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What is spiritual yearning? - Cainite - 06-23-2019
What is the spirit yearning for? and when or why?
Does it exist in all third density planets? and is it still a thing in time/space?
I can't solve/fix it if I don't know exactly what the problem is.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Ray711 - 06-23-2019
My interpretation is that everyone and everything has spiritual yearning, which is the desire to reunite with the One Infinite Creator.
As entities in time/space are still not reunited with the Creator, they still have this yearning. For 3rd density entities such as ourselves, this yearning of seeking is either conscious or subconscious. Many activities are sought in order to reach happiness, to fill a void, without awareness that only the unconditional love of the Creator will fill that void. Incarnations are had over and over again in order to experience everything that the entity desires, until it realizes that nothing in the physical world will ever truly make it happy and fulfilled, at which point it becomes more likely that the entity will turn towards a spiritual seeking of the conscious kind. This is only the beginning of a long long road, millions of years long, in which we're constantly pursuing the mystery of the Creator throughout the different densities.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Glow - 06-23-2019
Through incarnation and the veil we lose our constant awareness of union with the divine.
That yearning is the part of self that recognizes what is now hidden and calls us back to it.
Like Ray said, at least when it has become conscious it can be moved towards with focus and will, so much suffering and confusion occurs in those who have not yet become aware of what the yearning is for. Unconsciously seeking all the things which cannot fill the void and avoidance of the one thing that will.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - ada - 06-23-2019
I think it's very close to the feeling of passion, like an inner will within you to seek, learn, understand, teach, heal, know truth.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - loostudent - 06-23-2019
This is a story I once read:
A hermit was meditating by a river when a young man interrupted him. "Master, I wish to become your disciple," said the man. "Why?" replied the hermit. The young man thought for a moment. "Because I want to find God."
The master jumped up, grabbed him by the scruff of his neck, dragged him into the river, and plunged his head under water. After holding him there for a minute, with him kicking and struggling to free himself, the master finally pulled him up out of the river. The young man coughed up water and gasped to get his breath. When he eventually quieted down, the master spoke. "Tell me, what did you want most of all when you were under water."
"Air!" answered the man.
"Very well," said the master. "Go home and come back to me when you want God as much as you just wanted air."
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - flofrog - 06-23-2019
That is so cool Loo !! I am not there yet but close, only because I am so curious lol lol lol
Here is my favorite buddhist story... Sorry as I am pretty sure I posted it already a year ago or more
There was this buddhist monk sitting under a tree and one of his student came by.
He bowed and asked
" Master how many more incarnations before I get enlightenment ?"
Themaster Looks at him and says :
" Three more .'
And the student thanks him, walks away and he is sulkily sighing, " oh my goodness, three more, three more ! "
and comes this other student, who bows to the monk,
and he asks :
" Master, how many more incarnations before I get enlighment ? "
And the master looks at him and says :
" Three hundred twenty seven more. "
The young student bows and thanks him and he walks away, and he is jumping up and down as he walks up the little path towards the monastery and says loud " Yes !!! three hundred and twenty seven more, three hundred and twenty seven more !!!! Yes !! " and as he reaches the top of the little path he gets enlightened.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - flofrog - 06-23-2019
As a matter of fact about spiritual yearning.. I have a question for you guys.. I am right now studying Ra session 91, and wouldn't you say in regards to spiritual yearning that in fact everything could be used as a catalyst if we wish to feed our spiritual yearning ? Like really everything ? Like if you peel a potato you can do it with gracefulness as looking at it before and seeing all the work that was implied into the making of this potato including the generosity of the Earth from the start ?
I find that there is incredible joy in very very small things as small as having a coffee in the morning because this too implies the work and gift from an incredible amount of being such as the planet, the elemental, the workers who created the coffee cup, the people who planted and harvested the coffee, the carrier of the coffee beans, the ones who made the sacks not which the beans are poured from the plantation, and all those other things so that in one cup of coffee there is a zillion of elementals and entities who were involved ? like pretty vertiginous ?
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - AnthroHeart - 06-23-2019
There was one about a monk who wanted to get enlightened.
After working at it for some time, he said "I'll never be enlightened." and then he was enlightened.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Nau7ik - 06-24-2019
(06-23-2019, 08:52 AM)Ray711 Wrote: My interpretation is that everyone and everything has spiritual yearning, which is the desire to reunite with the One Infinite Creator.
As entities in time/space are still not reunited with the Creator, they still have this yearning. For 3rd density entities such as ourselves, this yearning of seeking is either conscious or subconscious. Many activities are sought in order to reach happiness, to fill a void, without awareness that only the unconditional love of the Creator will fill that void. Incarnations are had over and over again in order to experience everything that the entity desires, until it realizes that nothing in the physical world will ever truly make it happy and fulfilled, at which point it becomes more likely that the entity will turn towards a spiritual seeking of the conscious kind. This is only the beginning of a long long road, millions of years long, in which we're constantly pursuing the mystery of the Creator throughout the different densities.
Perfectly said! I agree, our spiritual yearning is to be reunited with our Beloved, the Infinite One. All entities in manifestation have this yearning at some level, like Ray said, either consciously or subconsciously. I believe that is the ultimate yearning, it’s the root.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Glow - 06-24-2019
(06-24-2019, 09:30 AM)Nau7ik Wrote:(06-23-2019, 08:52 AM)Ray711 Wrote: My interpretation is that everyone and everything has spiritual yearning, which is the desire to reunite with the One Infinite Creator.
As entities in time/space are still not reunited with the Creator, they still have this yearning. For 3rd density entities such as ourselves, this yearning of seeking is either conscious or subconscious. Many activities are sought in order to reach happiness, to fill a void, without awareness that only the unconditional love of the Creator will fill that void. Incarnations are had over and over again in order to experience everything that the entity desires, until it realizes that nothing in the physical world will ever truly make it happy and fulfilled, at which point it becomes more likely that the entity will turn towards a spiritual seeking of the conscious kind. This is only the beginning of a long long road, millions of years long, in which we're constantly pursuing the mystery of the Creator throughout the different densities.
Perfectly said! I agree, our spiritual yearning is to be reunited with our Beloved, the Infinite One. All entities in manifestation have this yearning at some level, like Ray said, either consciously or subconsciously. I believe that is the ultimate yearning, it’s the root.
I love that you used the term beloved.
That’s how I see it too.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Cainite - 06-24-2019
(06-24-2019, 01:50 PM)Glow Wrote:Sufi stuff..(06-24-2019, 09:30 AM)Nau7ik Wrote:(06-23-2019, 08:52 AM)Ray711 Wrote: My interpretation is that everyone and everything has spiritual yearning, which is the desire to reunite with the One Infinite Creator.
As entities in time/space are still not reunited with the Creator, they still have this yearning. For 3rd density entities such as ourselves, this yearning of seeking is either conscious or subconscious. Many activities are sought in order to reach happiness, to fill a void, without awareness that only the unconditional love of the Creator will fill that void. Incarnations are had over and over again in order to experience everything that the entity desires, until it realizes that nothing in the physical world will ever truly make it happy and fulfilled, at which point it becomes more likely that the entity will turn towards a spiritual seeking of the conscious kind. This is only the beginning of a long long road, millions of years long, in which we're constantly pursuing the mystery of the Creator throughout the different densities.
Perfectly said! I agree, our spiritual yearning is to be reunited with our Beloved, the Infinite One. All entities in manifestation have this yearning at some level, like Ray said, either consciously or subconsciously. I believe that is the ultimate yearning, it’s the root.
I love that you used the term beloved.
That’s how I see it too.
I like it too. sounds more personal.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - hounsic - 06-24-2019
The swirling dervishes dancing with their beloved, I have always loved that image.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Glow - 06-24-2019
I had no idea that is what the whirling dirvish was about.
https://youtu.be/GVbd5AotD-o
I swear I got choked up. Thank you for bringing such beauty to my awareness.
One who beloves my beloved is also my beloved. We are one.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - kristina - 06-24-2019
(06-24-2019, 03:42 PM)Glow Wrote: I had no idea that is what the whirling dirvish was about.
https://youtu.be/GVbd5AotD-o
I swear I got choked up. Thank you for bringing such beauty to my awareness.
One who beloves my beloved is also my beloved. We are one.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Minyatur - 06-24-2019
(06-23-2019, 08:18 AM)Cainite Wrote: What is the spirit yearning for? and when or why?
Does it exist in all third density planets? and is it still a thing in time/space?
I can't solve/fix it if I don't know exactly what the problem is.
Everything derives from your seeking to know yourself. It is the underlying yearning that encompasses all yearnings. It is the current from which all things flow. I don't think there is something to fix. When you solve/realize yourself, you reach back to where it all begins and it is all enabled again in a new harvest. The puzzle/paradox is to hold a finite view point, which cannot grasp your own infinite nature. From there, a leap has to be made.
All things exist in infinity because there is infinite opportunity, but this infinite opportunity is created by yourself with your own investment. There are no things that are there without you having invested yourself within them. This is what the paths are all about. There is but one thing to realize and that is what you are. Everyone in your life has the opportunity to know themselves as with you having been as actor of their life. This is your service as a self, to be the mirror of what you are found within the opportunity of your circumstances.
All densities work across various levels in offering this same service. Atoms offer to hold a space for themselves, as building blocks of something greater and above them all things continue to offer this same service, as also contrasting essences. It is so with humans, just as it is so with the greater things within the cosmos. Everything offers the service of reflecting opportunity, of offering relativity. All to answer the same yearning which drives all things, to realize what each thing is. Just think about how we are at the very edge of our small galaxy, living our infinitely small joys and sorrows individually, which to many of us are the entire of all reality. This is opportunity within infinite relativity and the Octave itself is much alike this, a relative separate potential of something within the infinite.
All you need to do is to learn from the present moment, it already is the answer. This is why acceptance is key, because it is what allows to not remain stuck and instead move forward. It does not deny to do anything, but allows things to freely flow within you and work with opportunities as they come.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Cainite - 06-25-2019
(06-24-2019, 11:40 PM)Minyatur Wrote:So the yearning can also be interpreted as one's need to recognize the spirit or an awareness of it's real nature?(06-23-2019, 08:18 AM)Cainite Wrote: What is the spirit yearning for? and when or why?
Does it exist in all third density planets? and is it still a thing in time/space?
I can't solve/fix it if I don't know exactly what the problem is.
Everything derives from your seeking to know yourself. It is the underlying yearning that encompasses all yearnings. It is the current from which all things flow. I don't think there is something to fix. When you solve/realize yourself, you reach back to where it all begins and it is all enabled again in a new harvest. The puzzle/paradox is to hold a finite view point, which cannot grasp your own infinite nature. From there, a leap has to be made.
All things exist in infinity because there is infinite opportunity, but this infinite opportunity is created by yourself with your own investment. There are no things that are there without you having invested yourself within them. This is what the paths are all about. There is but one thing to realize and that is what you are. Everyone in your life has the opportunity to know themselves as with you having been as actor of their life. This is your service as a self, to be the mirror of what you are found within the opportunity of your circumstances.
All densities work across various levels in offering this same service. Atoms offer to hold a space for themselves, as building blocks of something greater and above them all things continue to offer this same service, as also contrasting essences. It is so with humans, just as it is so with the greater things within the cosmos. Everything offers the service of reflecting opportunity, of offering relativity. All to answer the same yearning which drives all things, to realize what each thing is. Just think about how we are at the very edge of our small galaxy, living our infinitely small joys and sorrows individually, which to many of us are the entire of all reality. This is opportunity within infinite relativity and the Octave itself is much alike this, a relative separate potential of something within the infinite.
All you need to do is to learn from the present moment, it already is the answer. This is why acceptance is key, because it is what allows to not remain stuck and instead move forward. It does not deny to do anything, but allows things to freely flow within you and work with opportunities as they come.
My more pessimistic views are in conflict with this understanding of infinite possiblities.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - flofrog - 06-25-2019
So the yearning can also be interpreted as one's need to recognize the spirit or an awareness of it's real nature?
My more pessimistic views are in conflict with this understanding of infinite possiblities.
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Yes and yet Cainite you are the infinite too and more..
Here is this from Nisargadatta
Quote:“All you need is already within you, only you must approach your self with reverence and love. Self-condemnation and self-disgust are grievous errors. Your constant flight from pain and search for pleasure is a sign of love you bear for your self, all I plead with you is this: make love of your self perfect. Deny your self nothing--give yourself infinity and eternity and discover that you do not need them; you are beyond.”
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Nau7ik - 06-25-2019
(06-24-2019, 03:42 PM)Glow Wrote: I had no idea that is what the whirling dirvish was about.
https://youtu.be/GVbd5AotD-o
I swear I got choked up. Thank you for bringing such beauty to my awareness.
One who beloves my beloved is also my beloved. We are one.
I did not know this either; Thank you for sharing!
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - ttwagneriii - 07-11-2019
Sometimes I wonder.
Sometimes I wonder if all this yearning I have for spiritual growth is simply a desire for some overriding sense of order and not some calling to an actual higher reality. I've been here 51 years and I can say that age + regret can be a motivator for seeking as materialism becomes less important because 1) it is not important and 2) frankly, it is less achievable at a certain point.
So I seek...I seek for answers and meaning. I seek some kind of confirmation that what I am doing everyday matters on a level that is deeper than the hardscrabble slog of daily existence. At the bottom of this I'm basically hoping that somebody/something is in charge and has a plan.
I have had no convincing varsity level spiritual experience that expels all doubt. I had one event 5 or so years ago while meditating when my awareness expanded and got very white and light filled. Then I heard a voice say, in an amused way, "Why do you spend so much time looking outside when everything you want is inside." Then my awareness re-focused back to here and now. That was pretty cool but also pretty darn generic. Maybe it was my higher self.
Maybe it was Rumi. Then again, maybe it was just ME. Things get very dodgy in my subjective mindscape and I can't tell if something like that was just me wanting to have that kind of experience or a real interjection. Perhaps there is no difference and doesn't matter if it has the same effect. It just bugs me a little that I could just be subconsciously making it up and then believing my own fiction.
Of course, it doesn't help that everywhere I look, there are people who claim to have had legitimate other dimensional experiences and purport to know what is going. All I really know is what I read or watched from somebody else. So basically, my spiritual reference points are somebody else's and I'm just adopting them in the absence of having my own.
Except for what I feel. I feel a strong urge to seek. I feel like it is the right thing to do. I feel love. I feel my heart open when I let it and this brings me joy. I feel a deep connection with other people when I am doing my best to help them. I feel a strong connection to the Earth: the land, the ocean, the forests, the sky, the animals: it all gives me that sense of a hidden, harmonious, interpenetrating design that brings me more peace than anything my own mind can concoct.
So really, I am going on feeling(s). Not so much intuition but more like a directional sensor that gives me a heart ping when I am headed the right way. Is it enough? I would have to say yes, because if I say it isn't and sit around waiting for a metaphysical brick upside my head I may miss a lifetime of opportunities to grow on my own steam. Sometimes though it feels like all my work is like trying to grab a handful of mist or maybe just air. After the effort, there isn't really anything there but perhaps I learned something in the process.
It probably serves to maintain my free will. Ra says they offer Truth without proof so any being can accept or reject it freely. Ra also says that some of the paranormal stuff is for people who need a little nudge from the infinite/mysterious to get them on the right path. Maybe because I'm on the path already and so I don't need the nudge.
Lotsa maybes...
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Infinite Unity - 07-11-2019
You wouldn't enjoy it if there wasnt mystery
Let go of expectation, and embrace whatever the moment brings. When we let go of expectations, which is an extension/attachment or sub of blockages/distortions. We can enjoy whatever the next moment for what it is: greatness.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Cainite - 07-12-2019
(07-11-2019, 11:35 AM)Infinite Unity Wrote: You wouldn't enjoy it if there wasnt mystery
Let go of expectation, and embrace whatever the moment brings. When we let go of expectations, which is an extension/attachment or sub of blockages/distortions. We can enjoy whatever the next moment for what it is: greatness.
What would inspire will in us then? if we give up on everything.. wouldn't it get boring?
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - Infinite Unity - 07-12-2019
I'm not saying give up on anything. I am saying your joy is related/inverse of your expectations. When we let go of what/how we expect the world to be, we begin to truly live.
You are free to play and run and do what you will with whatever you wish. You can keep playing with distortions,and distorting yourself. However my statements are vectored towards; undistorting.
Expecting is not acceptance.
To be completely open, completely honest, and meeting every moment in the unbound joy of love, One will have to let go of expectations.
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - loostudent - 07-13-2019
I don't think letting go all expectations (doubt) leads to openess and joy. Can you imagine things like meaning, hope, trust and faith without expectations? You couldn't even sit on a chair...
RE: What is spiritual yearning? - kristina - 07-13-2019
(07-13-2019, 02:49 AM)loostudent Wrote: I don't think letting go all expectations (doubt) leads to openess and joy. Can you imagine things like meaning, hope, trust and faith without expectations? You couldn't even sit on a chair...
Exactly. As I was thinking faith balances doubt. Doubt balances faith. You would have to be a extremely balanced entity to not have hopelessness, doubt, expectation and many other negative feelings come in the way of thoughts or even thought forms.