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Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - EvolvingPhoenix - 04-09-2019
Hey, so I noticed that here on b4, there still seems to be some uncertainty as to whether wanderers have to polarize to 51% or more service to others like everyone else or whether they just get to go back once their lifetime is done, assuming they didn't become karmically involved or get caught up in the planetary vibration through unloving acts towards others. I was wondering if there is ANY L/L material on this, as I'm finding it hard to believe that Don, Jim and Carla would never think to ask about that sort of thing.
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - AnthroHeart - 04-09-2019
I don't know any Ra material that talks about that, but using the search function here on Bring4th it is pretty much consensus that a wanderer will go home unless they were really unloving towards others in their life and took on karma.
We go where we're the vibration of, and when we're on the other side we will realize how perfect it is. I don't think we'll be unhappy if we have to repeat 3D. We will have a larger perspective, and will be happy whatever the outcome. Though if we were really negative and harvested negatively, that could be unsettling to some. But you probably know all this.
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - ada - 04-09-2019
Quote:70.15 ▶ Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?
Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - Sacred Fool - 04-09-2019
It seems to me that the 51% mark at harvest is required for any being here currently enjoying 3D to avoid having to repeat one or more 25,000 year cycles. But when you think about it, is this not a kindness, allowing the opportunity to fully offer your service the Creator? If you get confused (selfish) the first time around, you can work it out the next time and then begin helping others.
Don and Ra Wrote:16.61 ▶ Questioner: And if a Wanderer were to be successfully infringed upon, shall I say, by the Orion group, what would happen to this Wanderer at the harvest?
Ra: I am Ra. If the Wanderer entity demonstrated through action a negative orientation towards other-selves it would be as we have said before, caught into the planetary vibration and, when harvested, possibly repeat again the master cycle of third density as a planetary entity. This shall be the last full question of this session.
Is there a short question we may answer before we close the session?
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - EvolvingPhoenix - 04-09-2019
(04-09-2019, 06:58 PM)blossom Wrote:Quote:70.15 ▶ Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?
Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.
"If the agreed-upon mission is complete" So in other words, you go home only if you did what you came here to do?
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - ada - 04-09-2019
(04-09-2019, 08:02 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote:(04-09-2019, 06:58 PM)blossom Wrote:Quote:70.15 ▶ Questioner: I think to try and clear up this point I’m going to ask a few questions that are related that will possibly enable me to understand this better because I am really confused about this and I think it is a very important point in understanding the creation and the Creator in general, you might say. If a Wanderer of fourth, fifth, or sixth density dies from this third-density state in which we presently find ourselves, does he then find himself in third-density time/space after death?
Ra: I am Ra. This will depend upon the plan which has been approved by the Council of Nine. Some Wanderers offer themselves for but one incarnation while others offer themselves for varying lengths of your time up to and including the last two cycles of 25,000 years. If the agreed-upon mission is complete the Wanderer’s mind/body/spirit complex will go to the home vibration.
"If the agreed-upon mission is complete" So in other words, you go home only if you did what you came here to do?
If you are a wanderer I think. It is most times stressed upon, whether one is a wanderer or native, that the importance lies in balancing and clearing of karma.
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - Sacred Fool - 04-09-2019
(04-09-2019, 08:21 PM)blossom Wrote: If you are a wanderer I think. It is most times stressed upon, whether one is a wanderer or native, that the importance lies in balancing and clearing of karma.
Yes, along with the will to serve. The whole affair, taking the long view here, seems to be about following the upward spiraling of consciousness full circle back to Source. In 3D this has a lot to do with service, polarization, (loitering on the internet?) and other forms of exploring higher experiences of being/consciousness.
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - Jim Kent + - 04-10-2019
(04-09-2019, 08:02 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: "If the agreed-upon mission is complete" So in other words, you go home only if you did what you came here to do?
Greetings EP,
The mission could be a simple as just radiating Love & Light to the planet.
In fact, I would suspect that many if not most Wanderers incarnate on this planet without any specific mission, other than to raise the planetary vibrations at this time of Harvest.
It is my understanding that any M/B/S that incarnates in / on to a 3rd Density planet, regardless of native / prior Density, must reach Harvestable Polarity in order to avoid repeating at least some part of 3rd Density, in this / our case, on another 3rd density planet.
So put simply, if you are a Wanderer, and to want to go "Home" after this incarnation, the only way to do this is to reach that 51% STO. ( Presuming that is your chosen polarity )
L & L
Jim
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - Jim Kent + - 04-10-2019
Just remembered this quote from Carla's "A Wanderer's Handbook" ( Hope this clarifies things for you. ):
"Wanderer: an entity from fourth density or higher who moves about the universe according to the need to answer mental and prayerful calls for service from those of third density, in the case of our Earth. Wanderers can be called to service by any density, but when they answer a call from third density they must also go through the veil of forgetting so that their service must be re-discovered during the incarnation in order not to infringe upon the free will of the third density Earth population. Once this occurs, wanderers are Earth natives and must fulfill all the requirements of third density harvest in order to graduate from this density."
RE: Is there any L/L material regarding how a wanderer harvests? - EvolvingPhoenix - 04-10-2019
Well, there we have it. Thanks Jim Kent+.