Quote:3.10 Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives the Law of One, then such things as the building of the pyramids by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand?

Ra: I am Ra. You are incorrect in that there is a distinction between the individual power through the Law of One and the combined, or societal memory complex mind/body/spirit understanding of the Law of One.

In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains. The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love, and which seeks the laws of light. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness.

We cannot say what is beyond this dissolution of the unified self with all that there is, for we still seek to become all that there is, and still are we Ra. Thus our paths go onward.

(12-14-2010, 09:45 PM)unity100 Wrote: those would probably be synonymous with the meaning the different rays hold.

ie, red, movement, change.

orange, movement and change in a conscious fashion - self evolvement and progress, needs and furtherance of self

yellow - 'there are others than me !!!' and learning to work with other entities in an organized fashion

green - love - acceptance of other entities as they are, accepting things as they are,

blue - expression, communication, knowledge

indigo - unity, co creation, coexisting, vision

violet - balance, completion

white - curious actually - dont have much details on this. peace, serenity, grace, joy -> a lot of qualities are attributed to this.

(12-14-2010, 10:00 PM)unity100 Wrote: of course.

each density is told to be created to emphasize a certain aspect of existence.

laws and rules governing those densities, would follow these. lets see :

it is mandatory to be a part of, and graduate as a society complex in 4d and 6d.

coincidentally, 4d is the density of green ray, love, where entities accept everything as it is, and others, as they are. you need to be with other entities to be able to accept them.

6d is the density where wisdom and love is again blended by love. see, there is again love in the mix, and therefore the need to balance and adjust the activity of the entity towards other beings.

5d is the density of expression, knowledge, learning. blue is a ray that is free, information wants to be free, and they want to flow without being hampered.

coincidentally, 5d is the density that is dubbed as 'quite free'. in addition, there is no mandatory situation to be a part of a society complex for existing in 5d, or its graduation.

stuff like this.

(12-14-2010, 09:27 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: Hi everyone!

In looking at the quote below, a question came to me, shouting for an answer...

Quote:3.10 Questioner: Then if an individual is totally informed with respect to the Law of One and lives the Law of One, then such things as the building of the pyramids by direct mental effort would be commonplace. Is that what I am to understand?

Ra: I am Ra. You are incorrect in that there is a distinction between the individual power through the Law of One and the combined, or societal memory complex mind/body/spirit understanding of the Law of One.

In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains. The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love, and which seeks the laws of light. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness.

We cannot say what is beyond this dissolution of the unified self with all that there is, for we still seek to become all that there is, and still are we Ra. Thus our paths go onward.

We know that the 6th density is the density of the Law of One, and Ra has told us what the LOO is (what it states.)

Now the obvious question, and i assume the one most important for our last few years in 3rd density and on into 4th density, is, what is the Law of Love??! I also have the sense that knowing this might help greatly in our evolution. And for that matter, what is the Law of Light? The Law of Foreverness?

I understand that Ra came to communicate the Law of One, but aren't those also important?

Can anyone speculate on what these might be? Or.. can anyone refer me to other llresearch channelings outside the LOO that speak about this?

Thank you.
Regards

(12-14-2010, 10:09 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: Thanks for the response , i'll look at this further.

But...

What about 4th density STS, the Law of Love would have to state/be the same thing for them wouldn't it?

(12-14-2010, 11:01 PM)unity100 Wrote:

(12-14-2010, 10:09 PM)Ens Entium Wrote: Thanks for the response , i'll look at this further.

But...

What about 4th density STS, the Law of Love would have to state/be the same thing for them wouldn't it?

the 'path of the none', is rather an abomination that isnt. it goes about clogging the lower 3 energy centers, than truly reversing the flow of energy. so, i personally think that path's situation doesnt have much validity in regard to natural laws in the long run.

but, one can easily say that the stuff regarding other-selves apply inversely to them.

(12-15-2010, 12:06 AM)unity100 Wrote: One would think so. However, the negative path ends at early 6th density, as Ra tells us.

And no, it is not a true inward moving energy flow - one could at most say that it is stopping of the outward flow, and therefore, due to the resulting potential difference in between entities who clogged their outward flow, and who did not, a flow from outside towards the entities clogging their lower 3 chakras occurs.

for it to have been a true inward energy flow, the entities on that path should have gone more than clogging their lower 3 centers -> their lower 3 centers should have an inward moving energy flow.

there isnt. the first chakra to be able to have both inward and outward energy flow, is 5th, as Ra tells us.

so basically, sts entities are clogging their lower 3, causing a cloggage of the 4th, and therefore causing inward flows in the upper energy centers. but, their lower 3 centers, do not sport inward flows.

(12-15-2010, 01:05 AM)unity100 Wrote: there are no 'inward and upward' vibrations. there are inflowing and upflowing energy flows from the bottom chakras of entities and top chakras of entities.

energy centers that can have an inward energy flow, and outward energy flow are used in different context in Ra material, like the first two-way flow capable chakra being 5th.

(12-15-2010, 02:09 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: You use the terms inflow and upflow.
That is the same as vibration. It is an inflow of vibrations. The vibrations being Light/Love and Love/Light.

(12-15-2010, 02:14 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(12-15-2010, 02:09 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: You use the terms inflow and upflow.
That is the same as vibration. It is an inflow of vibrations. The vibrations being Light/Love and Love/Light.

in flowing and out pouring/flowing energies are not same as vibration in Ra material.

if you are referring to the Ra material, please provide a link to the q/as that equate vibrations with inpouring/up or outpouring energies.

if these are your logic and reasoning, you can provide the logic behind it so we can alayze it.

(12-15-2010, 03:13 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: The first thing that come to mind, is Ra's description of light as a "Straight Line Spiral". The spiral means vibration, "oscillation".

Quote: It is a known fact to physicist that all atoms of matter are made of smaller parts that have spin and momentum. The spin represents the oscillations "vibrations", of the particle.
Inward or upward flow is necessarily made of vibrations.

(12-15-2010, 03:34 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(12-15-2010, 03:13 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: The first thing that come to mind, is Ra's description of light as a "Straight Line Spiral". The spiral means vibration, "oscillation".

spiral doesnt mean vibration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral

there is nothing regarding vibration, in any definitions and concepts relevant to a spiral.

Quote: It is a known fact to physicist that all atoms of matter are made of smaller parts that have spin and momentum. The spin represents the oscillations "vibrations", of the particle.
Inward or upward flow is necessarily made of vibrations.

vibration of an atom, is not a spiral movement.

moreover, vibration of an atom core, or a photon, has no relevance with the downpouring or upward spiraling energies :

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=4&sc=1&ss=1#18

http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=4&sc=1&ss=1#18

at no point word vibration is used for downpouring or upward spiraling energies.

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i understand that, you are not referring to Ra material when making these conclusions.

(12-15-2010, 03:45 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: It is my turn to leave this discussion.

If everything in the universe has vibrations and spin as its base. There is nothing else for me to add.
Is there any energy that is not made of Light/Love? That's photons of light. If light has oscillations "vibrations", how can any energy not have the same.

(12-15-2010, 10:52 PM)unity100 Wrote: Law of One says 'everything is one' though.

Quote:The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love, and which seeks the laws of light. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness

(12-15-2010, 10:56 PM)Ens Entium Wrote:

(12-15-2010, 10:52 PM)unity100 Wrote: Law of One says 'everything is one' though.

I understand that, i dont object to it.

What are you refering to..?

(12-15-2010, 11:17 PM)unity100 Wrote: i think that there is a tendency in some people who are engaged in spiritualism to transplant their own self (as they manifest here in this space/time continuum) to entire infinity themselves. i see this as being perpetuated by the channeling or 'lectures', or philosophies of various people in spiritual literature.

and when inquired about the evident existence of other-selves than themselves, they argue that what is out there is not 'real', its an illusion.

the catch is, if the multiple existences are an illusion, then their self, that they transplant into the place of infinity, is also an illusion, unreal. because, the very existence of their own selves that is manifesting as they are in this space/time continuum (or any point in continuum except the point of infinity), is existing because it is a differentiation of infinite intelligence from its self, existing as that differentiation they are.

they are saying that these differentiations are not real, but, instead of saying that they are themselves also an illusion, they directly proceed to placing their own differentiated existence, into the place of infinite intelligence as a whole.

the very concepts of 'existing', or, 'i exist', or 'i', or 'me', are things that that are only possible with the discovery and existence of the concept of finity - ie infinite intelligence differentiating and individualizing from its self.

thus, there ends up a situation in which the individualized, differentiated entity is trying to transplant and claim its self in place of, and as the entire infinite intelligence, and at times, even infinity.

i think this is a situation which can easily be exploited to exaggerate misperceptions of other-selves, skew the understanding of the entity on the basis of me-others, and give more value and emphasis to its own existence than others, leading to imbalance in the long run.

the finite, cannot encompass and express infinite. i think that is another reason why the negative path, attempting to put the finite self over everything else, has to return to the positive path in early 6th d.

because the entity that misperceives the oneness, unity like the above basically says 'i, myself, am everything, rest is an illusion', instead of 'i, myself am also an illusion like everything else, and we are all actually one'.

(12-15-2010, 04:38 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(12-15-2010, 03:45 AM)Nabil Naser Wrote: It is my turn to leave this discussion.

If everything in the universe has vibrations and spin as its base. There is nothing else for me to add.
Is there any energy that is not made of Light/Love? That's photons of light. If light has oscillations "vibrations", how can any energy not have the same.

you cant generalize THAT much.

everything, has the concept of the 'finite' at their bottom. but that doesnt make EVERYthing that finite itself. infinite finites arranged in different fashions create different formations and interactions.

you cannot reduce all of these greater scale constructs to the base concept just like that. if one goes that way, there is nothing to analyze, no mechanic to understand, nothing to talk about :

'oh, chakra ? it is a finite'
'energy ? finites again'
'logos ? finite'
'water ? finites'

names and terms are given to complex constructs and interactions to differentiate one from the other, so that they can be understood. one cant go just dubbing everything as the base principle.

(12-16-2010, 01:20 AM)litllady Wrote: HI Unity

I agree with so much of what you said...

But isnt energy...infinite?