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Higher Self question - AnthroHeart - 11-30-2011
Does every being have their own higher self, or is the higher self the individualization of every being in a social memory complex into one being that is all of them? It occured to me that the higher self of Ra could be the entire social memory complex as one being. Is that how it works, or do I have faulty logic?
RE: Higher Self question - BrownEye - 11-30-2011
1st Density: Mineral kingdom
2nd Density: Plant & lower animal kingdom
3rd Density: Higher animal & lower human
4th Density Low: Astral, lower emotional realms
4th Density High: Etheric, higher mental realms
5th Density Low: Causal, creative realms
5th Density High: Soul (last level of individuality)
6th Density: Oversoul (social memory complex)
7th Density: Master oversoul, atmic plane
8th Density: Avatar planes, celestial heavens
9th Density: Christ planes, Buddhic planes, lower God worlds
10th Density: Higher God realms
11th Density: Universal realms
12th Density: The source; the mystery, the Tao
13th and beyond: The void, unmanifested creation
RE: Higher Self question - Oceania - 11-30-2011
what??? i don't want the void!
RE: Higher Self question - BrownEye - 11-30-2011
My understanding is similar to a geneology type structure.
![[Image: ancestor.gif]](http://www.manuelphp.com/autres_manuels/html/xml/representation/affichage/ancestor.gif)
On the bottom would be you, as a Soul. You can see that you have something similar to "siblings" which may happen to be your mate or even actual sibling. All of you may be a part of the same Oversoul. So, those of you are in all actuality, ONE.
The Oversouls are then part of a larger whole.
This would be a better representation as a circle or sphere. The top image is the simplest image concept I can come up with. This lower image is more "natural".
![[Image: Genealogy-fan-chart.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Genealogy-fan-chart.jpg)
RE: Higher Self question - Namaste - 11-30-2011
(11-30-2011, 02:32 PM)Pickle Wrote: 1st Density: Mineral kingdom
2nd Density: Plant & lower animal kingdom
3rd Density: Higher animal & lower human
4th Density Low: Astral, lower emotional realms
4th Density High: Etheric, higher mental realms
5th Density Low: Causal, creative realms
5th Density High: Soul (last level of individuality)
6th Density: Oversoul (social memory complex)
7th Density: Master oversoul, atmic plane
8th Density: Avatar planes, celestial heavens
9th Density: Christ planes, Buddhic planes, lower God worlds
10th Density: Higher God realms
11th Density: Universal realms
12th Density: The source; the mystery, the Tao
13th and beyond: The void, unmanifested creation
Where did the density definitions beyond 7D come from?
RE: Higher Self question - BrownEye - 11-30-2011
http://www.salrachele.com/webarticles/dimensionsanddensities.htm
http://www.selftransform.net/DensitiesandDimensions.htm
What may help with this..............you do not have a higher self..............a higher self has you.
(11-30-2011, 02:41 PM)Oceania Wrote: what??? i don't want the void!
You know that torus you guys have been talking about? You should see that the endless cycle works in this way.
7.Seventh Density — Culmination. The Seventh Density is the completed being, ''the Creator who knows Itself and compacts into the One Creation once again, as it readies to enter the Eighth Density."
8.Eighth Density — Return to infinity. According to Ra, there is a mystery here, which cannot be put into words. Just as in the musical scale, the Eighth Density is also the First Density of the next octave.
RE: Higher Self question - Ankh - 11-30-2011
Q'uo Wrote:We are those of Q’uo. We thank the one known as M. We believe that we grasp her query. The relationship of the self and the higher self to the social memory complex of which the higher self is a part within mid sixth density is that of an overshadowing energy that can be accessed by the desire of the self within incarnation. This can be accessed because the social memory complex of the sixth-density entity is part and parcel of the depths of the sixth-density entity’s self-definition. [It] is not simply that a member of a social memory complex defines itself as part of that complex, it is rather that all of those entities who have worked together in collaboration for one common purpose over time become closer than friends, or lovers, or mates. They become one in thought, one in hope, one in intention.
So there is the energy of all of that sixth-density social memory complex, which rests like an aura around the higher self. It is not that the social memory complex as a whole has more pointed advice to give you or more helpful resources to offer than the higher self by itself, it is that accepting the higher self’s social memory complex as part of the higher self, one is able to access the overwhelming power of the combined seeking of all those involved in the social memory complex. And it is often helpful simply to focus the self within that third-density, momentary desire. There is a clarifying energy to the social memory complex itself that is over and above the individual energy of that higher self that you may call your “highest and best self.”
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2011/2011_0108.aspx
RE: Higher Self question - AnthroHeart - 11-30-2011
So, there is this Great Story that exists as the combination of each story that an individual brings. We exchange our stories, and build this Great Story is that of the Oversoul of the social memory complex.
Ok, so when you reach 7th density, and coalesce toward creator, is that higher self being the Oversoul we have discussed?
In other words, when approaching Creator in 7D, you only approach as one being, rather than many?
And when the higher self merges with Creator, does then Creator create a new One Original Thought from this higher self? In other words, higher self then becoming a Universe?
RE: Higher Self question - BrownEye - 12-01-2011
(11-30-2011, 03:07 PM)Pickle Wrote: What may help with this..............you do not have a higher self..............a higher self has you.
Questioner: Are you saying then that we have not only a polarity of electrical charge but also a polarity in consciousness at that time?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. All is potentially available from the beginning of your physical space/time; it then being the function of consciousness complexes to begin to use the physical materials to gain experience to then polarize in a metaphysical sense. The potentials for this are not created by the experiencer but by intelligent energy.
(11-30-2011, 02:41 PM)Oceania Wrote: what??? i don't want the void!
This point only becomes important when you consider that when all of creation in its infinity has reached a spiritual gravitational mass of sufficient nature, the entire creation infinitely coalesces; the light seeking and finding its source and thusly ending the creation and beginning a new creation much as you consider the black hole, as you call it, with its conditions of infinitely great mass at the zero point from which no light may be seen as it has been absorbed.
Oh it wont be a void. Some day you will be a black hole ha ha ha.
RE: Higher Self question - Oceania - 12-01-2011
ok well as long as it doesn't suck. oops!
RE: Higher Self question - AnthroHeart - 12-01-2011
Being a black hole means we've become a Universe, right?
RE: Higher Self question - Oceania - 12-01-2011
i dunno.
RE: Higher Self question - AnthroHeart - 12-01-2011
My take is that when you reach higher self manifestation, and begin seventh density, you've pretty much smoothed out your distortions. When you merge with Creator, it's like a supernova. Creator creates a new One Original Thought, a new universe to add to the 10^49 universes out there already. (1 with 49 zeros), within the larger Absolutum Universe.
Let's see, that's: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Universes.
I got that number from watching a Youtube video in my universal consciousness state. Sadly I cannot find the video again, it was an awesome documentary. I really wish I had taken notes. Since I came down back to normal reality, the videos I found before aren't there now.
RE: Higher Self question - BrownEye - 12-01-2011
(12-01-2011, 06:58 AM)Oceania Wrote: ok well as long as it doesn't suck. oops!
Man that made my eyes water LoL.
RE: Higher Self question - Observer - 12-04-2011
(11-30-2011, 03:36 PM)Ankh Wrote:Q'uo Wrote:We are those of Q’uo. We thank the one known as M. We believe that we grasp her query. The relationship of the self and the higher self to the social memory complex of which the higher self is a part within mid sixth density is that of an overshadowing energy that can be accessed by the desire of the self within incarnation. This can be accessed because the social memory complex of the sixth-density entity is part and parcel of the depths of the sixth-density entity’s self-definition. [It] is not simply that a member of a social memory complex defines itself as part of that complex, it is rather that all of those entities who have worked together in collaboration for one common purpose over time become closer than friends, or lovers, or mates. They become one in thought, one in hope, one in intention.
So there is the energy of all of that sixth-density social memory complex, which rests like an aura around the higher self. It is not that the social memory complex as a whole has more pointed advice to give you or more helpful resources to offer than the higher self by itself, it is that accepting the higher self’s social memory complex as part of the higher self, one is able to access the overwhelming power of the combined seeking of all those involved in the social memory complex. And it is often helpful simply to focus the self within that third-density, momentary desire. There is a clarifying energy to the social memory complex itself that is over and above the individual energy of that higher self that you may call your “highest and best self.”
http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2011/2011_0108.aspx
Good quote Ankh, glad you showed us this.
& :idea:
RE: Higher Self question - BrownEye - 12-04-2011
Quote:They become one in thought, one in hope, one in intention.This happens in 3D as well. Really speeds things up.
RE: Higher Self question - Avocado - 12-08-2011
(11-30-2011, 02:55 PM)Namaste Wrote:(11-30-2011, 02:32 PM)Pickle Wrote: 1st Density: Mineral kingdom
2nd Density: Plant & lower animal kingdom
3rd Density: Higher animal & lower human
4th Density Low: Astral, lower emotional realms
4th Density High: Etheric, higher mental realms
5th Density Low: Causal, creative realms
5th Density High: Soul (last level of individuality)
6th Density: Oversoul (social memory complex)
7th Density: Master oversoul, atmic plane
8th Density: Avatar planes, celestial heavens
9th Density: Christ planes, Buddhic planes, lower God worlds
10th Density: Higher God realms
11th Density: Universal realms
12th Density: The source; the mystery, the Tao
13th and beyond: The void, unmanifested creation
Where did the density definitions beyond 7D come from?
This is really cool thanks for sharing pickle... but I'm a bit confused. My understanding of what's described in the Ra materiel is that 1D and 8D are the same, or they match. When I look at this list I would match up 1D and 12D. I see a holographic fractal (mineral) matched up with source. So the present moment progresses from mineral to the void, then back to the source/mineral where that mysterious thing happens and the fun begins again. I feel like this description shared by Pickle and the one given by Ra are possibly two ways of saying the same thing where some of the latter densities of these two different descriptions kind of fit together. (God I love this stuff!) The most beneficial knowledge of the densities for us as positive 3Ders would be the densities closest to us, so Ra could have been less descriptive of higher densities for this simple reason. Maybe I'm over analyzing this thing but it really through me off into a thought jumble.
I've always felt some friction when pondering oneness, especially before finding the LOO. I think that has something to do with the rational mind and the fact that this is not a realm of understanding. I still feel a little friction but have started to chill out thanks to faith. Maybe the feeling I experience is just my emotional experience of the law of confusion.
Anyway, this is just my attempt to alleviate some confusion.
If what I said doesn't make sense I will try to elaborate. I'd love to hear your understandings/thoughts/feelings
RE: Higher Self question - AnthroHeart - 12-08-2011
From the Chani Project: "u keep on belive u get yor own universe"
Is this after you merge with Creator in 7th Density. Then 8th density, (next Octave) you get your Universe?
Are we creators in training for the billions of years in order to create our Universe?