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Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Monica - 07-27-2009
This is just speculation. I'm not a very scientific person, so I really don't know what I'm talking about here!
Over the weekend, my hubby showed me something about this huge radiation field that envelops the Earth. I forgot what it was called - Well's something maybe? (Anyone know?) It is commonly cited by those who don't believe the US actually went to the Moon.
Well, anyway, when he showed me this, my immediate thought was that maybe it had something to do with the quarantine. As in, how it translates in 3D, physically.
Then, today, I saw this:
http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=114847042282&h=Uf4so&u=_OfxX&ref=nf
And again I was struck with the thought that maybe this had something to do with the lifting of the quarantine.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Nathan - 08-10-2009
Hi Monica, I think it is Van Allen belt. I don't know much about that now, but I am interested in that too and hope that will find out something about that soon
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Lorna - 08-10-2009
wow! that's really interesting!
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Vince - 08-17-2009
(07-27-2009, 08:07 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Over the weekend, my hubby showed me something about this huge radiation field that envelops the Earth. I forgot what it was called - Well's something maybe? (Anyone know?) It is commonly cited by those who don't believe the US actually went to the Moon.it may be reasonabe to theorize that the entire solar system is engulfed in a large magnetic field to allow for the rotation of the planets around the sun.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Ali Quadir - 08-17-2009
(08-17-2009, 09:28 AM)Vince Wrote:(07-27-2009, 08:07 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Over the weekend, my hubby showed me something about this huge radiation field that envelops the Earth. I forgot what it was called - Well's something maybe? (Anyone know?) It is commonly cited by those who don't believe the US actually went to the Moon.it may be reasonabe to theorize that the entire solar system is engulfed in a large magnetic field to allow for the rotation of the planets around the sun.
Travelling in the van Allen belt is similar to a visit to Chernobyl. It's not healthy but it's not lethal either. The astronauts traveled through the belt in about an hour. During this time they were shielded by the space ship but still received a large dose of radiation. Things would have looked bleak if they had stayed there for a few days. The effects of this are negligible in the short run and might cause problems like leukemia in the long run. Basically the astronauts just rolled with the punches on this one. Risk the chance of cancer in old age but get one hell of a life experience in return.
It's really just electric particles trapped in a thin layer in earths magnetic field causing weak radiation. I cannot connect it to a quarantine in any way since I cannot imagine any race advanced enough to get here through time and space yet not be able to get through this belt.
There is indeed a magnetic field throughout the solar system, much like the magnetic field lies around the earth. This field is called the heliosphere. This does not affect the planets since they're affected by gravity a much stronger force. But it does to some extent keep out particles from outside the solar system. Virtually all matter in the heliosphere has emanated from the sun.
I think you guys sense some intuitive truths and intend to project this unto the heliosphere/van allen belt. But if you leave out those connections there'd be a lot less to object against. I too have the feeling that the electromagnetic sphere of influence is comparable to the human electromagnetic sphere of influence. Just like the helio sphere is the sphere of influence for the sun. There will I expect be a similar but very weak magnetic field separating the galactic disk from the rest of the universe. I share the feeling of symmetry and meaning.
But I'd recommend against connecting these feelings to principles we do not understand fully well. Especially when there are scientists who understand it far better yet did not make this connection. The only result we can expect otherwise is confusion.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Vince - 08-17-2009
(08-17-2009, 11:29 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: There is indeed a magnetic field throughout the solar system, much like the magnetic field lies around the earth. This field is called the heliosphere. This does not affect the planets since they're affected by gravity a much stronger force. But it does to some extent keep out particles from outside the solar system. Virtually all matter in the heliosphere has emanated from the sun.thank you. i'm sorta naive about such things and don't wish to project. i wasn't sure how much scientists actually know or think that they know about such things. i just imagine greater forces at work behind the scenes that we're probably not sufficiently aware of.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Ali Quadir - 08-17-2009
(08-17-2009, 11:54 AM)Vince Wrote: thank you. i'm sorta naive about such things and don't wish to project. i wasn't sure how much scientists actually know or think that they know about such things. i just imagine greater forces at work behind the scenes that we're probably not sufficiently aware of.
I don't think you need to imagine
I doubt we can even comprehend the full extent of reality in our current form. We know from Ra and other sources that there is indeed a quarantine. It's just probably not materialized in the van allen belt. What we know of it doesn't seem to agree.Ra explains a bit about the quarantine here. I think I understand it but I have some difficulty putting it into words. I'm used to thinking more in forces and movements and less in entities of a confederation. But I can't argue with the content of his words at all. At any rate the quarantine is a conscious choice of will of a sufficiently high level entity all below it in the hierarchy are incapable of even imagining breaking quarantine. It's not a possibility in their minds. Because it is considered not a possibility upstream.
From my own sources the intent is to give humanity the choice. If either side would reveal themselves and show themselves to humanity completely our free will would be broken like possibly our sanity. The quarantine preserves the balance and is not completely water tight. It's like a huge wall of resistance. The storm outside is a breeze inside.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Vince - 08-27-2009
(08-17-2009, 06:24 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: From my own sources the intent is to give humanity the choice. If either side would reveal themselves and show themselves to humanity completely our free will would be broken like possibly our sanity. The quarantine preserves the balance and is not completely water tight. It's like a huge wall of resistance. The storm outside is a breeze inside.
what area does this quarantine cover? and why are people being quarantined?
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Ali Quadir - 08-27-2009
(08-27-2009, 12:47 AM)Vince Wrote:It's not so much the people being quarantined. It's more like the rest of the universe being under quarantine as far as earth is concerned.(08-17-2009, 06:24 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: From my own sources the intent is to give humanity the choice. If either side would reveal themselves and show themselves to humanity completely our free will would be broken like possibly our sanity. The quarantine preserves the balance and is not completely water tight. It's like a huge wall of resistance. The storm outside is a breeze inside.
what area does this quarantine cover? and why are people being quarantined?
I understand that the quarantine on our behalf is intended to preserve earths free choice. Whether we want to go STS or STO is our decision. It would be hard to make that decision when a highly advanced race is dictating our choices for us. Basically it stops first contact taking place until a certain point where mankind has clarified some issues for itself.Although on the other hand very informed sources like Stephen Greer suggest earthlings are not allowed to travel interstellar at this point. It'd be basically like opening the tigers gate at the zoo. We're not the most civilized of species. They're worried for their own well being. There is a point in this. Also for the longest time it seemed impossible to reach mars, probe after probe failed mid flight. This could have been a symptom of the quarantine. The fact that we're landing probe after probe now might mean the quarantine is slowly being lifted.
My personal understanding is that this quarantine is for our mutual benefit. It's also not going to remain standing much longer.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Vince - 08-27-2009
(08-27-2009, 04:04 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: My personal understanding is that this quarantine is for our mutual benefit. It's also not going to remain standing much longer.
so what happens when the quarantine becomes lifted? will our species have greater interactions with other alien species? who created the quarantine in the first place that they might lift it?
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Marina - 10-26-2009
I believe the quarantine protects humans from approaches by beings of a higher vibration who could try to dominate us, an infringement on our freewill. If one side does it then the other gets an opportunity as well so that Ra was careful not to overstep this boundary.
Another aspect of this is that outsiders cannot approach us without our asking for help of either a positive or negative nature. The quarantine gives a lot of power to human beings and makes "free will" a possibility--that is we then have the choice of being of service to self or of service to another.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - ayadew - 10-29-2009
The reason the confederation flies around in our skies is to spread knowledge of intelligent infinity in the form of 'mystery'.
Well, UFOs aren't really mysterious anymore, alot of people take them for granted now haha
Maybe a complete lift of the quarantine is in order, ie massive invasion of.. love!
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Sacred Fool - 11-01-2009
As I read it, the quarantine is to balance foreign interference (both positive & negative) during this sensitive time of choice and harvest on this planet.
Session 16 Wrote:Questioner: I would like to ask, considering the free will distortion of the Law of One, how can the Guardians quarantine the Earth? Is this quarantine within free will?
Ra: I am Ra. The Guardians guard the free will distortion of the mind/body/spirit complexes of third density on this planetary sphere. The events which required activation of quarantine were interfering with the free will distortion of mind/body/spirit complexes.
Questioner: I may be wrong, but it seems to me that it would be the free will of, say the Orion group, to interfere. How is this balanced with the information which you just gave?
Ra: I am Ra. The balancing is from dimension to dimension. The attempts of the so-called Crusaders to interfere with free will are acceptable upon the dimension of their understanding. However, the mind/body/spirit complexes of this dimension you call third form a dimension of free will which is not able to, shall we say, recognize in full, the distortions towards manipulation. Thus, in order to balance the dimensional variances in vibration, a quarantine, this being a balancing situation whereby the free will of the Orion group is not stopped but given a challenge. Meanwhile, the third group is not hindered from free choice.
It is enforced by Guardians (space cops, as it were) commissioned by the Council. The hole in the Van Allen belt os similar to the hole that can open up in the force Guardian force field from time to time.
Session 16 Wrote:Questioner: Could these “windows” that occur to let the Orion group come through once in a while have anything to do with this free will balancing?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
Questioner: Could you tell me how that works?
Ra: I am Ra. The closest analogy would be a random number generator within certain limits.
Questioner: What is the source of this random number generator? Is it created by the Guardians to balance their guarding? Or is it a source other than the Guardians?
Ra: I am Ra. All sources are one. However, we understand your query. The window phenomenon is an other-self phenomenon from the Guardians. It operates from the dimensions beyond space/time in what you may call the area of intelligent energy. Like your cycles, such balancing, such rhythms are as a clock striking. In the case of the windows, no entities have the clock. Therefore, it seems random. It is not random in the dimension which produces this balance. That is why we stated the analogy was within certain limits.
Questioner: Then this window balancing prevents the Guardians from reducing their positive polarization by totally eliminating the Orion contact through shielding. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In effect, the balancing allows an equal amount of positive and negative influx, this balanced by the mind/body/spirit distortions of the social complex. Thus in your particular planetary sphere, less negative, as you would call it, information or stimulus is necessary than positive due to the somewhat negative orientation of your social complex distortion.
Questioner: In this way, total free will is balanced so that individuals may have an equal opportunity to choose service to others or service to self. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.
In Session 12 there's talk about there being a force field around the earth to prevent foreign visitors which is, figuratively, like a brick wall. This would seem to be something other than the Van Allen belt.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - ayadew - 11-02-2009
The Van Allen belt, is according to our science, a phenomena created by the magnetic/polar forces of the planet's core, which is very crucial for this planet to even support life.
The force field is likely of higher dense order and completely invisible to us, but I doubt that our friends in space could prevent a pure 3rd density landing of craft.. if there even is any such.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - βαθμιαίος - 11-02-2009
(11-02-2009, 05:23 AM)ayadew Wrote: The force field is likely of higher dense order and completely invisible to us, but I doubt that our friends in space could prevent a pure 3rd density landing of craft.. if there even is any such.
Ra does discuss one example of 3rd-density craft getting through the quarantine. See session 8, questions 15-22 and session 38, questions 6-13.
RE: Physical Manifestation of the LIfting of the Quarantine? - Questioner - 11-02-2009
(11-02-2009, 05:23 AM)ayadew Wrote: The Van Allen belt, is according to our science, a phenomena created by the magnetic/polar forces of the planet's core, which is very crucial for this planet to even support life.
The force field is likely of higher dense order and completely invisible to us...
Ayadew, that's the way I also see the quarantine discussion from Session 12:
Quote:Q: I don’t understand how the Confederation stops the Orion
chariots from coming through the quarantine?
Ra: I am Ra. There is contact at the level of light-form or lightbody-being depending upon the vibratory level of the guardian. These guardians sweep reaches of your Earth’s energy fields to be aware of any entities approaching. An entity which is approaching is hailed in the name of the one Creator. Any entity thus hailed is bathed in love/light and will of free will obey the quarantine due to the power of the Law of One.
Q: What would happen to the entity if he did not obey the quarantine after being hailed?
Ra: I am Ra. To not obey quarantine after being hailed on the level of which we speak would be equivalent to your not stopping upon walking into a solid brick wall.
Q: What would happen to the entity if he did this? What would happen to his chariot?
Ra: I am Ra. The Creator is one being. The vibratory level of those able to breach the quarantine boundaries is such that upon seeing the love/light net it is impossible to break this Law. Therefore, nothing happens. No attempt is made. There is no confrontation. The only beings who are able to penetrate the quarantine are those who discover windows or distortions in the space/time continua surrounding your planet’s energy fields. Through these windows they come. These windows are rare and unpredictable.
And in Session 16:
Quote: The window phenomenon is an other-self phenomenon from the Guardians. It operates from the dimensions beyond space/time in what you may call the area of intelligent energy. Like your cycles, such balancing, such rhythms are as a clock striking. In the case of the windows, no entities have the clock. Therefore, it seems random. It is not random in the dimension which produces this balance. That is why we stated the analogy was within certain limits.
A "light-form"or "lightbody-being" is not the same as a magnetic field, but something or someone that sweeps the Earth's energy fields. "A love-light net" is not the same as a belt of charged particles. And a "window phenomenon" "from the dimensions beyond space/time" could not, by definition, be a space/time phenomenon of electromagnetic fields in physical space.