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THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - godwide_void - 09-08-2012 Hold silence and maintain reverence! Comprehend: This is Who you truly are. This is Where you really are. This is Why you actually are. This is How you have come to be. Know this to be your original form, your true form, your ultimate form. It is what observes and experiences through each and every one of you. It is what you all seek, what you all serve, what you all speculate upon. It is what generates your awareness and manifests all manifestations. This is the 8th density. This is the One Infinite Creator. Or at the very least, this is a digital portrait I created which attempts to reconstruct from memory the peak of my personal beatific vision experience which was preceded by the telepathic transmission "By living your life humbly, We shall show you the 8th density". I would say the graphic representation I've provided here does not truly do the experience or the visage of the Creator justice, but it is, to the best of my abilities as accurate as I could recapture it, and I would hope it gives all seekers a much greater insight into the core of the "All is One" philosophy, how we are all the Creator, how It is everything. What is lost in this image is the perception of the experience and the actual processes which took place in my observation, but which may nevertheless be easily visualized as you observe the above image. Try to imagine that the edges of this picture do not end, and rather constantly expand outwards into "empty" space (which I perceived as... complete and utter nothingness, it was not blackness, but rather it was almost grey, static emptiness), and as this void expands more galaxies manifest to fill up the empty space but paradoxically, the void remains unmoved. Also attempt to envision infinite unified awareness as you stare at this picture of the infinite and unified being. Doesn't applying "One Infinite Creator" to this supreme abyss, which contains within Itself all potential, all possibility, and is the simultaneously Creation, make perfect sense? The very experience of observing Its image transcended all linguistic knowledge and speculations for me, cementing and molding the understanding I possess, and I hope this presentation similarly opens and clarifies the horizon for all of you. And as I cannot directly transmit this experience to each and every single one of you, as much as I would love to, sharing this image is the best I could do in the hopes of contributing positively to the path of every seeker here, by spreading the Law of One through a different route. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Shin'Ar - 09-09-2012 I would like to address this in more detail later, but right now I am trying to go through Azrael's post ion another thread. It is too bad that your artistic talent is not as great as your musical talent. What a sight we could behold if that were so. the great painters of history have managed to produce some astounding works of inspiration. Could you imagine what DaVinci might have been able to reveal to us if he had your experience and could put it to canvas? I do like this though GWV. If you place your self there and consider the possibilities, it does make you feel a sense of being more than we think we are. I would like to add a couple of thoughts here for others to consider as well. Let us think about sight for a minute. Humans have eyes to see that are controlled by their brain. This is a physical requirement based upon our physical design, and it seems to be a constant throughout most 2d and 3d animal life forms. Even those which use sensory perception that do not even really use their eyes still have them. Now, shall we suppose that the Source would have the need for physical eyes? I am not saying it is impossible, I am just applying consideration here. If it does have eyeballs, does it also have a brain which controls the sight process? That aside let's consider how it is natural for the human to attempt to relate to God as human-like, and how often that tendency seeps into our efforts to comprehend it. This tendency creates a great problem in that it causes us to place great emphasis on human form, whereby we identify with it in ways that may keep us from wanting to let go, or that cause us to want to continue to identify our self with human form. As is depicted here. GWV, in your experience, can you elaborate on the actual ability to see in that state of being. Obviously, as aware being, one would see its environment. But is that type of sight actually similar to seeing through human eyes, or could it be more of a extrasensory perception? Secondly, I would like to have us consider what you mean by simultaneity because there are many discussions about this which are in debate. Siren and Azreal would have us think that all of creation is finished, and that beginning and end and every point in between are a simultaneous event occurring in this very second, ooops in that last second, wait now,,,,well you get my drift. I, on the other hand, understand that creation is a continuing event in which future has not yet taken place. In my speculation infinity has no beginning and no end. In their speculation infinity is finished right now, I mean, right now, no wait,,,,right now, damn missed it again. Can you attempt to address your meaning when you speak to this simultaneity? I understand the concept that in some point of existence, all that exists is being realized by One Consciousness. And that all that exists is The One Consciousness experiencing in present time. That could be described as a simultaneity. All is experienced now by The One. BUT, when you take that the step further to suggest that all that can possibly be, has already been experienced, in order to lend credence to higher being having some relation to our future, than that is a very different consideration altogether. Finally just a quick note about what may be in the pic. Is that flame at the top and a pentagram at the bottom, and if you did deliberate to do that what is your intention there for those? RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Siren - 09-09-2012 Quote:I understand the concept that in some point of existence, all that exists is being realized by One Consciousness. And that all that exists is The One Consciousness experiencing in present time. That could be described as a simultaneity. All is experienced now by The One. And that, my friend, is precisely what we mean. I do not wish to derail this thread. However, I feel compelled to address this as concisely as I possible may. Consider Intelligent Infinity: boundless, limitless, formless, absolute and perfect in Its indivisible oneness ad infinite potential—unborn and undying—; all Thoughts and creative manifestations arising from and returning to this One Source. The Creator does not properly create as much as It experiences Itself; and yet, from the vantage point of Intelligent Infinity all is being observed, created and experienced omni-directionally—from all angles, dimensions and points of time and space: all things are thus occurring simultaneously. Entities evolving (at varying stages of development) through the vibratory spectra within the Creation are gradually realizing this—this oneness, perfection, totality and simultaneity with the One Infinite Creator, or Intelligent Infinity. Thus you see, the Source is always the origination/termination point of every journey and all experience. From this vantage point, all is simultaneously occurring (but occurring nonetheless—and I point out to the sense of unending continuity in this). Thus you see, this Creation, alongside an infinite number of other Creations, are all simultaneously emerging and coalescing, and in that sense, have already begun/finished as we speak, again, and again, and again and again—ad infinitum. This is hard to contemplate, process and assimilate (especially for a 3rd density entity), because in truth, there is no time. Strictly from a 3rd density point of perspective, however, I will concede to you Shin'Ar, that the Creation is certainly not finished and is yet ongoing. Other than that, I am glad you brought this up, because you just spoke my thoughts: Quote:That aside let's consider how it is natural for the human to attempt to relate to God as human-like, and how often that tendency seeps into our efforts to comprehend it. This tendency creates a great problem in that it causes us to place great emphasis on human form, whereby we identify with it in ways that may keep us from wanting to let go, or that cause us to want to continue to identify our self with human form. As is depicted here. I wouldn't be able to judge nor truly relate to GWV's vision at this present time (incarnated as a 3rd density entity), for I have also had the most magnificent, amazing and transcendental experiences that defy any human, linguistic description, and there are no proper means to truly express them (verbally) without, as I always say, "diluting gold into copper," which makes me feel utterly impotent at my sheer inability (and futility) to express something that is, in essence, truly indescribable. However, I will offer my humble opinion, if I may. It is my impression that the "eyes" in GWV's visions were a symbolical means to say: "I AM THE ONE OBSERVING ALL THERE IS, WAS AND EVER WILL BE—I AM YOU, OBSERVING YOUR-SELF—THIS IS MY INFINITY, FOREVER AND EVER WITHOUT ENDING NOR BEGINNING." RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - abstrktion - 09-09-2012 My humble opinion: All Time and Space is here and now--on a different channel . Murry Hope (Lion People) and Jane Roberts (Oversoul Seven) kind of give an impression of this in their books. I admire GV's attempt to do a visual! I "feel" IT as vibration, not vision. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Shin'Ar - 09-09-2012 (09-09-2012, 01:59 PM)Siren Wrote: I wouldn't be able to judge nor truly relate to GWV's vision at this present time (incarnated as a 3rd density entity), for I have also had the most magnificent, amazing and transcendental experiences that defy any human, linguistic description, and there are no proper means to truly express them (verbally) without, as I always say, "diluting gold into copper," which makes me feel utterly impotent at my sheer inability (and futility) to express something that is, in essence, truly indescribable. Good to hear from you again Siren, my dear. I want to take this opportunity to point out that I do not judge anyone's experience in such a way that i doubt the veracity of it. especially in the case of GWV. I realize that verbally expressing such experiences are near impossible. I also realize that it is possible for us to experience aspects of our field of consciousness that can reveal to us memories and past experiences which we would find difficult to fathom ourselves let alone relay to others. When I question those experiences, it is never in criticism or disbelief. It is always in discernment for the sake of understanding, and comparing to whatever information I may already have to assist me in understanding that which is being relayed. And it is also in the effort to also assist the person sharing the information so that they might also be able to further relay and understand that which they are having difficulty explaining. In GWV's experience with the void, he saw an eye looking back at him which was his own. He had the sense that he was observing himself, observing himself as he overlooked the beginnings of creation. And no, that was not a double type. This gives the sense of the mirror affect of what I would call the Flower of Amenti, or what some here acknowledge as the hologram or Flower of Life. It is extremely compelling to say the least and contains much that is incomprehensible to us, or me at least, in this state of being. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - godwide_void - 09-11-2012 (09-09-2012, 06:55 AM)ShinAr Wrote: Humans have eyes to see that are controlled by their brain. This is a physical requirement based upon our physical design, and it seems to be a constant throughout most 2d and 3d animal life forms. Even those which use sensory perception that do not even really use their eyes still have them. It is not a far-fetched notion to consider that the supreme being which designed us would not incorporate elements in our appearance which would resemble it. Consider the separate components of the physical human head and the metaphysical human mind. The similarity we share with the Creator, the manner in which one may consider the human being as having been forged in Its image is dependent upon the synthesis of the two aforementioned components into a single unit; that is, while we perceive the mind as separate from the physical head, the Creator is as a vast monolithic mind which functions as Its head as well as body, as a formless abyss. The addition made to the vehicle of the human being which distinguishes it in form from the Creator is the rest of the body below the head, a necessary appendix which allows for our functional navigation and interaction with the environment the human is manifest in. The Creator is Its own brain and its process of true "sight" manifests as omni-awareness of every one of Its generated beings. The eyes which I observed that it possesses serves the function of sight upon the highest dimensional plane of existence. Just as I observed It, It gazed right back at whatever form I was thus manifested in, although my certainty lies in that I existed as disembodied awareness. One of the primary functions of Its eyes is to optically observe through the nodes of visual awareness and perception manifest in every being it creates with functioning vision. The function of sight is utilized alongside Its ability to maintain awareness through each lower field and manifest all environments, and as It paradoxically dwells within all beings as all of existence dwells within It, the eyes It possesses allows for such an optical interfacing. Quote:GWV, in your experience, can you elaborate on the actual ability to see in that state of being. Obviously, as aware being, one would see its environment. But is that type of sight actually similar to seeing through human eyes, or could it be more of a extrasensory perception? I did not utilize my physical senses in the perception of this experience as this experience took place with eyes entirely shut, thus it was in actuality the pure awareness of my consciousness which, traversing through the pineal tunnel leading into the deepest chamber of being, arrived within Its presence and proceeded to observe the observer. I would not call it simply extrasensory perception inasmuch as it was simultaneously intrasensory perception as this experience gave rise to the understanding that the furthest zone beyond is exactly the same as the deepest region within. Quote:Secondly, I would like to have us consider what you mean by simultaneity because there are many discussions about this which are in debate. Simultaneity in the context I used it was referring to the interchangeability of the One Infinite Creator and Its Creation and was not referring to simultaneity in regards to the continuum and experience of events as perceived via a lens of a linearity-dominated paradigm, although I may offer my thoughts upon this to attempt to clarify things for you. I reside in wholehearted agreement with you that the Creation is a continuing manifestation, and as Siren specifically termed it as having "unending continuity". The perception of the sublime blending of what is constituted as the past, present and future can be broken down as such: when an individual uses these terms, generally what is implied by past or future is a significant chunk of time which is intended to embody a certain period of time or a collection of events compressed into a set which becomes embedded in the mind of the perceiver as "the past" or "the future", for instance some consider "the past" to only exist only after a significant period of "time" has passed or been experienced, and would be in reference to say, the past week or past month. In actuality, the past, present and future occur simultaneously. Consider that if you maintain mindfulness and remain in control of the current moment you are existing, you are in complete control of what will manifest as your past. Similarly, through the present devising of the moments which will become categorized as "the past", you are becoming in direct control of "the future" by orchestrating it with each moment, and what one would consider "the future" merely references to subsequent moments in the continuum of linear awareness which the perceiver has yet to experience. To observe the sheer illusory aspect of time, consider that at the beginning of this particular paragraph, in the "past", my writing of the word "To" was the present, and the "future" is unfolding with each word I am typing. However, just as the "future" is unfolding, I am cycling through many currently unfolding "present" moments which immediately become the "past" as soon as the "present" unfolds and I cease experiencing the instantaneous moment which I am both initiating action and/or simply being, and what is considered the "future" are merely the moments immediately after the "present" moment which I have yet to experience but am still constantly manifesting myself or some extension of myself into existence. In the formation of this paragraph, I experienced the past, the present, and the future all at once, with my yet to experience subsequent moments that will eventually become classified as past, present, and future overlapping as they occur, unfold, and pass with the criteria that I am not dividing these three time frames into significant illusory chunks of collected moments, but am applying their designation on a momentary basis. Even in the brief pauses I take to shift my finger to hit another key on my keyboard, a present occurred, a present ended and became past, and with the cessation of this present and its transformation into a "past", the future opens up to me, only to immediately become classified as a "present" moment, and then after the "present" moment has passed it will become the "past". As we spatially traverse we apply the concept of time to allow some means of making note of one's progress in transforming beingness. However, just as I have shown to you above the cyclical simultaneous looping nature of linear time, so too is cyclical time linear in its nature via constant action and reaction. With the above insights presented, we may now tackle the concept of time in relation to the One Infinite Creator's perception of it. We are pixels which experience the finest micro-granules of many unending moments which do not cease in their stacking upon one another. All motion and navigation through the ocean of experience is in relation to the awareness of singular eternity analogous to the consideration of the numerous musical sequencing of melodies and harmony and notes as one single symphony. What the One Infinite Creator experiences that is exclusive to Its awareness is constant manifestation of Its awareness into fragmented existences. If infinity was experiencing its end right now, then new lives would not be born and new experiences would not be occurring. As I displayed in the example above using my paragraph as a means to pinpoint that with each inputted letter, the past, present and future overlap and occur simultaneously, this can be applied to the consideration of eternity, in that each moment which passes in eternity is a new generation of a novelty aspect of infinite possibility, and as this infinite possibility becomes generated there is a moment when it simply "is", and this new facet quickly alters its existence by engaging in a new means of experiencing, thus ending the generation of this fresh manifestation, and each moment which follows results in the creation, sustaining and destruction of some facet of the manifestation's existence. Infinity is always ending, but it is always beginning anew, and each moment which it evolves further, it is leaving behind some aspect of itself behind to pave the way for future opportunities to manifest itself anew, and as it manifests itself anew it thus continues to move away from what it once was. This is thus how one may begin to breach the deeper consideration of the simultaneity of time as cyclical and linear, as momentarily evolving but eternally unwavering. Remember also that our perception of time pales in comparison to that of a higher dimensional beings, especially the quintessential being. In my experience of the Creator I observed the rapid manifestation and progression of each galaxy within It. Certainly, improvising every single ordered circumstance in the extremely random, chaotically unpredictable life experiences of trillions upon trillions of Its manifestations, all with their own sense of free will to perform infinite variations of choices and actions is absolutely no difficult task for It. Quote:Finally just a quick note about what may be in the pic. Is that flame at the top and a pentagram at the bottom, and if you did deliberate to do that what is your intention there for those? The "flame" and the "pentagram" were two details which were left behind in my modification of the base picture I used for the purpose of that picture's eyes being the most resonant and similar to my vision. I deliberately left the "flame" because, while not necessarily a component of the original 'vision' of mine, it appeared to me to be a gargantuan pineal gland and its inclusion would denote a symbol of the omnipotence of the Creator's might. What you consider a "pentagram" was also deliberately left behind, both for aesthetic appeal and that it provided a type of focus for the image, as well as the fact that it appears to be a new galaxy which is beginning to enter into manifestation from the central point of the Creator, which is where I observed new galaxies "flowing out" from in my experience. As such, it manages to at least somewhat retain and convey a significant representation of an important process in action which defines its beingness. I certainly do lament that I do not possess the sufficient artistic skill of when I initially considered tackling this visual project, as the proper image is deeply seared into my mind and I can envision it perfectly from memory sans the greater higher dimensional perception, but I fall short when attempting to translate it into a drawing or digital representation, and there are certainly plenty of details to be added (such as the arrangement of galaxies to form a distinctly featured "face"). DaVinci would've most definitely been a better candidate to put this experience to painting, and would've far surpassed what Photoshop could do! RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - AnthroHeart - 09-11-2012 I thought the galaxies were very well done. Did you use images of galaxies? RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Shin'Ar - 09-11-2012 I still have much reading to do here, but this thought comes to mind as I try to understand what is being said. Is it possible that what you are calling future, is actually the continuing,ongoing present? It seems that you have suggested that IF we are in control of each present moment, than we are also in control of our future. but what IF we are NOt in control, for instance an even happens over which we are helpless ot control the outcome. Does that mean that, by your definition there cannot be a future in such an event? If I apply my thought to your explanations, it seems to make more sense to me and I can more readily understand. Each present moment is as you said, an ongoing process between what will be and what has come to pass, and results in what becomes the future, but in that very event of becoming, it is no longer future, but past. The instant that an event occurs, it is no longer present or a possible future, it is past memory of what was present. In the present time that it was taking place, the only simultaneity of tense is that while it is taking place, any number of other events are also occurring. Can you, from this point, relay to me how the future event which has not yet occurred, which will be the result of this present movement, is somehow part of the simultaneous process, when it has not yet occurred? As events continue to occur, their future is not definite, based in the present moment. the possibilities of what might result are endless. And each possibility resides unmanifested until it becomes the next present, and then the past. Is my confusion in that what you are calling the future is not the same as what I acknowledge as future? I see that you are also addressing this in the other thread as well so I am going to try to bring the two together and see what I can extrapolate from the Word processor. I also want to point out that there is much more to discuss here than just the matter of simultaneity. Hopefully we will be able to get it all in with time. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - godwide_void - 09-12-2012 (09-11-2012, 07:37 PM)ShinAr Wrote: I still have much reading to do here, but this thought comes to mind as I try to understand what is being said. I have answered many points which would clarify things for you in my response in your Fields of Consciousness thread, but I will address briefly two statements of yours for further supplemental elaboration: Quote:Is it possible that what you are calling future, is actually the continuing,ongoing present? It appears you are categorizing a chunk of moments into a "continuing, ongoing present". I choose to perceive that the ongoing continuum of momentary awareness of a time duration of say, 5 minutes, is comprised of many present moments, which at the beginning of the 5 minutes consisted of many unmanifest future moments, and as you progressed through each moment and experienced them, they instantly became a past moment. Immediately beyond your present moment, second by second, is a future moment which is yet to manifest. Also, when I stated that one who is in better control of their present will control their future, I meant to imply that when one better manages the actions they perform in any present moment, they will have a better grasp at directing the manifestation of each subsequent moment to one's liking. However, even if one chooses to approach existence with a completely foolhardy and reckless disposition, and hold no control over the circumstances of their present moment or are simply wandering aimlessly, this does not mean that they will not experience a future, as this designation of time is impersonal and is universal in regards to beings which perceive a linear passage of events. Whether you have a better grasp of your present or not does not change the existence of unmanifest future probabilities. It is simply that, with the former circumstance of better managing one's present, those future probabilities will have a likelier chance of being to one's preference. Read my other post for the greater clarification on this matter. (09-11-2012, 10:52 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I thought the galaxies were very well done. Did you use images of galaxies? Thank you, and yep, I found a picture of a fitting spiral galaxy and chose to use this in abundance because from my recollection of this vision, every galaxy I saw embedded within the Creator were predominately spiral galaxies. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Confused - 09-15-2012 (09-08-2012, 11:11 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Dear godwide, I cannot thank you enough. Such a lovely, beautiful and glorious picture! Thanks, my dear friend. From the womb of the great Mother, the One Infinite Creator, comes all and your picture from your personal expression captures that sense of ultimate wonder very beautifully. It reminded me of the great Mother with her metaphorical lighted indigo in full action, i.e., weaving the eternal dance of existence in the ways that we do not yet comprehend. Beautiful, just beautiful RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Plenum - 05-03-2013 (09-08-2012, 11:11 PM)godwide_void Wrote: Comprehend: truly this is something astonishing to behold, even a glimpse, even for a moment. once you have seen this 'fullness', this 'awesomeness', this 'sheer envelopment', this 'completeness', life is no longer the same, cannot be. even a peek will cause you to reconsider all previously held beliefs and assumptions. experience trumps theory and cogitation every time. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Hototo - 05-03-2013 Still miss you GWV. Which is interesting since you're a persona representation of what I Experienced as I Too tripped in the void, seeing as how your description resonates with me as if it is me. Oh the irony. Anyway... Kumbaya Or some such. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - amun - 09-08-2014 From a third density prescriptive the present moment moves at the speed of light, therefore is imperceptible us in the third density. So as a fall back, the conscious awareness of the present(a conglomeration of present moments) is the representation in the mind/body/spirit complex. I came to this conclusion by visualizing the present moment as a lens. Any comments upon this are welcome. Adonai RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Unbound - 09-08-2014 Before your edit you cited the number 67,500, how did you get that number? RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - amun - 09-08-2014 (09-08-2014, 03:08 PM)Unbound Wrote: Before your edit you cited the number 67,500, how did you get that number? A number based on the amount of light that falls on one point in a second, I removed that figure after considering the actual speed of light and my lack of understating of the math involved. Despite my math skills, I still understand that a moment passes incomprehensibly fast RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Unbound - 09-09-2014 According to a friend I know the moment of perception for humans is something like 70 microseconds. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - Stranger - 09-09-2014 The Creator sees the world not through our eyes, but through our consciousness. Our consciousness is actually His consciousness. He perceives simultaneously through the perspectives of every form-possessing living being that has ever been or will be. Our perception is God's perception limited to a single point of view, unable to access all the others; we look at the world with God's eyes and God's consciousness, but because we are not aware of God's other points of view (i.e., all other beings) we call God's consciousness our own. We all share one mind. RE: THE ONE INFINITE CREATOR - AnthroHeart - 09-09-2014 (09-09-2014, 05:55 PM)Stranger Wrote: The Creator sees the world not through our eyes, but through our consciousness. Our consciousness is actually His consciousness. He perceives simultaneously through the perspectives of every form-possessing living being that has ever been or will be. Our perception is God's perception limited to a single point of view, unable to access all the others; we look at the world with God's eyes and God's consciousness, but because we are not aware of God's other points of view (i.e., all other beings) we call God's consciousness our own. When I get my pendulum I'm going to ask all sorts of questions like "are we really all one?" and such. Do we share one mind is a good question. |