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Gods plan. (Political thread). - Phoenix - 06-25-2022
Sometimes things get to a place in my personal life where everything has gone badly wrong and there is nothing I can focus on in the physical world that can make me feel at all at peace. At the moment that's where I am. Of course there are inspiring texts, I can read the psalms, scour Quo readings and meditate if I have the energy. I can watch a series I like on a streaming service. But there is little out in the real world I can use as a source of optimism.
But, there is a Christian song known as 'Waymaker' that I think of. It basically says that even when you can't feel it god is working somewhere and of course that is true! There is a huge planet with a lot of positively polarised people who are doing the work of the positive forces, and there are positive entities and whatnot. Those energies are always doing something positive in this weird undercover spiritual war we are witnessing.
Today is a good example of that. I have never particularly cared about abortion but my understanding is that people that are basically positively polarised don't want it to happen so the fact it has been stopped today is probably good. The spirits will have an easier time placing incarnations and I think there is some sort of benefit the negative gets from abortions. Plus the political side that can only be described as malevolent is taken down a few pegs.
Also, Q posted again yesterday! That makes me feel good at least?
Are there any outward societal changes that people here find to be positive and interesting that they might draw positive feelings from?
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - IndigoSalvia - 06-25-2022
For me personally, it feels like a heavy time with the policy changes, and lack thereof, here in the US and my state.
Alas, it is all catalyst before me, and thus, I have an opportunity to explore what arises within me with loving curiosity. I ask myself:
- Can I be that lighthouse radiating love and light in all directions?
- Where is the love and understanding in this moment?
- Can I see self in other, and other in self?
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - unity100 - 06-25-2022
(06-25-2022, 08:29 AM)Phoenix Wrote: Sometimes things get to a place in my personal life where everything has gone badly wrong and there is nothing I can focus on in the physical world that can make me feel at all at peace. At the moment that's where I am. Of course there are inspiring texts, I can read the psalms, scour Quo readings and meditate if I have the energy. I can watch a series I like on a streaming service. But there is little out in the real world I can use as a source of optimism.
But, there is a Christian song known as 'Waymaker' that I think of. It basically says that even when you can't feel it god is working somewhere and of course that is true! There is a huge planet with a lot of positively polarised people who are doing the work of the positive forces, and there are positive entities and whatnot. Those energies are always doing something positive in this weird undercover spiritual war we are witnessing.
Today is a good example of that. I have never particularly cared about abortion but my understanding is that people that are basically positively polarised don't want it to happen so the fact it has been stopped today is probably good. The spirits will have an easier time placing incarnations and I think there is some sort of benefit the negative gets from abortions. Plus the political side that can only be described as malevolent is taken down a few pegs.
Also, Q posted again yesterday! That makes me feel good at least?
Are there any outward societal changes that people here find to be positive and interesting that they might draw positive feelings from?
There are a lot of good things happening in the world. The state that the West (especially the Angloamerican West) is in, is its own making. Many other parts of the world are doing pretty fine.
Forget about things like "god's plan". Look towards your future, your spiritual path, and your plan. For whatever reason, you incarnated into a specific society in the world that would have a lot of problems in this period. Only you can walk that path you decided to walk. So walk that path.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - tadeus - 06-25-2022
(06-25-2022, 08:29 AM)Phoenix Wrote: Also, Q posted again yesterday! That makes me feel good at least?
Are there any outward societal changes that people here find to be positive and interesting that they might draw positive feelings from?
It would be positive if more people would not wait for an savior like Q, Trump, Putin, a Confederation, whatever.
It is needed that more people awake, make the choice and get active involved with their free will.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - Sacred Fool - 06-25-2022
God's plan?
There's a LLR session somewhere in which it is stated that the general hope was that on this planet at our stage of developement we would all now be happily creating things to our heart's content, things which we would wish to share with the Creatrix/Creator. It's crazy to think of that and see with how dysfunctional we now are by comparison.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - Phoenix - 06-25-2022
(06-25-2022, 02:57 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote: God's plan?
There's a LLR session somewhere in which it is stated that the general hope was that on this planet at our stage of developement we would all now be happily creating things to our heart's content, things which we would wish to share with the Creatrix/Creator. It's crazy to think of that and see with how dysfunctional we now are by comparison.
It's interesting to consider how different our viewpoints would be in such a world. With all the vitamin deficiencies, various mental and physical poisons some of which we are not even aware of, effects of atheism, and many other things, our perspectives are a certain way. Once a lot of these problems are removed we will just look at the world differently.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - flofrog - 06-25-2022
I think that if all women had access to contraception, to health care, to child care, and rape and incest didn't exist, then there wouldn't be need for abortion. No one does it with a light heart, it's a harrowing decision, I had one, and it was indeed hard but my health was in danger and I had three little children to take care of. What do we say to the poorest women, who unlike me, , have no access to. contraception, no access to affordable child care, no access to help of any kind. I am heartbroken for these women, because I, I had access to all theses things
As Sacred Fool says, how dysfunctional have we become.
Here is a memo form a community group, named the Female Collective
I want to live in world where...
Humans have more right than guns
Children feel safe going o school
There's free healthcare for all
Mental heal care is a priority
Abortions are a human right
People are free to love and be who they are
We are 100 steps ahead on the climate crisis
All Black lives matter
we shall not stop fighting ( but with love ) everyday until that happens...
on edit : Sorry to be so "activist" minded today....
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - Phoenix - 06-25-2022
Maybe people don't like Q stuff but for me it's very exciting.
It seems that the only reason Q would post after a two year hiatus is if something was actually starting to go down and the November 1st 2017 post stating that 11.3 verifies as first marker. Roe vs Wade is 410 US 113. Perhaps like people often think with these things that is reaching but for me it may be about to end. All of this crap!
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - unity100 - 06-25-2022
(06-25-2022, 04:37 PM)Phoenix Wrote: It seems that the only reason Q would post after a two year hiatus is...
...because Donald Trump is going to run again and his campaign and the related faction is preparing to support him.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - tadeus - 06-29-2022
If you trust that someone else will save you, then you will definitely like this article from Benjamin Fulford:
Angela Hitler gathers lieutenants in Germany to mourn loss of Fourth Reich
Translated version into german
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - Phoenix - 06-29-2022
I like Benjamin Fulford. A few years ago I stopped all conspiracy. and Benjamin was one of those that had to go and I still do stay away from anything that is too bad. Like some of Benjamins content has been in the past. I checked out last weeks and this weeks but am not sure if I will continue reading Ben. I liked last weeks because it talked about economic things. This weeks: I suppose it's comforting if the deep states satellites are falling out of the sky. It gives a feel that it is all going down for the better behind the scenes. But some of what was said was less than relevant and so little of Bens predictions come true that can be frustrating.
Additional things I've heard from the law stuff is that there has been whisperings that other things more than abortion are potentially soon on the chopping block. One being Obergefell - Gay rights. And that the same justice refused to allow a football coach to be fired for praying and stopped New York from passing a bill stating that illegal immigrants could vote, also is in favour of gun rights. So basically it looks like the judicial system in America is now strongly right leaning!
Q did another post. 'Trust the plan' was mentioned in there.
I was feeling rather frustrated when walking home today. At the moment life is very samey. Every day is the same. I am too grieved to look at things positively or to positively imagine social events or anything like that. I looked around at all the people and thought of how their unbelievable conformity is what is keeping all this in place. There are certain crappy behaviours people have that are extraordinarily passive. That they will never admit to you. they just live these kind of lives of lies. But that they are receiving karma for and that they are always in victim mode making out they are hard done by. It's like someone that treats their friends subtly like crap by never doing anything the friend wants to do and always insisting on their own way. Then they don't have any friends and they passively claim all sorts of victim states. People are made to look after them by being their friend, feeling incorrectly, that the person does not have friend by happenstance.
This is of course not always the case there are some people I feel that are genuinely hard done by by bad life events. But when things do start to change, all the people around at the moment that conform all the time will go into a state of shock. But it was their decisions that created the problem just their passive and indirect ones.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - LeiwoUnion - 06-29-2022
It would be well to contemplate the meaning of the statement "there are no 'they', only us".
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - tadeus - 06-30-2022
(06-29-2022, 01:30 PM)Phoenix Wrote: At the moment life is very samey. Every day is the same. I am too grieved to look at things positively or to positively imagine social events or anything like that. I looked around at all the people and thought of how their unbelievable conformity is what is keeping all this in place. There are certain crappy behaviours people have that are extraordinarily passive. That they will never admit to you. they just live these kind of lives of lies.
This is of course not always the case there are some people I feel that are genuinely hard done by by bad life events. But when things do start to change, all the people around at the moment that conform all the time will go into a state of shock. But it was their decisions that created the problem just their passive and indirect ones.
The impression about the greater part of the people is shared.
Whatever will happen soon, the Great Reset can no longer be stopped, because this is not wanted by any side.
The resulting economic shock will hopefully make some people more think and wake up.
You can see it in Sri Lanka what maybe will happen ...
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - IndigoSalvia - 06-30-2022
(06-25-2022, 03:45 PM)flofrog Wrote: I think that if all women had access to contraception, to health care, to child care, and rape and incest didn't exist, then there wouldn't be need for abortion. No one does it with a light heart, it's a harrowing decision, I had one, and it was indeed hard but my health was in danger and I had three little children to take care of. What do we say to the poorest women, who unlike me, , have no access to. contraception, no access to affordable child care, no access to help of any kind. I am heartbroken for these women, because I, I had access to all theses things
As Sacred Fool says, how dysfunctional have we become.
Here is a memo form a community group, named the Female Collective
I want to live in world where...
Humans have more right than guns
Children feel safe going o school
There's free healthcare for all
Mental heal care is a priority
Abortions are a human right
People are free to love and be who they are
We are 100 steps ahead on the climate crisis
All Black lives matter
we shall not stop fighting ( but with love ) everyday until that happens...
on edit : Sorry to be so "activist" minded today....
My heart (in fact, my entire MBS) is heavier these days because of the societal state of affairs. I have wanted to throw my hands up and run away from all of this on more than a few occasions.
Flofrog, you are not alone. I too had an abortion at 17 yrs old due to rape. It was an agonizing situation for me, as a kid. I continue to balance the energies from that time of my life, as those energies arise within me. Today, as an adult, I see many sides of the debate.
This is just one example of social issues that weigh heavy on my heart. For me, many of them boil down to free will, or lack thereof.
Yet, my inner free will has no limitations at all ... my outer free will seems to.
How do I tap into this boundless free will, boundless love and acceptance regardless of the circumstances?
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - flofrog - 06-30-2022
Oh IndigoSalvia….
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - Sacred Fool - 07-01-2022
(06-30-2022, 11:58 AM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: How do I tap into this boundless free will, boundless love and acceptance regardless of the circumstances?
Exactly! This is question for us all.
As for an answer, this is the process of self-knowledge. It is a different process for all of us, yet the same. Within you is that which you seek. Please continue the search without delay. When you arrive at an intermediate destination, you will find many there to greet you.
As you proceed, your awareness of self will enrich and empower you. The Creatrix/Creator is right there to offer you what you need to move along your path. Brava! Godspeed. You encompass far more than you know. Seek and this shall be given to you.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - tadeus - 07-01-2022
(07-01-2022, 03:12 AM)Sacred Fool Wrote: Exactly! This is question for us all.
As for an answer, this is the process of self-knowledge. It is a different process for all of us, yet the same. Within you is that which you seek.
Please continue the search without delay.
Yes - but not for all of us.
It is not a problem of the method of search - the problem is that to less people are searching.
Only how searches will find knowledge, experience, solutions, a way ...
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - flofrog - 07-01-2022
One of the many ways is, how could I fit in the shoe as of that one whose feelings, ideas, actions, are such at the extreme area away from where I am. How could I fit in his shoes, sincerely , for perhaps like ten minutes.
It’s really hard not to find an ounce somewhere of alignment, love, compassion, whatever.
It brings a very expanded feeling, strangely.
Lol, I usually start to cry. But then I am a sap.
RE: Gods plan. (Political thread). - Phoenix - 07-02-2022
A point fairly early on in this thread was that someone up there objected to this stuff being called 'Gods Plan'.
Firstly, this is not a position for debate it is just a generally held opinion. Since it is unfalsifiable. To be a testable hypothesis something has to have a condition under which it is not true. If it does not have one then it is more in the realm of abstract which most of which can never be proven or disproven. It can only be approximated as to its correctness or otherwise.
But this is my thought experiment to explain why what should come forward now if we were to have an overthrow of the deep state is Gods plan. So where it starts is that in a lot of ways we live in a kind of cess pool where even though there are a lot of good things there are also a lot of truly disgustingly horrible things. The reason we have a lot of the truly disgusting horrible things is because of those that are 'negatively polarised' amongst our population on earth which we would term in modern parlance "The deep state".
So years ago, as they were getting on with all their stuff, this deepstate. There were people that prayed and wanted to be saved from this deep state. Remember, the way it technically works is that there are forces that have technology, resources and manpower that far exceed most of us. So those stating that we should not want to be "saved" are in my view misrepresenting the situation. The way the positive works is that they do their best to do positively polarised things but they do actually petition positive entities who then actually do a lot of the more "hands dirty" stuff, through other means. So, in a practical explanation of how things go down the positively polarised do not each engage in violence and such to sort out their situation when confronted by negative powers. They do actually rely on other positive entities to do this stuff for them.
So who are the positive entities who are doing the overthrowing of the deep state? Well, these are the clandestined military groups that were aware of the problem and have put together this giant plan in order to overthrow the negative entities. Since God uses the people that are aligned with him to do his work. Even though a lot of the time this is expressed through other entities such as angels and humans, the motive of the service to others comes from God.
There was a line in the Law of One that I have been thinking of lately. It said that the "harvest" does not just include the living but also includes the dead. We do not know much about what goes on in time/space but we do know that there are more rules than we might suspect, that cannot be gotten around, and we don't just go and float off and do whatever we want in time space there are limits. And there are even limits we might have in the kinds of incarnations we can take due to things that might exist within us that relate to time/ space. I am wondering if the reason the harvest includes the dead as well as the living is partly because, until we go through the harvest stuff at the end of the cycle and all the negativity is revealed. The karmic bonds we have with those in time/ space cannot be cleared enough for clarity to show itself? Thus the underlying motivations have to be revealed by this process before they can be "reviewed".
So as an example. Say I have a parent and there is a lot of hidden group problems with a paternity problem with say, a "brother" I have. A lot of things messed up and half understood and the father dies. Could it be until the brother understands that the problems were partly because he came from another man that was never revealed, that until this is revealed a part of the fathers energy in time/ space is also not freed up? This would make sense to me.
Also, obviously some of this blocked energy may be due to say, a bad situation at work that comes from upper management and goes further into something that relates to an entity above the management that is non positive. It might be a long time before this energy is released and understood better. If the father died in the sixties and took a different incarnation then perhaps the individual would have to relate in some way to that energy?
So, in global game terms not much seems to be happening. I think a lot of this stuff is now pretty mainstream. But of what I have heard:
-) Petrol prices are going up something Chronic. Germany is saying they may have all their petrol cut off. A German energy giant has collapsed.
-) The Supreme Court in America has passed something to do with voting that Hillary Clinton objected to, and something to do with opposing Bidens Green policies.
I never thought when I was reading about this years ago that the mass arrest scenario would get so close to the bone. I thought this was interesting. One thousand athletes that have dropped dead from the COVID jab, average age 23: https://tv.gab.com/channel/dionichi/view/watch-1000-athletes-collapsing-62bf8417335b191f7d38e12f All properly sourced and such.