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Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - caycegal - 08-14-2012
"The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately 31,000 years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately 15,000 of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative." (from 10-15)
My understanding of the above is that the Antlanteans learned how to create slaves. This would correspond with Edgar Cayce's story, in which the Antlantean slaves were called "things."
I am wondering how they used intelligent infinity by means of technological understanding. What does this mean? Examples of using intelligent infinity this way?
My understanding is that they created bodies by cloning or other means, and were able to infuse them with life using infinite energy from the pineal ray.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - anagogy - 08-14-2012
(08-14-2012, 12:33 PM)caycegal Wrote: "The Atlantean race was a very conglomerate social complex which began to form approximately 31,000 years in the past of your space/time continuum illusion. It was a slow growing and very agrarian society until approximately 15,000 of your years ago. It reached quickly a high technological understanding which caused it to be able to use intelligent infinity in a less informative manner. We may add that they used intelligent energy as well, manipulating greatly the natural influxes of the indigo or pineal ray from divine or infinite energy. Thus, they were able to create life forms. This they began to do instead of healing and perfecting their own mind/body/spirit complexes, turning their distortions towards what you may call the negative." (from 10-15)
My understanding of the above is that the Antlanteans learned how to create slaves. This would correspond with Edgar Cayce's story, in which the Antlantean slaves were called "things."
I am wondering how they used intelligent infinity by means of technological understanding. What does this mean? Examples of using intelligent infinity this way?
My understanding is that they created bodies by cloning or other means, and were able to infuse them with life using infinite energy from the pineal ray.
Essentially, it was crystal technology. They developed crystal technology which allowed them to tap into intelligent infinity. The had machines which would actually re-align their subtle bodies and energy centers in order to make contact with this pure psychic energy. This greatly enhanced all of their natural psychic abilities. From what I've "pseen" and gathered from other sources of channeling, they were so psychically aware that they were nearly a social memory complex in 3rd density. This gave them enormous mind over matter power.
They developed the ability to alter the genetic structure of beings with their mind power. Many of the creatures we associate with legend, such as centaurs, mermaids, satyrs, etc, were inspired from memories from Atlantis. They actually created those creatures, by altering the genetic structure of animals and blending it with human characteristics. I'm not saying they looked exactly like folklore. Like with a centaur, for example, there was no rule saying the human part came out where the head of the horse should be.
Many abominations were created. These creatures were often in pain, with their genetic structure being upset as it was. These creatures were not as intelligent as human beings. They were more intelligent than most animals however. Most of them were not capable of reproduction. They became a servant/slave class to the Atlanteans, who had a real sense of superiority over other life forms (even other native humans who weren't apart of their society -- sometimes they would even cannibalize the more tribal human beings that were incarnate upon the Earth at that time -- like a rare delicacy for them (yum, yum
)). Towards the end of their society, the Atlanteans were predominately negatively polarized. They were very engrossed in the "pleasures of the flesh". They didn't care about others, only the next "thrill". Of course, they weren't always that way.They would actually have arenas where they would battle these creatures against one another. They were just objects to them.
The Atlanteans also had crystal machines that had the capacity to rejuvenate them, and reverse aging, though these were largely reserved for the elite of their society.
They used crystal technology like we use electricity. Their whole culture revolved around it. It eventually lead to their destruction.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Daydreamin - 08-15-2012
anagogy......hit the nail on the head! I completely agree from everything I know.
And I believe that we are going to be using that crystal technology that we have hidden from ourselves in the next couple hundred years tops. From what I understand, we have hidden the true capability of crystals and what they can do and it's people like us that are here to spread the knowledge of crystals. Or at least I feel as if I am here to help make people aware of crystals.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Shin'Ar - 08-15-2012
What sort of technologies and practices the Atlanteans experieienced is all specuation but there is much written evidence that does poitn to the myths which anogogy relayed here. many ancient religons point to many of these myths.
But a far more important question thanh the credibliity of such myths, is this,
"If these were actual events, then what happened to the family tree?'
Atlantis was destroyed, but what happened to those who escaped? And are there descendants of those genetically manipulated humans survivi8ng today?
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Daydreamin - 08-15-2012
(08-15-2012, 10:08 AM)ShinAr Wrote: What sort of technologies and practices the Atlanteans experieienced is all specuation but there is much written evidence that does poitn to the myths which anogogy relayed here. many ancient religons point to many of these myths.
But a far more important question thanh the credibliity of such myths, is this,
"If these were actual events, then what happened to the family tree?'
Atlantis was destroyed, but what happened to those who escaped? And are there descendants of those genetically manipulated humans survivi8ng today?
Who knows but it is a possibility. And probably a good possibility.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Spaced - 08-15-2012
In a different thread ( http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1296 ) we discussed the possibility that dolphins were the product of Atlantean genetic engineering. There's a Qu'o quote mentioning how many Atlanteans, disillusioned with the state of affairs in Atlantis near the end, volunteered to have their consciousness transferred into dolphin bodies. Interesting stuff to think about!
Whether or not the genetic legacy of Atlantis lives on in humanity too, I'm sure that the dreams and souls of the Atlanteans are still with us.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - caycegal - 08-15-2012
Thank you. Anagogy! Great post. I have been studying the Cayce material for most of my life, and I have a feeling that you have correctly translated a lot of his complicated verbiage.
I still wonder though. From Cayce I have the impression that these "things" were gradually helped in Egypt (by the Priest Ra TA and his group) to acquire human-type bodies that would enable them to progress spiritually - possibly (now I'm drawing on the Law-Of-One material) from 2nd to 3rd density. I'm guessing the priest Ra TA was working in some way with the Ra group.
Therefore, those beings who were "things" are now integrated into the human race. Is this your understanding?
I feel that the Law-of-One material has appeared in my life just at the point when I needed/wanted a more detailed understanding of some of these subjects, which in the Cayce material can be very vaguely expressed.
Thanks to the others who posted here also. Much helpful information.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Plenum - 08-15-2012
yeah great post anagogy.
it's a fitting reminder that 3d isn't as limited as we think; and that when intelligent energy is tapped reliably and consistently, the so-called miracles and magical powers of stories become the everyday. Jesus is an example.
scarcity and limitation are not our birthright.
updated:
Quote:80.22 . We have discussed the possibilities of contact with intelligent energy, for this energy is the energy of the Logos, and thus it is the energy which heals, builds, removes, destroys, and transforms all other-selves as well as the self.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Patrick - 08-15-2012
(08-15-2012, 11:05 AM)plenum Wrote: ...
scarcity and limitation are not our birthright.
I wish people would realize this. But the great majority of the people around me are perfectly ok with the monetary system, including the concept of being able to have more than others. They want this possibility to exist.
So things are not going to change. We will be stuck with money for the entire length of this incarnation.
I'm actually trying to ground back into this reality and it's not easy. I even started programming a video game for Windows 8 and Windows RT since open source is not wanted on this planet.
I don't get it, but people actually want scarcity to be there.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - caycegal - 08-15-2012
Patrick, I have been thinking about how we seem to be sharing this planet. We are called on to be companions and co-creators with God (substitute your own word for "God.")
We seem to be sharing the planet/reality/plane with numerous individuals who seem to be clueless.
The Abraham material says - "just create your own reality by focusing on what you like and ignore that which feels negative to you."
I like that, yet still am wondering about how I'm going to get what I want (clean air, clean oceans, happy fish and birds, for example).
Best angle I've come up with is to go into an Alpha state and join in my mind with all the others who want the same things I do for the world.
Oh, and about money: I've realized that money is simply stored energy. If some people want to store up huge amounts of it, they have their own karma to contend with. I don't think their desire to be rich will prevent me from having plenty, as long as I'm not all tied up in resentments toward them.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - zenmaster - 08-15-2012
(08-15-2012, 11:29 AM)Patrick Wrote: I wish people would realize this. But the great majority of the people around me are perfectly ok with the monetary system, including the concept of being able to have more than others.
Other systems seem to require a level of awareness and evaluation skills that are not readily available at present.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Bring4th_Austin - 08-15-2012
(08-15-2012, 08:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-15-2012, 11:29 AM)Patrick Wrote: I wish people would realize this. But the great majority of the people around me are perfectly ok with the monetary system, including the concept of being able to have more than others.
Other systems seem to require a level of awareness and evaluation skills that are not readily available at present.
Do you think that Ra had the same limitation on awareness and evaluation that we do? They do say that they never developed systems of money and barter like we have.
The conundrum reminds me of this video:
(viewer discretion: language)
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - zenmaster - 08-15-2012
(08-15-2012, 09:31 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:I'd imagine they had the same potential limitations but were not challenged by them. I doubt they even knew of, considered, or explored alternative systems in their history. When there is lack of conflict in an area, there is no problem. The primary problem here, as I see it, is how to assign relative value to address our unique circumstances. If we can not improve our ability to assess relative worth (of what we have and what we desire), within the overall social context, then we can't have a better system.(08-15-2012, 08:37 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-15-2012, 11:29 AM)Patrick Wrote: I wish people would realize this. But the great majority of the people around me are perfectly ok with the monetary system, including the concept of being able to have more than others.
Other systems seem to require a level of awareness and evaluation skills that are not readily available at present.
Do you think that Ra had the same limitation on awareness and evaluation that we do? They do say that they never developed systems of money and barter like we have.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - anagogy - 08-17-2012
(08-15-2012, 10:51 AM)caycegal Wrote: Thank you. Anagogy! Great post. I have been studying the Cayce material for most of my life, and I have a feeling that you have correctly translated a lot of his complicated verbiage.
I still wonder though. From Cayce I have the impression that these "things" were gradually helped in Egypt (by the Priest Ra TA and his group) to acquire human-type bodies that would enable them to progress spiritually - possibly (now I'm drawing on the Law-Of-One material) from 2nd to 3rd density. I'm guessing the priest Ra TA was working in some way with the Ra group.
Therefore, those beings who were "things" are now integrated into the human race. Is this your understanding?
Let's just say I think it is a very good possibility that these beings that were....um....forcibly "evolved" were accelerated in their transition from 2nd density to 3rd density. When a soul is not a vibrational match for its body, there is sort of a push/pull dynamic that occurs with the two energies. It's like when a highly intelligent soul incarnates in a body with a shall we say "less than optimal" brain capacity, the IQ sort of ends up somewhere in the middle. Sort of like attaching a field plow to a race horse.
In the case of the were-creatures (as I affectionately refer to them as) they had second density consciousness in mutated 3rd density bodies (in most cases). So the push/pull between the energies, though not comfortable, did result in some rapid evolution as their consciousness was given access (against their will) to pathways it would not naturally be attracted to incarnating into. But then, some of these creatures were pets before the genetic experimentation, and as we know from the Ra material, 2nd density consciousness that is close to being 3rd density harvestable will often incarnate in bodies that will have close associations with 3rd density beings, as it helps to push them over the threshold into 3rd density consciousness. So, I imagine that, despite the negative manipulation of other entities with or without their consent, this was the case with many of these 2nd density beings.
So I would say, yes, in many cases these 2nd density beings were thrown into the lowest sub-octave of 3rd density consciousness, and as result, became part of the human soul group.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Shin'Ar - 08-17-2012
(08-17-2012, 01:14 AM)anagogy Wrote:(08-15-2012, 10:51 AM)caycegal Wrote: Thank you. Anagogy! Great post. I have been studying the Cayce material for most of my life, and I have a feeling that you have correctly translated a lot of his complicated verbiage.
I still wonder though. From Cayce I have the impression that these "things" were gradually helped in Egypt (by the Priest Ra TA and his group) to acquire human-type bodies that would enable them to progress spiritually - possibly (now I'm drawing on the Law-Of-One material) from 2nd to 3rd density. I'm guessing the priest Ra TA was working in some way with the Ra group.
Therefore, those beings who were "things" are now integrated into the human race. Is this your understanding?
Let's just say I think it is a very good possibility that these beings that were....um....forcibly "evolved" were accelerated in their transition from 2nd density to 3rd density. When a soul is not a vibrational match for its body, there is sort of a push/pull dynamic that occurs with the two energies. It's like when a highly intelligent soul incarnates in a body with a shall we say "less than optimal" brain capacity, the IQ sort of ends up somewhere in the middle. Sort of like attaching a field plow to a race horse.
In the case of the were-creatures (as I affectionately refer to them as) they had second density consciousness in mutated 3rd density bodies (in most cases). So the push/pull between the energies, though not comfortable, did result in some rapid evolution as their consciousness was given access (against their will) to pathways it would not naturally be attracted to incarnating into. But then, some of these creatures were pets before the genetic experimentation, and as we know from the Ra material, 2nd density consciousness that is close to being 3rd density harvestable will often incarnate in bodies that will have close associations with 3rd density beings, as it helps to push them over the threshold into 3rd density consciousness. So, I imagine that, despite the negative manipulation of other entities with or without their consent, this was the case with many of these 2nd density beings.
So I would say, yes, in many cases these 2nd density beings were thrown into the lowest sub-octave of 3rd density consciousness, and as result, became part of the human soul group.
Very astute Anagogy. And can you also comprehend that there have been many other symptoms/afflictions/abnormalities/traits which have been genetically transmitted?
Also this unnatural acceleration of instilling sudden vast amounts of information into fields of consciousness would not be without the consequences of the field having difficulty in interacting with that data.
Even in future vehicles/incarnations that field would suffer various problems in discerning and application of such data.
I would like to ask Cynegal why he refers to these hybrids as 'things'?
is it to simply make distinctions or do you consider these to be void of their humanity altogether because of the crossbreeding processes?
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - caycegal - 08-17-2012
(08-17-2012, 08:52 AM)ShinAr Wrote: I would like to ask Cynegal why he refers to these hybrids as 'things'?
I haven't been able to find an explanation by Cayce. I have the impression that it was the people of Atlantis who referred to them as "things."
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - Shin'Ar - 08-17-2012
(08-17-2012, 11:28 AM)caycegal Wrote:(08-17-2012, 08:52 AM)ShinAr Wrote: I would like to ask Cynegal why he refers to these hybrids as 'things'?
I haven't been able to find an explanation by Cayce. I have the impression that it was the people of Atlantis who referred to them as "things."
ah okay so you are just repeating what Cayce had said?
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - caycegal - 08-17-2012
Quote:ah okay so you are just repeating what Cayce had said?
I tried to indicate which part was Cayce and which part was my assumption. With Cayce (as with Ra) it's not always easy to understand with precision what was meant. However, the term "things" is strictly Cayce.
RE: Atlantis, slaves, intelligent infinity - AnthroHeart - 08-17-2012
A lot of the creatures that Atlanteans created were cared for deeply by them.