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Black Holes - 13TreeofLife13 - 02-17-2012
Black holes have always seemed like the most intriguing aspect of the material universe to me. Science doesn't offer that good of insight on them. The only thing I find noteworthy is the theory that black holes suck in matter and then it is recycled into...another universe? I was just wondering if anyone had any interesting theories, have heard any channeling on this subject, etc. I would be more interested if it wasn't from a scientific perspective because that approach causes limitations.
RE: Black Holes - Meerie - 02-18-2012
I had a regression session under hypnosis, in which I created a black hole.
During the session, I was floating in space, surrounded by chaos and debris. I got rid of my physical blockages, they left my body thru the mouth, then started swirling around me. The chaos that reigned before suddenly started to form some kind of order, the things that had escaped from my throat formed together and built some kind of white spiral. The space on the outside of that spiral was black and clear and the spiral started getting more dense and gaining momentum. actually it looked a bit like a galaxy.
And in the center of that galaxy was that black being that was me, but it was very dense and more roundish, too. A bit like a black hole.
The insight I got from that was to try to focus my energy more, so it would not get scattered in space.
The words "order out of chaos" just popped up, I am sure you have heard that before
RE: Black Holes - Ashim - 02-18-2012
(02-17-2012, 04:29 PM)13TreeofLife13 Wrote: Black holes have always seemed like the most intriguing aspect of the material universe to me. Science doesn't offer that good of insight on them. The only thing I find noteworthy is the theory that black holes suck in matter and then it is recycled into...another universe? I was just wondering if anyone had any interesting theories, have heard any channeling on this subject, etc. I would be more interested if it wasn't from a scientific perspective because that approach causes limitations.
I feel that matter may not be so well understood.
We have physical matter, like my car, my guitar, my flux capacitor.........
and we have what 'matters' to us. That would mean for me - our karma.
Matter, I feel must have 2 components:
1 physical (densities 1+3+5) and 1 non physical (densities 2+4+6-12)
A black hole (whole) is a creation of negative polarity consisting of entities of various power bound together by the gravity of negative spiritual mass.
It's their karma that keeps the 'family' or Social Memory Complex together.
When drawn into the black hole physical matter is reduced to one single atom - the atom seed.
Out of this seed entities are able, by taking part in the evolutionary process of a plan(et), to once again manifest a human form. This however takes much much time and 'hard work'. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
The dark ones on earth would have preferred the black hole version.
Happily we can all look forward to a WHITE WHOLE
L&L
p.s There is more information regarding the elements if you wish to ask.
RE: Black Holes - CarlS - 02-18-2012
Black Holes are fun to think about. I like to think that a black hole is very much like the pupil of your eye. Out in space the black holes have disc like swirling clouds of debre circling the holes gravitational pull and being sucked into it and sent to another universe or someplace unimaginable. Our eyes suck in everything we see around us and send that energy/data or info to our brains which is another universe inside our body. Much like the cloud nebula photos look like brain neurons firing. We're all parts of the same thing but function at different levels.
That's why when you look into the eyes of another you see the creator. In one black hole and out the other. The people looking for the God particle at CERN theorize they will also make a tiny black hole that will evaporate. How do they know black holes evaporate and why are scientists looking for the god particle? Because it's fun is the answer.
If space is black does that mean it's one gigantic black hole that's reversed it's gravitational pull to be ever expanding? It's too much for us mortals to comprehend.
RE: Black Holes - Ashim - 02-19-2012
(02-18-2012, 05:19 PM)CarlS Wrote: Black Holes are fun to think about. I like to think that a black hole is very much like the pupil of your eye. Out in space the black holes have disc like swirling clouds of debre circling the holes gravitational pull and being sucked into it and sent to another universe or someplace unimaginable. Our eyes suck in everything we see around us and send that energy/data or info to our brains which is another universe inside our body. Much like the cloud nebula photos look like brain neurons firing. We're all parts of the same thing but function at different levels.
That's why when you look into the eyes of another you see the creator. In one black hole and out the other. The people looking for the God particle at CERN theorize they will also make a tiny black hole that will evaporate. How do they know black holes evaporate and why are scientists looking for the god particle? Because it's fun is the answer.
If space is black does that mean it's one gigantic black hole that's reversed it's gravitational pull to be ever expanding? It's too much for us mortals to comprehend.
The Creator, in order to discover all that he is not, chose, in great wisdom to split the creation. He discovered that he was indeed all things but also had infinite potential. Thus the first 'downstep' was made.
We are not mortals. This is a result on the human collective consciousness on earth caused by the introduction of deathfear.
We are immortal and infinite in nature.
Comprehension or (under)standing is also infinite, thus there is nothing that can not be known. Here we refer to the density of an entity as an expression of their understanding of creation at a soul level.
RE: Black Holes - Meerie - 02-19-2012
CarlS, you are a genius. Thanks a million for that post, that cleared up a lot for me
RE: Black Holes - zenmaster - 02-19-2012
(02-17-2012, 04:29 PM)13TreeofLife13 Wrote: I would be more interested if it wasn't from a scientific perspective because that approach causes limitations.[/font]What approach does not cause limitations?
RE: Black Holes - 13TreeofLife13 - 02-23-2012
(02-18-2012, 03:48 AM)Ashim Wrote: p.s There is more information regarding the elements if you wish to ask.
I am interested.
(02-19-2012, 09:42 PM)zenmaster Wrote: What approach does not cause limitations?
If you want to be really technical then all approached have limitations. So I guess I should have said that the scientific approach has more limitations than others.
RE: Black Holes - zenmaster - 02-23-2012
(02-23-2012, 05:32 PM)13TreeofLife13 Wrote:I'm interested in approaches which have less limitations. What would be one such approach?(02-19-2012, 09:42 PM)zenmaster Wrote: What approach does not cause limitations?
If you want to be really technical then all approached have limitations. So I guess I should have said that the scientific approach has more limitations than others.
RE: Black Holes - 13TreeofLife13 - 02-24-2012
(02-23-2012, 09:20 PM)zenmaster Wrote: I'm interested in approaches which have less limitations. What would be one such approach?
Two approaches that I find to have less limitations are those that are meditative and/or creative. In my experience you can provide catalysts for finding out any information by methods of praying to produce less limitations. Patience is the only real limitation that I can think of for these methods.
RE: Black Holes - zenmaster - 02-25-2012
(02-24-2012, 11:48 AM)13TreeofLife13 Wrote:You then might be surprised to know that many scientists indeed already follow this approach, and have been since the creation of the scientific method, relying heavily on the intuition in order to hypothesize in the first place. I'd submit that the limitations (as used in science) are generally helpful and wise if one understands why the constraints are used in the first place.(02-23-2012, 09:20 PM)zenmaster Wrote: I'm interested in approaches which have less limitations. What would be one such approach?
Two approaches that I find to have less limitations are those that are meditative and/or creative. In my experience you can provide catalysts for finding out any information by methods of praying to produce less limitations. Patience is the only real limitation that I can think of for these methods
Science is one of the best approaches to rationalizing the info which is brought to attention through intuition. However, there is a long historical/traditional basis for particular thinking (in the sciences) which places more limitations on possible explanatory paradigms than what we call 'science' or the scientific method, itself, actually does. We tend to borrow old thought, seemingly the most tenable, in order to produce new thought.
RE: Black Holes - 13TreeofLife13 - 02-25-2012
(02-25-2012, 10:31 AM)zenmaster Wrote: You then might be surprised to know that many scientists indeed already follow this approach, and have been since the creation of the scientific method, relying heavily on the intuition in order to hypothesize in the first place. I'd submit that the limitations (as used in science) are generally helpful and wise if one understands why the constraints are used in the first place.Creating constraints that revolve around our current understanding of the universe is a mistake. I think we overestimate how much we know about the universe. Furthermore, I am not one to necessarily trust what I am told by the scientific community. I just don't have as much faith in approaching everything in a scientific manner as it seems you do. Approaching the universe solely by logical reasoning would simplify the complexity of the universe. The product of disagreeing with me would imply that we have a different set of philosophical beliefs. That is why I find this discussion obsolete. Nevertheless, I do enjoy your input.
Science is one of the best approaches to rationalizing the info which is brought to attention through intuition. However, there is a long historical/traditional basis for particular thinking (in the sciences) which places more limitations on possible explanatory paradigms than what we call 'science' or the scientific method, itself, actually does. We tend to borrow old thought, seemingly the most tenable, in order to produce new thought.
RE: Black Holes - one4ever - 03-20-2012
i see a black hole as a heart beat of cosmos.. first a sun/system is projecting all of its love out as light so the light can learn and love when it has done that, a equal amount of light will seek to get back to the source and tell all about it..i think some of light is from other places so the sun learn/speaks whit another suns/systems. when the light is compressed it will turn dark and no light will be sent away from it. after it has gained enough experience/light it will make a new plan and start a new system and the process will continue.
instead of black holes you can call them white holes because all things are made of light.