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Moving Mountains - Gribbons - 01-31-2011
Purely hypothetical talk here, but I just had this thought, as I contemplate many spiritual ideas before I go to bed, and this one piqued my curiosity regarding Jesus' saying you can have powers as I do, and more, by way of the Holy Spirit. (With a mustard seed of faith, one can move mountains)
I combined this thought with an experience I had my first time experiencing the "magic" in mushrooms. I saw words, sentences, streaming endlessly through the sky. Fully legible and readable at the time, but while I remember thinking I should write this down or speak into a recorder, the thought immediately faded into, no, just live in it. I wanted to live in the moment as I was full of love and worth, but it made sense to me that I could see the Word all around me, like, everything that was WAS a thought, a word, a sentence. Now, I also linked that idea to this one concept I heard, it might have been mentioned by Ra, that old languages, primarily sanskrit and maybe hebrew, had their language vibrate to a frequency that was more in-tune with the "words" or the vibrations that everything is comprised of.
So thinking of that, my thought was, oh, that sounds like very high 5th chakra work, as that is communication, but I suppose 6th chakra work, indigo work, is comprised of love AND communication, and is also known for making direct contact with the creator and all it's creation. The love aspect of indigo work would also coincide with Jesus's said faith needed to move mountains, or anything, as I posit.
So what do you think? Let's say you were doing indigo work and you wanted to move an object with your mind, would you do it with focus and love or love with some sort of oral communication that resonates with the vibration of the object? Almost like, dare I say, a spell. Wingardium Leviosa! (to those who read harry potter
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RE: Moving Mountains - NegaNova - 01-31-2011
I guess it could depend on the individual's style. There are probably those who have learnt and trained themselves to do it with oral communication, and that might help amplify their focus and energy, and their intent, but there are probably others who do the same thing with just focus and love, without the wording necessary. That would be my take on it anyway.
I always wondered though, how could certain words or languages be more in tune with the vibration that everything is made of up of, isn't that vibration in everything, including all types of words, etc.? Unless it has to do with the meaning and feeling attached to the words... which would be different with everyone?
RE: Moving Mountains - spero - 01-31-2011
Hi Gribbons
All of session 3 is relevant to your question, particularly the whole moving mountains thing.
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=3&ss=1
With respect to the mechanism behind moving objects at a distance, the following quote seems most relevant
Quote:3.8 Questioner: How were the blocks moved?
Ra: I am Ra. You must picture the activity within all that is created. The energy is, though finite, quite large compared to the understanding/distortion of your peoples. This is an obvious point well known to your peoples, but little considered.
This energy is intelligent. It is hierarchical. Much as your mind/body/spirit complex dwells within an hierarchy of vehicles and retains, therefore, the shell, or shape, or field, and the intelligence of each ascendingly intelligent or balanced body, so does each atom of such a material as rock. When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical, rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock.
With this connection made, a request may be given. The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rockness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity.
In this way, that which is required is accomplished due to a cooperation of the infinite understanding of the Creator indwelling in the living rock. This is, of course, the mechanism by which many things are accomplished which are not subject to your present means of physical analysis of action at a distance.
RE: Moving Mountains - JoshC - 01-31-2011
I think that at a certain point your awareness (like Jesus's) becomes such that it's no longer a difficulty to do any of this. One would simply know it can be done like lifting a finger and would be able to do it at will.
I don't think that the spoken word has anything to do with it, though it probably wouldn't hinder you. Intent and mind power are more probably the mechanisms by which these tasks would be performed.
:idea:
RE: Moving Mountains - turtledude23 - 01-31-2011
Magic is based on belief and visualization; following rituals, reciting certain words, etc. helps people believe that they can perform magic, but it's not necessary. Whether words like "om" have any special significance in the universe I don't know, the most I could imagine would be that if for thousands of years millions of people chanted that word with the belief that it was magical then every person who chants it taps into that thought energy attached to the word.
RE: Moving Mountains - unity100 - 01-31-2011
magic, is based on energy, and its focusing. its not something that wasnt there before the belief systems and conditionings on this planet come to being.
actually entire existence of this entire octave, is the same magic. energy, and focus.
RE: Moving Mountains - Gribbons - 01-31-2011
Ra never went into depth with rituals, or at least, whatever Don and Carla were using (lesser pentagram?) was, I don't think, ever explained. I'm sure that's not exactly the same thing I'm looking for, but what goes into a ritual? Is it just a personal routine to excite the magical personality, per se? Like, breathing, lighting candles, incense and wearing special garments you reserve for such occasions?
RE: Moving Mountains - turtledude23 - 02-01-2011
(01-31-2011, 08:20 PM)unity100 Wrote: magic, is based on energy, and its focusing. its not something that wasnt there before the belief systems and conditionings on this planet come to being.
actually entire existence of this entire octave, is the same magic. energy, and focus.
When I say belief I mean belief in anything, not a belief system. You and I have said the same thing, I'm just specifying how a 3D entity focuses energy: by visualizing something happening, and believing that it actually is happening or will happen.
(01-31-2011, 09:23 PM)Gribbons Wrote: Ra never went into depth with rituals, or at least, whatever Don and Carla were using (lesser pentagram?) was, I don't think, ever explained. I'm sure that's not exactly the same thing I'm looking for, but what goes into a ritual? Is it just a personal routine to excite the magical personality, per se? Like, breathing, lighting candles, incense and wearing special garments you reserve for such occasions?
It's like how some people need a massage to be relaxed and others can just will themselves to be relaxed, or training wheels on a bike. Performing a ritual thats so weird that it must have some kind of significance, with a group of people, will bring out your magical personality, because you believe you're being magical.
RE: Moving Mountains - AnthroHeart - 11-28-2011
If I ended up being able to even move a tissue with mind powers, it would probably startle me.
I've experienced much more internal magical ability, rather than projecting outward.
RE: Moving Mountains - fr33d0m - 12-06-2011
Jesus had more faith than a mustard seed, and I didn't read about him moving any mountains, so I'm with Jesus on this one. I think he was speaking more metaphorically about the power of faith.
By the time I am able to move mountains with thought, I probably will have absolutely no interest, desire, or need to actually do it.
(...after becoming one with the universe, moving a pile of rocks didn't seem quite as interesting as it did before...)
To move people's hearts, now that I can aspire to.
RE: Moving Mountains - Namaste - 12-07-2011
(12-06-2011, 07:36 PM)fr33d0m Wrote: By the time I am able to move mountains with thought, I probably will have absolutely no interest, desire, or need to actually do it.
To move people's hearts, now that I can aspire to.
Spot on :¬)
RE: Moving Mountains - Oceania - 12-07-2011
i think he might have talked about moving mountains. they built the pyramids via sound waves and focus, according to teh Wilcock.
RE: Moving Mountains - Conifer16 - 12-07-2011
Ok all of this is fascinating
and I would suggest reading all 61.-Conifer16- Adonai Vasu Borragus
Oops forgot the link lol
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?search_string=Pyramids+&search_type=any&sc=1&start_row=0
Here is a more relevant quote,
Questioner: How were the blocks moved?
Ra: I am Ra. You must picture the activity within all that is created. The energy is, though finite, quite large compared to the understanding/distortion of your peoples. This is an obvious point well known to your peoples, but little considered.
This energy is intelligent. It is hierarchical. Much as your mind/body/spirit complex dwells within an hierarchy of vehicles and retains, therefore, the shell, or shape, or field, and the intelligence of each ascendingly intelligent or balanced body, so does each atom of such a material as rock. When one can speak to that intelligence, the finite energy of the physical, or chemical, rock/body is put into contact with that infinite power which is resident in the more well-tuned bodies, be they human or rock.
With this connection made, a request may be given. The intelligence of infinite rock-ness communicates to its physical vehicle and that splitting and moving which is desired is then carried out through the displacement of the energy field of rockness from finity to a dimension which we may conveniently call, simply, infinity.
In this way, that which is required is accomplished due to a cooperation of the infinite understanding of the Creator indwelling in the living rock. This is, of course, the mechanism by which many things are accomplished which are not subject to your present means of physical analysis of action at a distance.
Questioner: I am reminded of the statement—approximately—that if you had faith to move a mountain, the mountain would move. This seems to be approximately what you were saying. That if you are fully aware of the Law of One, you would be able to do these things. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The vibratory distortion of sound, faith, is perhaps one of the stumbling blocks between those of what we may call the infinite path and those of the finite proving/understanding.
You are precisely correct in your understanding of the congruency of faith and intelligent infinity; however, one is a spiritual term, the other more acceptable perhaps to the conceptual framework distortions of those who seek with measure and pen.
Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives the Law of One, then such things as the building of the pyramids by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand?
Ra: I am Ra. You are incorrect in that there is a distinction between the individual power through the Law of One and the combined, or societal memory complex mind/body/spirit understanding of the Law of One.
In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains. The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love, and which seeks the laws of light. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness.
We cannot say what is beyond this dissolution of the unified self with all that there is, for we still seek to become all that there is, and still are we Ra. Thus our paths go onward.
Questioner: Was the pyramid then built by the mutual action of many of your people?
Ra: I am Ra. The pyramids which we thought/built were constructed from thought-forms created by our social memory complex.
Questioner: Then the rock was created in place rather than moved from some place else? Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. We built with everlasting rock the Great Pyramid, as you call it. Other of the pyramids were built with stone moved from one place to another.
Questioner: What is everlasting rock?
Ra: I am Ra. If you can understand the concept of thought-forms you will realize that the thought-form is more regular in its distortion than the energy fields created by the materials in the rock which has been created through thought form from thought to finite energy and being-ness in your, shall we say, distorted reflection of the level of the thought-form.
May we answer you in any more helpful way?
Questioner: This is rather trivial, but I was wondering why the pyramid was built with many blocks rather than creating the whole thing as one form created at once?
Ra: I am Ra. There is a law which we believe to be one of the more significant primal distortions of the Law of One. That is the Law of Confusion. You have called this the Law of Free Will. We wished to make an healing machine, or time/space ratio complex which was as efficacious as possible. However, we did not desire to allow the mystery to be penetrated by the peoples in such a way that we became worshipped as builders of a miraculous pyramid. Thus it appears to be made, not thought.
Questioner: When we finished the last session, I had asked a question that was too long to answer. It had to do with the shape of the pyramid, its relationship to the initiation. Is this the appropriate time to ask this question?
Ra: I am Ra. Yes, this is an appropriate time/space to ask that question.
Fasinating isn't it?
http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?category=Pyramids&sc=1
RE: Moving Mountains - AnthroHeart - 12-07-2011
Yes fascinating. Always good to review.
RE: Moving Mountains - Observer - 12-07-2011
That was actually one of the first bits of the LOO that I read.
RE: Moving Mountains - Namaste - 12-07-2011
(12-07-2011, 04:24 PM)Observer Wrote: That was actually one of the first bits of the LOO that I read.
Same here :¬)
RE: Moving Mountains - Conifer16 - 12-07-2011
It was the first bit of TLOO that I read after coming to bring4th(I hadn't read it all before coming here)
And when I read that rock has consciousness and to move it you ask it to, I Imediatly thought "avatar the last airbender" "Earthbending"
RE: Moving Mountains - CarlS - 12-07-2011
What you need to do is get a bunch of people to chant "Light as a feather. Stiff as a board." as they lift a stone block. I'm sure the Sanskrit language chant has a much better/more powerful resonance frequency but it's more about getting everyone in tune to the same conceptual belief that a 7 ton boulder can be believed to be a 7 pound feather. This of course requires an open minded belief ability so you can know the fact that Mother Earth has some basic rules for us children and until we prove ourselves worthy of bending or breaking the rules then reality must remain as it was intended and the old saying "Strong as the weakest link in the chain" will constantly bring everyone back down to the same level of responsibility.
Rocks are corporations of people too. Be kind and rewind to a time when your DNA was a stone. It is one of the links in the DNA code that is considered junk by the scientist but thats because that ladder doesn't need a step because it communicates magnetically thru minerals and frequency wave lengths. Careful though when you start allowing the stones to guide you they can very easily get you lost because they can't come to you and they don't know where they are either.
RE: Moving Mountains - Conifer16 - 12-07-2011
Do you know what the Sanskrit chant is?
RE: Moving Mountains - CarlS - 12-07-2011
No I am a stupid American. Knowing things from ancient times is frowned upon. Think it's something like Meka leka hi meka hiney hoe to the sound track of Lady Gaga while doing the moon walk. Everything evolves and changes constantly. Doing the same thing every time invites negative thoughts of unoriginality.
edit.. As I hit post a commercial on my Pandora came on about Michael Jackson.....love synchronocity. Anyways I like to preach controlled chaos and my theory is that every theory is possible after you achieve the impossible. Tough mission to sign up for but I think we all checked that box in the user agreements without reading them prior to incarnation. "Carnation Instant Breakfast...you're gonna love it in an instant!" -takes 2 minutes to make.
RE: Moving Mountains - Oceania - 12-07-2011
lol i love light as a feather stiff as a board.
8 year old girls around a pyramid chanting.
in their bunny pajamas.
everyone: "light as a feather stiff as a board"
Meagan: "omgsh it's working."
Heather: "duh, we totally rock!"
Shanaynay: "i wanna go hoome :'( this is scary"
RE: Moving Mountains - AnthroHeart - 12-08-2011
Funny Carl,
Someone else mentioned controlled chaos to me today.