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BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - TheSeekersLighthouse - 04-08-2021
So this is a post I am writing because it is a big thing for me, Ra's take on it, my take on what Ra said, my spiritual guides take on it etc.
So I have been strongly into BDSM for years, as the submissive role. Apart from extremes, I have tried it all. The thing about BDSM is it is *consensual* and in any sane BDSM relationship, consent is maintained.
Polyamory, it is mentioned that monogamy is the preferred orientation, but that it is not uncommon during fourth-density to explore polyamory and in some cases, it may be key to opening the heart in some of the Ra/Quo material. This interests me because I, my husband, my boyfriend, and some friends all know we are of the same 'fourth-density social memory complex. Independently of Ra, a psychic actually picked up on this, saying we are of fourth-level evolved.
My spirit guide explained, that on our primary world and where we moved to, that polyamory was the norm. It took me years to realise it, but that I am poly. And I have never felt so fulfilled than being able to express that.
I have been writing a novel series, and I wrote a character who dates two poly ones. Ended up dating a guy with the same name, names of friends, looks, eye colour, medical conditions, and history, and job role of parents. I showed him the timestamped onedrive upload of Book IV in my series, a book I will soon be announced here in fact. He was stunned, but both of us had past-life memories surface very quickly, and we established we are part of the same soul group and social memory complex.
My husband is mostly vanilla and open-minded. My boyfriend and dominant is heavily into spirituality and even has gotten into the Ra material. We both take dominant/submissive roles, he as the dominant, me as the submissive. Outside of kink, we love being romantic, sharing meals, helping a homeless person, meditation, gaming and whatever else. He also understands sexual energy transfer, and after a BDSM 'scene', a LOT of cuddling/loving takes place, including the concept of 'aftercare'. Everything is consensual, and BDSM increases trust, MASSIVELY. The poly is V-Poly and not a triad.
Speaking with fifth-density guidance (who seem to be known as 'the wise ones' in my SMC), it seems that later in higher densities monogamy is the most common configuration, but that there are entities who will polarise efficiently with a poly set up. Ra was from venus, my guidance is from well outside this system.
The concept of BDSM for me has lead to a massive opening of the heart as it creates a LOT of trust, as when someone ties you up, and you hand 'power' to them, you are putting yourself in a state of total trust. It safely lets you explore any aspects in a sane and consensual way. And after a scene, the concept of 'aftercare' involves a lot of cuddles, support, communication and love shared, if done properly. Especially if done by two people who know how a sexual energy transfer takes place, and trust (And honest, communication, blue ray) are also used. I have also seen an indigo transfer happen when during aftercare, both partners were able to meditate together and propel themselves to a higher realm.
I can also see how it could be used for negative polarity, and I know of one dominant guy I met on the scene years ago when I was 19 and dated twice, who told me his goal is to turn his guy into little more than an object, both in/outside of kink for his own use. He knew of the two paths and admitted polarising negatively was his sole goal, and he gives readings to people and manipulates the content to keep them buying more, he openly admitted this to me because we had gone on a second date and id expressed my positive path desires. P.S a + and - having sex as we did before that conversation was probably the type of transfer Ra was talking about, that it created a massive mess as neither of us realised the polarity of the other, and it was that which lead me to never have sex on a first date. He didn't succeed in conquest. It messed him up mentally big time.
I also like BDSM to set goals. For instance, I have avoided MANY addictions such as drink, drugs, etc in my life. But Porn... a big problem and a spiritual problem(to me, as it was wasting all my sexual energy on that). So my BDSM life involves a kink known as 'chastity', where I asked my dominant to lock me in one if I had watched porn. I have been clean for longer than I have been in a long time. The addiction was awful because I would spend hours on pornhub. So I would hand my dominant the key, and he would unlock me IF I had not watched porn, as we had both agreed. Again, all consensual and has had a NET POSITIVE effect, and it has improved my focus/concentration on the loving aspects of sex and not porn which is devoid of that.
I do think there ARE some things that can happen that may not be the most 'positive', but it is all consensual and free will is preserved. For example a submissive being on their knees as an ashtray. But it is fun, and enjoyable and consensual. I have found net positive transfers possible in BDSM, but I also think some aspects may not be 'positive'. But in day do day life, if you are 51% service to others (This includes radiating your true being, I think) you are good. You will never be 100% light while here, not possible in third density. Some parts of this are pleasure/play that as long as free will is upheld and not manipulated into giving consent, I don't see how it could be harmful to a positive path unless you seek to use BDSM to control. Generally, you always play with a safeword. I can imagine the consent differentiates negative domination, as I doubt a negative entity would let an entity out of restraints even if they wanted to withdraw consent, as they will have achieved power over another entity.
As for polyamory, for me it has resulted in much more forward spiritual growth than monogamy did, and my spirit guide told me why. All my friends think it is more suitable to me. And I have shared love, joy, spirituality etc in equal measure with both partners. No jealousy, total communication and trust, and no secrets. Love that is given is given freely, and not on the 'condition' that I only share 'love' with the one person. I think that as long as one is honest and doesn't cheat/be deceptive behind a partner's back, all is good. And my own spirit guides confirmed, at least where I am, positive spiritual growth is more than possible. If the book is anything to go by, and my guides confirmed it, being poly was a pre-incarnative decision to have non-monogamy wiring. And there are actually genes, a dopamine receptor that makes non-monogamy more likely, and causes travel/wanderlust. My family (And me) did a LOT of travelling, mine limited only by health. Dopamine receptor DRD4 7A can actually be tested for. I chose this configuration pre-incarnatively, and in the last year, I have learned to love/embrace it, and have never felt happier.
Note that in a poly form, it is still possible to 'cheat', which is breaking agreed boundaries of a relationship/deception to one or both partners. Such as I have agreed that outside of my husband and boyfriend, sexual excursions outside are limited to a certain quantity in a given timeframe (to preserve more energy for those two), with protection used. The main thing is honesty/openness and love is given, that is our take on the matter, and since discovering/accepting I am wired poly, it has propelled me onto an even more loving path. And for those other kink friends, it is so fun to be able to connect on the deepest levels possible now and again. I have also found people on the kink scene to be well more open to possibilities 'beyond this world' than those I dated normally. It was one thing that really drew me to the BDSM scene on top of BDSM when dating in general.
Ra's/Quo's material I still think is valid, but their mention that it is for each entity to determine what enables them to share the most love, and for some that will be non-monogamy. It is for me, and has been in prior fourth-density incarnations, and is in my current third-density one. Whether that changes or not as I evolve is anyone guess, but in this moment/life, poly is for me the most fulfilling.
Hope this gives some insight, i wrote it out as passing thoughts.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Minyatur - 04-08-2021
The only mention of monogamy in the material seems to say that some of our second density fauna have instinctually imprinted this process and that it is not part of the conscious nature of many of our people. So I don't think it says anything bad about it, unless I missed something.
For BDSM, I would agree that it can be useful and positive, but just note that it always highlights unhealed portions of the self. So in a way, the question that came to my mind was if one partaking in these things is open to outgrow them in due time?
Also, although it can be consensual I think it is part of the negative polarity to manipulate others into submitting to them rather than force them. So, the negative polarity does work with another's free will by manipulating the other-self into a role that serves them and keeps them there. So it goes back to the above, that if the relationship is positive and healing, based for both sides on acceptance, then the need of these practices would tend to fall away as they stop being needed.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Diana - 04-08-2021
Hi TheSeekersLighthouse.
I have some thoughts on your post. First, here is the quote Minyatur mentioned from Ra regarding monogamous relationships:
Quote:99.10 ▶ Questioner: In that case I will just ask one additional short question as we terminate for this session. May I ask if the Logos of this system planned for the mating process as possibly depicted in Card Six— I don’t know if this is related— by some type of DNA imprinting as has been studied by our science. In many second-density creatures seem to have some sort of imprinting that creates a lifetime mating relationship and I was wondering if this was designed by the Logos for that particular mechanism and if it was also carried into third density?
Ra: I am Ra. There are some of your second-density fauna which have instinctually imprinted monogamous mating processes. The third-density physical vehicle which is the basic incarnational tool of manifestation upon your planet arose from entities thusly imprinted, all the aforesaid being designed by the Logos.
The free will of third-density entities is far stronger than the rather mild carryover from second-density DNA encoding and it is not part of the conscious nature of many of your mind/body/spirit complexes to be monogamous due to the exercise of free will. However, as has been noted there are many signposts in the deep mind indicating to the alert adept the more efficient use of catalyst. As we have said, the Logos of your peoples has a bias towards kindness.
So you see from the quote that Ra says that 3rd-density entities have very little influence, including DNA, from 2nd-density regarding monogamy.
I am really not sure, but I think those of Ra, when they mentioned "kindness," may have been referring to the idea that monogamous relationships, being simpler, do not involve the complications born of distortions within a self, such as insecurities or childhood wounds of abandonment or other such things. Perhaps the kindness is to sacrifice a bit of free will for the sake of loving another person and not sharing the sexual and emotional energy with another. I would love to hear others' thoughts on that part of the quote.
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My thoughts on monogamy, polyamory, marriage, etc. (which are my thoughts only and not meant to supersede anyone else's ideas):
I don't really align with monogamy, polyamory, or any defined and labeled relationship between people. For me, a relationship is what it is, and that derives from who the people are who are involved in it, where they are at consciously, where they are at in the growth process. Your committed relationship involving 3 people+ to me is no different than a monogamous relationship, as it has stated boundaries. I like the idea of no boundaries. For example, I have been in longterm relationships, but they did not last because I was committed to making them last, they lasted because for that time I and the other person were in alignment. On the other hand, that is not to say I did not work to understand, be kind to, be honest with, and honor the other person.
Monogamy, or any relationship with set rules and boundaries, often involves staying with a person(s) out of a commitment, which may outlast its usefulness. This to me is not being of any sort of service to the other person. To me, you stay with a person not because you have to (commitment, rules, contracts) but because you want to. To me, that is unconditional love—allowing self and the other-self free will while at the same time directing your sexuality, heart, and honesty toward that person in its full expression for that person, asking nothing in return. That is the problem I see with marriage and committed relationships—they seek outcome.
The self, in this reality, as I see it, must have the freedom to move through life with the greatest opportunity for experience and growth. Therefore, acceptance of self, the self's desires and prompts, the widest view possible of all there is to experience, while balancing this with self-honesty, discernment, detachment from outcome, and a sense that all life is sacred and worthy of love, is the lens through which I view relationship.
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My thoughts on BDSM:
I have a good friend who has been in this culture for many years, and she is also very spiritually minded. I am very familiar with the culture. I even helped her edit some books she wrote on the subject and make some videos for them. I found her accounts interesting and informative, since the typical narrative in popular media was mostly skewed on the subject.
I think for some this lifestyle is a way to develop trust. But it must be said that it is about control. There is no getting around the idea that the Dom/Domme controls the sub, and the sub controls the scene (in the contract and in the safe word). I also get the idea of subspace, wherein a person can get into a sort of meditative space. So, there can be aspects of this play that raise the practitioners into a higher level of experience than is otherwise done with some normal sexual encounters.
Even though this play is consensual, and it may have more consent and direct honesty than an average encounter between traditional partners, it is still based on contrivance and control. By saying this, I do not in any way mean to judge BDSM. But I do think at some point, that the acquisition and realization of trust would be complete, and might flow from the self naturally—from self-knowledge, self-assurance, and self-growth.
One more thought I have on sexuality in general. The way I interpret a sexual-energy transfer is that this exchange happens from the heart, and the physical body and its functions are incidental and just what is of use here in this reality to accomplish its full expression. In other words, instead of starting with the idea of sex to express love to another, I see it more as starting from the heart, and then expressing it (as one of various ways) through a sexual encounter with the added effect of offering different energies to each other deriving from that act.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - rva_jeremy - 04-08-2021
This Hatonn excerpt is addressing divorce, but it would apply to polyamory as well, I think.
Quote:What we wish to speak on, with compassion, is the subject of karma. You must understand, my friends, that when, within your holy works, it is recommended that marriage, as it is called among your peoples, be obtained throughout one lifetime, it is recommended for the reason that it is likelier that you will correctly apply yourself to your karma if you have a controlled circumstance throughout one experience. It is likelier, if you engage in several karmic relationships within one experience, that there will be unsatisfied karma.
Now, my friends, it is in no way necessary that because you have had an experience with more than one karmic partner, that you have in any way failed to satisfy the karma with that partner. It is simply more difficult to treat more people rightly than it is to treat one person rightly. This in a recommendation that has been chiseled upon your planet into what is known as law. Behind the “law” is the compassion of an all-loving Father.
In any experience with any karmic relationship, it is necessary within that relationship that your actions be founded in love. If an action which is founded in love results in the termination of that relationship, your karma has in no way been dissatisfied. If you remain with one person and yet your actions are not founded in love, then your karma won’t be satisfied.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Black Dragon - 04-08-2021
Hard for me to answer this one definitively or objectively. I'd say it comes down to true intent. If these activities are a fun game you can play and its about the greater experience of playing rolls rather than some type of repressed shadow high from controlling or being controlled, I'd say it's ok. If both parties maintain love and respect for themselves and their partner while playing the roles and have fun without getting invested in the domination aspect in a distorted or disrespectful way. Nobody from the outside looking in can make that call or distinction.
Polyamory, I had some inherent aversion to the idea as a child and teen and was very fixed on the concept of the one perfect mate. It was probably a bit of a holdover because my SMC is/was probably more monogamist oriented. I makes sense, because supposedly many cultures in Orion are(or were at one time in their development) pretty hardcore monogamist on the concept of one perfect mate you can trust/confide/be vulnerable with above anyone else in society. I've expanded my viewpoint a lot since my late teens and early adulthood, but also simplified it. "Do what works for you" is the new mantra here. It's a combo between what you desire from life and where life takes you and other factors making such a decision, but ultimately loving people isn't wrong.
Porn is like McDonalds French fries. "Tastes good", but is really kind of crap, makes you feel sluggish. Almost all of it, especially the really hardcore stuff that keeps getting crazier and more desensitized, is fairly low vibration. Something I'm in the process of changing in my own life. I'd say if somebody must use porn as a visual aid to stick to simple and tasteful nude modeling pictures that are a lot more respectful and less draining.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - zedro - 04-08-2021
Its all just theater, I don't see why we need to implicate polarity discussions into everything like it's the new moral code.
Kids play cowboys and Indians, adults play sexy prison guard and inmate, there's no particular difference in the games as they don't by themselves inherently convey the true nature of the relationships, with themselves and towards the other. That is why the religious fundamentalist views are so damaging, because it puts all the emphasis on the contrivance, and bypasses the substance.
But I do agree with the above, the games we choose to play can be indicative of our blockages and distortions, and investing too hard into ever increasing theatrics may be therapy, or it may be the drug to mask the issues needing resolution. I've only witnessed this scene from the outside, but what I've observed from the hardcore enthusiasts is not the need to control others, but their rather emotional environment. Its not unique in that way compared to other 'personality types', just another expression it.
Polyamory is another subject, but I feel that true polyamory is actually very rare, and most is more 'pseudo’ (aka 'open relationships'), being just multiple sexual partners without the intense 'true love' exchange amongst all equally.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ymarsakar - 04-08-2021
Welcome to earth, 4th density many love cousins.
On earth, joseph smith or rather brigham young wad able to create a poly system that worked. But only because love united the community in spirit.
The kindness of the logos may be the desire not to see anyone alone, as people will gravitate towards those higher on the status ranking.
It makes sense for 4th density to want to experiment a lot with love stuff. In order to graduate, there are many sub densities of love as it relates to people that is mysterious. Learning this qualifies you for 5th density graduation.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Patrick - 04-08-2021
(04-08-2021, 02:54 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: ...especially the really hardcore stuff that keeps getting crazier and more desensitized, is fairly low vibration...
It can be a really useful tool when you're in need of rooting yourself back down though.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ymarsakar - 04-08-2021
High density souls have very strange practices that 3rd density lines should consider warily
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Black Dragon - 04-08-2021
(04-08-2021, 03:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(04-08-2021, 02:54 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: ...especially the really hardcore stuff that keeps getting crazier and more desensitized, is fairly low vibration...
It can be a really useful tool when you're in need of rooting yourself back down though.
Oh yeah better to use something like that as a shadow outlet/grounding tool/self exploration. Since it isn't destructive and doesn't infringe anyone's free will, it's better not to control or repress those urges and just play them out as long as they are useful. Those avenues are certainly ok to understand ourselves and relate to those aspects of humanity, to empathize with the distortions of both the people performing the porn and others watching it.
There's just better expenditures of energy, it tends to leave me feeling sluggish to watch "junk porn". Other than that the main problems are if it becomes a need/addiction or if somebody is consuming porn made without full consent or under coercion/duress. Or worse. This sketchy stuff will have an extra low vibration and consuming it knowingly in full knowledge will have karma.
All those things considered, falling into shame or guilt about the porn use is like the "two punch" that hurts even more than the one punch of giving into temptation. Those shame and guilt vibrations are actually worse than the lust vibrations/porn itself.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Black Dragon - 04-08-2021
Patrick are you aware of a series of video games and movies called Silent Hill? It's not for everyone but something I've enjoyed and learned from immensely. Seems like you would really appreciate its beauty. A real deep dive into the shadow.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - zedro - 04-08-2021
(04-08-2021, 03:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(04-08-2021, 02:54 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: ...especially the really hardcore stuff that keeps getting crazier and more desensitized, is fairly low vibration...
It can be a really useful tool when you're in need of rooting yourself back down though.
Was this a spicy 'double entendre'?
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Patrick - 04-08-2021
(04-08-2021, 04:01 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: Patrick are you aware of a series of video games and movies called Silent Hill? It's not for everyone but something I've enjoyed and learned from immensely. Seems like you would really appreciate its beauty. A real deep dive into the shadow.
Nope, was unaware of that one. I'll certainly check it out. Thanks!
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-10-2021
(04-08-2021, 03:07 PM)zedro Wrote: Its all just theater, I don't see why we need to implicate polarity discussions into everything like it's the new moral code.Sexy prison guard and inmate...lol.
Kids play cowboys and Indians, adults play sexy prison guard and inmate, there's no particular difference in the games as they don't by themselves inherently convey the true nature of the relationships, with themselves and towards the other. That is why the religious fundamentalist views are so damaging, because it puts all the emphasis on the contrivance, and bypasses the substance.
But I do agree with the above, the games we choose to play can be indicative of our blockages and distortions, and investing too hard into ever increasing theatrics may be therapy, or it may be the drug to mask the issues needing resolution. I've only witnessed this scene from the outside, but what I've observed from the hardcore enthusiasts is not the need to control others, but their rather emotional environment. Its not unique in that way compared to other 'personality types', just another expression it.
Polyamory is another subject, but I feel that true polyamory is actually very rare, and most is more 'pseudo’ (aka 'open relationships'), being just multiple sexual partners without the intense 'true love' exchange amongst all equally.
..and agree for the rest of it.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-10-2021
(04-08-2021, 03:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(04-08-2021, 02:54 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: ...especially the really hardcore stuff that keeps getting crazier and more desensitized, is fairly low vibration...
It can be a really useful tool when you're in need of rooting yourself back down though.
So as long as the entity does not get lost in these lower worlds of rooting back down all the way to the red and orange ray.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-10-2021
Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.
The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-10-2021
(04-08-2021, 04:03 PM)zedro Wrote:LOL(04-08-2021, 03:42 PM)Patrick Wrote:(04-08-2021, 02:54 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: ...especially the really hardcore stuff that keeps getting crazier and more desensitized, is fairly low vibration...
It can be a really useful tool when you're in need of rooting yourself back down though.
Was this a spicy 'double entendre'?
:idea:
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-10-2021
...And now we all know more than we did about each other. Especially Patrick through a small, yet powerful Freudian slip.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - zedro - 04-10-2021
OMG lol
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Patrick - 04-10-2021
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Jade - 04-13-2021
According to Ra, we're talking about a metaphysical energy that most of us will not easily understand. If you desire to be controlled or to control while in a sexual engagement, this will block the green-ray energy transfer. Many things that are lower chakra distortions feel good and right, and of course can also contain love because all contains love. But a green ray transfer is not possible while engaging in dom/sub sexual dynamics - and in fact the relationship you speak of (where there is love/cuddling after) sounds a lot like trauma bonding, which is how abusers control their victims. I know this is different than an actual abusive relationship, my point is that the energy dynamic is very similar and it conditions us to maintain that dom/sub dynamic, whether it's consensual and pleasurable for both or not.
For a green ray sexual energy transfer, both partners need to be equal and equally giving and receiving. Neither person can be seen as an object to plunder. I don't think participating in BDSM makes someone a negative entity or anything like that, but there is a special power in the green ray energy transfer, which moves one into the realm of high sexual magic. There is of course also negative sexual magic, which is why I personally have avoided any semblance of dom/sub energy in intercourse since reading the material, as I don't want to be an unwitting conduit for that type of energy, and want to cultivate my ability to ground positive/green ray energy into this plane.
No judgement. To each their own. I don't eschew anyone their form of pleasure, if all beings involved are consenting and happy. This is just my understanding of the message that Ra transmitted.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ymarsakar - 04-13-2021
I don't have any strong impressions about dominant/submissive dynamics, nor really all that much interest in it for energy transfer or magick.
Why a 4th density SMC or civ might be interested in incarnating into the 3rd density to try this stuff out... that sounds a lot more interesting and challenging. If they feel there is something to acquire, what is it? 4.3 graduation? 4.4 graduation? What is it, I wonder.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - meadow-foreigner - 04-14-2021
(04-13-2021, 06:44 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: I don't have any strong impressions about dominant/submissive dynamics, nor really all that much interest in it for energy transfer or magick.
Why a 4th density SMC or civ might be interested in incarnating into the 3rd density to try this stuff out... that sounds a lot more interesting and challenging. If they feel there is something to acquire, what is it? 4.3 graduation? 4.4 graduation? What is it, I wonder.
Any type of energy transfer may be correlated with sex. To be more technical, a transfer is always biunivocal (inwards and outwards), so there is always a giving and receiving.
When there's a mostly univocal type of energy transfer, the system is not sustainable for long, and soon the mostly giving part will deplete itself, and the mostly receiving part will collapse into its own inability to balance itself in the giving and receiving.
This collapse will ultimately lead to the mostly receiving being's dissolution. As a cosmic referential, check black holes.
Such may be the final destination of the negative path, if the beings on said path insist in not balance themselves.
This is why at mid-sixth density the paths unify into Oneness because such realization occurs. Also note that your Higher Self is at mid-sixth density, and you incarnated at 3D for a reason.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - unity100 - 04-17-2021
BDSM is inherently a negative format. Its based on control and dominance. There is no way to frame it as positive.
Entities may engage in such roleplaying to satisfy the kinks they have and this may lead to positive results, but that does not make BDSM a positive format for anything.
These kinds of things could be done when an immense desire from on the side of the entity exists to experience them, but otherwise they may be better 'imagined' per what Ra says in the material about using imagination to 'experience' potentially depolarizing or unsupportable things.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - dreamoftheiris - 04-17-2021
I do think it's possible to love two or more people at the same time, but I find monogamy to be the best way for me. I think sharing your energy across many different people only leads to blockages/confusion.
I tend to agree with unity100 that BDSM is a distortion grown from a blockage in orange ray. The fact that you can use that to open your heart is great - however if it's something you still find necessary to do, then that to me indicates some blocks in that area.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Patrick - 04-17-2021
(04-17-2021, 06:04 PM)dreamoftheiris Wrote: I do think it's possible to love two or more people at the same time...
Oh yes! But personally I find it very confusing so I prefer to focus on a single person. That romantic love is still there for the others, but I am not acting on it. I just remain friend with these other women. I think they know how I feel, but they also know that nothing is going to happen, so it keeps it simple for everyone.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - AnthroHeart - 04-17-2021
Well my lovers are higher density, and I have like 4 of them.
But it's just me. Took me 20 years of hard work to be able to make this happen,
so I don't just want to settle down with one and lose out on opportunity with others.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - flofrog - 04-17-2021
(04-17-2021, 07:40 PM)Patrick Wrote:(04-17-2021, 06:04 PM)dreamoftheiris Wrote: I do think it's possible to love two or more people at the same time...
Oh yes! But personally I find it very confusing so I prefer to focus on a single person. That romantic love is still there for the others, but I am not acting on it. I just remain friend with these other women. I think they know how I feel, but they also know that nothing is going to happen, so it keeps it simple for everyone.
Simplicity is easier isn’t it ?
. But I agree on how the love stays on for others...
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-18-2021
(04-17-2021, 10:49 PM)flofrog Wrote:(04-17-2021, 07:40 PM)Patrick Wrote:(04-17-2021, 06:04 PM)dreamoftheiris Wrote: I do think it's possible to love two or more people at the same time...
Oh yes! But personally I find it very confusing so I prefer to focus on a single person. That romantic love is still there for the others, but I am not acting on it. I just remain friend with these other women. I think they know how I feel, but they also know that nothing is going to happen, so it keeps it simple for everyone.
Simplicity is easier isn’t it ?
Simplicity is...simple. I like simple.
On the other hand, while I am not into these sort of bedroom games, I can understand why couples would use it for deep exploration of self, the sexual self, the ideas that govern slave and master. Perhaps it is leaning toward the negative as the Ra Material does clearly states that it is an orange ray manifestation. But, this ray in our culture is sorely misunderstood by many, even ourselves. And for as many people there are, there are roles for us to play. Thank goodness Our loving Creator is benevolent while we work out our distortions and misunderstandings.
RE: BDSM / Polyamory And The Positive Path - Sena - 06-19-2021
(04-08-2021, 09:35 AM)TheSeekersLighthouse Wrote: And there are actually genes, a dopamine receptor that makes non-monogamy more likely, and causes travel/wanderlust. My family (And me) did a LOT of travelling, mine limited only by health. Dopamine receptor DRD4 7A can actually be tested for. I chose this configuration pre-incarnatively, and in the last year, I have learned to love/embrace it, and have never felt happier.Thanks for your reference to dopamine receptor DRD4 7A. I found this article:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0014162
Quote:DRD4 VNTR variation has been associated with a wide array of behavioral tendencies and psychiatric conditions. Among the most consistent are the association between 7R+ and ADHD [31] and that 7R+ individuals exhibit augmented anticipatory desire response to stimuli signaling dopaminergic incentives, such as food, alcohol, tobacco, gambling, and opiates [27], [32]–[34]. Although it is as yet speculative, these associations suggest that 7R+ individuals may allocate greater attention to appetitive rewards, contributing to the behavioral differences in promiscuity and infidelity observed here.