(11-14-2020, 09:11 PM)Glow Wrote: Hi Cygnus. Welcome back.

According the the channelings the harvest was already happening in the 80s and they projected it would last between 100 and 700 years. So here we are.

My personal interpretation is that a lot of opportunities to make the choice are being presented as we go deeper into the harvest period.

Whether is due to the disharmony of a 4D planet and a still 3D mostly unpolarized towards 4D society or just a gift of catalyst to help us choose that is sort of unknown to me but likely the two are linked.

So all this turmoil as catalyst acts on our current polarity mixed with our shadow parts and in each opportunity we can further polarize, either towards fear and control, or unity/love and acceptance. I am sure others will be along to add their perspectives but that is mine.

It's a difficult time but also one of intense work. Those stuck in the sinkhole that have resisted making the choice and polarizing are being encouraged by "all this" to do so.

I have hope it will spur people to start choosing.

(11-14-2020, 10:22 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: Hi cygnus - just moved this thread to the Transition to Fourth Density subforum, as it's the perfect fit for your post.

Cheers - and great to have you present.

(11-14-2020, 10:56 PM)unity100 Wrote: 'End times' is a semitic mythology. There isnt such 'end times' in other mythologies or teachings.

Even in the case of Native Ameican mythology or outright Mayan calendar, there is no 'end time' but rather a change of period, a rise in frequency.

But speaking in street speak, no - there has been bigger cataclysms or social unrest or troubles in history before. The current situation is not significant of any such thing.

But if one puts in context, comparing how the situation in China with its responsible society and administration is, compared to the some of the supposedly 'free' nations of the world who are outright throwing their people into the dustbin to protect the stock market and not even feeling the need to pretend, one could say that this situation is a manifestation of the trait of green vibration that makes the true nature of things and people to come into the open.

(11-15-2020, 01:25 AM)cygnus Wrote: thanks for the welcome!  im not really experienced on navigating forums, how do i find the subforum please?

(11-15-2020, 01:37 AM)cygnus Wrote: dont quite understand your thoughts on china.?

(11-15-2020, 02:07 AM)unity100 Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 01:37 AM)cygnus Wrote: dont quite understand your thoughts on china.?

China has a culture that is based on practical and societal things that prioritize the well being of people and the society over other things. Like prioritizing people over profits or the stock market. This is compounded by the government they have, which just threw billions of dollars to solve the problem the moment they discovered 12 infected people. They tested 11 million people right away, then shut down an 11 million city, then shut down entire country without a blink. They provided money to the people in quarantine, they even organized delivery of food to elderly people who couldnt leave their flats.

In contrast, US has arranged a one time $600 check to 'those who qualify' then basically let 30 million who lost their jobs and their healthcare to rot.

Instead US bailed out the stock market with $3 trillion. Initiative was led by the very man who was supposed to 'drain the swamp'.

Difference of priorities. In one country, 'the economy' is more important, in the other, people's lives take priority.

Result is simple:

While people in countries like US are suffering and feeling the impact of very dire times, people in China more or less returned to normal, and their perspective of the situation is a serious but minor mishap that was averted more or less seriously. While in the US, many families dont have money to buy food. Other countries are affected in between.

So basically this situation is an 'end times' depending on the perspective of the person and how much s/he was impacted by the situation. For those who were not impacted seriously, not that much...

(11-15-2020, 12:08 PM)cygnus Wrote: i would have to disagree that in a communist country people are the priority.

Quote:i do agree that our govt, no matter who is in office doesnt put the people first.

Quote:i was just wanting to get peoples thoughts on if they thought more energy coming in as a result of dimension shift/harvest could be why things seem to be escalating more.? or is it just people finally getting fed up and doing what they think will get them some change? thanks for your reply

(11-15-2020, 09:13 PM)flofrog Wrote: Hello Cygnus,  lovely to see you back here.  

For my part, I wonder if there is not definitely a shift in vibration simply felt by everyone, whether we feel it more consciously or less, but feeling it.  Then whether we feel prone to anxiety or have a sense of balancing yourself, it will affect us differently, and may bring both exhilaration plus desire to become more active and help, and definitely the virus has created numerous situations with extraordinary acts of kindness and courage, or if anxious an urge to withdraw or constricti, and sometimes those feelings happening nearly consecutively.    But we do feel everyone is affected, right ?  

(11-15-2020, 11:17 PM)cygnus Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 09:13 PM)flofrog Wrote: Hello Cygnus,  lovely to see you back here.  

For my part, I wonder if there is not definitely a shift in vibration simply felt by everyone, whether we feel it more consciously or less, but feeling it.  Then whether we feel prone to anxiety or have a sense of balancing yourself, it will affect us differently, and may bring both exhilaration plus desire to become more active and help, and definitely the virus has created numerous situations with extraordinary acts of kindness and courage, or if anxious an urge to withdraw or constricti, and sometimes those feelings happening nearly consecutively.    But we do feel everyone is affected, right ?  

hello flofrog, thanks for the welcome and the reply.  interesting perspective and i have both those feelings. i spend less time in the slightly anxious feelings tho as it is not a healthy perspective for me to run around in.  im not a religious person but it does feel to me like the age old theme of good vs evil for lack of better terms is what i see going on.   i mentioned harvest as i am wondering if this is the last choosing for those who havent determined their polarity.? and not sure if it works this way but could it be the sts are working extra hard to increase their numbers?  maybe it just seems this way to me but things do seem more intense and the stakes higher.  i dont know anyone to bat these concepts around with, used to talk about it with my mom but she is older now and not much for deep thinking.  i usually talk to myself while trying not to get caught, hahaha    

(11-16-2020, 01:41 PM)flofrog Wrote: lol,  talking to oneself is not so bad  

I think those times are pretty good to have us build faith. Not as religious faith, but faith that nothing happens by mistakes and that we are all  int he same boat. Doesn't mean we dont have to do the work, right  but it's pretty elating knowing that all of us are working hard through this, even the ones who look lazy     There is plenty of examples around us right now of entities who are very courageous,  so it's elating, and the ones who look less so, who knows what is going inward.  It's ok to feel fluctuating, no path is quite straight but all aims towards a good end somehow...  

Harvest to me is an elusive thought, it is more to me to know what do I do right now... choices, choices...

keep on Cygnus,