(12-25-2008, 08:02 PM)DreamingPeace Wrote: Greetings to everyone!

There seems to be a lot of (apparently) STS-oriented, sensationalistic stuff out there about 2012...

...Has anyone else observed this?

(12-25-2008, 09:49 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: To me, the news is nothing more than a huge catalystic engine that is constantly spewing out topics that weave into our reality. And it is up to us to look at these topics and recognize ourselves in them, or to reject them. It's the, "Who am I, and Who am I Not?" idea of reflecting on one's experiences.

Quote:Steve, what do you think of the 4D reality already in existence? Is it right here, among us but in a higher vibration so we can't see it? Is it a matter of attuning ourselves to it? With the universe being holographic...

Quote:62.29 Questioner: Yes.

Ra: You must see the Earth, as you call it, as being seven Earths. There is red, orange, yellow, and there will soon be a completed green color vibratory locus for fourth-density entities which they will call Earth. During the fourth-density experience, due to the lack of development of fourth-density entities, the third-density planetary sphere is not useful for habitation since the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth-density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third-density.

Thus in fourth-density the red, orange, and green energy nexi of your planet will be activated while the yellow is in potentiation along with the blue and the indigo.

Quote:the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth-density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third-density.

(12-26-2008, 01:13 AM)DreamingPeace Wrote: Steve, what do you think of the 4D reality already in existence? Is it right here, among us but in a higher vibration so we can't see it? Is it a matter of attuning ourselves to it? With the universe being holographic...

Quote:We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. From the preceding answer, you may perhaps guess that we shall inform you that there is a very easy way to judge as to how close you are to fourth density. You are in fourth density, my friends. You are in third-density bodies and so are not able to see the incredibly beautiful infant fourth-density Earth that interpenetrates third density at this time.

(12-29-2008, 03:58 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote:

(12-26-2008, 01:13 AM)DreamingPeace Wrote: Steve, what do you think of the 4D reality already in existence? Is it right here, among us but in a higher vibration so we can't see it? Is it a matter of attuning ourselves to it? With the universe being holographic...

DreamingPeace, here's another quote I just found from a Q'uo session:

Quote:We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. From the preceding answer, you may perhaps guess that we shall inform you that there is a very easy way to judge as to how close you are to fourth density. You are in fourth density, my friends. You are in third-density bodies and so are not able to see the incredibly beautiful infant fourth-density Earth that interpenetrates third density at this time.

So there's some additional validation for you!

Steve

Quote:...there is a very easy way to judge as to how close you are to fourth density.... You are in fourth density, my friends. You are in third-density bodies and so are not able to see the incredibly beautiful infant fourth-density Earth that interpenetrates third density at this time.

(01-02-2009, 01:08 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote:

Quote:...there is a very easy way to judge as to how close you are to fourth density.... You are in fourth density, my friends. You are in third-density bodies and so are not able to see the incredibly beautiful infant fourth-density Earth that interpenetrates third density at this time.

Did Ra actually say what that 'easy way' was? Can you clarify? Thanks!

DreamingPeace, I interpreted Q'uo's "easy way" as in, we're already in fourth, which can't get any easier than that to judge!

I think if you italicize the "are", it answers the question a little better.. What do you think?

...there is a very easy way to judge as to how close you are to fourth density.... You are in fourth density, my friends.

To me, that says, "Can't get any easier than that!" See the angle?

(01-02-2009, 02:26 PM)DreamingPeace Wrote: ...there is a very easy way to judge as to how close you are to fourth density.... You are in fourth density, my friends.

To me, that says, "Can't get any easier than that!" See the angle?


Oh! I get it! Thanks!

(01-25-2009, 10:20 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I know the 4D shifting into 5D is here as everything is happening faster and there is a definite telepathic emergent ability that is evident in everyday life happening on a grand scale...

Also, I do a technique called Ho'Oponopono whenever I am faced with negativity that effects me... It seems to clear the air and my mind and assist me and the world around me in integrating and filling with Light.

fairyfarmgirl

(01-25-2009, 10:07 PM)full moon Wrote: I want to keep it positive, too.

I'm new here.

There are different dimensions here that we can't see. Have you ever seen a ghost? If you have, you'll notice that they are on a plane of existance about one foot above ours. I'm not the only one who's seen something like that. So, yes, there are other dimensions, but most of us can't seem them.

(03-28-2009, 12:53 PM)starmania Wrote: Is anyone else here getting this, It seems I am like some kind of magnet to Negatives, Ive joined a few forums in order to maybe help others, however I find my posts are usually replied to by Negatives who then set out to discredit my posts, or put some kind of doubts on them. It also seems like I am constantly having to get negatives away from me, I never disclose myself as being a wanderer, I merely try to help others. Is it me or is this happening to others.
On this topic here, I can see into other dimensions mainly at night, but its not clear as such, it is mostly from a distance when I get to where I saw the entities , theyre no longer there.

(12-25-2008, 08:02 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Greetings to everyone!

There seems to be a lot of (apparently) STS-oriented, sensationalistic stuff out there about 2012. Just recently, I was in a movie theater and saw a preview for a movie entitled '2012' that appeared to be all "the world is ending" doom-and-gloom. And there is plenty of it on the internet. As the date draws nearer, we'll likely be seeing more of that negatively-focused stuff, whose purpose seems to be to instill fear.

(08-29-2009, 11:45 PM)godexpressing Wrote: This is my second experience dealing with these type of issues. I was raised a Jehovah's Witness and told that this world would be destroyed and the survivors would begin living in a "new system" beginning October 1975. The JW message was one of fear, death and destruction for most of humanity. I am not surprised to see similar propaganda related to 2012.

(12-25-2008, 09:49 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote:

(12-25-2008, 08:02 PM)DreamingPeace Wrote: Greetings to everyone!

There seems to be a lot of (apparently) STS-oriented, sensationalistic stuff out there about 2012...

...Has anyone else observed this?

The same thing is happening right now with the media. To me, the news is nothing more than a huge catalystic engine that is constantly spewing out topics that weave into our reality. And it is up to us to look at these topics and recognize ourselves in them, or to reject them. It's the, "Who am I, and Who am I Not?" idea of reflecting on one's experiences.

The other twist is that all of the negativity that you perceive may not be negative to someone else! Who's to judge that an apocalyptic 2012 movie is really STS? This means we are really judging our own relative experiences and reactions. The fact that you are noticing these "negative" movies, media releases, horrible acts taking place in the world, are signs that you are moving even further away from being "in the middle." I would argue that the more you polarize, the more you are going to feel as if the world is one big harp of negativity! That is, until our consensus reality comes to the same conclusions that love is the answer instead of fear, and the negative vibrations lessen day by day.

That's where I feel the new age is going to really help with that.

Just a thought, I could be totally wrong for one person, but right for another who resonates with my feelings. It's a relative perception, for sure! But one that is hopefully close to the truth.

Steve

(12-25-2008, 08:02 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Greetings to everyone!

Quote:There seems to be a lot of (apparently) STS-oriented, sensationalistic stuff out there about 2012. Just recently, I was in a movie theater and saw a preview for a movie entitled '2012' that appeared to be all "the world is ending" doom-and-gloom. And there is plenty of it on the internet. As the date draws nearer, we'll likely be seeing more of that negatively-focused stuff, whose purpose seems to be to instill fear.

Ra Wrote:In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are. This is the Law of One.

May we enunciate this law in more detail?

Questioner: No.

Ra: I am Ra. Is there another query at this time?

Questioner: Can you comment on the coming planetary changes in our physical reality? [Noise of cassette tape being flipped.]

Ra: I am Ra. I preferred to wait till this instrument had again reached the proper state of depth of singleness or one-pointedness before we spoke.

The changes are very, very trivial. We do not concern ourselves with the conditions which bring about harvest.

Tenet Nosce Wrote:I am trying to say that Ra's actions are why the graph "goes flatline" when the remote viewers hit the end of 2012. Because of the abrogation of free will from the Ra contact, we are blind to the truth about 2012. Each must choose between the "original version" eventuated as the natural result of human evolution and the "apocalyptic version" created through the distortion of the Ra communication, through the unforeseen consequence of how it would be become twisted in Time in the minds of those not prepared to receive the Law of One. Moreover, I view the work of David Wilcock to be, in many ways, a continuation of the attempt to patch this Wrinkle In Time.

So, the "Curse of Ra" is also the "hidden key" to history which provides for a continuity of misguided thinking, framed in false eschatology, from the end of the Egyptian Old Kingdom to modern day.

Maybe in some way, Ra's intervention was a reflection of action taken in an even more distant time... the fabled Golden Age where the gods lived amongst men, and mated with them.

Tenet Nosce

Bring4th_Monica Wrote:I used to be really caught up in a lot of the behind-the-scenes STS activity, and that probably was not a very good use of energy! What helped me a lot was a transcript from Q'uo (from about a year ago) about how empires come and go, and most of us probably don't need to concern ourselves too much with them, because helping to raise the vibration of the planet is far more important. Anyway, as the vibration is raised, world events will begin to reflect that.

Bring4th_Monica Wrote:I feel a lot more optimistic now, ever since around the time of the election. It almost feels to me like we had been heading off-course (as Q'uo said, they were trying to take us off-course...keep us from rejoining the path to 4D positive), but the course seems to have shifted to positive...I felt a tangible lightening...everywhere I look I perceive a lightness that I did not perceive before...Has anyone else observed this?

(03-28-2009, 12:53 PM)starmania Wrote: Is anyone else here getting this, It seems I am like some kind of magnet to Negatives, Ive joined a few forums in order to maybe help others, however I find my posts are usually replied to by Negatives who then set out to discredit my posts, or put some kind of doubts on them. It also seems like I am constantly having to get negatives away from me, I never disclose myself as being a wanderer, I merely try to help others. Is it me or is this happening to others.
On this topic here, I can see into other dimensions mainly at night, but its not clear as such, it is mostly from a distance when I get to where I saw the entities , theyre no longer there.

(12-25-2008, 09:49 PM)Bring4th_Steve Wrote: I will add this, though. I am a great believer in the concept that we experience everything, both good and bad, allows ourselves to look at where we stand on any given catalyst that enters our lives.

(07-14-2011, 07:44 PM)Oceania Wrote: those are the "debaters". they thrive on forums, why? because they can debate endlessly there! always someone there to argue against them, that to them is FUN. i learned years ago to let them go and not talk to them except in fairy whispers.

(12-25-2008, 08:02 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Greetings to everyone!

There seems to be a lot of (apparently) STS-oriented, sensationalistic stuff out there about 2012. Just recently, I was in a movie theater and saw a preview for a movie entitled '2012' that appeared to be all "the world is ending" doom-and-gloom. And there is plenty of it on the internet. As the date draws nearer, we'll likely be seeing more of that negatively-focused stuff, whose purpose seems to be to instill fear.

I thought we could discuss ideas on keeping our environments and attitudes positive, amidst such negative or mixed-polarity messages in the entertainment industry and mass media.

I used to be really caught up in a lot of the behind-the-scenes STS activity, and that probably was not a very good use of energy! What helped me a lot was a transcript from Q'uo (from about a year ago) about how empires come and go, and most of us probably don't need to concern ourselves too much with them, because helping to raise the vibration of the planet is far more important. Anyway, as the vibration is raised, world events will begin to reflect that.

I feel a lot more optimistic now, ever since around the time of the election. It almost feels to me like we had been heading off-course (as Q'uo said, they were trying to take us off-course...keep us from rejoining the path to 4D positive), but the course seems to have shifted to positive...I felt a tangible lightening...everywhere I look I perceive a lightness that I did not perceive before...Has anyone else observed this?