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The Shift/Harvest - 010894 - 10-22-2012
I may be echoing the voices of others, however, I have formulated my own view of how the harvest will occur after reading and all.
First off, it is sensible to say that 4D life ALREADY exists on this planet, just as 2D does but they are not yet aware of 3D consciousness. All the dimensional perspectives already exist on this planet. The awareness, however, is what lacks. So, therefore, for someone to say that 3D life will die off and this planet will no longer be able to sustain it makes a little less sense to me, since it already sustains every kind of dimensional life. By saying this, those of us who are aware of 4D perspective ALREADY live in 4D perspective however, not everyone is so we are the leaders in this view. By 4D perspective I mean, our thought processes are rapidly coming together, emotions are put specifically in the present, we can understand the thought processes of others, and we are somewhat telepathic and understanding. We are AWARE. However, we are outnumbered in this awareness so it may seem like it hasn't happened yet. As more people become aware though, everything 4D will get stronger!
What I can say is that yes, this shift is happening in humanity. It is evident in plenty of ways. But the concepts of the shift are treating humanity as if they are the only life on the planet, this is not the case. Humanity is clearly evolving. Take a look at the generations. I for one am not even 19 yet and the mainstream society of teenagers discuss intelligent thoughts (such as Law of One) and are telepathic beyond belief. However, many don't realize it! We are limited only by the older generations that preceded us. What I believe is that we are going through a gradual shift. It is our minds that are changing, not our planet. The generations are just getting more and more 4D-like and science (such as Quantum Physics and String Theories and Multi-Dimensional Life) is advancing more and more and coming closer to outdating religion. Many people do not realize the lives teenagers and children live now in days. They are far more different than anyone who is not apart of it can understand. The internet became our collective consciousness. We live in basically 2 worlds. The generations are getting rebellious and liberal beyond belief. We spend much time thinking alone on the computer, expanding our minds through the internet and finding out the answer to things in seconds that took older generations years! Many fail to see this.
I can't see this happening over night, regardless of how many people say that's how it will happen. I can see this taking it's time as the newer generations replace the older ones. Before we know it, we'll be in a completely new world! The social structures, belief systems, and ignorance built into society will begin to collapse. It will be a process though, nothing ever happens simply over night. It seems we are far, but we still got plenty of time to go. The way I see it is things don't just happen, the big picture occurs with the aid of little details. The most us of awareness of what is happening and of the universal knowledge such as Law of One, Astrology, and other metaphysical understandings can do is spread them and share this beautiful knowledge with others. This will help humanity change into what it is meant to be. Before we know it, we'll live in a 4D world of understanding! We are alive during an exciting time of great change that we all have a part in contributing to, this change is NOT out of our hands!
This is just my theory and conclusion, I'm curious to see what all you think of it so please, any replies are appreciated! Also if anything was unclear, please say so, and I will try and clarify.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Goldenratio - 10-23-2012
Im in my mid thirties, and we lived on the internet too, called it BBSes, Prodigy, AOL, CompuServe, etc. Instead of the little islands we had back then, its much more of a continent in comparison. Advances in science arent going to outdate religion, they are going to update it. Think less abrahamic faiths, more Taoism type stuff. Getting more liberal? IDK. Disaffected with a cumbersome and out of sync system, yeah. The changes havent just started, been going on for decades, picking up some steam.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - zenmaster - 10-23-2012
(10-22-2012, 06:10 PM)010894 Wrote: So, therefore, for someone to say that 3D life will die off and this planet will no longer be able to sustain it makes a little less sense to me,But it makes a lot of sense if you consider that the earth sustains our collective illusion.
(10-22-2012, 06:10 PM)010894 Wrote: since it already sustains every kind of dimensional life.But it doesn't. It functions as a sub-logos with the inhabitants.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - 010894 - 10-24-2012
(10-23-2012, 02:48 PM)Goldenratio Wrote: Im in my mid thirties, and we lived on the internet too, called it BBSes, Prodigy, AOL, CompuServe, etc. Instead of the little islands we had back then, its much more of a continent in comparison. Advances in science arent going to outdate religion, they are going to update it. Think less abrahamic faiths, more Taoism type stuff. Getting more liberal? IDK. Disaffected with a cumbersome and out of sync system, yeah. The changes havent just started, been going on for decades, picking up some steam.
I know what you mean, but by the internet I meant through social networking and things of that such. It's not necessarily explainable. I may be wrong it was just a thought I wanted to get down quick. My thoughts on this change every day. You're right on religion being updated by science, that's sort of what I meant just you stated it better. I would say more liberal without a doubt. Our forms of expression on networks such as tumblr, twitter, and all these things are so much more individualized and creative. We are exposed to much, much more at a younger age is basically what I meant. You'd have to take a good look at what kids younger now are like on social networks and how we interact with each other on a day to day basis to really understand what I meant by that.
(10-23-2012, 10:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(10-22-2012, 06:10 PM)010894 Wrote: So, therefore, for someone to say that 3D life will die off and this planet will no longer be able to sustain it makes a little less sense to me,But it makes a lot of sense if you consider that the earth sustains our collective illusion.
(10-22-2012, 06:10 PM)010894 Wrote: since it already sustains every kind of dimensional life.But it doesn't. It functions as a sub-logos with the inhabitants.
What I meant is every single thing is "living". As you progress the perspective on these "living" forms of existence you get a bigger picture including everything below. Similar to as you progress through the dimensions.
The plants and atoms and molecules and all that and such, are they considered lower dimensional perspectives?
I always thought of the plants and lower animal kingdom as 2D creatures only aware of feeling in the senses and material comforts. No real mental processes, thought is not yet an aware product of their being. An example would be plants and how they feel but do not think.
1D beings are pure action, it is the molecules and cells and minerals that make up everything else. They are simply just moving, not feeling, not thinking. 2D creatures consist of these with the addition of sense and material comforts. An example would be the molecules and cells that regenerate in our bodies and plants and anything else that exists.
We are 3D, mental processes is the main gain of 3D perspective and we have length, width, and depth. We still have material comforts and our molecules and cells are still moving us within our bodies. Examples would be humans and the upper animal kingdom that thinks.
The lower dimensional creatures are unaware of ours just as we are unaware of anything higher.
So basically what would be next would be 4D with duration or emotion based form. Everything below is still included however the lower aspects are unaware of the higher aspects. Basically this is what I mean by them all existing simultaneously together.
These 1D and 2D beings exist in "our" 3D world with us. They are unaware of us so who's to say we are not unaware of any dimensional perspectives above us? I'm not doubting our evolution at all, the shift is felt and is very much real in my eyes. I am questioning how it will happen however.
this is just how I see things, am i wrong?
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Meerie - 10-24-2012
Wow, the number guy, I am glad you joined us here!
Like a breath of fresh air you are.
Your theory makes a lot of sense to me. Yeah, exactly, since we live here with 1 and 2D, why shouldn't 4D be able to coexist as well?
I am finding more and more flaws in the LOO material as of late. Lots of things seem to be misleading. Well Ra themselves admitted to having failed in communication before...
I think the whole harvest thing is something happening on the inside. Hence the whole "going to another planet, being split into 4+ and 4-" makes little sense to me.
I think we are all still going to be here.
no need to write notes for loved ones
RE: The Shift/Harvest - drifting pages - 10-24-2012
I like your take on it, you probably arrived at it just living your life experiences etc... keep it up.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Gribbons - 10-24-2012
Dude man, you're blowing my mind! I'm Capricorn as well. I'm only 23 but just reading through you're 8 grand total posts on this board, I can already feel what it's going to be like to be surpassed by younger minds! It makes me feel good though, bro, to hear you say that we have no idea how many more "intelligent thoughts" you all are having, and being more understanding and telepathic, I believe it.
So what's your goal, dude? What do you want to do? I'm going telekinetic. What I learned from Chronicle is that you can use the same principle to fly. And being a part of the first wave, what better way to be badass and showcase the potential of the human body-integrated-soul to all those starry-eyes below. Flamethrowing from the hands may be a bit scary to start off with. Lol
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Patrick - 10-24-2012
(10-24-2012, 12:22 PM)Gribbons Wrote: ...What I learned from Chronicle is that you can use the same principle to fly. And being a part of the first wave, what better way to be badass and showcase the potential of the human body-integrated-soul to all those starry-eyes below...
That sounds like forming an Elite !
But yeah good movie.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Gribbons - 10-24-2012
Haha, that word has really come to mean those that control others. There's nothing domineering about empowering oneself.
Haha, I used to be afraid of that too. But if we knew the power of our thoughts and imagination uninhibited, we can be anything we want to be, do anything we want to do. Which is exactly what the "Elite" fear, and suppress by means of fear-based religion, fear-mongering mass media, and conditioning the human mind to carry out programs to keep them thinking it's absolutely necessary for survival to give their power to another.
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RE: The Shift/Harvest - reeay - 10-24-2012
Quote:Each generation out of relative obscurity must discover its mission, fulfill or betray it.(Frantz Fanon, Algerian writer and psychologist)
To look into generational issues, look at outer planets in the astrological chart. Each generation brings something special to the world.
Learning from elders is important too. They have experience and wisdom that we all could benefit from, although we may not agree :p
RE: The Shift/Harvest - 010894 - 10-24-2012
Wow, thank you all seriously! You guys are a breath of fresh air to me!
I do more thinking, less reading. I only read things to inspire my own thoughts but every answer is within us so I sort of just close my eyes and think after reading and answers just flow to me, or what I believe my answers are. And yes, since I was young i kind of looked at the world as a learning experience. My emotional nature looks for the philosophy or meaning of everything (Sagittarius Moon)
Yes, each generation brings something different and this is what I think the shift is. It seems that we are shifting to a new way of thinking. We are breaking free of old thoughts and limitations. I have a huge belief in astrology as I said before to me it is the energy of the universe. So if it is the energy of the universe the answers to the dimensions must also be in them
Aries (Cardinal Fire/Spirit/Movement) 1D pure action, molecules
Taurus (Fixed Earth/Substance/Form) 2D feeling, material comforts
Gemini (Mutable Air/Mental Processes/Thought) 3D thought
Basically though do you see that all these dimensions are smaller parts of a bigger whole? This could explain how we are all connected and contained in one being (possibly the 12th dimension) as they progress
See how I figure everything is connected?
(10-24-2012, 12:22 PM)Gribbons Wrote: Dude man, you're blowing my mind! I'm Capricorn as well. I'm only 23 but just reading through you're 8 grand total posts on this board, I can already feel what it's going to be like to be surpassed by younger minds! It makes me feel good though, bro, to hear you say that we have no idea how many more "intelligent thoughts" you all are having, and being more understanding and telepathic, I believe it.
So what's your goal, dude? What do you want to do? I'm going telekinetic. What I learned from Chronicle is that you can use the same principle to fly. And being a part of the first wave, what better way to be badass and showcase the potential of the human body-integrated-soul to all those starry-eyes below. Flamethrowing from the hands may be a bit scary to start off with. Lol
Thank you!! The Capricorns of our generation are in conjunct with the outer planets (Uranus, Neptune, and I believe Saturn too at a point although not for my chart) I haven't set a goal for my self spiritually per say. My goal I guess is to learn and spread knowledge. That's a really cool goal to set for yourself aha let me know how it goes.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - zenmaster - 10-24-2012
(10-24-2012, 12:07 AM)010894 Wrote:Pretty much. 3D will not find the energies amenable, and will die off. 5D and higher wouldn't be sustained in the lower vibration. So no, the earth does not sustain those. Also what you said in your follow up post was completely orthogonal to the point whether or not the planet can sustain 3D, 5D or 6D.(10-23-2012, 10:52 PM)zenmaster Wrote:this is just how I see things, am i wrong?(10-22-2012, 06:10 PM)010894 Wrote: So, therefore, for someone to say that 3D life will die off and this planet will no longer be able to sustain it makes a little less sense to me,But it makes a lot of sense if you consider that the earth sustains our collective illusion.
(10-22-2012, 06:10 PM)010894 Wrote: since it already sustains every kind of dimensional life.But it doesn't. It functions as a sub-logos with the inhabitants.
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Raz - 10-26-2012
I believe 3d acts like an egg shell. When the planet is mature enough, it will break through this shell and enter a new phase of life. A chick dose not stick to what has contained it during its growth process after it has served it´s purpose.
We will see, until then, I´m planing to stay in cuddly snuggly mode
RE: The Shift/Harvest - Meerie - 10-26-2012
(10-26-2012, 10:57 AM)Raz Wrote: I believe 3d acts like an egg shell. When the planet is mature enough, it will break through this shell and enter a new phase of life. A chick dose not stick to what has contained it during its growth process after it has served it´s purpose.
We will see, until then, I´m planing to stay in cuddly snuggly mode
that's really cute.