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Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - Infinite - 04-04-2018
Quote:17.38 Questioner: Well, does each… does… this is difficult. Our physical plane: Are there seven sub-planes to what we call our physical plane here?
Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. This is difficult to understand. There are an infinite number of planes. In your particular space/time continuum distortion there are seven sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes. You will discover the vibrational nature of these seven planes as you pass through your experiential distortions, meeting other-selves of the various levels which correspond to the energy influx centers of the physical vehicle.
The invisible, or inner, third-density planes are inhabited by those who are not of body complex natures such as yours; that is, they do not collect about their spirit/mind complexes a chemical body. Nevertheless these entities are divided in what you may call an artificial dream within a dream into various levels. In the upper levels, desire to communicate knowledge back down to the outer planes of existence becomes less, due to the intensive learn/teaching which occurs upon these levels.
This looks like the sub-planes of space/time (at least in third density) are not "dimensions" or "vibrational frequencies" of inhabitation, but consciousness level of the entities. What you think about it?
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - AnthroHeart - 04-04-2018
I don't know much about that. But I do know (or it is my understanding) that feeling energy is seeing through the veil into time/space. I believe our energy centers reside in time/space.
I would think that energy influxes are a time/space thing until it is manifested in the physical. There is no limitation by time or space.
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - tristis - 04-04-2018
I apologize if my thoughts are confusing but here it goes!
It sounds like each density, 1-7, at least in our octave of densities, has a chakra system like ours with 7 planes of simultaneous vibrational experiences. These chakras or sub-planes that exist within our 3rd density each experience a vibrational resonance of our individual consciousness we physically manifest as we move through space-time in our current plane. I would suggest that each of our chakras here are correlated with an energetic manifestation of the higher self in the correlating subplanes of each plane and aggregated in the order of the matching density of each octave. Our conscious interaction with our other selves in the subplanes would be determined by the corresponding level of vibrational reaction we have to each experience. I would assume this is how we come to know the self in other seemingly separate energetic manifestations; to provide a clearer mirror of one concentrated aspect of our soul. These subplane entities of our soul I'm guessing are dwelling in the energetic fields we carry, which our memories of all experiences live in (and are filtered out by 3rd density's resonance to aid in forgetting) and how our DNA is programmed interestingly. I would also assume that they live in the higher or "closer" to the source density energies of our consciousness which all matter here is reacting to and that we in physical vehicle are the source resonator of the vibrational experiences and memories we create.
To align the chakras, thus aligning the other subplane selves in vibrational response, we can then tune in accurately to the frequency/energy we desire emanating from the Creator. What is interesting to me is the possibility that the experiences our other subplane selves encounter will be at a different rates of time, some slower, some faster according to the gravitational affect on the manifested matter and the intersection of our physical vehicle with another subplane self can be tuned for greater catalyst when time dialating experiences to intersect at other points of time-space for greater causation in the physical.
To simplify, we have created an experiential system for catalyst that can be finely, finely tuned.
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - Nau7ik - 04-08-2018
Yes, correct Infinite. That is how I interpret sub-planes within the physical as well: planes of consciousness.
Ra mentioned that many people, in response to the 4D Light, have dropped down to orange ray, 3.2. This would be the emotional / feeling type. Emotions are dominant.
Then, There are others who are involved in social organizations, politics, university, etc who could be classified as 3.3 (density, subplane/chakra). This can also be the intellectually minded types. Above 3.3, individuals are polarized or polarizing.
There are those coming from 4th ray, the open heart, who love without reservation and do so unconditionally. These would be spiritual seekers of truth. Individuals who are ready for fourth density.
3.5 is harder to classify, imo. I would say these are leaders, in the general sense of the word. They can either be positive or negative, but these individuals are very wise. Village elders is another example.
3.6,3.7 are the adepts. They’re in third density, and they’re operating from the sixth / seventh chakra. Still hard to classify, and I wouldn’t expect to meet many who are 3.6 or 3.7. But they are certainly there.
And for the sake of completing this outline, I would say 3.1 corresponds to those who’ve just left the animal kingdom. Their consciousness is 3D (3), they’re living an instinctual life (.1), but with a new realization of the self as an individual.
Feel free to disagree or to add your perspective or anything else
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - AnthroHeart - 04-08-2018
Does unconditional love never waver? If you lose it and then get it back, is it unconditional again? Or does lacking unconditional love for a bit negate its existence?
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - Nau7ik - 04-08-2018
(04-08-2018, 08:53 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Does unconditional love never waver? If you lose it and then get it back, is it unconditional again? Or does lacking unconditional love for a bit negate its existence?
Well in third density we are learning the ways of love. We are not expected to be perfect. There are times when I feel such great joy and love for ALL. Then there are times when everyone and everything annoys me. I wouldn’t say that it’s not unconditional. We simply haven’t cleared the blockages that block the FULL flow of energy into the heart chakra. Unconditional love is totally natural. It’s the blockages in the lower chakras that prevent us from enjoying this state of consciousness. We can work to clear them and live more and more in the open heart, thereby learning the ways of love.
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - AnthroHeart - 04-08-2018
(04-08-2018, 09:04 AM)Nau7ik Wrote:(04-08-2018, 08:53 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Does unconditional love never waver? If you lose it and then get it back, is it unconditional again? Or does lacking unconditional love for a bit negate its existence?
Well in third density we are learning the ways of love. We are not expected to be perfect. There are times when I feel such great joy and love for ALL. Then there are times when everyone and everything annoys me. I wouldn’t say that it’s not unconditional. We simply haven’t cleared the blockages that block the FULL flow of energy into the heart chakra. Unconditional love is totally natural. It’s the blockages in the lower chakras that prevent us from enjoying this state of consciousness. We can work to clear them and live more and more in the open heart, thereby learning the ways of love.
I overheard a YouTube broadcast my mom was watching where someone said they were only keeping their upper 2 chakras open and closing the rest because they thought Reptillian beings would use them to control him.
I could only think that he would sooner or later be overcome by getting lost in the higher energy and end up in a mental hospital. It's full of shamans who couldn't ground their energies.
I know my lower two chakras are open. I just can't feel my root chakra. But I do sometimes get intense orange ray feeling, so the red must be open to allow that.
I am just learning to see everything around me as Creator. I am learning to be Free. I am learning to allow the Universe to flow through me. And I am open to accepting the suffering of God if need be. Though my guidance says that God's suffering isn't extreme, yet God does have suffering. I could be wrong as I'm continually fine-tuning my guidance. It's like Jesus accepted all the suffering of Creator. I guess that helped Creator. I definitely feel it in the heart and solar plexus, the sadness, mixed with love. I just live from the heart and I can handle it. It is not too much to bear. This is amazing!
Forgive me if I'm off topic. But the mention of 3.4 subdensity got me thinking.
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - GentleReckoning - 04-09-2018
(04-08-2018, 08:53 AM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: Does unconditional love never waver? If you lose it and then get it back, is it unconditional again? Or does lacking unconditional love for a bit negate its existence?
It is unconditional love with wisdom. You move towards the negative and back to the positive as you reinforce boundaries so that you can more powerfully protect your unconditional love as you do work in 3rd density.
Placing the mental body (the negative body), in the way of energy always feels uncomfortable at first, but it is designed in such a way that it becomes very good at managing and mitigating discomfort. Eventually, you simply find people that make much better use of your unconditional love, and then it can flow freely again. (aka serving less shattered sixth density entities)
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - flofrog - 04-16-2018
Loved your subplanes Nau7ik, made a lot of sense to me.
About unconditional love, definitely even if it comes and goes, there's absolutely an ease to verse easily into it after a little bit of work... lol,
not always easy but then definitely eases with time, do not give up guys !!!! Since I am getting older, who knows, it might be senility too
RE: Sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes in our space/time - Sacred Fool - 04-17-2018
A good while back I worked with a clairvoyant for several years. She spoke about people "leading" with a particular chakra. For instance, for some people the themes in their life--and much of their energy--revolve around survival. They would often be involved in situations which they would interpret as threatening to their turf or something else that would tie in with physical survival, and she would describe these as leading with 2, i.e, the second chaka, or, one could say, the second sub-plane. Others might be involved largely in social activities that would define their lives, and these would be leading with 3. And so forth.
Personally, I have found this a useful way to interpret the sub-plane concept. However, in my particular case, this has not been a very flattering investigation as most of my time is not spent "leading" with anything impressive. Looking back, I've been mainly leading with 2,3 & 6 and have not been very well integrated in this respect.
But.....there's always tomorrow....