(07-04-2021, 12:39 AM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: Here's my issue. We all have sexual natures. It's even part of the basis of our chakra system and  so I think there's no getting rid of it. My problem with it is that, for personal reasons, having a partner with which to express this very fundamental part of human nature in a positive, STO manner is not an option. So I feel like, not being able to get rid of sexuality, I'm forced to express it in what I feel is STS in nature. I wish for everything about me to be STO, so this is very  frustrating to me. The issue is made worse b/c when sexuality is STS, it causes blockages in the red and orange ray chakras, which makes it like a wildfire which easily burns it's way into much distortion. This then begins to affect other areas of your life and can cause a lot of misery. I don't know if there's any way to reverse this process or heal the damage when the root of the problem cannot be dug out or dealt with in a positive fashion. Maybe  it can.

(07-04-2021, 03:18 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: Thanks for all the great responses so far. In my situation, I'm not in a sexual relationship with anyone and for several reasons like I said I feel like I can't be. So all my sexuality is expressed only with myself. I'm not consciously polarizing negatively with this, but as I understand the Law of One material, there is no neutral. Everything we do is either STS or STO. The neutral idea I think comes from the sinkhole of indifference dealing with harvestability, but it's only neutral because all the mixed positive and negative choices cancel each other out and result in no net polarization. Expressing sexuality by yourself seems to me to be possible only in a STS way because there's no other-self in the picture to serve. What bothers me about this is that it leaves you focusing on your own gratification alone and sexual attraction and lust seems like it becomes exploitative in its energy, not seeing the other as the self with love as the Creator in unity but as an object, with no mutual reciprocity to balance it out and take the focus off the self. This dynamic grieves my spirit because I know that all is one in love, but while operating in this manner, it feels like I'm not recognizing or upholding that.

(07-04-2021, 03:18 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: ...as I understand the Law of One material, there is no neutral. Everything we do is either STS or STO...

(07-04-2021, 12:39 AM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: I've read the guidelines about posting on  this subject. I know it can be a tricky and sensitive one, but I feel like I really need feedback on this subject. I hope what I have to  say is okay with  the community  and moderators and that it is appropriate enough. If not, feel free to delete the thread  and let me know and I will refrain from making any posts or threads about this subject in the future. I wish to fully cooperate in this respect. I hope everyone who participates in  this discussion is able to do so in an appropriate way as well.

Here's my issue. We all have sexual natures. It's even part of the basis of our chakra system and  so I think there's no getting rid of it. My problem with it is that, for personal reasons, having a partner with which to express this very fundamental part of human nature in a positive, STO manner is not an option. So I feel like, not being able to get rid of sexuality, I'm forced to express it in what I feel is STS in nature. I wish for everything about me to be STO, so this is very  frustrating to me. The issue is made worse b/c when sexuality is STS, it causes blockages in the red and orange ray chakras, which makes it like a wildfire which easily burns it's way into much distortion. This then begins to affect other areas of your life and can cause a lot of misery. I don't know if there's any way to reverse this process or heal the damage when the root of the problem cannot be dug out or dealt with in a positive fashion. Maybe  it can.

How do I solve this problem? I'm sure I'm not the only one who has struggled with it. Any advice would be  appreciated. I haven't read all  the vast  amounts of Confederation channeling in L/L's library yet. Maybe someone knows of some q'uotes that may help me. I wish I could just  get rid of it altogether. lol. Maybe this is one of my life's lessons for which I incarnated to work on or maybe it just comes with the package of being human. I don't  know. Being able to reign in this energy and use it to perform high magic with an other-self in the presence of and dedicated to the One Creator, making sweeps of positive polarization, would be a dream. Maybe in another life...

(07-04-2021, 03:18 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: Thanks for all the great responses so far. In my situation, I'm not in a sexual relationship with anyone and for several reasons like I said I feel like I can't be. So all my sexuality is expressed only with myself. I'm not consciously polarizing negatively with this, but as I understand the Law of One material, there is no neutral. Everything we do is either STS or STO. The neutral idea I think comes from the sinkhole of indifference dealing with harvestability, but it's only neutral because all the mixed positive and negative choices cancel each other out and result in no net polarization. Expressing sexuality by yourself seems to me to be possible only in a STS way because there's no other-self in the picture to serve. What bothers me about this is that it leaves you focusing on your own gratification alone and sexual attraction and lust seems like it becomes exploitative in its energy, not seeing the other as the self with love as the Creator in unity but as an object, with no mutual reciprocity to balance it out and take the focus off the self. This dynamic grieves my spirit because I know that all is one in love, but while operating in this manner, it feels like I'm not recognizing or upholding that.

(07-06-2021, 06:04 PM)Spaced Wrote: One of the things that causes distortion in regards to sexuality is shame. Shame shows a lack of acceptance of the self and a rejection of a fundamental part of one's nature. Acceptance is a big theme in the Law of One books, and acceptance of self in particular is a key to spiritual growth.

On the topic of desire, Ra mentions that to suppress desires is contradictory to spiritual growth. Instead they hold that one must explore their desires and as growth occurs that which is no longer needed will fall away. I have found this to be the case with my sexuality for the most part.

This may sound like I'm just saying "just do whatever you want," but it's a bit more subtle than that. Through exploring our desires we can better understand ourselves and the more we understand ourselves the more we can understand the roots of our desires and work with them directly to ascertain whether or not they serve the. Polarity comes into play based on the intention with which one approaches something, in this case sexuality. If one sees sex as a battle of will, an act of domination or a transaction which benefits the self, these attitudes may leads to negative polarization. Sex can also be approached as a way of becoming close to another, or to bring pleasure to them, etc. So attitude can be important, and attitude shifts based on one's level of understanding.

Anyhow these are just some of my thoughts, hopefully they are of some use.

(07-06-2021, 07:50 PM)boundlessheart Wrote: I've done a lot of healing work on my own sexuality in the past five years. For what it's worth, it's not easy work, but it can be done. ...

I have been lurking here some time, but this is an area I've studied (both in my healing practice and on my self), so I felt drawn to answer. I'm happy to share more of my experiences working in this area if you feel that might be helpful!

(07-06-2021, 09:12 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: I think I just need to accept this portion of myself. I think it's only the ego that judges and makes misery out of the situation. In accepting it, the issue becomes inconsequential- just another part of the One- or at least then only love can be reaped from it. That doesn't mean I just let it run wild either, though. But in applying loving guidance upon the pattern without judgement, doing the best I can with love in each moment and then letting it go, I know  that all will be well. I just gotta watch to make sure ego doesn't rise up again and wreak havoc on things with guilt, judgement and shame which only perpetuates the problem, or rather gets me off course from the highest good that's possible. In the end, it's all good. It's all love/light and I am one with that as all there is.

(07-04-2021, 08:18 PM)Patrick Wrote:

(07-04-2021, 03:18 PM)Brandon Gwinn Wrote: ...as I understand the Law of One material, there is no neutral. Everything we do is either STS or STO...

Yes, but then the neutrality comes from the fact that what you are doing has very little impact on polarity. So while everything we do affects polarity, when the effect is too small to care about, then I think we can safely say that it is neutral.

In your case, since you are not even interacting with others, I think any change in polarity falls within this "neutral" concept.

I really believe we need to interact with others to polarize negatively. I do not believe we can affect polarity much in the negative sense without direct interaction with others. Because it needs to be at the expanse of others to be negative in any meaningful ways, otherwise it falls in the pseudo-neutral.

(07-10-2021, 12:03 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote: Wow this thread. I have little to add that hasn't already been said better. Just a basic simple thought:

If I am hungry but have no one to eat with, is it negative to feed my body and eat alone?

If I want to learn, but have no one to read aloud to or alongside with, is it negative to read by myself?

And if I want to explore the silence, and dive into my depths, but have no one to meditate with... you get the picture.

As Ra and others in this thread have highlighted, there are two basic responses and relationship to catalyst: control/manipulation and love/acceptance. As with all catalyst and activity, masturbation can be undertaken with either attitude, or a confused mix of both.

And one more thing. 49.8 speaks specifically to the work of the adept and the use of visualization through concentration, but, there is a principle contained in that passage: solitary work can be undertaken in such a way as to polarize the self positively and literally raise the vibration of the planet positively, no other-self needed.

How that principle might apply to this situation, I don't know, but the principle stands; and it may be worth contemplating generally in your exploration of the philosophy of polarity in consciousness.

(07-10-2021, 12:30 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: You can, (either), do it as a gross material pleasure, (or), as a concentration and Meditation and Tantra. Either are acceptable and your decision. Is anyone going to judge you? The fact is, there is a borderline between the personal self, and the selfless self.

I think what the problem is, you are trying to complicate things. It doesn't have to be complicated. Live a normal life, and when the time is right, concentrate on the Spiritual.

(07-13-2021, 06:53 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote:

(07-10-2021, 12:30 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: You can, (either), do it as a gross material pleasure, (or), as a concentration and Meditation and Tantra. Either are acceptable and your decision. Is anyone going to judge you? The fact is, there is a borderline between the personal self, and the selfless self.

I think what the problem is, you are trying to complicate things. It doesn't have to be complicated. Live a normal life, and when the time is right, concentrate on the Spiritual.

"A borderline between the personal self and the selfless self." I like that. It conjures in me a sense that the two distinctions belong to a unified self and that there is some threshold within that self that, once crossed, takes one further into what we call selflessness, this depending on one's intentions and the purity therein.

Regarding Brandon complicating things... I think that one's relationship to their sexuality is an inherently complex one; complex if one had never encountered another human being, but all the more complex given millennia of accumulated cultural/religious around sexuality, and powerful negative inroads made in that realm, that we unconsciously absorb from the world around us.

Not negating the possibility and the value of simplicity, and simplifying one's outlook, though. From the vantage point of simplicity, a lot of human activity is just superimposed and unnnecessary complication.

Ming, I also appreciate your thoughts about positive attitudes and goodwill (if truly and purely embodied, I would add) necessarily promote peace.

Brandon, I did not attempt to speak to the more complex, deep-rooted, and personal aspects of your relationship to sexuality. I think others did so very well. I just meant briefly to touch on the question embedded in your OP concerning the application of polarity in consciousness to sexual self-care.

Is that or any particular activity STS or STO or neither or both? This is why it is important, I think for one to gain a decent grasp on polarity in consciousness as the Confederation describe if one is going to use the Confederation philosophy as a map and compass on their journey. Lacking sufficient understanding, ideas can be misapplied to self and others. But, that's part of the journey too, for all of us.