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Let’s start with level flight - THB - 05-15-2009
Right off the bat, the message about asking to understand the Law of One material was as much directed toward my self as it was toward others. I honestly just assumed that this was the same as all the other spiritual material I had seen, and the intricate meanings would very quickly become clear to me.
What often happens to me when working with a message is that it is also time to take my own advice. But then at that point it isn’t really my advice, but then in way we are sharing consciousness, so it is, but then I don’t even understand what I am so with a quite unspectacular logical poof it ceases to make any difference at all. It IS a message. On one hand I can try to explain it how it got from there to here, on the other hand I really can’t understand the difference between here and there or sender and receiver.
The rest of this post started off with an attempt to explain something about my previous posts while maintaining complete impartiality. But it just went off in a weird direction and I let it happen to see where it would end up. Italicized sections were typed in a meditative state, while acting as an impartial “watcher”. What I refer to as outside the Ego, or flow based consciousness. The words then flow through me without “sticking” to me, but I actually don’t really understand them, though I can still use them. I can’t really explain it any better.
(Italicized after the fact for clarity.)
I am currently, literally right now, experimenting with existence outside the Ego. This does not use the same concepts as Ego based existence. Even the word concepts doesn’t make sense, like saying pickle 50 times until it is meaningless. The reality is that none of this makes any sense to me right now. I’m just watching myself type.
In order to interact through these physical means requires the use of the concepts of the Ego. During my previous interactions I had slipped and become too associated with the Ego. I must also warn that I feel my self slipping right now. This is like meditation on typing
(In order to attempt to convey more of the feel of this experiment, I must let you know that I am pausing to take a break at this point to refocus.)
Non meditative:
It is very difficult to maintain non attachment or “watcher” status while typing. It is beyond me at this time to maintain it while trying to explain any of my previous actions h, got it again, so I’ll just let it go. Now this is getting weird as I seem to be back in the flow. I don’t know what Im going to doi next im just tryinig to kepp typing to sem f anyting use ful ges spit out her
The last part should have read something like: “Got it again, so I’ll just let it go. Now this is getting weird as I seem to be back in the flow. I don’t know what I’m going to do next I’m just trying to keep typing to see if anything useful gets spit out here.” And then I lost the “flow”
Hmm, I now have absolutely no idea what do with this post. I actually have very little idea what is going in most of the time, and once againI look at the word and the make no sense but I’m somehow able to use them. Perhaps I should try to become prficcietn tin
“time, and once again I look at the words and they make no sense, but I’m somehow able to use them. Perhaps I should try to become proficient in…”
This actually wears me out like I’m using too much energy. At first I was able to maintain focus even while making grammar correction and such, but I just don’t have the stamina to complete a post in this way yet.
I’m just not even going to try to pick up the flow so I can finish the post. I think I was going somewhere like becoming proficient in “flow” based existence even while allowing the concepts of the Ego to pass through me. This seems like a good direction for me to take. I think my critical mistake in earlier posts was thinking that I had to exist as the Ego in order to utilize it’s concepts. This caused me to become entangled in it. I was acting like an egoic jerk, while behaving a completely unpredictable way due to attempts to get back into the flow. When I sincerely believed that I was done here, that was enough to trigger a breakdown of the ego who still had things to say. Once back under some sort of control there was no point staying away. This is after all one of the only forums I haven’t been kicked off of yet.
“Let’s start with level flight” is a quote from Johnathan Livingston Seagull. It was meant to imply my desire to get back to basics and proceed with some measure of control here. Control for me means Ego, and negativity, but not necessarily finishing the post you intended to write without a strange episode in the middle of it. I’m fine with that, but if I start getting negative smack me. I’m walking a tightrope and I sometimes slip.
My head hurts, and I need a nap. Most importantly I have to pull away from the computer as these ideas are starting to trap me again.
(05-15-2009, 06:39 PM)THB Wrote: Hmm, I now have absolutely no idea what do with this post. I actually have very little idea what is going in most of the time, and once againI look at the word and the make no sense but I’m somehow able to use them. Perhaps I should try to become prficcietn tin
One more thing I noticed while skimming this after posting. It was my becoming accepting of a state of lack of understanding that resulted in my dropping back into the flow. I am increasingly certain that this is a very important concept to come to terms with. The Ego has absolutely no idea how to process different states of consciousness. As long as I am trying to “understand” in the conventional egoic sense, I can’t drop into the “flow”
(05-15-2009, 06:39 PM)THB Wrote: Right off the bat, the message about asking to understand the Law of One material was as much directed toward my self as it was toward others. I honestly just assumed that this was the same as all the other spiritual material I had seen, and the intricate meanings would very quickly become clear to me.
It's wrong, It's wrong, I'ts all wrong. We must give up all hope of
"understanding" this material, at least in the conventional sense of the
word. There are certainly different types of "understanding" but to get
the chance to use a different one we must first surrender our current
concept of "understanding."
Way back when I was trying to explain the other facet of evolution besides choosing STO or STS. I've been bouncing all around this "understanding" thing ever since the first Insight from.... post. I've even been getting direction in the matter, but I keep screwing up the messages. I tend to operate in this manner, with seemingly no direction at all, yet somehow I manage to pull some sort of spiritual understanding out of my ass.
I actually have it now. An understanding of what it means to not understand the material. Sweet.
Progress recap:
In the first insight, I completely believed that even considering this was a moot point, as you couldn't possibly understand anyways.
In the second and third insights I was getting direction concerning the importance of a lack of understanding.
In the circular logic post I showed how understanding dissappears in a unification of concepts.
In this mad rambling I noticed how as I became comfortable in the fact that I had no idea what what was happening I slipped into a different mode of operation.
Throughout it all I had no idea where it was going. But I just kept moving forward.
Here it is, my hopefully final opinion on the meaning of not understanding the Law of One material in order to evolve. You must be absolutely and completely befuddled by the material from the perspective of you current mind set. You must look at the words and not even understand what the words mean anymore. Then the ego will be in a complete state of disarray. At this point you can figure out what of you is still left standing, and how you can effectively operate in this condidtion.
RE: Let’s start with level flight - Monica - 05-19-2009
I think I understand your point, and I would partially agree, in the sense that it's healthy to realize how much we still don't know. Not even Ra claims to know everything! In fact, they emphasize how much even they still don't know!
However, I disagree that we must be 'befuddled' in order to evolve. I think we are all evolving, whether consciously or not. While in 3D, we sort of can't help but evolve, though maybe not as quickly as we'd like!
According to the Law of One, the only criteria for graduation to 4D is LOVE. I don't recall Ra mentioning befuddlement as being a criteria.
