Thus, Timeline B was created as an alternative timeline that was closely guarded (quarantined) so that we could exercise our more natural gravitation towards being one with the Creator, thereby accelerating the rate at which we were becoming harvestable.

Hmmm....yes, you are correct...I remember that Timeline B is quarantined.

But, I am still confused...

"There are entities from fifth density on the service-to-self path that are attempting a coup, shall we say, of this train of humankind running along this parallel time track. They would like it not to rejoin the main track."

If Timeline A was vulnerable to more STS influence, then why would they want to keep us on Timeline B?

Or maybe they know that Timeline A is no longer going to be susceptible, as the transition is complete...and Timeline B would take us off-course from the shift altogether...something like that?

(01-05-2009, 01:59 PM)Chela Wrote: I am really thankful for the assistance the Guardians can provide us. But it really confuses the issue for me of Free Will and the Freedom to grow & develop on one's own timetable rather than another's.

If we are Infinite Beings of an Infinite Multiverse/Infinite Intelligence/GOD, then why the rush to reach a certain destination? Should not our timetable for growth & development also be infinite? I mean, Time is Endless...

After reading the Ra books, I understand Life and Living to be a process toward spiritual progress and development. Why so much pressure for Humans to reach 4D, now (aside from it being the time of Harvest and the end of a cycle for graduation)? Surely, those that are ready for 4D will graduate and those who are not will continue their existence on 3D. Afterall, it's all a process by which the One Infinite Creator is able to know Itself through the experiences of its Creation: it's original Desire and reason we are Alive & Sentient...

Quote:Carla Rueckert, A Time of Awakening Conference - Mackinac Island, Michigan August 11, 2007

When the guardians of our planet beheld the situation we were in, where there was so much chaos and confusion, they realized that there needed to be a stopping of the influences that were affecting us. So they created what they call a “time lateral”, as if the process of space/time was running along a track and they decided that it would be better if they quarantined this particular population for this 75,000-year cycle. So ever since we hit third density, we’ve been shuttled over to a parallel track. We’re on a time lateral.

Quote:Ra Book I, Session 9

Questioner: The guardians were obviously acting within an understanding of the Law of One in doing this. Can you explain the application of the Law of One in this process?

Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One was named by these guardians as the bringing of the wisdom of the guardians in contact with the entities from the Red Planet, thus melding the social memory complex of the guardian race and the Red Planet race. It, however, took an increasing amount of distortion into the application of the Law of One from the viewpoint of other guardians and it is from this beginning action that the quarantine of this planet was instituted, for it was felt that the free will of those of the Red Planet had been abridged.

Quote:Q'uo Special Meditation April 14, 2007

At the end of the second minor cycle of harvest in third density upon planet Earth, the Council of Saturn became concerned that the solar system as a whole had been able to bring to a normal graduation only one of the planets in this particular solar system that you call the Sun. It decided that it would be helpful to create a time lateral and to place the planet under strict quarantine. It was further decided that all of those entities whose third densities had been interrupted be brought to Earth to join Earth’s cycle leading to harvest.

(01-15-2009, 01:25 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: I've found numerous such conflicts in reading the Q'uo sessions related to the Time Lateral. Still, I believe that there is a baby in the bathwater. My interpretation is that the time lateral is equivalent to the quarantine discussed by Ra, or more accurately, it is the imlementation thereof. Given this interpretation, there was no human existence on the non-time lateraled Earth. So we needn't worry about somehow meeting up with other 3D being that evolved there.

Just my 2 cents,

3D Sunset

(07-08-2009, 06:08 AM)xlsander Wrote: just read it - it is so unbelievably beautiful to feel the resonance wihtin the self reading this - it helps to let go of fears - it puts the obama effect into a different light - that the results are not the important issue but the inspiration he provides with his speeches for people's potential change to awareness of being pro something rather than contra something.

(02-07-2009, 09:27 PM)Thorne Wrote: Are there any other references to "designer diseases" anywhere?

(07-09-2009, 08:26 PM)Sirius Wrote: Hopefully winter will kill it.

(07-16-2009, 06:39 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: Let's keep this thread on-topic, please! :-) We were discussing the time lateral??

(01-15-2009, 01:25 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: This has been a point of study, confusion and perplexion (new word?) for me for some time. My overall reaction is to view the Time Lateral as a somewhat etherial concept within L&L Research. Let me give some references:

Quote:Carla Rueckert, A Time of Awakening Conference - Mackinac Island, Michigan August 11, 2007

When the guardians of our planet beheld the situation we were in, where there was so much chaos and confusion, they realized that there needed to be a stopping of the influences that were affecting us. So they created what they call a “time lateral”, as if the process of space/time was running along a track and they decided that it would be better if they quarantined this particular population for this 75,000-year cycle. So ever since we hit third density, we’ve been shuttled over to a parallel track. We’re on a time lateral.

This indicates that all of 3D planet Earth was done on the Time Lateral. Which is consistent with the idea that the time lateral is simply how the quarantine referred to by Ra was implemented.

Quote:Ra Book I, Session 9

Questioner: The guardians were obviously acting within an understanding of the Law of One in doing this. Can you explain the application of the Law of One in this process?

Ra: I am Ra. The Law of One was named by these guardians as the bringing of the wisdom of the guardians in contact with the entities from the Red Planet, thus melding the social memory complex of the guardian race and the Red Planet race. It, however, took an increasing amount of distortion into the application of the Law of One from the viewpoint of other guardians and it is from this beginning action that the quarantine of this planet was instituted, for it was felt that the free will of those of the Red Planet had been abridged.

Elsewhere,however, Q'uo indicates that the Time Lateral was established at the end of the Second Minor cycle as an experiment to increase the final minor cycle's Harvest.

Quote:Q'uo Special Meditation April 14, 2007

At the end of the second minor cycle of harvest in third density upon planet Earth, the Council of Saturn became concerned that the solar system as a whole had been able to bring to a normal graduation only one of the planets in this particular solar system that you call the Sun. It decided that it would be helpful to create a time lateral and to place the planet under strict quarantine. It was further decided that all of those entities whose third densities had been interrupted be brought to Earth to join Earth’s cycle leading to harvest.

I've found numerous such conflicts in reading the Q'uo sessions related to the Time Lateral. Still, I believe that there is a baby in the bathwater. My interpretation is that the time lateral is equivalent to the quarantine discussed by Ra, or more accurately, it is the imlementation thereof. Given this interpretation, there was no human existence on the non-time lateraled Earth. So we needn't worry about somehow meeting up with other 3D being that evolved there.

Just my 2 cents,

3D Sunset

(07-12-2010, 05:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I too wonder how Time Lateral and the Quarantine are working, as we do hear about ET contact, and there are obviously Crop Circles being formed. If we are still on time lateral, it doesn't appear to be a full ET quarantine.

Quote:Questioner: Do any of them come here at this time in spacecraft? In the past, say, thirty years?
Ra: I am Ra. We must state that this information is unimportant. If you will understand this, we feel that the information may be acceptably offered. The Law of One is what we are here to express. However, we will speak upon this subject.

Each planetary entity which wishes to appear within your third dimension of space/time distortion requests permission to break quarantine, as you may call it, and appear to your peoples. The reason and purpose for this appearance is understood and either accepted or rejected. There have been as many as fifteen of the Confederation entities in your skies at any one time. The others are available to you through thought.

At present there are seven which are operating with craft in your density. Their purposes are very simple: to allow those entities of your planet to become aware of infinity which is often best expressed to the uninformed as the mysterious or unknown.

Quote:Questioner: Is there any effort on the part of the Confederation to stop the Orion chariots from arriving here?
Ra: I am Ra. Every effort is made to quarantine this planet. However, the network of guardians, much like any other pattern of patrols on whatever level, does not hinder each and every entity from penetrating quarantine, for if request is made in light/love, the Law of One will be met with acquiescence. If the request is not made, due to the slipping through the net, then there is penetration of this net.

Quote:Questioner: What would happen to the entity if he did this? What would happen to his chariot?
Ra: I am Ra. The Creator is one being. The vibratory level of those able to breach the quarantine boundaries is such that upon seeing the love/light net it is impossible to break this Law. Therefore, nothing happens. No attempt is made. There is no confrontation. The only beings who are able to penetrate the quarantine are those who discover windows or distortions in the space/time continua surrounding your planet’s energy fields. Through these windows they come. These windows are rare and unpredictable.

(07-12-2010, 08:13 PM)unity100 Wrote: What is needed is, uncalled and non permitted visitors/effects being quarantined, prevented, even if they passed through the net through an opening. they should either pass with permission, or not pass at all. if they do pass, they should be removed before being able to do anything.

(07-12-2010, 09:04 PM)unity100 Wrote: If there are going to be holes that allow unexpected windows and let in influxes that can do huge impact to entire world, 2-3 billion entities, regardless of they want it or not, for thousands of years, then a quarantine is not needed at all.

last time a window has occurred, a single orion ship came in, seeded the middle east with negative philosophies and thought patterns, and 2 to 3 billion people are still suffering the effects of those today, despite there wasnt actually any negative entity doing a calling. the orion group contacted the positive entities, they werent even able to find any negative entity. the damage of that 'window of opportunity' has been very significant in the end.