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6th density are Logoi? - Unissie - 01-12-2022
I was not able to find in my search if this has been discussed before. I am not yet finished reading the Ra Materials, and I came across something in session 77 that intrigued me. This is a Ra quote from part of the 24th question of the session.
Quote:Let us observe your second density. Many come more rapidly to third density than others not because of an innate efficiency of catalysis but because of unusual opportunities for investment. In just such a way those of fourth density may invest third, those of fifth density may invest fourth. When fifth density has been obtained the process takes upon itself a momentum based upon the characteristics of wisdom when applied to circumstance. The Logos Itself, then, in these instances provides investment opportunities, if you wish to use that term.
I had already loved the idea that by having pets, we help souls jump in their evolution. I had already been wondering if 4d souls sometimes take us as pets and help us in our evolution also.
I am the gal who's husband has a 4d being sharing his body. Rather, as Uni says, he resides in my husband's "deep place". The "deep place" is something we all have. Uni occasionally bubbles up and out to "peek" out at what is happening in our 3d realm or comes out fully, all the way, to inhabit my husband's physical body. On these occasions, he comes out enough that he not only sees through those eyes, but also feels with my husband's skin, and talks with my husband's voice. Uni has at times described my husband as being a "little brother" and long ago identified me as being "like him". (We met at the age of 14 in 1988.) Supposedly I also have a 4d inner companion, but she is more locked in and integrated with my earthly experience. When Uni talks to me, he talks directly to that 4d part of me that he calls "Unissie" Uni says I have forgotten who I am, forgotten how to do magic, and he is helping me.
Anyway, the above quote from Ra suggests that 5d beings are invested in directly by their Logos. This made me wonder, are the Logoi basically sixth density? I get frustrated that Don did not think to ask the questions I wished he had asked. I read in an earlier passage that the Logoi do not evolve through the densities, but are sentinels in their co-creator roles to govern the evolution of souls. I have also read that sixth density beings give off light like stars, reproduce through, fusion, and reproduce in stars. So, is our sun essentially a sixth density being?
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - IndigoSalvia - 01-12-2022
L/L still channels higher density Confederation beings, but not solely wirh Ra. If you've seen references to Q'uo here on this forum, that is the SMC being channeled. Q'uo is a collective ("principle") of 4D, 5D, and 6D SMC (Hatonn, Latwii and Ra).
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2021/1
I wonder if there is a way to submit a question.
Note: The quote above is in a font too tiny to read. This happens to me when I cut/paste here. Highlight the selection and remove all fonts: it's the italicized letter A icon with a red circle on it.
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - Unissie - 01-12-2022
Thank you, I will try to make it more legible.
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - MonadicSpectrum - 01-12-2022
This is a great question. Personally, I view the Logos as permeating all densities in a single octave as they are not a part of time/space while densities are attached to time/space. Each octave has its own Logos. The One Infinite Creator (Father) spans all Logos (Sons).
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. As you have noted, the creation of which your Logos is a part is a protean entity which grows and learns upon a macrocosmic scale. The Logos is not a part of time. All that is learned from experience in an octave is, therefore, the harvest of that Logos and is further the nature of that Logos.
The original Logos’s experience was, viewed in space/time, small; Its experience now, more. Therefore we say, as we now speak to you at this space/time, the nature of creation is as we have described. This does not deny the process by which this nature has been achieved but merely ratifies the product.
https://www.lawofone.info/s/78#22
It might be beneficial to understand the origin of the word "Logos" and see why Ra chose it to describe the harvest and nature of an octave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos_(Christianity)
Quote:In the beginning was the [Logos], and the [Logos] was with God, and the [Logos] was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
John 1:1-3
Note: Regarding the small text issue, you can also paste without formatting by pressing "Control + Shift + V" at the same time on Windows, Linux, and Chrome OS or "Command + Shift + V" on Mac which is a little faster than pasting and removing the formatting.
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - Unissie - 01-12-2022
I understand that because of the timeless nature of the stars (sub-Logos) and the role they play, that they are not equivalent to beings like Ra who came up similar channels as we ourselves. I had been noticing curious similarities, as stated in my original post, that Ra radiates light, reproduces via fusion, and supposedly does so in stars, and then this most recent clue I read about the idea of higher densities investing in individuals directly below them in density helping them leap forward in evolution, and how the pattern does not continue with 6d investing in 5d, but the Logos investing. Had I been in Don's shoes I would have pursued a line of questioning about this curious connection and kinship I see in pattern between stars and 6d.
Of course, I also would have pursued a line of questioning about how our higher selves are 6d beings and where Ra fits into that. Are they currently serving as higher selves to their past 3d selves? Or are they not yet to that point in their evolution? So many great questions that did not get asked!!
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - Unissie - 01-12-2022
That is a cool thought.
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - MonadicSpectrum - 01-13-2022
I came up with what I think might be a helpful analogy for understanding how I view the concept of Logos.
Let's look at the identity of someone named Jane. She lived to be 100 years before passing away. Who is/was Jane? Jane is the representation of an organism that lived for 100 years in very specific circumstances making very specific decisions. But who Jane was changed from when she a baby (1st density) to a child (2nd density) to a teenager (3rd density) to a young adult (4th density) to middle aged (5th density) to retirement (6th density) to transitioning from the body (7th density). Jane isn't just a baby, child, teenager, young adult, middle aged, retired, or transitioning but rather the whole that is formed across all the densities. Jane will always exist as the memories, experience, and knowledge that was gained during that lifetime but simultaneously once the lifetime is over, the experiencer of Jane goes on to experience other identities and octaves of experience. Also, as the experiencer of Jane moves towards higher densities, one comes closer and closer to being Jane in completeness where a retired Jane is almost exactly the same as the whole of Jane as most of the experiences and knowledge that Jane will gather during the life has already been gathered.
The Logos is like Jane just at a much larger scale of time and space. The One Infinite Creator experiences all the Logos, but each Logos is uniquely identifiable as well as a very specific set of experiences across an octave.
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - flofrog - 01-13-2022
I really like it Nomadic.
If you have read Michael Newton’s books, where time/space is being discussed through testimonies of patients recollecting what happens there, through sessions of hypnotism, there’s a similar feeling of how appears a density relating to another.
RE: 6th density are Logoi? - Unissie - 01-14-2022
I was reading some other threads here, and a rather interesting but shortlived participant here suggested that the stars (sub-Logoi) could be considered a 9th density incarnation. When there was pushback, saying hey, there are only seven densities, this newcomer stated that the ninth density is what you become after you have evolved through an entire octave and are into the next octave's creation, and that in the octave after that, one may incarnate as a Logos (galaxy).
I will be mulling that idea over as I continue to read the Ra Materials....
Edit: pardon me, I think the suggestion by this forum member was that one might reincarnate first as a *planet* not as a star... The next octave would be as a star and so on....