Quote:68.4 Questioner: The primary reason that we decided to have this session today is that I might not be around for a while and I had a pressing question about what happened Sunday night when, apparently, the instrument was slipping into a trance state during one of the normal Sunday night meditations, and I would like to question you on this. Can you give me information about what happened?

Ra: I am Ra. We can.

68.5 Questioner: Would you tell me what happened in that case?

Ra: I am Ra. We have instructed this instrument to refrain from calling us unless it is within this set of circumscribed circumstances. In the event of which you speak this instrument was asked a question which pertained to what you have been calling the Ra Material. This instrument was providing the voice for our brothers and sisters of the wisdom density known to you as Latwii.

This instrument thought to itself, “I do not know this answer. I wish I were channeling Ra.” The ones of Latwii found themselves in the position of being approached by the Orion entity which seeks to be of service in its own way. The instrument began to prepare for Ra contact. Latwii knew that if this was completed the Orion entity would have an opportunity which Latwii wished to avoid.

It is fortunate for this instrument, firstly, that Latwii is of fifth-density and able to deal with that particular vibratory complex which the Orion entity was manifesting and, secondly, that there were those in the support group at that time which sent great amounts of support to the instrument in this crux. Thus what occurred was the ones of Latwii never let go of this instrument although this came perilously close to breaking the Way of Confusion. It continued to hold its connection with the mind/body/spirit complex of the instrument and to generate information through it even as the instrument began to slip out of its physical vehicle.

The act of continued communication caused the entity to be unable to grasp the instrument’s mind/body/spirit complex and after but a small measure of your space/time Latwii recovered the now completely amalgamated instrument and gave it continued communication to steady it during the transition back into integration.

68.6
Questioner: Could you tell me what the plan of the fifth-density negatively oriented entity was and how it would have accomplished it and what the results would have been if it had worked?

Ra: I am Ra. The plan, which is on-going, was to take the mind/body/spirit complex while it was separated from its yellow body physical complex shell, to then place this mind/body/spirit complex within the negative portions of your time/space. The shell would then become that of the unknowing, unconscious entity and could be, shall we say, worked upon to cause malfunction which would end in coma and then in what you call the death of the body. At this point the Higher Self of the instrument would have the choice of leaving the mind/body/spirit complex in negative sp—we correct—time/space or of allowing incarnation in space/time of equivalent vibration and polarity distortions. Thus this entity would become a negatively polarized entity without the advantage of native negative polarization. It would find a long path to the Creator under these circumstances although the path would inevitably end well.

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M: So as Earth goes into fourth density, or green, the actual mineral expression which is normally first density—is the spiritual entity of the planet, being mineral essentially, first density or fourth? Or do they co-exist?

I am Latwii. Not only do they co-exist, but you have first, second, and fourth; the third density, at some point in your future, will cease being active. However, in the long run you have each density occurring concurrently, so that the planetary sphere has first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh. This is the mature planetary system of bodies. One is not discarded when another is activated; each functions concurrently with the others.
This is a difficult subject, for the mind perhaps is attempting to rationalize whether the second-density tree at third density is the same second-density tree in fourth density. Yes, my brother, it is the same tree, but in the fourth density of vibration it will [have] slightly different characteristics and will be able to have a more conscious relationship with the fourth-density being, for instance, being able to communicate the simple second-density feelings to the fourth-density entity. It remains the same tree, but as each density observes it, it grows in its ability to be understood in its essence.
May we answer you further?

M: Just one quick one. Okay. The tree. The second-density spiritual still would be fourth-density physical after the transition. Is that correct?

I am Ra. For a time it will be second density, overlaid third density and fourth density. May we answer you further?

M: No, thank you.
We thank you. May we ask if there may be another question at this time?

R: When a planet is fourth density, it will no longer support third density forever, or just for a temporary period?

I am Ra … We correct this instrument. We are attempting to retrieve this instrument from a trance state. Please have patience.
I am Latwii. We have this instrument. This instrument was going into a trance state due to the subject matter. We are now with this instrument. We will continue talking complete nonsense through this instrument for a moment, if you will have patience, so that we can gain good control of this instrument.

L: Is there any way we can assist?

We are achieving good control. Thank you for your offer. I am Latwii. Sometimes, my friends, we are less than careful with our contact with this instrument.
Now, to the question that was asked. The third density may be likened to a kind of body; the fourth density, a denser type of body. In fourth density there is a type of experience which goes with this type of body. This experience is new to this body and the body, like that of any child, must mature and grow. If the fourth density were visible to third density, the processes of third density would be those with whom it would greatly interfere, for in third density there are choices to be made and lessons to be learned, and if fourth-density positive or negative were visible to third density, the entire process of choice would be abrogated.
Consequently, while the fourth density of planetary complex is young, third density remains unactivated. This is normally so only for a limited amount of time, until fourth-density entities become able, through the process of maturing and forming the social memory complex, of removing their density from the view of third density. When this is possible without strain, third-density experience may once again become available for those who are graduating, shall we say, from second density.
May we answer you further?

R: Do the non-harvested third-density individuals remain in a state of limbo, if you will, or are they allowed to recycle on another third-density planet while this one is not proper for them?

I am Latwii. As this instrument would say, “What mean we, white man?” There is no particular virtue, as far as we know, in the concept of limbo, for the entity does not stop experiencing. If any entity does not find itself in the graduating class and therefore finds itself ready to repeat third density, it will, in good time, as one might say, be taken to another sphere where third-density experience is beginning its cycle.
The use of limbo might profitably be discussed, if you will allow us a moment. This concept is profitable if you consider it to be a form of healing. This indeed occurs upon the cessation of your physical vehicle at the end of your brief experience here in this illusion. There are, at times, healings which must take place before the entity can review its lifetime, as you would call it, and therefore make some judgment as to what it might need to do with its next opportunity for experience. These hearings could be called a Limbo, for they are periods of rest, but indeed they are not only rest, but also a readying for further experience.
May we answer you further?

R: No, thank you.

We thank you, and may we thank this group for supporting this instrument. We were afraid that we had lost her to trance which would have been most inconvenient for all concerned.
Is there another question at this time?

C: Yes, what color are you all experiencing tonight?

We are experiencing the red-violet color. This is a combination, a hue which we are examining. It is the shell of your planetary sphere and we are at work at this time attempting to assess the strength and purity of this shell.
May we answer you further, my brother?

C: No, thank you.

Is there another question at this time?

L: Yes. At the conclusion of Ra sessions there are some procedures undertaken for the benefit of the instrument. Due to the brief Ra contact here, is any of it advisable?

I am Latwii. We would ask that the instrument’s name be mentioned before a light is turned on, however, it is our judgment that this instrument is with us, as you would say. We thank you for your concern, of course.
Is there another question?
(Pause)

I am Latwii. Please pardon us for yelling at you for the duration of this contact, but it was our method of retrieving this instrument to full consciousness and we have found it useful. Can we say to you that we greatly appreciate our turn at sharing some thoughts with you and feeling the sharing of love and light which each of you offers to the Creator. We join you in that happy state of unity with the Creator at this time. I leave you, my friends, in this love and this light. I am one of those known to you as Latwii. Adonai, my friends. Adonai vasu.

(05-11-2011, 08:43 AM)zenmaster Wrote: "You must realize that the one known as Ra has a density on us and therefore, has got straighter poop..."

What tha.

(05-12-2011, 02:41 AM)spero Wrote:

(05-11-2011, 08:43 AM)zenmaster Wrote: "You must realize that the one known as Ra has a density on us and therefore, has got straighter poop..."

What tha.

i'm starting to see why Ra preferred trance channeling lol

(05-12-2011, 07:07 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also have you ever wondered why there was only one, particular 'negative companion' (out of possible billions of 5th density negatives)? This suggests a particular attraction or match, does it not?

(05-13-2011, 08:46 AM)zenmaster Wrote: In the completely 'just' universe that we have, we attract that which our particular 'distortion' calls. The quality of one's 'light' tends to have distinguishable, or recognizable characteristics of purpose - it's not just 'strong light'.

(05-12-2011, 07:07 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also have you ever wondered why there was only one, particular 'negative companion' (out of possible billions of 5th density negatives)? This suggests a particular attraction or match, does it not?

(05-13-2011, 11:43 AM)kycahi Wrote:

(05-12-2011, 07:07 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also have you ever wondered why there was only one, particular 'negative companion' (out of possible billions of 5th density negatives)? This suggests a particular attraction or match, does it not?

Just a thought: the Confederation keeps a tight shield around Earth but does allow some STS encroachment to meet the need for free will. So maybe the Orion gang and the Confederation agreed on this one entity to do the dirty work.

(05-13-2011, 12:36 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: Or do you think there is a 'higher' version on the free will principle that is at play here that allowed the introduction of a negative entity?

(05-13-2011, 01:33 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The 4D Orion entities are quite ruthless and determined from my experience.

(05-13-2011, 02:45 PM)Icaro Wrote:

(05-13-2011, 01:33 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The 4D Orion entities are quite ruthless and determined from my experience.

Care to share?

(05-13-2011, 12:36 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: The Confederation allows negatives in to meet the need of free will because there needs to be a balance in the environment so that 3d entities can choose in the case of the contact group the choice was already made. Ra also wanted to contact to continue.

Or do you think there is a 'higher' version on the free will principle that is at play here that allowed the introduction of a negative entity?

(05-13-2011, 12:36 PM)Ens Entium Wrote:

(05-13-2011, 11:43 AM)kycahi Wrote:

(05-12-2011, 07:07 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Also have you ever wondered why there was only one, particular 'negative companion' (out of possible billions of 5th density negatives)? This suggests a particular attraction or match, does it not?

Just a thought: the Confederation keeps a tight shield around Earth but does allow some STS encroachment to meet the need for free will. So maybe the Orion gang and the Confederation agreed on this one entity to do the dirty work.

The Confederation allows negatives in to meet the need of free will because there needs to be a balance in the environment so that 3d entities can choose in the case of the contact group the choice was already made. Ra also wanted to contact to continue.

Or do you think there is a 'higher' version on the free will principle that is at play here that allowed the introduction of a negative entity?

zenmaster Wrote:Also have you ever wondered why there was only one, particular 'negative companion' (out of possible billions of 5th density negatives)? This suggests a particular attraction or match, does it not?

Quote:(Jim channeling)

I am Q’uo, and greet each once again in love and in light through this instrument. We would ask at this time if there might be any further queries remaining upon the minds of those present to which we might attempt response? Is there another query at this time?

Carla: OK. I have been receiving some interesting communications, and I have developed the theory that I am receiving a psychic greeting at this time from an entity which has to do with me and which I met during the course of the Ra contact. This is the fifth-density entity. Some information that I got recently suggests that this entity is working to dismantle the Law of One and has been doing so for a long, long time. My feeling is just to love this entity as myself and to let the chips fall where they may. If you would like to comment in any way about this situation I would greatly appreciate it.

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. As you are aware it is with great care that we attempt any response to such a query. However, we feel that it may be stated that your relationship with the entity of the fifth density negative polarity was, shall we say, begun at a time previous to this incarnation but became more specific and personal, shall we say, with the beginning of the contact with those of the Ra social memory complex. This was of necessity for this entity has as its primary purpose in regards to this third- density planet the increase of the harvest of those who share its polarity and the reduction of the harvest of the positive polarity. This entity has been engaged in this activity for a great portion of what you would call time in your third-density illusion. The mandate, shall we say, that such an entity gives itself is that there shall be control over those in this entity’s field of experience. It is the nature of the negative polarity to arrange itself in such a fashion so that there is a definite order in the movement of energies, thus allowing those controlling this ordered movement to benefit most in the harvest of energies and power. This entity has many areas in which it has invested its own energies in this manner and with these goals. It found the necessity of focusing upon your role in the contact with those of Ra, for it was with this contact that this entity felt the most opportunity for gaining power resided. That this entity would focus upon such a contact was logical from its point of view, but we would also suggest that this entity has busied itself with other endeavors as well.

We would speak briefly to the concept of dismantling the Law of One. This entity observes the Law of One with the attitude of using this law for its own gain. Thus it does not seek to dismantle this law as much as it seeks to bend it and form it in a manner which suits its purposes best. The Law is One. It is indestructible. However, there are means by which certain of its applications may be distorted by those who would seek to use it for their own gain. Is there a further query, my sister? Carla: No. Thank you.

(08-13-2011, 03:26 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: It seems that this entity may be reaching the negative/positive turning point as the explorations into the Law of One proceed.

(08-13-2011, 03:26 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: I've never considered this but it seems reasonable that the search for a level of power consonant with this ultimate law is the natural drive of a mature 5d negative, only to be the window into the positive polarity after a power peak.

16.39 Wrote:Questioner: At what point in the densities is it necessary for an entity to be consciously aware of the Law of One in order to progress?

Ra: I am Ra. The fifth density harvest is of those whose vibratory distortions consciously accept the honor/duty of the Law of One. This responsibility/ honor is the foundation of this vibration.

(08-13-2011, 11:01 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: @ zenmaster:

1.Why?: Two assumptions. First, 4th density- learning the law of love, 5uh density- learning the law of light. I assume that the strictly 5th density learnings have been accomplished and that He's moved on to learning the Law of One. Second, it seemed that He was reaching that point because of my assumption that, as one learns and increases one's understanding of the law, that it becomes increasingly difficult to see it through the lens of the negative polarity. Or.. in other words, my assumption is that it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain the contradiction and still not see it as such. Capacity for application being directly proportional to understanding.

(05-13-2011, 08:46 AM)zenmaster Wrote: The quality of one's 'light' tends to have distinguishable, or recognizable characteristics of purpose - it's not just 'strong light'.

(08-13-2011, 11:01 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: @Icaro: and further i'd say that all are 'patterned' for the positive simply because the negative works on an omission in the rays. Your speak of 'in other probabilities' makes me think of whether the higher self considers the turning to negative of the relatively unpolarized 3d entity with a reluctance similar to that of the release of the person into 5d negative time/space. The higher self coming one a person as the voice of conscience.

(08-14-2011, 03:21 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: Are you refering to the capital 'H'? Predictive text on cell phone, got really lazy. If not.. 'it' is refered to as a 'he' in the Ra material is he not? It's the same guy right? hehe..

There was no 'depiction' in the quote... in explaining my assumptions i thought you'd see how i 'built up' what i did from the quote. It was, admittedly, a stretch. Am i still not understanding what you trying to find out?

(08-14-2011, 03:21 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: What do you think, zenmaster?

a) Just graduated from 4th density.
b) Early 5d
c) Early to Mid 5d
d) Mid 5d
e) Mid to Late 5d

(08-14-2011, 03:45 AM)Confused Wrote:

(05-13-2011, 08:46 AM)zenmaster Wrote: The quality of one's 'light' tends to have distinguishable, or recognizable characteristics of purpose - it's not just 'strong light'.

Can you please explain this point better? You make very profound statements in short sentences, which causes me at times to miss their significance or implication!

(08-14-2011, 12:22 PM)Icaro Wrote: We don't know much about the mechanics and abilities available to a negative entity either.