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Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-22-2021
Normally we live in space/time with the impression and feeling of a linear time.
We learn that time can be measured, but Einstein has shown that time is not a constant, it is dependent on space.
In the last month ago i did have a couple of moments, where i could get into the position of an observer of time.
This happens in normal situations, like stumble over an tree root walking through the forest.
There was suddenly the thought "you will stumble" a part of a second before it happens without looking down.
You can interpret this simple as foreseeing, but there was the clear feeling of an own context of time in different situations.
When i think about it in the case of stumbling, the question that comes up is "do we really have a quick reflex or is it only training of unconscious forseeing?"
So is it possible, that a reflex is only an unconscious prepared reaction of an event in the near future of an moment?
The other thing is that time seems to pass over generally quicker and quicker.
I have the feeling that my time is different (slower) from the time surrounding me.
Does any one have similar experiences or perception?
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - Patrick - 05-22-2021
From one week to another, the feeling of time is very different for me. Even from season to season or day to day.
Here is an interesting article on time.
THE NATURE OF 3-DIMENSIONAL TIME
http://www.conscioushugs.com/the-nature-of-3-dimensional-time/
http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/The-Nature-of-3-Dimensional-Time-Phoenix-III-Daniel.pdf
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-22-2021
(05-22-2021, 07:02 AM)Patrick Wrote: From one week to another, the feeling of time is very different for me. Even from season to season or day to day.
Yes - the feeling is dependent on what you are doing and if you have the possibility to arrange your time for yourself.
(05-22-2021, 07:02 AM)Patrick Wrote: http://www.conscioushugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/The-Nature-of-3-Dimensional-Time-Phoenix-III-Daniel.pdf
Time is dependent from gravitiy, but gravity itself seems not to be a constant and discrete force.
But what i mean is that we can take active influence on our tme by consciousness.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-22-2021
Ra 29.11
Quote:I am Ra. We have just described to you the state of beingness of each Logos. The process by which space/time comes into continuum form is a function of the careful building, shall we say, of an entire, or whole, plan of vibratory rates, densities, and potentials. When this plan has coalesced in the thought complexes of Love, then the physical manifestations begin to appear; this first manifestation stage being awareness or consciousness.
At the point at which this coalescence is at the livingness or beingness point—the point, or fountainhead, of beginning—space/time then begins to unroll its scroll of livingness.
Ra 36.1
Quote:I am Ra. There is a dimension in which time does not have sway. In this dimension the mind/body/spirit, in its eternal dance of the present, may be seen in totality, and before the mind/body/spirit complex, which then becomes a part of the social memory complex, is willingly absorbed into the allness of the One Creator, the entity knows itself in its totality.
Ra 40.9
Quote:(40.9) QUESTIONER Has the vibration of the basic . . . of the photon, of all our particles increased in frequency already?
RA I am Ra. This is correct. It is this influence which has begun to cause thoughts to become things. As an example, you may observe the thoughts of anger becoming those cells of the physical bodily complex going out of control to become what you call the cancer.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - Dtris - 05-22-2021
While in Space/Time as we are when reading this forum we have some ability to influence time. This can be done thru meditation and generally you can effect yourself but not others afaik. Time is occasionally described as a river in asian literature. Time flows in one direction and no one can change the river. But you can change how you are effected by the river, whether you float faster, or slower, or move side to side. Sometimes you can even see the rocks ahead or the waterfall.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - Doomchief - 05-22-2021
I think foreseeing is the result of indigo ray center activity in the time/space with probability vortexes.
If seen from a more "human" perspective we are made of photons just as everything else around. The photon itself does not perceive time being simultaneously in the begining and the "end" of its journey. So we can experience life at different speeds changing the perception of time by speeding up or slowing down consciousness.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - jafar - 05-22-2021
tadeus Wrote:The other thing is that time seems to pass over generally quicker and quicker.
I have the feeling that my time is different (slower) from the time surrounding me.
Does any one have similar experiences or perception?
This is related to physical aging, as you aged, the frequency of your brain (during wakeful state) will also become gradually slower (and thus your reaction become slower as well). This makes you perceive hours and days gone by faster.
The brain frequency of a fly, for example is much faster than human, thus they perceive time to be slower compared to human, yet they have much faster reaction compared to human. From the perspective of a fly one day can felt like a month or a year.
By frequency here it's the 'tick tock' processing cycle frequency, similar to computer CPU frequency, which today is around 5 billions cycle per second, while human brain wakeful state frequency is around 30 cycle per second.
Having said that, consciousness does not depend on the physical brain and can experience things beyond 'physical wakeful state' of the brain or even beyond the death / total malfunction of the physical brain.
Ra mentioned as a 6th density consciousness they can switch around between reality of space/time and time/space.
Thus in absolute reality time is not linear.
But within the context of space/time then time is linear and only moves forward.
While within the context of time/space, time is not linear while space is linear/fixed.
At the moment I don't have any access to the memory of my own experience within time/space context, yet the above is my understanding based on Ra's description. They also mentioned that every one will experience time/space context after the death of physical body. (end of one physical incarnation) Time/space reality is used for 'life review and evaluation process' .
http://www.lawofonesociety.com/index.php/explanation-of-space-time-and-time-space-concept
Quote:Session 71
in space/time
it is not possible to determine the course of events beyond the incarnation but only to correct present imbalances.
In time/space, upon the other hand,
it is not possible to correct any unbalanced actions but rather to perceive the imbalances and thusly forgive the self for that which is.
The decisions then are made to set up the possibility/probabilities of correcting these imbalances in what you call future space/time experiences.
The advantage of time/space
is that of the fluidity of the grand overview.
The advantage of space/time
is that, working in darkness with a tiny candle, one may correct imbalances.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - Diana - 05-22-2021
Regarding this matter, you might contemplate the inferences of the double-slit experiment, wherein it is demonstrated that observation collapses the wave (all possibilities) to a particle (one outcome):
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-22-2021
(05-22-2021, 09:52 AM)jafar Wrote: This is related to physical aging, as you aged, the frequency of your brain (during wakeful state) will also become gradually slower (and thus your reaction become slower as well). This makes you perceive hours and days gone by faster.
Then my brain must be very slow,
(05-22-2021, 09:52 AM)jafar Wrote: At the moment I don't have any access to the memory of my own experience within time/space context, yet the above is my understanding based on Ra's description. They also mentioned that every one will experience time/space context after the death of physical body. (end of one physical incarnation) Time/space reality is used for 'life review and evaluation process'.
and there are moments where i am already dead.
But generally i know what you want to say. Thanks.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - flofrog - 05-22-2021
Great question, Tadeus...
In Conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsh there is an interesting image given on linear time. Walsh is given the idea for time and incarnations as if he were looking at a pole from one of its extremities and see on the pole a multitude of little stickers, each representing an incarnation, all happening together and that would be the way to look at incarnations from out of space/time.
A few years ago, as I was really busy I started to plan time (!) as in this : I shall drive and arrive there on time at 10:25 am whatever is the traffic and suddenly I had the feeling time had become elastic. lol it was pretty cool
(05-22-2021, 09:48 AM)Doomchief Wrote: I think foreseeing is the result of indigo ray center activity in the time/space with probability vortexes.
Thank you Doomchief. I had an experience like that then when one time arriving at a crossing I saw in advance a car would run through its red-light, so I accelerated to pass the crossing faster and in fact a van did brush the back of my car as it was running the red light at the avenue I was crossing on my own green light.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - Doomchief - 05-22-2021
(05-22-2021, 11:21 AM)tadeus Wrote: and there are moments where i am already dead.
As we bring into incarnation about 80% of ones total energy, the remaining 20% is always present in the time/space even if the indigo ray during the lifetime is not used.
Sometimes I meditate on the understanding that I am reviewing my experience and this very moment after my incarnation ends. Sort of greeting myself at the other side.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-22-2021
(05-22-2021, 12:30 PM)flofrog Wrote: A few years ago, as I was really busy I started to plan time (!) as in this : I shall drive and arrive there on time at 10:25 am whatever is the traffic and suddenly I had the feeling time had become elastic. lol it was pretty cool
Yes - this is a good description of the feeling.
It can appear also, when you try to combine your experience of different episodes of your life in a meditative state.
So it is not an abstract remembering and thinking, but more to see and feel all as elemental picture.
Regarding the incarnations in time/space there should be only the linearity of increasing experience with each incarnation.
It seems that from the view of time/space into space/time there is no linear time and moment, so that it is only a focus on a special time in space/time.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - jafar - 05-22-2021
(05-22-2021, 11:21 AM)tadeus Wrote:(05-22-2021, 09:52 AM)jafar Wrote: This is related to physical aging, as you aged, the frequency of your brain (during wakeful state) will also become gradually slower (and thus your reaction become slower as well). This makes you perceive hours and days gone by faster.
Then my brain must be very slow,
Brain frequency changes dynamically depending on state as well.
Meditation or sleep actually lowers down the frequency of the brain.
People refer this as Theta, Delta state of the brain.
That's why during deep meditation, time can felt as went through for only few hours in perspective of the consciousness while in space/time it has went through for many weeks.
Quote:(05-22-2021, 09:52 AM)jafar Wrote: At the moment I don't have any access to the memory of my own experience within time/space context, yet the above is my understanding based on Ra's description. They also mentioned that every one will experience time/space context after the death of physical body. (end of one physical incarnation) Time/space reality is used for 'life review and evaluation process'.
and there are moments where i am already dead.
But generally i know what you want to say. Thanks.
Exactly dead, birth, dead, birth, dead, birth.....from linearity of time perspective.
But it's not 'linear' in terms of 'time' as well. The similitude of this is like Logging On and Logging Off with an avatar inside an online game. The avatar can also be spawning in 'future' time frame or even 'past' time frame on any location / space.
No wonder many people start to think that we're living inside a 'simulated universe'.
In the time/space reality, there are many 'options' of time and one can freely move around exploring time.
In similar manner as in space/time there are many options of space and one can move around exploring space.
That's why 'prophecy / predicting the future' is a hit and miss occurrences as there are many options / branches of movement around time as well, just like there are many options of movement around space.
Ra seems to make the "Law Of Free Will" as a synonym to the "Law Of Confusion".
For example, if a german boy named Adolf was being accepted by an art school in 1908, then it will follow a different option of timeline which resulted in totally different 'world scenario' option in space/time construct.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-23-2021
(05-22-2021, 09:52 PM)jafar Wrote: Exactly dead, birth, dead, birth, dead, birth.....from linearity of time perspective.
But it's not 'linear' in terms of 'time' as well. The similitude of this is like Logging On and Logging Off with an avatar inside an online game. The avatar can also be spawning in 'future' time frame or even 'past' time frame on any location / space.
No wonder many people start to think that we're living inside a 'simulated universe'.
This concept of a free choice of time in space for a incarnation is new.
Your argumentation is logical, but are there any concrete statements that will confirm this?
It seems that an incarnation is only determinated by free will after a certain point of individual evolution.
When a soul can made a really free decision when and where to incarnate, it could cheat for example the harvest.
So it is not so "simple" and we are always One and so the individual free will is limited.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - jafar - 05-23-2021
(05-23-2021, 02:42 AM)tadeus Wrote: When a soul can made a really free decision when and where to incarnate, it could cheat for example the harvest.
So it is not so "simple" and we are always One and so the individual free will is limited.
The law of free will is paramount.
Given every entity is basically a fractal of the one infinite creator.
Will you then not want to obey your own free will?
Any 'rule' that the entity believe is true will be manifested.
As 'rule' is a form of free will as well.
If one believe there are constraints or limitation then the constraint and limitation will be manifested.
The game programmer who created the game and the player who play the game is the same person.
An example, one can choose to not to incarnate again.
Thus skipping the 'harvest' into 4th density altogether.
This is what's being called as 'mokhsa' (liberation) in hinduism or 'pari nirvana' in buddhism.
The bursting of the bubble. The 8th density, the union back with the infinite.
BUT if you believe that is 'impossible' then it will be made 'impossible' for you, by you.
Yet if one believe that is 'possible' then it will be a possibility.
You are bounded by your own regulation.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-23-2021
(05-23-2021, 09:38 AM)jafar Wrote: The law of free will is paramount.
Given every entity is basically a fractal of the one infinite creator.
Is this really a fact?
What's about beings like the Archons that are described in the Pistis Sophia?
They shall be jealous of the divine spark of the humans.
It makes sense that you have the free will not to incarnate, but how do you ensure that you can incarnate on a special place in a special time?
What is with incarnations of 2D animals?
It's possible to believe in everything, but from the the logic sight not everything is possible in every density.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - jafar - 05-23-2021
(05-23-2021, 10:06 AM)tadeus Wrote:(05-23-2021, 09:38 AM)jafar Wrote: The law of free will is paramount.
Given every entity is basically a fractal of the one infinite creator.
Is this really a fact?
What's about beings like the Archons that are described in the Pistis Sophia?
They shall be jealous of the divine spark of the humans.
It's up to you to make it a fact.
If you don't make it a fact then it will not be a fact.
What about the Archons?
If they want to be jealous then it's their choice isn't it?
And certainly it will be manifested for them as well, by them.
Just like you they also have their own free will to make whatever reality that they want to believe / imagine in.
Just like you they're also a fractal of the infinite creator.
Quote:It makes sense that you have the free will not to incarnate, but how do you ensure that you can incarnate on a special place in a special time? What is with incarnations of 2D animals?
Keep your focus on it.
What is actually "it", depends entirely on you.
If you focus on 'incarnating conditions' then you will experience such 'incarnating conditions'.
Yet "Mokhsa" and "Pari Nirvana" as discussed earlier is about setting the focus on not incarnating, on going back home, on unity and no longer incarnating.
Quote:It's possible to believe in everything, but from the the logic sight not everything is possible in every density.
When your brain is dead and so will be your logic.
Brain thus logic is among the thing that come with the avatar, when you logged in to a game.
When you've logged in to a game you've certainly clicked "accept" on the game's terms & conditions.
Although you might not diligently read all of it, let alone understand it.
As 'logic' need a set of reference / rule set to abide to.
This is what commonly known as 'soul contract'.
Everything inside the game will then be defined as 'logical', logical only inside the game, in reference to the game ruleset as agreed on terms & conditions. Is it logical to survive 6 shots from AK47? It is logical, according to the rule of Call Of Duty and only valid within Call of Duty universe.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - tadeus - 05-24-2021
(05-23-2021, 02:55 PM)jafar Wrote: It's up to you to make it a fact.
If you don't make it a fact then it will not be a fact.
What is actually "it", depends entirely on you.
I'm sorry, but this sounds like New Age mind.
But there are true aspects in it, that should be discussed in a new thread.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - jafar - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 03:10 AM)tadeus Wrote:(05-23-2021, 02:55 PM)jafar Wrote: It's up to you to make it a fact.
If you don't make it a fact then it will not be a fact.
What is actually "it", depends entirely on you.
I'm sorry, but this sounds like New Age mind.
But there are true aspects in it, that should be discussed in a new thread.
What is 'new age'?
80's pop music? Duran Duran, The Police, A-ha and the like?
The time when the sound of synthesizer rule the top of the chart?
Given it has been 40 years past, it now has become 'ancient'.
Back to the topic, the same concept can be found in a portion of ancient script bundle which is now being referred as "Veda".
And it's 4000 years old.
And Mr Ra claimed that he was 'present' in ancient egypt society during the same era.
Just like 'time', label or naming is also relative.
Something that is considered 'new' by somebody might be considered 'ancient' by somebody else.
And just like the trend in music, there is a 'cycle' where 'ancient' will become again 'new'.
As can be seen today where the sound of 'new age' is making a strong comeback to the top of the chart, brought back to life by Bruno Mars, Daft Punk and The Weekend.
Maybe instead of calling it as 'new age' it should be better labeled as "disco".
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - flofrog - 05-24-2021
Disco ? lol jafar,
but right on, back to the Vedas. So back to OP then, interesting take on linear time by Christopher Nolan too with Memento and Inception.
RE: Is time in space/time a linear construct? - Patrick - 05-24-2021
(05-24-2021, 02:10 PM)jafar Wrote: ...
What is 'new age'?
...
Tangerine Dream of course !
