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Kundalini - sillypumpkins - 02-01-2020

Hey all,

I want to get a discussion going about Kundalini and the concept of serving others/self, and any other Law of One topics you guys might think of.

I had a spontaneous kundalini awakening 2 years ago when I was 19 years old. It was quite jarring at first and it took me quite a while to adjust. I'm much more balanced nowadays than I was then.

I've spent a good amount of time in the r/kundalini subreddit on reddit. It's a good subreddit. The primary moderator, Marc, is a kind and helpful fellow. I can't find the post right now, but at some point someone asked a question about what K actually is. Marc's response was extensive, however one part that stuck out to me was he said something that suggested those who had a K awakening were (I'm going to butcher this) "on their way out, but holding the door open for others before they go through themselves..." something like that. That's what I got from it at least.

I've been getting back into the Ra material lately and this suggestion that those who had a K awakening wished (deep down....) to serve others, obviously coincides with the STO concept in the Ra material.

I've read the section of session 49 about Kundalini, but it doesn't really go toooooo in depth.

So, is this the case? Kundalini awakenings happen to those who wish to serve others? So a person who is majority STS cannot have a K awakening?

If that's the case, why? I mean, K is a great help when used appropriately and respectfully. But why wouldn't someone who serves themselves be able to awaken their K? I understand that an individual with a majority STS who has an activated K is potentially dangerous. However, in my mind, everyone should have a fair shot at it right? Do STS people have their own, negative, version of K?

I'd really love to hear everyone's views on this. Thanks all! Heart Heart Heart


RE: Kundalini - Hilarion - 02-01-2020

In the Law of One it mentions that the STO path involves opening the Heart (4th Energy Center). This is the essence of serving others out of unconditional love. It further mentions that once the heart is open, then the other energy centres open almost as a consequence. This is the kundalini awakening that eastern traditions talk about.

STS individuals bypass the heart center, keeping it closed and focus on the willpower of the 2nd (sacral) and 3rd (solar plexus) energy centers, then use this to jump up to the higher energy centers. I'm not too sure what this experience is like as I have no wish to investigate it.

In this sense opening the Heart Center is what is needed to move into 4th density positive.


Quote:39.12 ▶ Questioner: Is this also true of all the other rays?

Ra: I am Ra. We shall answer briefly. You may question further at another working.

The negative ray pattern is the red/orange/yellow moving directly to the blue [indigo?], this being only used in order to contact intelligent infinity.

In positively oriented entities the configuration is even, crystallinely clear, and of the seven ray description.

Are there any short queries before we leave this instrument?


Kundalini is also specifically mentioned here:

Quote:49.6 ▶ Questioner: What process would be the recommended process for correctly awakening, as they say, the kundalini and of what value would that be?

Ra: I am Ra. The metaphor of the coiled serpent being called upwards is vastly appropriate for consideration by your peoples. This is what you are attempting when you seek. There are, as we have stated, great misapprehensions concerning this metaphor and the nature of pursuing its goal. We must generalize and ask that you grasp the fact that this in effect renders far less useful that which we share. However, as each entity is unique, generalities are our lot when communicating for your possible edification.

We have two types of energy. We are attempting then, as entities in any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further and further along or upward along the energy centers. The two methods of approaching this with sensible method are first, the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true-color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth.

Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.

Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.

Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its height. When this uncoiled energy approaches universal love and radiant being the entity is in a state whereby the harvestability of the entity comes nigh.



RE: Kundalini - sillypumpkins - 02-01-2020

(02-01-2020, 12:10 PM)Hilarion Wrote: In the Law of One it mentions that the STO path involves opening the Heart (4th Energy Center). This is the essence of serving others out of unconditional love. It further mentions that once the heart is open, then the other energy centres open almost as a consequence. This is the kundalini awakening that eastern traditions talk about.

STS individuals bypass the heart center, keeping it closed and focus on the willpower of the 2nd (sacral) and 3rd (solar plexus) energy centers, then use this to jump up to the higher energy centers. I'm not too sure what this experience is like as I have no wish to investigate it.

In this sense opening the Heart Center is what is needed to move into 4th density positive.


I see. Well that makes sense to me.

So, this leads me to another question. Is a Kundalini awakening a requirement for harvest? As in, does an entity have to have had a K awakening in order to qualify for harvest? That's what it sounds like to me.

Also, are wanderers capable of having a Kundalini awakening? It appears to me that a wanderer who has origins in the 4th/5th/6th density has no need for a kundalini awakening, if a K awakening is in fact what is needed to move on to 4D.

Thanks for the reply! Heart Heart


RE: Kundalini - Infinite - 02-01-2020

I suggest you read this thread: https://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=14867.


RE: Kundalini - sillypumpkins - 02-01-2020

(02-01-2020, 02:28 PM)Infinite Wrote: I suggest you read this thread: https://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=14867.

Oh, very good. I somehow missed this when I searched 'kundalini' on here.

That thread sheds a lot of light on the subject. Thank you very much for sharing.


RE: Kundalini - flofrog - 02-01-2020

Definitely making sure you keep all centers balanced together is what might be the first requisite... you do not want to open the violet chakra and not have the others opened and balanced ... Thank you Infinite Wink


RE: Kundalini - sillypumpkins - 02-01-2020

(02-01-2020, 03:42 PM)flofrog Wrote: Definitely making sure you keep all centers balanced together is what might be the first requisite... you do not want to open the violet chakra and not have the others opened and balanced ...  Thank you Infinite Wink

Yup.... learned this the hard way...


RE: Kundalini - AnthroHeart - 02-01-2020

So do we go through many Kundalini awakenings?

Back years before 2012 I had my mental breakdown where I thought I was in hell for 2 weeks.
That may have been an awakening.

Then in 2012 I had another where I thought God was talking to me, but it wrecked me and I ended up in jail for 2-3 weeks.

Then a few months ago I had one where it was blissful.

So I've had 3, and they seem to get better. I'm not sure where my Kundalini sits now.
But I do work with my 3rd eye, as well as my solar plexus (power center).
Also use my heart. It's interesting how complex it can all be trying to balance out these chakras when I do work.


RE: Kundalini - Scah - 02-01-2020

I went through a few ones and my experiences do vaguely coincide with what Ra explained.

I had my first one about 1 year ago. It happened spontaneously while i was binging Netflix (yep it happens whenever it wants). I still remember the episode and the show i was watching when it happened. It happened right after I change my seating position to lotus (Lotus is my comfortable seating position) and then i started to rotate counter clockwise (just like kundalini yoga surprise surprise) which lasted about 20 mins (thanks to my TV show...it acted as a timer for me). When the involuntary rotation stopped, I was talking into thin air. I knew at that moment I was talking to my higher self. I asked many questions and a few was answered. Then all of a sudden, it just stopped. I was exhausted and couldn't believe what just happened until netflix prompted me to watch the next episode.

The months following the first one, I was constantly spontaneously going into mini kundalini awakening anytime anywhere without any warning (dinner party, wedding, at home, at work, etc). Though these mini ones don't last for more than a few minutes. I usually would try very hard not to rotate and find a quiet place to let it does its thing. I was having at least one mini per week at that time. Thank goodness for all the Starbucks in Vancouver... Their washrooms are by far the best on average.

I had my second big one about 6 months after the first one. By that time, the mini ones had stopped happening for more than a few weeks. So, when it happened, it took me by surprise. And again, i was binging netflix. At first, i thought it was the mini ones again but then i rotated for a good 30 mins and talked to my higher self again.

After the second one, i thought it was all done. I had not had any mini or full ones for 3 months. And then a gigantic one that just happened two-three weeks ago. Due to the things I had observed and encountered during the third one, I am pretty sure it's the last one (basically i have been told it's the last one).

Here is my full description of my Kundalini experience:
- Spontaneous rotation for 20 ~ 30 mins (1st/2nd/3nd)
- Vision blurred and brighten (1st/2nd/3nd)
- Saw the tunnel (1st/2nd/3nd)
- Energy went from the root to crown (1st/2nd/3nd)
- Felt the energy meeting at each charkras (2nd/3nd)
- Connecting/communicating to/with higher self (or entity. I am very envious of these channels that get a name from the entity that they connect to. I kept asking for one and didn't get one) (1st/2nd/3nd)
- Losing physical form awareness sensation (1st/2nd/3nd) There is always a point where i felt like i lost my physical form
- Consciousness expansion (3rd) <-- i don't know how to describe this. There is a physical component to the feeling expansion.

I was only under the influence of cannabis for my first awakening.
All the other ones happened without my mind under any kind of influence.
I am a regular user of the medical edible cannabis (cannabis infused honey).

I don't think it's a per-requisite for harvest. The awakening simply releases pent up energy and most of the time internal traumas were released at the same time. And one can definitely take advantage of the catalysts presented after the awakening to increase one's havestibilty. I think what one does after the awakening is what determines one's havestbility. That being said, please keep in mind that basically how one live each day also determines one's havestability. To me, the awakening is more like having a super catalyst that helps one polarize.

I personally didn't have too much side effects from the awakening other than the spontaneous body rotation that came without warning signs and I was fortunate enough to have the social support to work out some long hidden physical traumas and emotional traumas in the last few months. I can feel the energy going up and down the central channel, Ida and Pingala during meditation and yoga. I know it's the same energy but now it moves more smoothly. Sometimes it would still cause some involuntary physical movements (muscle jerks, momentarily full body shakes, weird hiccups and weird yawns (you are having hiccups and yawns but you know it's the same hiccups and yawans.....a very strange feeling.....it's like another person using your body to hiccup and yawn) but nothing too drastic.


(02-01-2020, 05:29 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: So do we go through many Kundalini awakenings?

Back years before 2012 I had my mental breakdown where I thought I was in hell for 2 weeks.
That may have been an awakening.

Then in 2012 I had another where I thought God was talking to me, but it wrecked me and I ended up in jail for 2-3 weeks.

Then a few months ago I had one where it was blissful.

So I've had 3, and they seem to get better. I'm not sure where my Kundalini sits now.
But I do work with my 3rd eye, as well as my solar plexus (power center).
Also use my heart. It's interesting how complex it can all be trying to balance out these chakras when I do work.



RE: Kundalini - sillypumpkins - 02-01-2020

(02-01-2020, 05:29 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: So do we go through many Kundalini awakenings?

Back years before 2012 I had my mental breakdown where I thought I was in hell for 2 weeks.
That may have been an awakening.

Then in 2012 I had another where I thought God was talking to me, but it wrecked me and I ended up in jail for 2-3 weeks.

Then a few months ago I had one where it was blissful.

So I've had 3, and they seem to get better. I'm not sure where my Kundalini sits now.
But I do work with my 3rd eye, as well as my solar plexus (power center).
Also use my heart. It's interesting how complex it can all be trying to balance out these chakras when I do work.


My understanding is that it can be a prolonged process for some. It can rear it's head, then go away for a while for some. Everyone's different.

Also, from what I understand, it is not very wise to focus on any one chakra for a prolonged period of time. That's not exactly promoting a balanced system.

I think it can be more of an issue for some chakras (the crown for example) than others. I've practiced AYP's solar centering exercise which involves putting your attention on the solar plexus and repeating a mantra.... so... yeah.... do what thou wilt...

I'm by no means a master, and I don't claim to know anything more than you do. I really don't know anything. This is just my experience and my understanding.


RE: Kundalini - AnthroHeart - 02-02-2020

I rarely focus on one chakra. I balance the system as a whole usually.
If one feels weak though I will, such as I had to with my root.


RE: Kundalini - Infinite - 02-02-2020

(02-01-2020, 05:29 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: So do we go through many Kundalini awakenings?

Based in my studies about the subject, the kundalini awakening is like climb a mountain and go down again many times until the seeker conquer the summit of the mountain.

So, there are many levels and kind of experiences of kundalini awakening. The yoga sources says the true awakening is gradual through each chakra. That agrees with Ra view about kundalini.

However, drugs, meditation, energetic techniques, mantras, etc. can make the kundalini move up temporarily, although the true awakening is gradual and totally comfortable. The kundalini is the level of perception and understanding of the reality.


RE: Kundalini - Nau7ik - 02-03-2020

Kundalini awakening can be experienced by either polarity.

There are some Tarot cards which deal specifically with this “serpent force.” Kundalini is sometimes referred to as the “fiery serpent.”

Key VIII Strength is all about Kundalini.
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Let me explain... In Hebrew occultism, Key VIII is assigned the letter Teth מ. Teth signifies a serpent. It is also attributed the zodiacal sign Leo. ♌️ resembles a serpent.

In the images, we see a woman opening the jaws of a lion. Above her head is the infinity symbol the same as the Magician, meaning that something of the qualities of the magician have been transferred over to the woman. The woman is the Empress, the creative imagination, the potentiated subconscious. Around her waist is a chain to roses woven together. This indicates the weaving together of desires which support our main purpose and rejection of all desires which do not. Then we are able to control and direct with the creative imagination the serpent power.
Her gown is white to indicate purity and freedom from mixture.

The lion represents the subhuman forces of nature. Within man, I believe these are the lower triad of chakras 1-3.

The function attributed to this card is digestion. Digestion of mental food. “Until one is wise enough to select and digest the proper sorts of food, he is not ready to experiment with the higher laws of control which enable adepts to perform their mighty works.”

The images then shows us that subconsciousness is at all times in control of the serpent force, the Kundalini. It always directs the activities of subhuman forces of nature. Subconsciousness then is always amendable to impressions originating at the self conscious level of mind.

Quote:What matters, therefore, is the kind of patterns we set. Our mental patterns are determined by self-conscious interpretation of experience. Let observation and attention (the Magician) be faulty, superficial, negative, or fearful and the resulting sequence of subconscious reactions is bound to be destructive. Then the spoken word and unuttered speech of thought (the Chariot) will be vehicles for a destructive pattern, and we shall set wild beast at our own vitals.

Change the pattern, and you change the result. Make it accurate, profound, courageous, positive, then you tame the lion, and he becomes your servant. This, indeed, is the secret of all spiritual activities, the secret of strength, the secret of ultimate mastery. Your personal applications of this secret to your own life will change everything for the better. Carry it further, into all your social relations, and you will become one of that increasing number of builders of a new, free world that shall realize the glory of the Eternal Splendor of the Limitless Light.

—Paul Foster Case, The Tarot



RE: Kundalini - flofrog - 02-03-2020

Very nice quote from Paul Foster, Nau, thank you Smile Let's tame the lion !!


RE: Kundalini - Nau7ik - 02-04-2020

(02-03-2020, 04:13 PM)flofrog Wrote: Very nice quote from Paul Foster, Nau, thank you Smile Let's tame the lion !!

Yes and to tame the lion, so to speak, is to do the inner work, to clear chakra blockages, to concentrate and focus on our true desires. And this all rests on the self-conscious mind because the Empress will take what’s given to her without question. Therefore it’s very important that we refine our mental patterns so that they are beneficial to us and our seeking.

In another Tarot card, the Lovers, we see that superconscious guidance is received through the subconscious. Again, responsibility rests on the Magician (conscious mind) to make the suggestions to subconsciousness.

Case says about the Lovers,
Quote:Discrimination, then, is the key to the establishment of happy co-operation between the two modes of personal consciousness. The burden falls on self-conciousness, because it is the farmer of suggestion. If it be careless and lax in observation, or harsh and driving in giving commands to subconsciousness, the results are destructive. On the other hand, if self-conscious intellect perceives the true relation among the three modes of consciousness, as symbolized in Key 6, it will be able to frame a series of suggestions which will make it the recipient of superconscious guidance, through the agency of subconsciousness.

All that is necessary is to formulate suggestions embodying the idea that subconsciousness can, and does, receive the influence from above, that it can, and does, reflect that influence to self-conciousness. Frame suggestions like these in words of your own. Study the picture, and find words to express its meaning in a formula of auto-suggestion. Your own words are best, and have the most power. You will be amazed and delighted with the result.

The image of the Lovers that Case is referring to is the esoteric version, either Rider-Waite or (preferably) the Builders of the Adytum, whereas the Ra Material deals with the Church of Light Egyptian version.