Quote:Questioner: Who shall we say supervises the determination of further incarnation needs and sets up the seniority list, shall I say, for incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a query with two answers.
Firstly, there are those directly under the Guardians who are responsible for the incarnation patterns of those incarnating automatically, that is, without conscious self-awareness of the process of spiritual evolution. You may call these beings angelic if you prefer. They are, shall we say, “local” or of your planetary sphere.
The seniority of vibration is to be likened unto placing various grades of liquids in the same glass. Some will rise to the top; others will sink to the bottom. Layers and layers of entities will ensue. As harvest draws near, those filled with the most light and love will naturally, and without supervision, be in line, shall we say, for the experience of incarnation.
When the entity becomes aware in its mind/body/spirit complex totality of the mechanism for spiritual evolution it, itself, will arrange and place those lessons and entities necessary for maximum growth and expression of polarity in the incarnative experience before the forgetting process occurs. The only disadvantage of this total free will of those senior entities choosing the manner of incarnation experiences is that some entities attempt to learn so much during one incarnative experience that the intensity of catalyst disarranges the polarized entity and the experience thus is not maximally useful as intended.

17.43 Questioner: Can you explain what you mean by a seniority by vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final question of this session of working.
The seniority by vibration is the preferential treatment, shall we say, which follows the ways of the Law of One which encourages harvestable individuals, each individual becoming aware of the time of harvest and the need on a self-level to bend mind, body, and spirit towards the learn/teaching of these lessons, is given priority in order that this entity may have the best possible chance, shall we say, of succeeding in this attempt.
May we ask at this time if there are any questions?

Quote:40.16 Questioner: Just two. With respect to what you just said, would then people incarnating here by seniority of vibration who incarnate for the service-to-self path be ones who would have extreme difficulty mentally with this green-ray vibration?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. It is rather the numbers who have distracted themselves and failed to prepare for this transition yet who are somewhat susceptible to its influence who may be affected.

Quote:Questioner: Thank you. I would like to take as an example an entity, at birth, who is roughly high on the seniority list for positive polarization and possible harvestability at the end of this cycle and follow a full cycle of his experience starting before his incarnation— which body is activated, process of becoming incarnate, the activation of the third-density physical body, process as the body moves through this density and is acted upon by catalyst, and then the process of death, and the activation of the various bodies so that we make a full circuit from a point prior to incarnation back around through incarnation and death and back to that position you might say in one cycle of incarnation in this density. Could you do that for me?

Ra: I am Ra. Your query is most distorted for it assumes that creations are alike. Each mind/body/spirit complex has its own patterns of activation and its own rhythms of awakening. The important thing for harvest is the harmonious balance between the various energy centers of the mind/body/spirit complex. This is to be noted as of relative import. We grasp the thrust of your query and will make a most general answer stressing the unimportance of such arbitrary generalizations.
The entity, before incarnation, dwells in the appropriate, shall we say, place in time/space. The true color type of this location will be dependent upon the entity’s needs. Those entities, for instance which, being Wanderers, have the green, blue, or indigo true-color core of mind/body/spirit complex will have rested therein.
Entrance into incarnation requires the investment or activation of the indigo-ray or etheric body for this is the form maker. The young or small physical mind/body/spirit complex has the seven energy centers potentiated before the birthing process. There are also analogs in time/space of these energy centers corresponding to the seven energy centers in each of the seven true-color densities. Thus in the microcosm exists all the experience that is prepared. It is as though the infant contains the universe.
The patterns of activation of an entity of high seniority will undoubtedly move with some rapidity to the green-ray level which is the springboard to primary blue. There is always some difficulty in penetrating blue primary energy for it requires that which your people have in great paucity; that is, honesty. Blue ray is the ray of free communication with self and with other-self. Having accepted that an harvestable or nearly harvestable entity will be working from this green-ray springboard one may then posit that the experiences in the remainder of the incarnation will be focused upon activation of the primary blue ray of freely given communication, of indigo ray, that of freely shared intelligent energy, and if possible, moving through this gateway, the penetration of violet-ray intelligent infinity. This may be seen to be manifested by a sense of the consecrate or hallowed nature of everyday creations and activities.
Upon the bodily complex death, as you call this transition, the entity will immediately, upon realization of its state, return to the indigo form-maker body and rest therein until the proper future placement is made.
Here we have the anomaly of harvest. In harvest the entity will then transfer its indigo body into violet-ray manifestation as seen in true-color yellow. This is for the purpose of gauging the harvestability of the entity. After this anomalous activity has been carefully completed, the entity will move into indigo body again and be placed in the correct true-color locus in space/time and time/space at which time the healings and learn/teachings necessary shall be completed and further incarnation needs determined.

(05-03-2021, 11:05 PM)999 Wrote: Hi,

I feel like many life experiences for late millennials and gen Z are radically different from the experiences of early millennials, gen X, the baby boomers, and so on.

Of course, every life path is unique, and the overall design of experience is universal. So, we're all still One, and we share templates. But there's infinite room for variation within those templates.

To me, it appears that there's certain patterns of catalyst that most people born after 1990 or so deal with, a lot of them very confusing or fairly difficult.

People from previous generations might hear about the phenomena and challenges that the younger generations deal with, but might not fully understand what it's really like.

And then when you view these patterns beyond a sociological context, taking into account spiritual understandings and polarities, they become far more interesting and complex, and possibly confusing. But I think untangling these patterns could in turn produce key spiritual growth for everyone, since we're all connected to a collective consciousness.

I would like to open up discussion on these topics, and get input from others (from all ages and generations) to hear other perspectives and bridge these gaps in understanding.

I'll offer my own insights after other people respond. This is in the hopes that people will respond with their honest opinions first. I don't want to overly influence initial input.

(05-04-2021, 01:28 PM)Diana Wrote: What I will say is that we all may thank the "hippie" generation (baby boomers) for blowing open consciousness. Since, this generation has been minimized and ridiculed, but I think it was awesome and needed. The rebelliousness and consciousness that was needed to rise out of conventional society at that time was remarkable. 

(05-07-2021, 10:43 AM)sillypumpkins Wrote: i'm a bit of a youngin' (almost 23) so i can speak a little to my own personal experience, inner and outer

i can't really remember a time in my life where i wasn't jaded by the world around me. even when i was really young, something about this planet just stuck me in the wrong way. for a long time, naturally, i thought there was something wrong with me and so this led me down a path of depression, self-doubt, etc.

along with that jaded feeling, i've always felt distinctly different from everyone else. like an alien. like i was totally isolated from everything else. i had such a hard time relating to people. there was never much judgement of others, it was more of like, "why is it that i can't engage with people on the level that they would like to engage with me?" in a similar vein, my sexuality always felt really different from everyone else, especially when i was in high school. all my friends were hooking up with people and engaging in casual sex. seeing this, i felt very much like an outsider. i never really wanted to engage with someone in that way unless there was an emotional connection. casual sex just felt awkward to me in some ways. nothing wrong with it, i just didn't understand why i was so averse to it whereas my friends were all psyched on it.

i've also had such a strange relationship with money all my life. i was born into a middle-class family so we never really struggled (that i saw), but money/currency has always felt.... silly, to me. along with that, getting a job and going to school (i.e the prescribed path for many in the west) always felt so cold to me. even to this day, i don't care about money, i don't see any value in it in many ways. i am beginning to see more value in it.... still learning

in a lot of ways, i feel like i was born numb to the world. it always felt like so much (still does sometimes) that I just had my walls up for a long time for protection. i never really felt joy as a kid, the world always felt dark and scary. i feel joy now

i've never gotten the sense that my parents really see me. it feels like they speak to an idea they have of me, not the true me. so that's been a struggle as well. telling me that I gotta go to school, get a job, so i can have money and be comfortable. this always felt so absurd to me. even when i went to college, and fell into a serious episode of suicidal depression, my mom was still telling me that "sometimes we need to do things that we don't want to do." in a lot of ways it felt cruel. it really tore me up. how could this person who says they love me, encourage me to do something that is obviously so contrary to what my heart says? i have even told my mom what i want to do with my life, and her response has been "well you need to figure out something more realistic, because that's not possible." so..... in my own pursuits, i have never really gotten much help from those who, frankly, i would expect to help out. this created such a cognitive dissonance in me that i even found it difficult to pursue my passions, and began slipping into a doubtful depression. also became very resentful towards my parents

there came a time where i realized, wow, i don't even know what's "best" for me, so how could anyone else know that (if there's even anything to know there)? it was a real struggle growing up, not knowing who i was, and having everyone tell me what the "best" route would be. that was a big theme, and so i spent a few years listening to these people and taking their words for it, and ultimately i suffered greatly because of it, but came out with more wisdom and understanding.

growing up, the world felt cruel and harsh and scary. i didn't understand it. i didn't understand people. i felt alone in these feelings. i didn't understand why i had to do this and that to get something out of this life. it just never made sense on a feeling-level. likewise, hearing the news and stuff growing up, i was dumbfounded by things i saw and heard. i remember when i was probably 12 years old, i was out for a walk with my dad and i started getting really upset about something i saw in the news. something about a beheading of a homosexual in a middle eastern country maybe? i was so frustrated because i didn't understand why people would kill another just because of his sexual preference. my dad kinda just shrugged and said, "that's life"..... why are people so blase about these things?! it drove me crazy

now..... things are different. we're all just children playing on this planet, learning and growing. my parents aren't quite the menaces they used to be (in my eyes) and i look at them more as people who are just as clueless as i am. and that really helps. i still experience depression in my life, however even when i am in the deepest throws of it, i can still laugh and feel joy. so that's been new.

overall, it's been a strange journey. i felt disconnected from birth, and had to learn a lot in order to get where i am now (that is, a state of relative connectedness). i still feel very sad being here sometimes. i can't read the news very much unless i want to throw my day off. i still don't understand a lot of things. but im okay with that now cause.... that's why we're here right?

(05-08-2021, 08:25 AM)sillypumpkins Wrote: awww man, you guys are awesome. im happy y'all can relate in your own ways

@fool: if someone were to ask me if i feel like im living in a sinkhole of indifference, I would say in some ways yes and in some ways no. there's not much charge to that answer for me. (though I did have to think about it). on one hand, i often feel indifferent to my experience, and often times i find it difficult and trying to engage with the world in a meaningful way. sometimes it's easy though. like if im taking a walk in nature, i often feel "tuned in" and so there isn't much of a feeling of indifference in that sort of activity. however, when it comes to something like making art, i often experience a sort of "stuck" feeling. it just doesn't feel quite right. it feels like indifference in a way.

i resonate with what you have shared about engaging with the heart, and engaging with my experience from that place. going back to my experience with art and making things, I realized recently that i often feel like i am engaging with that process in a way that feels "lower" than the level i desire to engage with it at. my ideal is that i want to be a channel for art and music (and love in general), i want it to come through me and i want to be a messenger for that. i don't really feel like "i" make art, i just feel like a portal for it. that's my gut feeling. that's the ideal. on the other hand, the way i engage with art feels like "I" am that higher power and "I" am manipulating these lower energies in order to get what "I" want. it feels fundamentally all wrong to me and contrary to what my feeling is (that im just a crystal for music to shine through).

this is something i've struggled with for a while so i really appreciate you engaging with me on this topic. i know you're not belittling me

(05-08-2021, 09:06 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: So even if you can't get anything useful done to transform the Earth, your senior brothers and sisters have used this energy input of yours to do much and many projects. And these things will get easier over time, as I promised.

(08-02-2021, 02:34 AM)999 Wrote: Hi, I meant to respond earlier, but I've been somewhat overwhelmed and collecting my thoughts.

The reality for most people around this age is a constant state of instability, insecurity, nihilism, and absurdity. We're all united in a collective consciousness, and I know just about everyone's going through it to some extent, but I think we face some unique circumstances that don't have much precedent elsewhere in the universe.

I think certain memes pretty accurately convey what it's like growing up as a Millennial / Zoomer.



This isn't to idealize past generations, marriage, or homeownership. The flipside of our collective disillusionment with these institutions is the knowledge that the happily ever after fairy tales aren't a reality. There's more to life than just trying to have a house with a white picket fence, reproduce, and die.  For some people, these are ideal circumstances to dig deeper beyond the illusion, out of necessity. But in a lot of cases, kids are too overwhelmed and paralyzed to even start. It's easier to just say, 'f*** everything.' That's often true even for people with spiritual awareness as well. There's just days where we don't feel like trying.

To be 100% real, I think that the conditions on Earth are unprecedented, and The Confederation is unprepared to deal with the realities that many of us face. I'm inferring from both the Ra and Q'uo channelings that several different races co-existing on the same planet (primarily consisting of different soul groups who've failed to harvest on their home planets) is quite rare. It also seems like the existence of our specific type of monetary / financial system is unnatural. Homosexuality / alternative sexualities are also implied to be uncommon on most planets.

So, we have at least 3 controversial major social phenomena that massively impact the majority of the population at this point, which are especially of concern for the current youth:

1. Racism and Racial Bias
2. Late-Stage Capitalism
3. Alternative Sexualities

And there's definitely more than this.

And to assess the situation as realistically as possible, it seems like nobody, not even The Confederation, or many positive teachers, actually have practical experience, or answers, regarding any of this. The Confederation themselves admit to naivete and fallibility at times (although I do recognize the immense value of their contributions, and I think their teachings can absolutely be applied, but they need to be adapted).

My intent isn't to speak from a position of doom. In a sense, we're pioneers, entering uncharted territory, providing a valuable service for The Creator by learning lessons that have never been learned before. Sometimes, it's exciting, and sometimes, we can find hilarity in the absurdity. But the reality is, most of the time, it feels like we're on a ship with no rudder, and even across the vast cosmos, a ton of guidance feels lost in translation. I know many of these positive principles are ultimately the answer, but the practical reality of adapting them to our predicaments is often very messy.

On the bright side, this is an excellent forge for balancing compassion and wisdom, developing finesse in a positive sense. It's like we need to develop a cosmic version of street smarts just to survive in this era, while maintaining any type of dignity or personal values whatsoever. This could be seen as a great opportunity with a steep learning curve.

And I know that all souls get infinite tries, so no matter how many times some may fail or suffer, it's inevitable that everyone will eventually reach 7th density, perfect harmony, unity, and beyond. But I'm just speaking on how it feels in the moment. There's days where everything feels absolutely f*****, and there's no adults (Earthly or cosmic) that really have the answers. So, we have to find our own.

(08-02-2021, 04:51 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: You are 100% correct. I don't know about the sexuality thing, though. It seems quite insignificant in the grander scheme of things. I can't see why I or anyone else should really care about what other consenting adults are doing.

(08-02-2021, 03:31 PM)999 Wrote:

(08-02-2021, 04:51 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: You are 100% correct. I don't know about the sexuality thing, though. It seems quite insignificant in the grander scheme of things. I can't see why I or anyone else should really care about what other consenting adults are doing.

My reference isn't to the sexual activities themselves, it's about the maelstrom of political furor around them from all sides. There's the cancellation phenomenon: people deemed homophobic are at risk of being excommunicated, being fired from their jobs, shamed on the internet in front of millions of people, abandoned by their friends and family. This is one of the number one topics of concern for this generation.

As a racial minority, I understand the arguments for and against cancel culture from multiple sides. On one side, there's people who say that it's just people who've bullied and discriminated against their whole lives finally standing up for themselves. On the other side, there's people arguing that it's thought policing and restricting freedom of speech. This is just a surface level description, and discussing the topic in its entirety would be an entirely different topic. Each situation needs to be evaluated on a case-by-base basis.

But I'm bringing up the general example to illustrate the complexities of positive and negative energy here, and how intense it is for this generation. One person says a gay slur, another person gets them fired from their job. There's situations where people can be ostracized based on allegations alone, without evidence. Where's the positivity, where's the negativity? And then this happens in a context where there are huge social, political, and corporate movements in the background of all of this. The implications of polarity become far more confusing.

I don't know your age, but I do know that most people on this forum are in their 30s, 40s, or older. So I'm not trying to single you out, I'm trying to illustrate how many well-meaning people don't get what it's actually like to be 20-something, or a teenager right now, and how hard it is to remain positive in this extreme social chaos.

But I'm speaking about this because I want to bridge gaps, and maybe that will help members of different generations understand each others' issues. This could help us reach another level of harmony, and more productive levels of communication, possibly even rippling across the collective unconsciousness.

Ra 20.17 Wrote:...The lessening of the life span was due primarily to the lack of the building up of positive orientation. When there is no progress those conditions which grant progress are gradually lost. This is one of the difficulties of remaining unpolarized. The chances, shall we say, of progress become steadily less.

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2008/2008_0315.aspx Q`uo Wrote:Now, to respond to your query on the nature of the call. When one of your human babies awakens in the night and discovers that it is hungry, wet and alone, it cries. It calls out in the only way it knows for help. Blessedly, in almost every case, the parents come and minister to that child, feeding it, drying it, getting a new, dry diaper on it, and cuddling it until it naturally goes back to sleep, content, knowing that it is loved and that all of its needs are met.

Each of you is, spiritually speaking, an infant. And you are crying in the night. You are crying for spiritual food. You are crying to be cleansed of the grime of confusion, sorrow and suffering. And you are crying because you are alone and you do not feel loved.

As entities move through the third density, they begin to become able to address their own needs. As they awaken and become spiritual toddlers, or spiritual preschoolers, they begin to choose to feed themselves heavenly food, to cleanse themselves from spiritually degrading ideas and concepts, and to win through to the knowledge that they are not alone. Because of the intense confusion among your peoples throughout your third-density experience, for the most part entities have not matured beyond the crib. They cry out in the darkness and our hearts go out to them.

There is a great desire on our parts to reach out the hand to steady that baby, to feed that baby, to give that sweet infant soul a new start, a clean diaper, a bellyful of love, and a good rock in the cradle.

We hope that we have become more mature as those who offer help, as we have experimented with ways to answer that call. And we can certainly say that those of planet Earth have begun to become more mature, as it should be. Many are those who have moved from the cradle to preschool, to grade school, to middle school, and finally are ready to graduate third density on time, mature at last, knowing that the food of love is the food for them; knowing that they wish to turn from anything that is not truly love and light; knowing that they are not alone. For as they love, so have they been loved a hundredfold, a thousandfold, overwhelmingly.

The hard part for entities is that first waking up. And it is this effort to which we have come in response. Our love remains unblemished. How far we have fallen short of perfection in our dealings with your planetary population is unknown to us, but we are sure that there are many, many mistakes that we have made for which we humbly ask your forgiveness.

My vote is cast.

(08-02-2021, 06:40 PM)999 Wrote: The entire situation is Kafkaesque. It feels like a design flaw in the universe, as if this is all a computer program, but there's some looping glitch that nobody has yet figured out how to resolve.

(08-02-2021, 03:31 PM)999 Wrote:

(08-02-2021, 04:51 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: You are 100% correct. I don't know about the sexuality thing, though. It seems quite insignificant in the grander scheme of things. I can't see why I or anyone else should really care about what other consenting adults are doing.

My reference isn't to the sexual activities themselves, it's about the maelstrom of political furor around them from all sides. There's the cancellation phenomenon: people deemed homophobic are at risk of being excommunicated, being fired from their jobs, shamed on the internet in front of millions of people, abandoned by their friends and family. This is one of the number one topics of concern for this generation. You've probably heard of it, but I don't know if you know how intense it actually is.

As a racial minority, I understand the arguments for and against cancel culture from multiple sides. On one side, there's people who say that it's just people who've bullied and discriminated against their whole lives finally standing up for themselves. On the other side, there's people arguing that it's thought policing and restricting freedom of speech. This is just a surface level description, and discussing the topic in its entirety would be an entirely different topic. Each situation needs to be evaluated on a case-by-base basis.

But I'm bringing up the general example to illustrate the complexities of positive and negative energy here, and how intense it is for this generation. One person says a gay slur, another person gets them fired from their job. There's situations where people can be ostracized based on allegations alone, without evidence. Where's the positivity, where's the negativity? And then this happens in a context where there are huge social, political, and corporate movements in the background of all of this. The implications of polarity become far more confusing.

I don't know your age, but I do know that most people on this forum are in their 30s, 40s, or older. So I'm not trying to single you out, I'm trying to illustrate how many well-meaning people don't get what it's actually like to be 20-something, or a teenager right now, and how hard it is to remain positive in this extreme social chaos.

But I'm speaking about this because I want to bridge gaps, and maybe that will help members of different generations understand each others' issues. This could help us reach another level of harmony, and more productive levels of communication, possibly even rippling across the collective unconsciousness.

(08-02-2021, 03:31 PM)999 Wrote:

(08-02-2021, 04:51 AM)KaliSouth Wrote: You are 100% correct. I don't know about the sexuality thing, though. It seems quite insignificant in the grander scheme of things. I can't see why I or anyone else should really care about what other consenting adults are doing.

My reference isn't to the sexual activities themselves, it's about the maelstrom of political furor around them from all sides. There's the cancellation phenomenon: people deemed homophobic are at risk of being excommunicated, being fired from their jobs, shamed on the internet in front of millions of people, abandoned by their friends and family. This is one of the number one topics of concern for this generation. You've probably heard of it, but I don't know if you know how intense it actually is.

As a racial minority, I understand the arguments for and against cancel culture from multiple sides. On one side, there's people who say that it's just people who've bullied and discriminated against their whole lives finally standing up for themselves. On the other side, there's people arguing that it's thought policing and restricting freedom of speech. This is just a surface level description, and discussing the topic in its entirety would be an entirely different topic. Each situation needs to be evaluated on a case-by-base basis.

But I'm bringing up the general example to illustrate the complexities of positive and negative energy here, and how intense it is for this generation. One person says a gay slur, another person gets them fired from their job. There's situations where people can be ostracized based on allegations alone, without evidence. Where's the positivity, where's the negativity? And then this happens in a context where there are huge social, political, and corporate movements in the background of all of this. The implications of polarity become far more confusing.

I don't know your age, but I do know that most people on this forum are in their 30s, 40s, or older. So I'm not trying to single you out, I'm trying to illustrate how many well-meaning people don't get what it's actually like to be 20-something, or a teenager right now, and how hard it is to remain positive in this extreme social chaos.

But I'm speaking about this because I want to bridge gaps, and maybe that will help members of different generations understand each others' issues. This could help us reach another level of harmony, and more productive levels of communication, possibly even rippling across the collective unconsciousness.