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Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - Shin'Ar - 12-08-2012
In the movie, 'The Matrix', Neo awakens in his little tub of electrolytes, and looks around to see the true world through physical eyes for the first time.
The Movie suggests that what we assume reality is based more on brain function than on actual physical interaction. and that when brain function is superseded we can finally get past the brain's interpretations and see the real world through our own eyes.
Partly true, and ingeniously depicted.
But, that which we see through the real eye is ALSO nothing more than further brain function and interpretation process.
So how do we discern which is hard drive programming and which is optional shareware interaction?
When a human looks at an object in front of them, they do not really actually see the actual object. What they 'see' is an interpretation in their brain which had interpreted the light refraction bouncing off of that object and being gathered by your optical senses.
One is not looking at the object itself, but at the light which reflects off of it.
Without the brain's ability to translate, and the actual optical organs involved in the process, and the necessary light refraction, one would be blind to that object.
However there are other ways to discern the object's status as a real aspect of one's environment.
Smell and sound. Even taste, if you dare.
Lol, made me think of the ole Cheech and Chong skit. only the old timers here will know what I mean.
Point being made;
How do we really know what is real and what is process? Or are both one and the same?
remember, that what has just been pointed out for discussion here works both ways.
You are also an 'object' for discernment by those observing and attempting to interact with you.
In reality, everything that is going on around us is a matter of constant dynamic process.
Returning to the matrix genius, in the final episode when Neo is free from the restraints of his optic organs, how is he perceiving the world?
Light and vibrations!
This is all that there is. Light and vibrations.
Regardless of whether we are looking from the experience of the program, or the physical senses, reality remains the constant.
With the eyes of subjection removed, and the eyes of objectivity freed from the programming control, suddenly the true aspect of creation becomes 'crystal' clear.
There is no Neo, and no 'mother bug'. All is One; not one 'identity', but rather one ongoing process of vibrating light waves.
But because of the state of being which most of us have adopted as reality, we all too often say,
'I wish I had have taken the little blue pill.'
"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill- the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill- you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."- Morpheus
problem- 'red pill or blue, both are still vibrations to be discerned by consciousness limited and distracted by both physical and metaphysical processes.
ALL IS PROCESS.
Forget Neo. Forget Shin'Ar. Both are nothing more than processes of conscious discernment.
Whether we are sitting up and looking over the edge of our cradle of electrolyte, empowering the delusion, via our 'connection' as 'battery energy', OR ,
sitting behind the desk in the program and running from Agent Smith,
both states of being are still states of being; process of being. neither any more or less real than the other. Both nothing more than process of consciousness.
In the end, there can be only one.
ooops, that's another series.
so the question which perplexes us all, remains,
"How do we discern which is hard drive programming and which is optional shareware interaction?"
What is illusion and what is delusion?
I advise, according to my understanding, that instead of attempting to identify your true self using the very undependable tool of subjection of body organs and programming, that we strive to become the process rather than some identity. utilize the field of consciousness which you actually are and interact via the design and function of that greatly superior means of knowing they true self, and observing the true processes taking place all around you.
As this 'Process of Being' one can become far more a 'higher being' than any temporary, delusional identity can acquire for them.
RE: Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - Plenum - 12-08-2012
this is true; the brain creates its experience from outside data. Sometimes the external is not even needed. For eg, I had a unique dream in my life last week where the sense of smell was the overpowering impression. It smelt stronger and more real than almost anything my nose had smelt in this reality.
and so in life, we are all signals to each other. Once your words or your writings enter the sensory channels they are essentially copies of the original signal; that may be mis-read, mis-interpreted, transformed or mutated into something vastly different from their original source.
Quote:I advise, according to my understanding, that instead of attempting to identify your true self using the very undependable tool of subjection of body organs and programming, that we strive to become the process rather than some identity. utilize the field of consciousness which you actually are and interact via the design and function of that greatly superior means of knowing they true self, and observing the true processes taking place all around you.
identification, as commonly understood, (with physical or worldly attributes, ie I am a male, I am a postal worker, etc etc) is the cause of many blockages. The spirit is quite obviously none of those things, and so insisting that one's energy patterns take that form just hardens to self to opportunies for change.
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as a side note: facts are true and happened, and yet offer little light on the metaphysical
stories (so called fiction) never happened in this reality, yet can have much metaphysical power
RE: Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - Aureus - 12-08-2012
Greetings Shin'Ar
I'll just dump whatever I feel,
Keep tasting the different porriges until you find one with ideal temperature. Keep trying beds until it's neither too soft nor hard. When you see a flicker of light, you investigate and determine its source.
When the outside looks bleak, look inside and find all the colors of the world. Constant investigation, constant death and rebirth. One is always where one is supposed to be, and there's truly only one way home. Only when the lightsuit is again flawless, may 'we' dissolve again into unity, for then the perciever and the percieved is truly the same.
When you've given up covering your ears...You listen to the divine tone, and tune your instrument, little by little, to match what you hear.
Delusion is every iota of dissonance... When your song is indiscernible from the One song, you're home. Until then, discover every extreme, collect the pieces, solve every quantum puzzle. Play of words can only suggest, invite, ignite. The Choice, is yours.
What song you may ask?
You know it by heart.
RE: Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - Spaced - 12-08-2012
(12-08-2012, 01:32 PM)plenum Wrote: and so in life, we are all signals to each other. Once your words or your writings enter the sensory channels they are essentially copies of the original signal; that may be mis-read, mis-interpreted, transformed or mutated into something vastly different from their original source.
When people send out information and ideas into the world I see it acting as a wave, the further it gets from the original source the weaker and more distorted the signal gets. Everyone has their own amplifier to try to cut through the distortion (their minds/discernment), but the reconstituted idea rarely matches exactly with the original intent of the idea. Broken telephone effect.
(12-08-2012, 01:32 PM)plenum Wrote:Quote:I advise, according to my understanding, that instead of attempting to identify your true self using the very undependable tool of subjection of body organs and programming, that we strive to become the process rather than some identity. utilize the field of consciousness which you actually are and interact via the design and function of that greatly superior means of knowing they true self, and observing the true processes taking place all around you.
identification, as commonly understood, (with physical or worldly attributes, ie I am a male, I am a postal worker, etc etc) is the cause of many blockages. The spirit is quite obviously none of those things, and so insisting that one's energy patterns take that form just hardens to self to opportunies for change.
This makes me think of my fave Ra quote:
Quote:"This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love; can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: 'All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you."
I see the 'cards' mentioned in this metaphor as the various roles we play and masks we wear as part of regular 3rd Density interaction.
RE: Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - Karl - 12-08-2012
Good food for thought.
RE: Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - norral - 12-09-2012
shin'ar i always enjoy reading your posts. i dont necessarily have the attention span to follow everything completely but i get the gist of what u are saying. some of the stuff u have written has clarified a lot of stuff for me which i am very grateful for.
norral
RE: Deep Into the Rabbit Hole - Cyan - 12-09-2012
I have refrained from engaging in deep thought with you shin and (zen as well) due to knowing that if i dont take my answers with the clearest of thought and the most careful of itnentions, your logics will rip me to shreads.
and Since that is a waste of time, for me, i'm quite good at ripping myself to shreads as well. I'll only approach threads like these when I feel i can formulate a complex answer that contributes to the threads. So, just because i'm not writing long winded responses, does not mean i do not read and ponder what you have written
That and i'm having migraines right now (flu) and having a bit of trouble maintaining the neccesary chakras/densities/energies required to be at the level i would prefer to be when responding so it will take time. I am assuming my friend has migraines too considering he has not been able to answer online to confirm our left handed thread more than previously mentioned.