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metaverse and matrix - the - 12-11-2021
I think everyone should be aware of the agenda of metaverse, and know it's not good for our spiritual development.
it's at the very early stage now, but it will develop fast as soon as the C19 vaccine thing fade off.
maybe soon we can say another big spiritual development catalyst , the metaverse showed up :-)
some related videos:
1. WHAT IS THE METAVERSE? : A VIDEO ALL ADULTS & PARENTS MUST WATCH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e99xIi5Jpc
2. Marina Jacobi - Metaverse vs Hyperspace Hologram - S4 E50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6S9WzPl1Zs
RE: metaverse and matrix - tadeus - 12-16-2021
(12-11-2021, 11:10 PM)the Wrote: I think everyone should be aware of the agenda of metaverse, and know it's not good for our spiritual development.
it's at the very early stage now, but it will develop fast as soon as the C19 vaccine thing fade off.
I would say the metaverse shall be part of the world that follows the peak of the pandemic.
The pandemic itself is planned to never end and will be the reasoning for the separation / isolation with a virtualization named 'metaverse'.
Maybe take 'metaverse' as the name of the New World Order that will follow.
RE: metaverse and matrix - Patrick - 12-16-2021
Remember, it is our interpretation of catalysts that makes it "good" or "bad" for humanity. Personally, I intend to use the Metaverse with "good" intent just as I use the Internet with "good" intent. After all, the Metaverse is just lining up to be the Internet v2.
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2018/1006 Q`uo Wrote:Question
It seems that there is a technology that is being developed and has been developed, that sort of represents the transition and the connection that fourth density and the social memory complex will have. 1 Are these things a result of the fact that we are in fourth density and we are sort of trying to achieve that connection, but are using the technology as an excuse to get there, instead of our spiritual evolution?
Q’uo
I am Q’uo and am aware of your query. We shall attempt to answer this query, for it is an interesting query.
The technology that is available for the supposed movement of consciousness forward in its evolutionary pattern is much like unto the artist who draws a painting or picture that expresses the highest ideals known to the artist. The picture may be that which describes the advancing consciousness in many and varied ways as that which is more able to grasp the nature of creation, the quality of the Creator that inhabits each portion of the creation, and the place that the self finds that it is moving towards within this process of evolution.
Technology can take the mind and the emotions a certain distance within the process of moving into the fourth-density illusion by describing various qualities that may be enhanced within the individual’s mind/body/spirit complex. Practice upon these techniques of realizing these qualities of opening the heart, of expanding the point of view, of sharing service and love, of seeing the self as one with all other selves, and as seeing the self as one with the Creator, for these are helpful frames of reference that may be utilized to an increasingly efficient degree by those who have the capability of mental visualization and practice of these procedures.
However, there is a certain, shall we say, limit to the effectiveness of such technology, for technology itself relies upon a limited point of view in order to be constructed and programmed to work towards the expansion of that which is limitless, that is, the spirit and the mind of the seeker of truth. Therefore, in some ways, such a technology may be illuminating for a time, or for a certain amount of progress, but after this amount of growth has occurred, may not be able to complete the process for the seeker of truth utilizing the technology. At that point, the seeker must rely upon his own inner reserves of inspiration and information of both the mental and the spiritual qualities that it seeks within the fourth-density experience.
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2021/0512 Q`uo Wrote:Q’uo
I am Q'uo and am aware of the query, my brother. In considering the technologies described as social media and the internet, we encourage any contemplative seeker to consider the unfolding of such technology and how your culture and society has developed from one technology to the next. Looking upon the world of the first density, you might see a very simplified understanding of how the seemingly space/time world may interact in simple ways of being moved and moving. As this unfolds into the second density, there are more complicated and intelligent ways in which the space/time manifestation of the Creator interacts. And in this density, we begin to see that the space/time realm contains not just apparently physical properties, but manifestations of thought patterns, such as the behavior of second-density life and how the animal kingdom interacts and behaves, or the plant kingdom interacts or behaves.
As this progresses into the third density, the manifestation of conceptual or abstract manifestations becomes more and more complicated and more and more difficult for the observer to identify and influence. We see this particularly among your society as you have gradually built up an incredibly complex system of social interactions, based upon various aspects such as the legal realm, the cultural realms of entertainment or politics and other sorts of obscure manifestations available to entities within the space/time.
We elaborate on this in order to encourage any seeker contemplating the nature of such manifestations, to see the space/time realm not just as the physical world around you, and what you call matter built up in various ways, but that there are other aspects of space/time that are unseen. Both these physical and non-physical aspects of space/time have correlations within time/space. As the fourth density has dawned upon your planet, and made itself available to you in the time/space realm, your space/time experience has, shall we say, struggled to catch up to this new era of energy. The manifestation of the internet and social media is a result of the beckoning of fourth density and the necessity of the entities within your space/time realm to view your experience in a holistic fashion.
Thus, the advent of the internet in connecting peoples all across your planet also reveals how this connection is made in time/space as well.
We pause to allow this instrument to regain focus.
I'm Q'uo and am again with this instrument who is feeling reticence at its ability to capture our thoughts in an intelligible way, and asks us to head towards a concluding thought. And so we offer, with some hesitation, a simple encouragement to entities engaging with the qualities of social media and the internet to do so with introspection on how these tools made available to you offer glimpses of the strong undercurrents of your social complexes and your collective minds that previously were relatively unseen, and were made manifest in your space/time. The advent of these technologies is indeed a vast potential and in many ways was intelligently and intentionally offered to your social complex so that you may more directly address the imbalances and distortions necessary to address, so that you may form a social memory complex of unified intention and join your planet in graduating into the fourth density.
RE: metaverse and matrix - IndigoSalvia - 12-16-2021
Thank you, Patrick, for sharing these two quotes. They are thought-provoking in terms of how we interface with technology. As with any human-made institituion, I agree, it's how we interact with them. Could be a mixed bag, a mirror or reflection of each of us who interact within it.
Aren't some video games sort of metaverses, albeit with a structure (like objectives)? (Disclaimer: I'm not a gamer, but am the mother to a gamer so have little to no direct experience other than hovering over the shoulder of a gamer.)
RE: metaverse and matrix - Patrick - 12-16-2021
Video games have been gravitating towards becoming a kind of virtual reality. This next phase of the Internet, that is called the Metaverse, is shaping up to mimic that trend.
RE: metaverse and matrix - the - 12-17-2021
one day, when i am talking about movie 'matrix' with other people that believe we live in the matrix. i asked them: do you know how the first matrix was created? they say no. i told them, look at the metaverse, this is the baby step of creating the matrix.
RE: metaverse and matrix - Quincunx - 12-17-2021
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RE: metaverse and matrix - Diana - 12-17-2021
It's a matter of balance and a larger view of existence. To immerse one's self in, or consume, something to the point of harm is addiction.
I have a VR headset. I love exercising with it (beat saber). But I also go outside, commune with wildlife, and do something I think is meaningful for work. You can have technology and a natural life. But it is also important to be cognizant of how much technology is using subliminal and other brain-affecting devices to impart control. If I all of a sudden want to vote for a mainstream candidate or do any number of things out of character, I will wonder about that headset.
How free we are at this point in time is another conversation.
Some people likely will just buy into the "metaverse." There are still many out there ready to be lead for whatever reasons. When this is no longer the case, the STS elite factions of this world will have nothing to control.
RE: metaverse and matrix - IndigoSalvia - 12-17-2021
(12-17-2021, 06:10 PM)Quincunx Wrote: I deleted all my social media. I got rid of all the digital games on my cellphone.
Quit the fake digital world and come back to reality.
It does take self-awareness, discipline, etc. to monitor how we engage with technology. Well, we're glad you are here in our little corner of the internet. I lose interest in most social media stuff, but here in this forum, it's soulful.
RE: metaverse and matrix - the - 12-17-2021
(12-16-2021, 06:59 AM)tadeus Wrote:(12-11-2021, 11:10 PM)the Wrote: I think everyone should be aware of the agenda of metaverse, and know it's not good for our spiritual development.
it's at the very early stage now, but it will develop fast as soon as the C19 vaccine thing fade off.
I would say the metaverse shall be part of the world that follows the peak of the pandemic.
The pandemic itself is planned to never end and will be the reasoning for the separation / isolation with a virtualization named 'metaverse'.
Maybe take 'metaverse' as the name of the New World Order that will follow.
I think this is one possibility how the 'controller/deep state' play the game to put people's 'spiritual/source/life' energy to the matrix. to me, this is already very smart. but their strategy must be much smarter than this one. just look at the vaccine mind control thing, it's very well designed, if they don't rush too much this time, very few people can wake up and survive.
but i know in the end, they will still fail, there're still a lot of people wake up and destroy the matrix, otherwise we won't be here :-)
this might be one of 'controller/deep state''s plan:
1. the C19 vaccine is not to kill people, but to control people, also let people lost health, lost physical energy and spend more time indoors, e.g. get blood clog and other heart disease, so they can't run or do too much physical activities.
i know some people got those heart disease, they are still alive, but they can't run fast, etc.
2. for those vaccine-injured people, government provide some funding, so they are not starving, but not as free as normal people to travel etc. e.g. they can buy food, but can't enjoy those outdoor adventures for financial and health reasons
3. government or so called 'enterprise' will provide free or low-cost game, those injured people can play game inside their home, and general public can also play.
4. release some technology, e.g. brain-computer interface, so people can play game without any equipment (as above video mentioned), but within those technology, put people's life/spiritual energy to the matrix game. I still don't know how that works, but it's very likely some kinds of very advanced nano technology
5. ask those vaccine-injured people to invite more friends/family member to play the game (which is actually the matrix), and get more people's life-energy. eventually suck-up all those people's life energy to the matrix
RE: metaverse and matrix - IndigoSalvia - 12-18-2021
I don't want to seem naive, but couldn't the metaverse also be a space for STO presence. I recall that sometimes Ra/Quo speak of STS plans to control, and those plans are later subverted by unanticipated outpouring of STO/love. What was intended for control ends up being a vehicle for more STO love. I can't remember off the top of my head the specifics.
Am I missing something that's inherently, or rather, solely STS about metaverse technology? Or does it have the potential for both STO & STS?
RE: metaverse and matrix - tadeus - 12-18-2021
(12-17-2021, 09:00 PM)the Wrote: 1. the C19 vaccine is not to kill people, but to control people, also let people lost health, lost physical energy and spend more time indoors, e.g. get blood clog and other heart disease, so they can't run or do too much physical activities.
i know some people got those heart disease, they are still alive, but they can't run fast, etc.
Just have a look at the statistics (specially the change in the table view).
It's simply the beginning of the aims proclaimed by the Guide Stones.
The metaverse is to separate and control the people.
The only reason for the vaccine is to control the population.
It's hard to accept but sadly true.
For 'compensation' maybe this video will help:
RE: metaverse and matrix - Patrick - 12-18-2021
The first company that will provide a simple screen, keyboard and mouse interface to the Metaverse will win the race. If VR equipment is a requirement, these will fail. No need for VR, it can just be used the same way we play any FPS games.
RE: metaverse and matrix - IndigoSalvia - 12-18-2021
I studied Shambhala Buddhism for a few years, but had never heard of this prophecy in anything I read.
I had mixed sensations watching the video: the first part made me uncomfortable (all the STS imagery/dialogue). It not only reminded me of our 3D world currently, but also the possibility of laying the groundwork for the early 4D thought war.
I was curious when I heard her say: since it was made of the human mind, it can be undone by the human mind. This sentiment does not resonate insofar as it relies solely on our 3D (veiled) beingness. I don't think that any human or group of humans, relying solely on human resources, can undo such things. Channeling the universal L&L, to me, is a different thing. Alas, she does turn the dialogue toward two 'implements': compassion and radical insight into interconnectedness ... very similar to what I'd call L&L. However, she also refers to these as weapons. The idea of an early 4D thought war holds no appeal to me, though.
The part about compassion being hot, and burning resonated with me: like deep compassion runs too hot for our MBS without the radical insight of interconnectedness.
RE: metaverse and matrix - Sacred Fool - 12-18-2021
I found that video to be an intense compendium of negative images, seasoned with very few positive ones. Not what your basic Buddhist teachings look like, more like what Q'uo describes as good channeling turned negative: mainly messages of doom and destruction couched in a positive framework. Did anyone finish that with a feeling of uplift and hope? Or did violence and visceral desiring-to-posses seem to have a larger impact than anything positive?
I'm asking, not because the video is all that big a deal in itself, but to open a potential discussion of how such masks can be worn, and can be seen through.
RE: metaverse and matrix - Patrick - 12-18-2021
I don't bother pointing this stuff out anymore. I figured that there must be a reason why a person resonate with that kind of stuff and a reason why they wish to share it.
RE: metaverse and matrix - the - 12-20-2021
(12-11-2021, 11:10 PM)the Wrote: I think everyone should be aware of the agenda of metaverse, and know it's not good for our spiritual development.
it's at the very early stage now, but it will develop fast as soon as the C19 vaccine thing fade off.
maybe soon we can say another big spiritual development catalyst , the metaverse showed up :-)
some related videos:
1. WHAT IS THE METAVERSE? : A VIDEO ALL ADULTS & PARENTS MUST WATCH!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e99xIi5Jpc
2. Marina Jacobi - Metaverse vs Hyperspace Hologram - S4 E50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6S9WzPl1Zs
most people's energy are still put to C19 vaccine at this moment. But after they switch attention to metaverse, soon this forum will have another heated debate. probably by then, forum admin team will consolidate metaverse discussion into one big thread like c19 vaccine :-)
this is part of what I learned from C19 vaccine. it explains why i am seeing C19 vaccine at the 'right' thing, some of the points might also apply to metaverse.
copied from post https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=17112&pid=307783#pid307783
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also, from book 'the ascension papers' , i already know everything is right . if i can't see the beauty of picture, it's because i stand too close to it.
through this vaccine thing, i have far better understanding of knowing why it's "right" ( at my current level of ignorance):
1. it's not because this c19 vaccine is good for people. a lot of people are dead, got long term disability from it. so it is definitely hurting and killing people. but on the other hand, a lot of people wake up from their family member, friends' vaccine injury. a lot of people took 2 shots, and decided not to take 3rd shots.
even more surprisingly, i am seeing more and more people start to have compassion, organized to help each other, at a faster pace i have never seen before.
2. it's because some of those lower consciousness level people use this opportunity to exit the game, a lot of survived people began to wake up, so human being's group consciousness level actually went up. its like remove from weeds from grains. maybe this analogy is too harsh, but it's the truth
again, all above is just understanding at my current level of ignorance. every moment, i am learning something new, building a new and more expanded viewpoints, and may having a slight different viewpoints than before.
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RE: metaverse and matrix - Diana - 12-20-2021
I love the satire of J P Sears. The metaverse video ends at 4:56, then he talks about Zion, an uncensored bitcoin browser:
RE: metaverse and matrix - Patrick - 12-20-2021
It makes me shiver to think Facebook, of all companies, would be the one to push for this concept of the Metaverse. But since they bought a VR tech company, they will want to focus only on VR access. This will ensure they are not the one that wins the race... thankfully.
Of course, this ends up making the concept of a Metaverse look bad. A bit like how the Elite implemented Communism in a very bad way by associating it with a dictature and so ensuring socialism adoption would be slowed down. Their goal was not to create a new wonderful social structure, but to preempt efforts towards such and distort it to no end.
It's obvious this is how they operate. Now they'll do that with the concept of the Metaverse and so doing will slow down the advent of our Social Memory Complex... Ah well, it's nothing new. But maybe seekers here can become aware of this at least and witness it unfold, thus ensuring you do not fall for the act being played out, but instead keep an eye on the strings.
RE: metaverse and matrix - IndigoSalvia - 12-20-2021
(12-20-2021, 11:05 AM)Diana Wrote: I love the satire of J P Sears.
LMAO!
"Yes, please." Love the images of him lying on the bathroom floor in his tighty whiteys. Just what I needed this morning with my coffee.
RE: metaverse and matrix - unity100 - 01-08-2022
There is nothing wrong with metaverse, computers, virtual worlds, the internet, software, programs, AI or anything of the sort.
They are just tools which enrich the experience in this planet. A large majority of wanderers would be bored out of their freaking minds if such venues were not present.
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Here you are, using 'the internet' which was declared satanic by a lot of people when it first came to being, posting in this forum, talking to people. Doing the same kind of declaration for metaverse or the ai or anything similar would just mean that you have no difference from those who declared the internet 'evil' back in the day. This should tell something.
RE: metaverse and matrix - Diana - 01-08-2022
(01-08-2022, 03:37 AM)unity100 Wrote: There is nothing wrong with metaverse, computers, virtual worlds, the internet, software, programs, AI or anything of the sort.
They are just tools which enrich the experience in this planet. A large majority of wanderers would be bored out of their freaking minds if such venues were not present.
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Here you are, using 'the internet' which was declared satanic by a lot of people when it first came to being, posting in this forum, talking to people. Doing the same kind of declaration for metaverse or the ai or anything similar would just mean that you have no difference from those who declared the internet 'evil' back in the day. This should tell something.
I agree with this, although I wouldn't characterize all those questioning the metaverse in this way. I must add that if there is no balance (getting out into the natural world, nature, around other life forms one can't control) then how does one make sense of how one is related to all else? I suppose it could be done to a certain extent virtually, but the missing element is the challenge of real interaction with what has been created here physically in which to navigate. Why be here at all if one is going to just be plugged into a VR? I realize this leads us down an existential rabbit hole, given that it could be said in 3D we are plugged into a VR.
I think the danger is for those who simply do not think for themselves, although, ultimately, it is all choice (or the choice not to choose, or the sinkhole of indifference). Those who just follow and buy into anything the media says will keep doing that anyway. VR just makes it more immersive, and eventually, as we have subliminal advertising which has been around for decades, it only follows that some type of coercive technology for the sake of profit, or whatever inducement, will be incorporated.
I think VR has great potential for growth in consciousness beyond the idea of simple fun, but like anything in this reality, it can be used for less-than-desirable purposes—hence the need for balance and discretion.
In any case, there is no stopping technology, and as in the ending of the 3rd Matrix movie, the "machines" and humans need to find a way to work together.
By the way, has anyone seen the recent Matrix movie yet?
RE: metaverse and matrix - IndigoSalvia - 01-08-2022
(01-08-2022, 12:47 PM)Diana Wrote: By the way, has anyone seen the recent Matrix movie yet?
Yes. I wish I would've rewatched the first ones again before seeing this one, just to bring it all to the foreground of my awareness. My family - who had maybe watched the first ones once - were lost at times.
Blue or red?
RE: metaverse and matrix - sriyantra - 01-08-2022
This stuff all depends on how you use it. I have an Oculus Quest 2 and I see its value as something that can be beneficial as a catalyst for higher awakening. For one, there are artists that have created spiritual programming for VR experiences, which is nice. But I think at face value, you can play or experiment with VR and still get some results that are unique to VR that allow for actually increasing one's awareness. This can be seen in the way that when you first try VR for a few hours and you take off the headset and return to your everyday life, there can be a tendency to realize that we are actually already living in a Matrix of sorts. You can be come hyper aware of everything around you because you suddenly see everything with new eyes. You go from switching bodies/avatars. It makes you aware that you are not this body specifically, but a spirit primarily that travels across different dimensions and bodies and experiences different realms of consciousness. The VR world feels like a type of shared astral plane made visceral.
Another factor is that it increases your ability to pay attention to whatever it is that you're doing in VR. When I use my smartphone, I'm distracted by a million different things because there are so many messages and social media apps that are designed to distract you like you're in a casino. But in VR, a lot of the content is about immersion- you have to focus entirely on one thing at a time. So, it's like being in a movie theater. The content you experience is up to you. But there are reports of people having greater dream recall, more vivid dreams, and lucid dreams after using VR. It seems that it has the capacity to broaden your consciousness to what can be experienced. It's up to you to use your imagination and explore the powers of the mind when you're not in VR. However, there are a lot of a meditation based VR experiences.
Also, most VR headsets are uncomfortable to wear for more than an hour or two. So really it's more of an intensive immersion experience. And it helps give you perspective so that when you come back to "Earth" you have a new way of seeing things- it can feel like your presence and awareness has increased.
Then of course being able to hang out with friends or create friends from around the world seems to have many STO elements. The internet has this in general, but when you are in VR it feels like you're hanging out with people for real. And it can fill an emptiness or lack of social fulfillment that sometimes will not be filled. I've met some really cool spiritual types on there.
RE: metaverse and matrix - Quincunx - 01-08-2022
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RE: metaverse and matrix - Diana - 01-10-2022
(01-08-2022, 01:52 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote:(01-08-2022, 12:47 PM)Diana Wrote: By the way, has anyone seen the recent Matrix movie yet?
Yes. I wish I would've rewatched the first ones again before seeing this one, just to bring it all to the foreground of my awareness. My family - who had maybe watched the first ones once - were lost at times.
Blue or red?
Red, always the red.
Did you like it? No sequel will ever match the original Matrix movie. But what did you think?
(01-08-2022, 07:18 PM)Quincunx Wrote: I saw an interview where a woman claimed that she originally wrote both "The Matrix" and "The Terminator" movies. Someone had stole her stuff and she never got credit for the making of the films. Anyways, in the interview she said she wanted to connect that Neo was the reincarnation of John Connor. This actually makes sense from the robot perspective. What if the Terminators evolved to become what we see in the Matrix movies.
A lot of the ideas in The Matrix were not new. In fact, the makers of The Matrix stole considerably from The Dark City, and this is further supported, purportedly, that while in production the Matrix producers saw their uncut footage (you only need to watch The Dark City to see this). But, the creative genius of the Watchowskis cannot be denied. Plot is not everything, and there is very little original content in the world. The way they materfully put the film together is brilliant.
RE: metaverse and matrix - tadeus - 02-20-2022
I found a nice quote from Keanu Reeves 2018 regarding the matrix:
Quote:A war is being fought that will shape the future of human existence and the world we leave for our children, according to Keanu Reeves, who says he is “quietly optimistic” about the future because “humanity is showing signs of breaking free from the matrix.“
“The human race has been enslaved for thousands of years,” Keanu Reeves said while filming in the Mojave Desert, explaining that “we have been kept in a mental prison by shadowy elites and secret societies that have done all they can to suppress us and stop us reaching our potential.”
But the Matrix star, who was filming scenes from Squarespace’s upcoming Super Bowl commercial, says the real world matrix is beginning to crack. “Humanity is showing signs of breaking free from the matrix. What a time to be alive! We are living in exciting times.”
Explaining that he has been studying ancient texts including the Vedanta and the Upanishads and learning about the nature of reality, Keanu said, “Yeah, sure, there are a lot of people still only interested in keeping up with the Kardashians, but a significant chunk of the population have woken up.
“Most importantly there is now a war being fought between our overlord masters and those who wish to set us free.“
Here you can find some nice quotes from the matrix movies