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Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - zenmaster - 02-12-2012

Quote:6.4 Questioner: I think this might be an appropriate time to include a little more background on yourself, possibly information having to do with where you came from prior to your involvement with planet Earth, if this is possible.

Ra: I am Ra. I am, with the social memory complex of which I am a part, one of those who voyaged outward from another planet within your own solar system, as this entity would call it. The planetary influence was that you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the sixth dimension our physical beings were what you would call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. Our physical body complex covering, which you call the integument, had a golden luster.

In this form we decided to come among your peoples. Your peoples at that time were much unlike us in physical appearance, as you might call it. We, thus, did not mix well with the population and were obviously other than they. Thus, our visit was relatively short, for we found ourselves in the hypocritical position of being acclaimed as other than your other-selves. This was the time during which we built the structures in which you show interest.

Seems there is another possible numbering mistake here and that Ra actually meant third dimension, instead of sixth. But I have not seen a correction.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - Aureus - 02-12-2012

Keep in mind the 6th dimension is a different thing than 6th density, right?


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - zenmaster - 02-12-2012

Seems terms are interchangeable. If you think there are different, I'd very much like to hear your take.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - GoldenBeam - 02-13-2012

If your contention is that they were of the 3rd dimension, then how could they have come here? They would have been working their way through duality as we are.

They were of a higher dimension using whatever coping skills needed to be in the lower vibration during their visit here.

To me? It is all golden.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - zenmaster - 02-13-2012

(02-13-2012, 12:30 AM)GoldenBeam Wrote: If your contention is that they were of the 3rd dimension, then how could they have come here? They would have been working their way through duality as we are.
My contention is that in that Q/A they were describing their native 3D appearance, and that was chosen as the form used for their work in Egypt (as they say manifested from the 5th dimension, billion years+ later).



RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - Ankh - 02-13-2012

Maybe they tend to say dimension about the space, the density where they are? Meaning that a being of sixth density can go down a level, or whatever they do, and be in fifth dimension. That aside, they said that they are in fifth dimension, and in that quote they said that "when we were at the sixth dimension". Not saying that it is how they've meant. Perhaps they did mean the third dimension. Good question, zen...


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - Aureus - 02-13-2012

(02-12-2012, 08:49 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Seems terms are interchangeable. If you think there are different, I'd very much like to hear your take.

Just seems confusing to me. Though, do we not exist in 4 dimensions right now? 3 dimensions of space, 1 dimension of time.

Perhaps 6th dimensions means 3 dimensions of space and 3 dimensions of time. Isn't 4th density outside of time?

Just speculation ^^




RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - zenmaster - 02-13-2012

(02-13-2012, 06:05 AM)Wander Wrote:
(02-12-2012, 08:49 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Seems terms are interchangeable. If you think there are different, I'd very much like to hear your take.

Just seems confusing to me. Though, do we not exist in 4 dimensions right now? 3 dimensions of space, 1 dimension of time.
But Ra never used that conceptualization when referring to dimensionality. i.e. 3 spatial / cartesian axis vectorial dimensions and 1 temporal scalar dimension

(02-13-2012, 06:05 AM)Wander Wrote: Perhaps 6th dimensions means 3 dimensions of space and 3 dimensions of time.
It seems obvious from the material, that dimensions = density. Keep in mind that the '3 dimensions of space and 3 dimensions of time' start out at 1st density, according to the Reciprocal System of theory. And that 6-dimensional mathematical model would be the '1st dimension'. Each successively higher density adds yet more 'degrees of freedom' upon the lower, embedded dimension.

(02-13-2012, 06:05 AM)Wander Wrote: Isn't 4th density outside of time?
The 4th density entity has a mind-body connection which enables a different overview of time. It's not yet balanced, so not completely 'outside of time'. Yet in comparison to 3D, an 'outside of time experience' and the utility of that is probably a large part of 4th density entity's awareness (i.e. strategically speaking). Time apparently holds sway until late 6D - because 'time' is still being balanced (as work in consciousness) with 'space' up until then.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - Plenum - 02-13-2012

(02-12-2012, 03:57 PM)zenmaster Wrote:
Quote:6.4 The planetary influence was that you call Venus. We are a race old in your measures. When we were at the sixth dimension our physical beings were what you would call golden. We were tall and somewhat delicate. Our physical body complex covering, which you call the integument, had a golden luster.

although there doesn't appear to be any description of 6th Density enitities' appearances, we do have some info on 5D entities' bodies:

Quote:62.21 Fifth-density entities are very light beings although they do have the type of physical vehicle which you understand. Fifth-density entities are very fair to look upon in your standard of beauty.

and one can imagine that as one ascends to 6D, the mind/body/spirit complex becomes even more like Light, and an embodiment of 'higher vibrations'.

but there is a sense that one is still individuated, and occupying separate 'vessels'.




RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - zenmaster - 02-13-2012

But what we're trying to figure out is, from the standpoint of knowing that Ra was in the 5th dimension when visiting earth and took a 3D (corporeal) form (by willing it), did Ra use their native 3D form for that. I think they did, and that would mean a numbering mistake there, presumably.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - 3DMonkey - 02-14-2012

Quote:6.7 Questioner: How were you able to make the transition from Venus? Did you have to change your dimension to walk upon the Earth?

Ra: You will remember the exercise of the wind. The dissolution into nothingness is the dissolution into unity, for there is no nothingness. From the sixth dimension, we are capable of manipulating, by thought, the intelligent infinity present in each particle of light or distorted light so that we were able to clothe ourselves in a replica visible in the third density of our mind/body/spirit complexes in the sixth density. We were allowed this experiment by the Council which guards this planet.

I tried bringing attention to this in the "chics" video thread.

I'm not thinking they are interchangeable. I think here, they elaborating on the use of the sixth dimension (perhaps a vibration of time/space) to give their sixth density m/b/s a third density appearance (perhaps a space/time make over).

I don't think they made a mistake in this instance. It does bring up an ironic point though- that they claim they are not good with our 3D numbers, and yet they use 1-8 definitively throughout the contact.


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It is also of note that they are a "we" when doing this. Meaning the "we" they describe is a description of their totality (sort of) that crosses the time/space space/time 'barrier' with ease when explaining themselves in Q&A format.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - zenmaster - 02-14-2012

I think you are right 3DM, regarding the physical 3D appearance chosen based on some kind of extrapolation of their current form.


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - abstrktion - 02-14-2012

Curious about all this--density v. dimensions.

I've heard the ascended masters "live" in the 12th dimension? 4th Dimension is astral plane? Sometimes correlating different sources is difficult. RA claims to be on the 6th?

thoughts?


RE: Q/A 6.4 - physical appearance of Venusians - BlatzAdict - 02-14-2012

Totally on a shallow level but.. I saw a picture once of a supposed venusian
it wasn't a photograph it was a painting but the individual had white hair.. and was very pale. but human looking. like a white haired plejoran.