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Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - J.W. - 04-06-2021
This Shaman came across my feed recently,
A lot of his teachings are aligned with Ra's message. Also his relationship with his girlfriend point towards this transcription about wanderers..
"Ra: I am Ra. The entire creation is of the One Creator. Thus the division of sexual activity into simply that of the bodily complex is an artificial division, all things thusly being seen as sexual equally, the mind, the body, and the spirit; all of which are part of the polarity of the entity. Thus sexual fusion may be seen with or without what you may call sexual intercourse to be the complete melding of the mind, the body, and the spirit in what feels to be a constant orgasm, shall we say, of joy and delight each in the other’s beingness."
Although with everything looking A+++ ... There's something that just feels a little off about him, and I can't put my finger on it. One major red flag for me is the $1000 dollars fee to talk to him for 1 hour...
He also Contradict himself when he tells people to not "worship" gurus, but he himself... technically is one... and "selling" self help materials...
What do y'all think of Shaman Durek Verrett?
Is he a Wanderer? or a very, very clever STS entity?
Thanks in advance for your input and comments,
l/l
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - LeafieGreens - 04-06-2021
(04-06-2021, 12:35 AM)J.W. Wrote: This Shaman came across my feed recently,
A lot of his teachings are aligned with Ra's message. Also his relationship with his girlfriend point towards this transcription about wanderers..
"Ra: I am Ra. The entire creation is of the One Creator. Thus the division of sexual activity into simply that of the bodily complex is an artificial division, all things thusly being seen as sexual equally, the mind, the body, and the spirit; all of which are part of the polarity of the entity. Thus sexual fusion may be seen with or without what you may call sexual intercourse to be the complete melding of the mind, the body, and the spirit in what feels to be a constant orgasm, shall we say, of joy and delight each in the other’s beingness."
Although with everything looking A+++ ... There's something that just feels a little off about him, and I can't put my finger on it. One major red flag for me is the $1000 dollars fee to talk to him for 1 hour...
He also Contradict himself when he tells people to not "worship" gurus, but he himself... technically is one... and "selling" self help materials...
What do y'all think of Shaman Durek Verrett?
Is he a Wanderer? or a very, very clever STS entity?
Thanks in advance for your input and comments,
l/l
Trust your instincts. Trust your gut feeling. That is coming from your intuition and is in tune.
Yes, a $1,000 price tag would a bit steep for a shaman who is not attached to 3D living, unless one has a need for excessive amounts of cash. Why would that be? Is that 5D living?
I honestly know nothing about this shaman Durek and make no assumptions but I don't like the feel of him based on these observations.
A simple mantra to go by when you encounter questionable people like this:
If it's light, it's right.
Meaning if something makes you feel light and happy and easygoing, then it is probably right. If something makes you question someone's motives, morals, and integrity then what does that tell you?
All the best to you JW!
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - zedro - 04-06-2021
Not sure why you're focused on that particular dichotomy (it's not a true one anyways), he could very well be an STO wanderer, STO earthseed, or STS whatever....that is simply misguided and imperfect. Also a grifter can be right and tell you the truth and be of benefit, as the only thing that matters is the influence one has on yourself, as even a well intentioned STO love and light type can inadvertently lead you down a stray path, or empty your wallet.
Don't worry about the labels, just discern the substance and take what you need.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - zedro - 04-06-2021
Just to add (and maybe more to the point), the important answers are most likely not going to come from paying someone 1k just to chat. If this was a retreat with that much worth of service, then that is different (maybe at least for a nice vacation lol). But from my experience, the real critical help just happens for free (synchronicities, random help), the rest is just education and entertainment.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - J.W. - 04-06-2021
(04-06-2021, 01:11 AM)LeafieGreens Wrote:(04-06-2021, 12:35 AM)J.W. Wrote: This Shaman came across my feed recently,
A lot of his teachings are aligned with Ra's message. Also his relationship with his girlfriend point towards this transcription about wanderers..
"Ra: I am Ra. The entire creation is of the One Creator. Thus the division of sexual activity into simply that of the bodily complex is an artificial division, all things thusly being seen as sexual equally, the mind, the body, and the spirit; all of which are part of the polarity of the entity. Thus sexual fusion may be seen with or without what you may call sexual intercourse to be the complete melding of the mind, the body, and the spirit in what feels to be a constant orgasm, shall we say, of joy and delight each in the other’s beingness."
Although with everything looking A+++ ... There's something that just feels a little off about him, and I can't put my finger on it. One major red flag for me is the $1000 dollars fee to talk to him for 1 hour...
He also Contradict himself when he tells people to not "worship" gurus, but he himself... technically is one... and "selling" self help materials...
What do y'all think of Shaman Durek Verrett?
Is he a Wanderer? or a very, very clever STS entity?
Thanks in advance for your input and comments,
l/l
Trust your instincts. Trust your gut feeling. That is coming from your intuition and is in tune.
Yes, a $1,000 price tag would a bit steep for a shaman who is not attached to 3D living, unless one has a need for excessive amounts of cash. Why would that be? Is that 5D living?
I honestly know nothing about this shaman Durek and make no assumptions but I don't like the feel of him based on these observations.
A simple mantra to go by when you encounter questionable people like this:
If it's light, it's right.
Meaning if something makes you feel light and happy and easygoing, then it is probably right. If something makes you question someone's motives, morals, and integrity then what does that tell you?
All the best to you JW!
1st. Thank you for that, I really appreciate your insight. I share similar perspective and view on this matter, so this is reassuring. :]
2nd. Um... this might be strange to ask... but is your name Neil? your profile pic looks very familiar. lol!
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - LeafieGreens - 04-06-2021
Not Neil.
I’m Ben. Hi.
Adding to zedro’s wise comments, I will add that there is a plethora of free resources and gurus, channelers, and communities like bring4th where one can really dig into the deepest questions of existence all without having to spend a thousand bucks an hour.
Ascension is for everyone anyway.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - J.W. - 04-06-2021
(04-06-2021, 03:23 AM)LeafieGreens Wrote: Not Neil.
I’m Ben. Hi.
Adding to zedro’s wise comments, I will add that there is a plethora of free resources and gurus, channelers, and communities like bring4th where one can really dig into the deepest questions of existence all without having to spend a thousand bucks an hour.
Ascension is for everyone anyway.
lol, sorry Ben! and Hi!
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - J.W. - 04-06-2021
Oh, btw
I came across this thread about this Shaman, it basically "debunked" him.
http://www.newagefraud.org/smf/index.php?topic=5443.0
Concerned family members of those he "helped" sprung an investigation on him because people were getting scammed... As those who seek him are.. "desperate."
I am now a little concerned for my friend, I love her and would be sadden to see her possibly being deceived by what seem to be an STS entity. (although it is her freewill.)
At least now I can give my friend an opportunity to make a choice with the information gathered.
On the other note, I came across this quote from Ra.
"68.17 Questioner: I am interested in how the first distortion applies to the negatively polarized entity misplacing the mind/body/spirit complex. Why is the negatively polarized entity followed to the place of negative time/space? Why would one of us freely follow the entity?
Ra: I am Ra. The positive polarity sees love in all things. The negative polarity is clever."
I feel grateful to be able to know about Don, Carla, and Jim ... plus all the great wanderers like Ghandi, MLK, Lincoln, etc. etc. As they serve even in death, as a "template" for STO path, through their examples, and endeavor of their own incarnation.
With l/l all
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - Ohr Ein Sof - 04-06-2021
(04-06-2021, 12:35 AM)J.W. Wrote: This Shaman came across my feed recently,
A lot of his teachings are aligned with Ra's message. Also his relationship with his girlfriend point towards this transcription about wanderers..
"Ra: I am Ra. The entire creation is of the One Creator. Thus the division of sexual activity into simply that of the bodily complex is an artificial division, all things thusly being seen as sexual equally, the mind, the body, and the spirit; all of which are part of the polarity of the entity. Thus sexual fusion may be seen with or without what you may call sexual intercourse to be the complete melding of the mind, the body, and the spirit in what feels to be a constant orgasm, shall we say, of joy and delight each in the other’s beingness."
Although with everything looking A+++ ... There's something that just feels a little off about him, and I can't put my finger on it. One major red flag for me is the $1000 dollars fee to talk to him for 1 hour...
He also Contradict himself when he tells people to not "worship" gurus, but he himself... technically is one... and "selling" self help materials...
What do y'all think of Shaman Durek Verrett?
Is he a Wanderer? or a very, very clever STS entity?
Thanks in advance for your input and comments,
l/l
It seems to me your suspicions are spot on...our gifts are free because they were given to us freely and we do the same for our fellow humans and our brothers and sisters of sorrow/wanderers.
Good catch!
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - Patrick - 04-06-2021
This con is obvious. I wish other cons were so obvious too.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - Ymarsakar - 04-06-2021
Well, let's see what we can see with my tarot deck (apps).
Root The Devil
Sacral Chakra The Way
Solar Chakra Resurrection
Heart Chakra Three of Cups
Throat Chakra The Prince of Disks
Third Eye Chakra Seven of Wands
Crown Princess of Wands, Enthusiastic
Consider this a game I play, for entertainment purposes.
His root chakra seems to be the one being tempted, into feelings of security or perhaps wealth covering up insecurities. Temptation/Desire is the upright meaning, and Addiction is the reverse. Key words Focus/Creative Willpower (Crowley sense), Materialism, Sexuality, ambitions.
JW already described a few of these events, such as the sexual forging methods and the money thing. Seems like it is connected to the foundation/fear of one's own life/survival. Fearing losing one's life is not imbalanced btw, I don't use the philosophy definition for that. How that manifests, can be good or bad or just meh.
The Sacral chakra has a generally good or rather vague card. The way/Tao. Pray vs Trust. Stillness, Prayer, Contemplation. So it seems they are doing some kind of spiritual thing in relationship to other people, and of course the alchemical sexual forging would lead to the Tao too sooner or later.
The Solar Resurrection, Fusion, Synergy, Alchemize, Harmonize, Combine, Express. So this seems they are using their willpower and 3rd density social connections to create this fusion. Whether it is a serious romantic/sexual relationship, or something else. Or all of the above combined.
Nothing so far has depicted an imbalanced chakra system so far. But the potential is always there to misuse these things and things can quickly reverse themselves and get out of wack.
Throat is Prince of DIsks.
3 eye Seven of Wands, Courage.
Crown, Princess of Wands
Disks, would be pentacles/coins, meaning having to do with the physical world. So the speaking seems to be more earth centered on materialistic concerns, in a slightly immature sense, and not the more mature Queen/King of Swords/Wands card that usually shows up for seekers of spirit or adepts of power.
This is the first formation draw I did below. The chakra above was second.
Present Lovers, inverted.
The Past Six of Disks, generosity
The Future Three of Disks, Works.
Above Wheel of Flow
Below/Foundation/reasons Six of Cups, Joy
The Inverse lovers usually means the fusion is out of balance. Why, I don't know. Past is 6 of disks, so another 60% materialism card. The future being 3 of disks, seems to be starting new projects. When the disks are sandwiching the present, usually this person is focused mostly on Earth stuff, aka 3rd density. Survival, bills, economic stuff, the usual norm. Generally the lovers card is better with cups or wands. That shows an emotional connection and or passion, insight.
This spread I am not exactly in love with, in terms of a formation. I prefer the 10 card celtic draw, as more cards makes things easier to interpret, but I don't want to write out 10 cards.
For those that want to cross reference this tarot game with the archetypes, they can read the guidelines in the archetype sub forum of the Law of One sub forum. And the card descriptions are all here, searchable. https://www.patchtarot.com/card-library
I may do a Shadowscape reading too, but I need to check stocks right now.
*****
Ok, shadowscape. Man this is one strange set of artwork from this deck.
https://www.shadowscapes.com/Tarot/cardsmain.php?suit=4
Past Queen of cups, Present Seven of Pentacles, Hidden influences Six of Pentacles, Obstacles Ace of Pentacles, Environment the Magician, Action to take The Star, Outcome Nine of Pentacles,
For shadowscape, I only set a general intention, what Verret's "condition" was. Very vague.
I then did a cross confirmation via a Celtic cross.
You, Ace of Pentacles (well actually him)
Cross/Challenge High Priestess
Foundation Strength
Past Queen of Swords
Immediate future The Sun
Crown/Above The Chariot
Six of Swords Advice for Challenge
Environment/external influence The Wheel of Fortune
Hopes and Fears Ten of Swords
Outcome Queen of Cups
First thing I notice is that there are duplicated cards. I notice those first. Wheel of Flow/Fortune shows up twice. The Ace of Pentacles, also showed up twice. Queen of Cups showed up twice.
Notice that regardless of the deck used or app used (different programming), Disks/Pentacles shows up predominantly? There's a reason for that.
I am not used to interpreting shadowscape tarot deck, so it's hard me to say exactly what those cards mean.The general Tarot archetype still applies.
The Sun in this context, may mean "Authority", although that is closer to an astrological interpretation of what Sun is. Reading the shadowscape card descriptions, it definitely does mean something like "I command all things in existence..." so forth. Ego? Megalomania? Perhaps. That would be the negative interpretation. The more positive would be "shines down upon all equally, riding high, golden glow". Well, given the Earth based materialism, kind of hard to "shine down upon all equality", hehe.
"What do y'all think of Shaman Durek Verrett?"
I think human Durek Verret is on a journey. What they can accomplish on this journey, is up to them. Like most humans, they have to start with their foundation and material life.
"This con is obvious. I wish other cons were so obvious too."
The truth is out there .... in one's Divine Source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEW9bIGMEfE
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - zedro - 04-06-2021
(04-06-2021, 09:24 AM)Patrick Wrote: This con is obvious. I wish other cons were so obvious too.
This reminds me of a story, I was trying to unlock my childhood past and so was looking for past regression therapists, and landed on this Romanian hypnotist. It was a 2 hour session at 120$ but with a money back satisfaction guarantee (although I'm always too agreeable to withhold payment). He spent most of the time in a sales pitch type mode, talking about himself and how science was blah blah blah...just alot of air and wasn't really focused on getting to know me and would barely let me talk. When we got to the hypnosis part (btw, I cannot be induced I later found out from other sources) and he started his 'technique', he had this grin on his face and as I tried to relax into getting induced, a small dull red dot appeared at his 3rd eye and immediately made me realize that this is a grift. Now I've only seen 3rd eye energy twice before (during using psylocibin and after) and it was huge and bright emerald green light. The one person was a younger 'gifted' child and the other a very gifted friend. I interpret the difference in colors based on the hypnotist being centered (foundational) at the 1st energy center, and the others being based around 4th energy center. Anyways the session definitely was not useful beyond that (I had to keep myself from laughing at some point) and never went back, but still payed in full.
I tried another therapist but again I'm just paying them to listen to me talk, the most valuable inputs I've gotten have been from random people or gifted friends. Or thru my own solitary seeking methods.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - Ymarsakar - 04-06-2021
Zedro, you are like a solo person that likes challenging an mmo by not reading the guides and just grinding alone by yourself. I went through that period as well. Joe Dispenza basically came up with the method I came up with, and it would have been a lot faster and less difficult if I had seen him in 2012 or even before. However, that never came about and I only saw him after 2016, way after I had already achieved what he was talking about.
That was intentional via life fate. It was planned out that way. Apparently the spirit and soul, gets more "bonus points" if the difficulty is higher and you don't get outside help. Or perhaps "solo" challenges automatically give better loot rewards than "team raiding".
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - zedro - 04-06-2021
Ha no doubt, I usually read the instructions after I've assembled the barbeque.
About 20 years ago when I was going thru the TI 'ordeals', I told a friend that I thought I was losing my mind and perhaps was schizo. He then said something to me that was completely out of character, and what I only realized years later was one of many temporary 'walk-in messagers, he said "you aren't crazy, you just need difficult challenges to keep you motivated". In the context of our conversation it was completely incongruent, and it only made sense years later (basically I had to go thru hell and back and survive). That line was repeated to me a couple of different times/variations from people who had no business saying such things, but were acting as temporary channels/guides without ever knowing it. I've received dozens of such messages and advice over the years from people who were completely not aware of it, most in short form, some occasionally in long form. It took a long time to understand that both 'angels and devils' were doing this.
In my case I don't so much believe it's necessarily about 'bonus difficulty points' but rather a price of admission.... we'll see if that's the case.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - Ymarsakar - 04-06-2021
"That line was repeated to me a couple of different times/variations from people who had no business saying such things, but were acting as temporary channels/guides without ever knowing it."
What I am getting in my head of a vision is someone whose soul collective or original environment, had this virtual matrix where they could basically program it as hard as they can (within limits) and so the "instructors" would often times beam themselves in like Agent Smith, temporarily control an avatar, and tweak the parameters of the person's "game/life".
It would be like a high tech advanced civilization in the future, where most everyone was hooked up to VR whatever.
What was your reaction to Avatar the movie? Sorry if I forgot about it.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - zedro - 04-06-2021
Well I was specifically told that I would have friends that would pick me up if/when I fall down....again from a complete stranger out of the blue, and I still had no context of who those friends were, just that I needed to trust (things were going bad then)
I talked about this in some of my early posts, maybe I'll do a Wanderers intro but things just keep unfolding lol.
RE: Shaman Durek Verrett, 5th density Wanderer? or Orion's crusader? - Ymarsakar - 04-07-2021
An addendum to my previous game.
Ace of Pentacles has lizards on them. This showed up both as "Him" or You/Query, and as an "Obstacle".
That is... ominous. Who do we know that are lizards or serpents per say?
I was in "objective observer mode" when I did the reading, so I stopped myself from biasing the results with feelings and the heart. But The Devil in the Root chakra? Heart says "oh no, that's not good". In terms of symbols, it also has a lot to do with repression, darkness, and other stuff. This when combined with the disk/coin materialistic wealth aspects, is not balanced or good.
When I do these sequences, when the Outcome card is the same as another spread's Past card, this links them together as one story. Queen of Cups is the outcome of one spread, but the "past" of another spread. Those spreads would thus be linked, so I was going into the "past" of the subject's condition.
I can also choose to continue the story from a certain standpoint and it will tell a "story" sorta like Star wars trilogy.
I read the review of Derek after I did the main formations. I haven't asked questions or done energy readings on whether the review is correct or not. I think materialism draws materialistic criticism, which is what the review is. Is it completely true? For disks/coins it is, but maybe for wands or mental air it is not.
The Magician card as an outside influence, tends to suggest sleight of hand or illusion, rather than mastery. Manipulation at the lower energy reading. Liberation at the higher energy reading.
I believe a lot of the reviewers feel they are right, but that is insufficient to prove they are. There are very many "layers" to this reality that requires detached observation and mental analysis. Skeptics have basically debunked themselves, because they tend to treat Teal, Wilcock, and other people with the same "con man cult detected" behavior. This tends to make them.... easy to manipulate, shall we say, by astral forces. So I can't take anything that materialistic based reviewers say about anything, nor do I want to do energy readings on them. They have to play their own game. This is very tricky and I've fallen for these "debunked reviews" before as well. The moment they start "debunking" a topic I know personally, then the mask comes off and I wake up and realize "wait a moment".
Is Derek comparable to the seekers and adepts here? No.
Are the criticisms of Derek 100% accurate? Likely also no.