’Ra’ Wrote:This is not only correct but we suggest you take this concept further and understand the great number of entities with the so-called mental diseases being due to the effect of this green-ray true color upon the mental configurations of those unready mentally to face the self for the first time.

(10-11-2021, 08:54 AM)anicolai Wrote: The standards of labeling states of being as "mental illness" is constantly changing, so I am not sure there is "more" now than there were.  What we call some mental illnesses now were considered variations of personality/identity 50 years ago, and some things that were considered mental illness 50 years ago are now variations of personality/identity.  If you remove the labels/names and categorizations of mental illnesses, you are left with just a planet full of a HUGE endless variety of people who are all incarnating for very personal reasons, and "mental illness" is a catalyst for learning and teaching.  Whether there is "more" of it is hard to know because the standards are not static.

(10-11-2021, 03:47 AM)YinYang Wrote: Is anyone noticing an uptick in mental illness – family, friends, workplace, social gatherings, etc.

(10-11-2021, 12:10 PM)Nikki Wrote: If you listen to Seth, you will have a much greater understanding of what is actually going on which opens one's heart and mind to the truth.  Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EoDWu8XZbI

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2021/2021_0623.aspx Wrote:Gary: That was illuminating. Thank you, Q'uo. I've got another spontaneous one. In a similar vein, Ra described that the impact of the increasing fourth-density light was such that, for some entities, instead of moving upward into greater collective and green-ray considerations, they experienced something of a regression or reversion, in my paraphrase. That is, they reverted to considerations of self and the orange ray. Ra added that there are many upon our plane in this state at that time. (Ra 41.14)

Can you speak to how that particular input affects the collective soup at this time?


Q’uo: I am Q'uo, and I am aware of the query, my brother. We appreciate the scope of this question as it relates to your present condition, for we find that, in the time since those of Ra offered this perspective, the dynamic at play has increased upon your planet, and even more fourth-density light is becoming available. And thus the condition described by those of Ra increases, both in the positive or beneficial aspects or in the seemingly difficult aspects of individuals reverting to more primal stages of development and perception.

To speak to the effects of this dynamic upon the so-called collective soup of your planetary sphere, we point to what seems to be, to this instrument and to many others, a growing polarization among the collective need to organize, also called the political realm of your society, as well as the ever-present streak among your peoples of fear about the state of your political world or your world in general.

The fear and polarization is not a new dynamic, for we find that it has been present ever since the first forms of government or collective society have existed upon your planet. Yet, as your planet is now more connected and varied in government and society with the addition of this fourth-density energy, we find that it is indeed stronger than ever in the history of your planet. And yet, as we spoke to within the previous query, this creates a certain accentuation so that your peoples, as a collective, may see more clearly that this reversion, which results in greater fear and greater polarization among social perspectives, is an aspect of your society that needs addressed. Though there are many differences in perspective among the many various factions, we find that the awareness of the need and desire to build common ground is also stronger than ever upon your planet.

And so, through this greater impact of fourth-density energy that may create a reversion among individuals and groups to more basic expressions in the lower chakras, the fourth-density energy also offers its light in terms of a shared awareness of what is happening. And through this reversion, as the individual's worldview shrinks and focuses more towards the individual or towards the close tribe, this focus offers its own catalyst that, if inevitably utilized by the individual, the fourth-density nature of this reversion may become clear, more so than in your planet's history. And through such a reversion, the individual may experience somewhat of a death and rebirth, as the catalyst generated by this reversion becomes increasingly harsh and chips away at the individual that experiences the reversion.

The strength of this energy that generates this dynamic is correlated also to the potential for transformation. And thus, you may see that this dynamic described by those of Ra may seem, in a sense, undesirable, it is, in fact, a great opportunity; and though a moment like your present may seem to generate despair, it will ultimately, we believe, result in unprecedented and unexpected transformation of collective will and collective purpose shaped upon the foundation of the love and understanding innate within these fourth-density energies that bombard your planet at this time.

You may, as seekers, open yourselves to this energy and allow it to potentiate your actions and find guidance within it, for this energy or light, as it is filtered through your Logos and your planet, weaves together the intelligences of those beings and your collective, and generates a potential social memory complex to form that you may aid by allowing yourself to place your faith in this process and in this loving and intelligent light that is available at this time.

(10-12-2021, 11:42 AM)Diana Wrote:

(10-11-2021, 12:10 PM)Nikki Wrote: If you listen to Seth, you will have a much greater understanding of what is actually going on which opens one's heart and mind to the truth.  Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EoDWu8XZbI

This is very good. I remember reading Seth on disasters and epidemics many, many years ago, and it made perfect sense to me. What Seth has to say aligns with Ra, though those of Ra cut more to a concise and loaded sentence or two—as usual—and imply more than is said.

I wonder if the uptick in mental illness has to do with cognitive dissonance being more and more exposed or unable to sustain itself. If we are moving into a time of more transparency, it will become more and more difficult to maintain self-delusion (of which likely every person in 3D engages in to some degree). Turning inward to face self-accountability and self-responsibility is a huge can of worms for most humans to open given the ways in which survival takes precedence in 3D.

I have also noticed that physical issues are manifesting more quickly from various mental constructs (stress, anxiety, and psychological reasons Seth touches on) even in the last few months. This is definitely a time, in my opinion, to step back and get a larger view of what is going on in the world unencumbered by the media, and simultaneously get more in touch with one's inner world.

Also, speaking to what Seth said, the pandemic offers an opportunity for people to exit this life/reality. And it would make sense that it would be happening for many, since this is a transitional time. For example, if someone has a heart condition, it seems to me that Covid would give that person a psychological doorway to just go, rather than hang on mentally to some "cure" which might be found or just to string themselves along with medications, if it is their plan/inner wish to be finished with this reality and move on to the next thing.

’Ra’ Wrote:
The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

(10-21-2021, 09:39 AM)anicolai Wrote: I am a student of the Seth material and am very glad he was brought up.  He makes more sense than most when it comes to everyday existence and awareness.

(10-22-2021, 05:23 AM)YinYang Wrote:

(10-21-2021, 09:39 AM)anicolai Wrote: I am a student of the Seth material and am very glad he was brought up.  He makes more sense than most when it comes to everyday existence and awareness.

I must say, it's quite novel idea for an entity to request to write his own book, and I'm really enjoying Seth Speaks. I think I'm on Chapter 10 or thereabouts.

I believe Jane Roberts was also a prolific author in her own right.

(10-22-2021, 04:24 AM)YinYang Wrote: I still haven’t done my due diligence and gone through the links (which I’m leaving for this weekend), but as I’m thinking about this and watching the world, I’m forming my own opinion about factors which I think are driving this.

There’s another quote in the Ra material which comes to mind.

’Ra’ Wrote:
The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

So we finally capitulated to peer pressure and watched Squid Game… and it’s quite disturbing. And then a day or so ago I saw this article in the news.

South Korea's millennials say their lives aren't that different from 'Squid Game' as they face a crisis of mounting debt, unaffordable homes, and dead-end jobs

I think there is a widespread hopelessness, when young people can’t even entertain the prospect of buying a home anymore the world over. You're basically seeing inflation that's out of control. They’re panicking about staying afloat financially, then Covid hit and countless layoffs ensued, along with business closures. 

In China this hopelessness shows itself with the “lying flat” phenomenon:

'Lying flat': The millennials quitting China's '996' work culture to live 'free of anxiety'

Mix all of this with the dystopian entertainment on TV nowadays, and the endless stream of horror in the news, and it’s kind of the perfect storm. I think there’s a breaking point for many, and I think that’s what we’re starting to see.

My mom also mentioned something the other day (she’s in her 80s) which is so true. She said what passes for entertainment on TV these days is an indication of how sick society has become. She said in her day they had Sound of Music, Gone With The Wind, etc. There was a dignity in entertainment. Now it’s just debasement, dystopia, and disturbing content… and this poetic alliteration of mine was unintentional. It’s as if shock is the main driver in entertainment.

This of course is a wide-ranging topic, so the above thoughts are just some puzzle pieces... in a very complex puzzle.

(10-22-2021, 02:09 PM)Spaced Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 04:24 AM)YinYang Wrote: I still haven’t done my due diligence and gone through the links (which I’m leaving for this weekend), but as I’m thinking about this and watching the world, I’m forming my own opinion about factors which I think are driving this.

There’s another quote in the Ra material which comes to mind.

’Ra’ Wrote:
The Earth seems to be negative. That is due to the quiet, shall we say, horror which is the common distortion which those good or positively oriented entities have towards the occurrences which are of your space/time present. However, those oriented and harvestable in the ways of service to others greatly outnumber those whose orientation towards service to self has become that of harvestable quality.

So we finally capitulated to peer pressure and watched Squid Game… and it’s quite disturbing. And then a day or so ago I saw this article in the news.

South Korea's millennials say their lives aren't that different from 'Squid Game' as they face a crisis of mounting debt, unaffordable homes, and dead-end jobs

I think there is a widespread hopelessness, when young people can’t even entertain the prospect of buying a home anymore the world over. You're basically seeing inflation that's out of control. They’re panicking about staying afloat financially, then Covid hit and countless layoffs ensued, along with business closures. 

In China this hopelessness shows itself with the “lying flat” phenomenon:

'Lying flat': The millennials quitting China's '996' work culture to live 'free of anxiety'

Mix all of this with the dystopian entertainment on TV nowadays, and the endless stream of horror in the news, and it’s kind of the perfect storm. I think there’s a breaking point for many, and I think that’s what we’re starting to see.

My mom also mentioned something the other day (she’s in her 80s) which is so true. She said what passes for entertainment on TV these days is an indication of how sick society has become. She said in her day they had Sound of Music, Gone With The Wind, etc. There was a dignity in entertainment. Now it’s just debasement, dystopia, and disturbing content… and this poetic alliteration of mine was unintentional. It’s as if shock is the main driver in entertainment.

This of course is a wide-ranging topic, so the above thoughts are just some puzzle pieces... in a very complex puzzle.

Yes, I think we often discount the harm that comes from stress and anxiety. The way our society is structured forces many into rigid and stressful daily routines which some people simply aren't compatible with, and since they aren't able to integrate into this structure they are considered to have a disorder or disability. 

We spend most of our waking life working with the promise that it will allow us to support a comfortable lifestyle and raise a family, but that no longer the case for the most part. The prevalent culture is one where work is valued over rest and "laziness" and unemployment are considered moral failings. People are busy busy busy with little time to recuperate, and there's an added layer of financial stress from debt or high cost of living. People who are busy all the time also have less opportunity to develop meaning in their lives. The result is a state of alienation and quiet desperation. When one is operating under a lot of stress for an extended period it takes a toll on both their mental and physical health. This situation is only getting worse as time goes on, and the pandemic certainly didn't help things on that front, so I can see why there are increasing rates of mental illness.

Picking up the thread on ADHD, are there really more cases of ADHD in recent times or is it that more people are being diagnosed who would have flown under the radar previously? ADHD is a genetic adaptation for the most part, and may have actually been an advantage in hunter-gatherer societies: https://www.healthline.com/health/adhd/evolution

Just some thoughts

(10-22-2021, 03:23 PM)pat19989 Wrote: I also see a lot of the mental illness we see in today's culture being a result of the times we live in. Not only are more people diagnosed because conditions are more normalized, but our society sets up a lot of people to develop a mind that is plagued with problems. The availability of distractions that take us apart from each other is astounding. We have taken all that our egos have been feeding us about being separate from each other and believing it for generations resulting in a structure that seeks to separate us possibly more than bring us together. This belief in separation, loneliness, etc has led to a lot of depression and anxiety.

Not to say any of this makes mental illness any easier to deal with for those that deal (myself, and pretty much everyone i know included). Its tough out here, but love shines through eventually.