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What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - jmarsh12 - 08-16-2010
I found this documentary that changed my view on the food I eat. I decided to purchase the dvd and watch the video and learn some truths that will help me regain control of my body. I hope that this may help others also even if you just watch the trailer that is a good place to start. Thank you and peace, love and happiness to all of you.
http://www.foodincmovie.com/
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Peregrinus - 08-16-2010
I've watched it. Many people won't watch it because they "don't want to know"...
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - LsavedSmeD - 08-16-2010
(08-16-2010, 02:00 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: I've watched it. Many people won't watch it because they "don't want to know"...
You know I was eating just tomatoes and hot peppers straight from a garden, no pesticides - I felt great and clear it's odd how just eating different food can give such results.
If you truly want to stop eating the stuff that's bad for you, stop eating meat - humans are naturally frugivorous meaning, fruits. Yes you can actually live on nothing but fruit.
I'm not a vegetarian I'd like to be but I have crystallized my perception of eating and liking meat, but I no a door into true clarity is opened from eating harmoniously and not at the expense of the death of animals.
I've also thought about the meat thing and for some reason I feel like fish may be a lot better to eat then red meat, poultry, etc....
The number 1 killer in the United States is heart disease, the number 1 cause of heart disease is meat.
Hmm.
Milk is also absolutely terrible for you, don't let anyone fool you in think the contrary. In fact America is the majority of an extremely small percentage of the worlds populace who drinks milk.
Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Eddie - 08-16-2010
Eating of meat isn't the main cause of heart disease. Much worse for the body, are easily metabolizable carbohydrates. The worst culprit is high-fructose corn syrup, nearly all of whicy is converted to fat in the body, as our bodies aren't designed to metabolize fructose (at least, not without a large accompaniment of fiber). A good portion of our current epidemic of obesity may be traced directly to the practice, adopted by industrial food producers in recent years, of putting high-fructose corn syrup in so many processed foods.
Here are a couple of videos on the subject.
Fat America and High-Fructose Corn Syrup
Sugar--the Bitter Truth
By the way, the second of these videos, while very long, is much better than the first, as the doctor shows the metabolic pathways of various sugars in the body, and explains exactly why fructose is so dangerous.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - LsavedSmeD - 08-16-2010
Quote:Cancer
Recent studies show that red meat could pose an increase in cancer risk. Some studies have linked consumption of large amounts of red meat with breast cancer,[9] colorectal cancer,[10][11] stomach cancer,[12] lymphoma,[13] bladder cancer[14] and prostate cancer.[14][15] Furthermore, there is evidence that consumption of beef, pork, lamb, and goat from domesticated animals is a cause of colorectal cancer.[16] Professor Sheila Bingham of the Dunn Human Nutrition Unit attributes this to the haemoglobin and myoglobin molecules which are found in red meat. She suggests these molecules, when ingested trigger a process called nitrosation in the gut which leads to the formation of carcinogens.[17]
Eating cooked red meat may increase the likelihood of cancer because carcinogenic compounds called heterocyclic amines are created during the cooking process. Heterocyclic amines may not explain why red meat is more harmful than other meat, however, as these compounds are also found in poultry and fish, which have not been linked to an increased cancer risk.[18]
A 2009 study by the National Cancer Institute revealed a correlation between the consumption of red meat and increased mortality from cancer and cardiovascular diseases.[19] This study has been criticized for using an improperly validated food frequency questionnaire,[20] which has been shown to have low levels of accuracy [21][22]
[edit]Cardiovascular diseases
Red meat consumption is associated with cardiovascular diseases, possibly because of its high content of saturated fat.[14]
A 1999 study funded by the National Cattlemen's Beef Association, an advocacy group for beef producers, involved 191 persons with high cholesterol on diets where at least 80% of the meat intake came from either lean red meat in one group, or lean white meat in another. The results of this study showed nearly identical cholesterol, and triglyceride levels in both groups. This study suggests that lean red meat may play a role in a low-fat diet for persons with high cholesterol.[23][24]
[edit]Other health issues
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_meat
Same concept as you are portraying in regards to fats and oils.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-16-2010
(08-16-2010, 02:19 PM)Eddie Wrote: Eating of meat isn't the main cause of heart disease. Much worse for the body, are easily metabolizable carbohydrates. The worst culprit is high-fructose corn syrup,
Apparently, there is more than one 'main' cause of heart disease. I agree that refined sugar is also very deadly. It's a tossup as to which is worse, meat or sugar!
Although, many vegetarians still eat a lot of refined sugar, and even after that is accounted for, they still have a lot lower risk of cancer, diabetes and heart disease. So research suggests that, while refined sugar is indeed harmful, meat increases the risk even beyond refined sugar. In other words, when a group of meat-eaters and a group of vegetarians are both studied for heart disease risk, and their refined sugar consumption is the same, the meat-eaters still have a higher risk of heart disease.
Refined sugar is not to be confused with natural sugars found in fruit.
(08-16-2010, 02:50 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Same concept as you are portraying in regards to fats and oils.
I've seen studies that indicate any meat, whether lean or not, red or white, still increases the risk of cancer. This study suggests that red meat increases the risk more than white meat, but what it's not saying is that white meat increases the risk more than no meat.
Also, the cholesterol is the same in white and red meat, as your next quote indicates.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-16-2010
(08-16-2010, 02:50 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote:Quote:191 persons with high cholesterol on diets where at least 80% of the meat intake came from either lean red meat in one group, or lean white meat in another. The results of this study showed nearly identical cholesterol, and triglyceride levels in both groups.
What this is saying is that white meat has just as much cholesterol as red meat. It's a myth that white meat has less cholesterol.
(08-16-2010, 02:50 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote:Quote:This study suggests that lean red meat may play a role in a low-fat diet for persons with high cholesterol.[23][24]
Not sure how the meat industry came up with that conclusion!
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Protonexus - 08-17-2010
A lot of things that we are eating are not even food, they are indigestible mockeries of food. Many of us eat far too many things that clog the digestive system, some even eating so much that they are starving to death for real nutrition - but all passage ways are blocked and alimentary bacteria and yeasts are dead or dying unbalanced. For some of us it is currently impossible to absorb the nutritional elements of the food we eat. We may be eating entirely out of psychological habit and training rather than being hungry, although some of us are so hungry because we are so clogged we can't actually absorb anything of value in the non-food facades.
Meat is a need to do basis, we humans can eat and digest meats but it is not a necessity, especially not a daily one. Eating meat comes at a cost, it is a luxury - a premium.
It is no secret that the large portion of humanity is a massive repository of dangerous chemicals and byproducts of our industrial aspirations that may have been too dangerous to simply "dump into the river." It is no secret that we poison ourselves on purpose - food is a most basic level.
This is what Ra may refer to as a Catalyst.
Grow your own, if you want to eat good pure clean food then grow it yourself and with people you know and trust in a community.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Namaste - 08-17-2010
(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?
Oh my goodness. I have milk on my muesli in the morning. That statement has just thrown that on it's head.
The catch 22 situation is that soya production (for Soya milk in this context), is a rainforest killer.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Aaron - 08-17-2010
(08-17-2010, 09:15 AM)Namaste Wrote:(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?
Oh my goodness. I have milk on my muesli in the morning. That statement has just thrown that on it's head.
The catch 22 situation is that soya production (for Soya milk in this context), is a rainforest killer.
I know! I was just wiping the milk mustache off my mouth as I read LsavedSmeD's post. haha! I know almost every avenue of the discussion of food has been explored, but I'm gonna say this again. I feel that our diet is a source of catalyst for us. The devil's in the details, because it's not exactly what we eat, it's how we eat it. If you look hard enough at anything, you'll find a scary reason not to consume it. As unity100 said, it's about maintaining the attitude of thankfulness and gratitude for not only the food you find in front of you, but the situation you find yourself in as you eat.
And this little gem of wisdom is key to remember: "Everything in moderation."
Our body is so resilient. It can withstand a ton of poison, and still contain our Life for almost a hundred years! Although it's probably true that if we modified our collective diet, (and quite a few aspects of our society) our body would be viable for 400 or 800 years. The point I was making was the ability of our body to withstand punishment.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Ali Quadir - 08-17-2010
(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Milk is also absolutely terrible for you, don't let anyone fool you in think the contrary. In fact America is the majority of an extremely small percentage of the worlds populace who drinks milk.I know, I once downed a bottle in front of 3 Brazillians who looked at me like I was nuts. It's then I figured it out.. It's not a global thing. I however like milk. I've always drank it, and I frequently drink it when it's over date, as long as there are no chunks in it I'm fine.
I don't actually think milk is unhealthy. If you don't over do it, and if your body is adjusted to drinking it. Also when I ate bad food, and my stomach is upset drinking a glass of milk settles it down and stops any heartburn I might experience. I would like to hear what makes you say this. If it's really as bad as you advertise I should be a wreck.
In holland we had an saying that still goes around. Milk is good for anyone.. (Melk is goed voor elk) they had to rectify that of course. But going the other way and saying it's bad for everyone, well that's also not true. The dutch drink a lot of milk. And we're on the whole very healthy people.
(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?And how is this bad? Apart of course from that it shows the cow has been treated badly and that you ingest growth hormones. The puss isn't a problem at all. A bite of any form of meat will have more puss in it (=white bloodcells that attacked pathogens). There is certainly no problem if the milk has been sterilized or pasteurized. I wouldn't recommend ingesting anything that contains puss raw. I don't know how you guys are on for example ice cream milkshakes chocolate milk or flavored milk. They use the milk that is about to go over date for those. They boil it until it's sterile. And add flavor until you can't taste anymore that it actually went bad. And then they sell it. This is also no problem...
Jams, chutneys and apple sauce, ketchups and any product where the ingredients are no longer recognizable are made from mostly fruit that is starting to go bad. The good fruit is more expensive and you don't know the difference anyway. It also really doesn't matter. You won't get sick from eating small doses of overripe fruit.
Our bodies evolved in an environment where the principles of hygiene and cleandliness didn't exist. Yes it's good to clean yourself up. Hygiene is important. But there are strong suggestions that the body responds to sterility with allergies. So overdoing it is bad. Especially when we go to extremes like for example anti bacterial hand lotions.
In my opinion a healthy body is one that encounters a large variety of pathogens in regular doses and developed a healthy resistance against all of them.. A body that lives in a sterile environment tends to go to bits at the first sign of any pathogen.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Protonexus - 08-17-2010
(08-17-2010, 09:15 AM)Namaste Wrote:(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?
Oh my goodness. I have milk on my muesli in the morning. That statement has just thrown that on it's head.
The catch 22 situation is that soya production (for Soya milk in this context), is a rainforest killer.
There is increasing research available that soy milk, or any unfermented soy product is not a good choice for consumption - not to mention the unknown risks associated with GMO soy. Soy milk may be more problematic for health than rBGH induced puss milk.
Coconut, almond, and hemp milk are the better alternatives if you are addicted to milk-like products.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-17-2010
(08-17-2010, 09:15 AM)Namaste Wrote:(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?
Oh my goodness. I have milk on my muesli in the morning. That statement has just thrown that on it's head.
I can sympathize! Nothing like a good dose of reality to put a damper on our favorite foods!
And that's not even counting all the antibiotics and hormones routinely injected into dairy cows (linked to ovarian and uterine cancers in women, breast cancer in both women and men, and early puberty in children).
(08-17-2010, 09:15 AM)Namaste Wrote: The catch 22 situation is that soya production (for Soya milk in this context), is a rainforest killer.
Soy milk, although touted as a health food, is actually highly refined and of questionable health value. Soy is much easier to digest when it's fermented, such as in tofu, tempeh and miso, rather than in the form of soy isolate, as is found in soy milk.
A healthier (and more environmentally friendly) alternative is nut milk. Just take a handful of raw almonds, sunflowers, filberts, hazelnuts or cashews, soak overnight, then blend on high. If using a regular blender, you'll need to strain else it will be gritty. No straining necessary if using a VitaMix. Add honey and a dash of vanilla. YUM!!! Creamy, tasty, and oh so good for you! Rich in protein, calcium, magnesium, and essential fatty acids (the 'healthy' oils). MUCH healthier than either dairy or soy milk.
You can add bananas and strawberries and/or blueberries for a yummy 'milk' shake that even the kiddos will love!
(08-17-2010, 02:19 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: If it's really as bad as you advertise I should be a wreck.
I used to loooooooove milk and cheese. I drank a big glass or 2 of milk at least twice a day. I loved milk and cookies as a child. And as a teen, nearly every meal had a lot of cheese. Pizza, tacos, enchiladas...I live in a city with a large Hispanic population so Mexican food is an everyday thing. CHEESE! With every meal!
I suffered from chronic sinus headaches, and had cold several times per year.
When I gave up milk (at the same time I gave up meat and sugar), I didn't have a single cold or sinus headache for 10 years.
I never gave my son milk. He got mama's milk and later nut milk (and some soy milk before I knew better). He never had a single ear infection. Nearly every other mom I know battles ear infections in her children on a regular basis. I believe the milk has a lot to do with that (although there are certainly other factors too).
That's just my personal story, anecdotal of course. But in the wholistic community it's sort of common knowledge that milk is 'mucus-forming' meaning contributing to colds, sinus problems, constipation, etc. A nutritionist I once knew was fond of calling it 'cement mixer.'
Of course, it might not bother you as much as it did me.
If anyone is ever interested in trying an experiment, it might be fun to see if they notice any difference in their health (or digestion, heartburn, etc.) if they tried giving up meat and dairy for, say, a month.
(08-17-2010, 02:19 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: In holland we had an saying that still goes around. Milk is good for anyone.. (Melk is goed voor elk) they had to rectify that of course. But going the other way and saying it's bad for everyone, well that's also not true. The dutch drink a lot of milk. And we're on the whole very healthy people.
Is that saying a recent saying or does it date back many centuries? Historically, humans drank raw milk. It's only relatively recently that milk has been homogenized and pasteurized. Raw milk and pasteurized milk are completely different. Raw milk has enzymes intact, important for digestion. Pasteurized milk has had the enzymes killed.
Dr. Mercola has some excellent info on the milk controversy:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/14/Choosing-Between-Raw-Milk-and-a-Dead-White-Liquid.aspx
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/03/26/pasteurized-milk-part-one.aspx
Disclaimer: I personally and vehemently disagree with Dr. Mercola's views on meat. But I consider him a valuable source of info. He does a great job of exposing a lot of the corruption in the food and medical industries.
(08-17-2010, 02:19 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: In my opinion a healthy body is one that encounters a large variety of pathogens in regular doses and developed a healthy resistance against all of them.. A body that lives in a sterile environment tends to go to bits at the first sign of any pathogen.
I agree with you on this!
(08-17-2010, 12:45 PM)Aaron Wrote: And this little gem of wisdom is key to remember: "Everything in moderation."
I know that's a common 'gem' but I actually don't agree with it. It seems to imply that anything is ok as long as it's in moderation. I would agree that moderation is generally better than excess, but I don't agree that moderation necessarily makes something 'ok.' Maybe it's the word everything that doesn't resonate with me.
But that's a whole 'nother topic.
(08-17-2010, 12:45 PM)Aaron Wrote: The point I was making was the ability of our body to withstand punishment.
I do see your point! My sister once told me, "If chemicals in the environment affected our health, then people would be dropping like flies." to which I replied, "They ARE!!! Haven't you noticed? Look around you! Take any 10 people and at least 8 of them will have either diabetes, cancer, heart disease, arthritis, or obesity. Look, even children are getting cancer!"
And yet, I continue to meet people who don't even do the basics...for example never drink any water but only sodas...and it amazes me that they still function. So yes, it is amazing that our bodies tolerate as much abuse as they do. At the same time, some people are much more sensitive to the abuse than others. And some are canaries in the coal mine. Some have developed sensitivities and can't even be around cell phones or computers, or eat a single bite of wheat or corn...
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Peregrinus - 08-17-2010
We've had so many food threads on here... all I can say is that since I have become for the most part vegetarian, I have tried (free range) chicken and bison, eggs, milk, cheese, etc... what I have found is that once I have abstained for some time, ingestion of these items can affect me greatly. What I mean is... I can tell you if the animal had a good/bad life and/or a good/bad death. I can tell you if the cow was happy that gave the milk or which the cheese was made from. I can tell you if the chicken was free range or caged when I've eaten an egg.
How am I affected? If the animal to which the product came from was happy, there is no effect. If it was/is unhappy or died badly, I have feelings like the animal had/has, of anxiety, unhappiness, dread, and anger, and they hit me in about 24 hours after ingestion and last for up to 48 hours. I don't care much for these feelings so I have cut most of this out of my diet except for that which I can verify as coming from a source I trust.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - The Truth is in the Light - 08-18-2010
It's amazing that some people can tell how an animal felt when it was alive or dying, or if it was fresh or rotten. It's amazing that some people are able to listen to their bodies, when they have eaten something good or something bad. It's amazing that some people are in tune with their spirits as well as being connected with the plants and animals. It's amazing that some people are in oneness, one love.
When I started listening to my body, it changed the way I ate. I've seen the documentary, and everything that my body was telling me not to eat was what was shown in that video, what was hidden from the public. Education and knowledge is the power to free ourselves from a mindless, brainwashing, robotic society.
The truth starts with listening to ourselves, what makes sense to us, not what makes sense to others. If eating processed, factory-farmed foods is healthy for you, then so be it. But if eating organic, sustainable produced, grass-fed animals makes you feel more alive, more power to you.
Having someone else tell us what to eat/not eat contradicts with our freewill. We all need to learn to listen to that inner voice, our "higher self" and our bodies to know what is good and healthy for us, versus what is decaying and bad for us.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Ali Quadir - 08-18-2010
Hear hear "The Truth is in the Light" absolutes are never representative of truth.
Monica, I'm aware you have strong feelings about foods. But these are your interpretations of your experiences.. I do not have your experiences, when I have a headache, half the time a glass of milk actually helps me. Raw unprocessed milk is good when it comes straight from the cow into your stomach. This is how it works in life. The milk goes straight into the baby. The milk hasn't evolved to be stored. Raw milk is very nourishing. Including to bacteria. Raw milk is therefore highly susceptible to being infected with pathogens. And in spite the fact that the vast majority of people tend to drink processed milk. Unprocessed milk still causes most deaths. Pasteurization is a life saver. Yes this kills off some beneficial ingredients but it kills of the killer ingredients.
This is why throughout history mankind did not drink a lot of milk. We preferred to process milk into diary products.
I am allergic to certain types of processed fat. This is what causes me heartburn, not just that, I get a headache and swollen feeling. I know exactly how to provoke it. A glass of orange juice, even the raw juice and two croissants will get me sick for a day. A glass of milk is effectively a 10 minute anti dote. It will change me from "sick" to "not optimal"... I don't drink large doses of orange juice. And I avoid the type of cookies or bread that contain the fat I'm allergic too.
It's clear what is causing my problem though and it isn't milk.
Besides, if you know what people truly eat across the world while remaining healthy. A variety of raw fish and meats. In the philipines they bury an egg for months, then dig it up and eat it. In iceland they eat shark meat that is left to ferment. The english have a pudding made of coagulated blood.
The words of Christ come up... "It's not what goes into your mouth that defiles you... It's what comes out..."
Eat what your body asks for. Don't worry about the specifics. The body knows and is a lot more flexible than most can imagine. It had to be for the species to survive and evolve up until now.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-18-2010
(08-18-2010, 07:23 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Monica, I'm aware you have strong feelings about foods. But these are your interpretations of your experiences.. I do not have your experiences,
That's right. I was just sharing my experiences. They might be useful to someone. Also, there are many opposing viewpoints on diet. For every alternative doctor saying milk causes excess mucous conditions, there is another doctor saying milk is healthy.
I agree that each person has to decide for themselves. My point is that milk isn't necessarily the health food that the conventional medical system and dairy industry tell us it is, via the mainstream media. There is enormous controversy regarding all animal foods, especially milk. (Diet is inherently controversial anyway. It's now trendy for some alternative doctors to advise against eating fruit. Can you believe it??)
Each person can decide for themselves what to do with that controversy. My point is only that there is controversy. Milk is sort of taken for granted as a 'health food' especially for children. The general population don't even question what they've been taught about milk.
You are apparently lucky in that you are able to digest milk. But many people aren't so lucky, and they have chronic colds and mucous conditions while being clueless that milk may be the culprit. In addition, it's indisputable that conventional, pasteurized, factory-farmed milk is laced with strong hormones. That is reason enough to question the heavy consumption of milk currently advocated by our society. Especially for children who are now developing early.
(08-18-2010, 07:23 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Raw unprocessed milk is good when it comes straight from the cow into your stomach. This is how it works in life. The milk goes straight into the baby.
I have no issue with raw milk from clean, free-ranging cows.
(08-18-2010, 07:23 AM)Ali Quadir Wrote: The milk hasn't evolved to be stored. Raw milk is very nourishing. Including to bacteria. Raw milk is therefore highly susceptible to being infected with pathogens. And in spite the fact that the vast majority of people tend to drink processed milk. Unprocessed milk still causes most deaths. Pasteurization is a life saver. Yes this kills off some beneficial ingredients but it kills of the killer ingredients.
Raw milk doesn't cause deaths here in the US, where raw milk dairies use sanitary measures and the cows are healthy. Of course, in countries where the cows aren't healthy or clean, that is just one among many other hygiene problems. Look at how many people in the world still die from starvation and contaminated water!
But pasteurizing already dirty milk isn't the solution to those in such impoverished conditions. It's just trading one problem for another. They would be so much healthier if they could eat the grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables directly instead of feeding those precious foods to cows. Vegetarian food production is much more efficient.
But I digress...
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - fairyfarmgirl - 08-18-2010
"Blink"--- and now there is a new way of eating that we should all do because it is good for us. Listen to the body and eat what promotes your health. If that is just juice... then go for it... but to become evangelical is to ass-u-me that your "good" intentions will benefit everyone. This is simply not the case.
For instance all the Evangelical Raw Foodist claim Nuts and Berries and Fruits are what you should be eating. Well, some of us have to eat a high Lysine diet in order to live... Nuts and most berries contain high levels of argine and not enough lysine for health for those that have nervous system and autoimmune physical complaints--- so the Intention in effect causes harm to another based on the Assumption that Nuts and Berries and Fruit is the only thing humans are supposed to eat.
Where does that leave the 10 million or so people who are allergic to nuts, strawberries, blueberries, oranges, lemons, pineapple? Nuts ! --fairyfarmgirl
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-18-2010
(08-18-2010, 10:18 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: For instance all the Evangelical Raw Foodist claim Nuts and Berries and Fruits are what you should be eating. Well, some of us have to eat a high Lysine diet in order to live... Nuts and most berries contain high levels of argine and not enough lysine for health for those that have nervous system and autoimmune physical complaints--- so the Intention in effect causes harm to another based on the Assumption that Nuts and Berries and Fruit is the only thing humans are supposed to eat.
Where does that leave the 10 million or so people who are allergic to nuts, strawberries, blueberries, oranges, lemons, pineapple? Nuts ! --fairyfarmgirl
I agree. While I personally feel very drawn to the raw foods diet (I prefer to call it a live-it!), I agree it may not be for everyone. I also agree that some people might need more of this or that, or cannot digest this or that. (Although, incidentally, soaking nuts does make them more digestible by removing the enzyme inhibitors.)
It's also a bit more challenging to do raw foods without the proper equipment. For many years, I couldn't afford a VitaMix or a quality dehydrator. Those tools make a world of difference in being able to prepare raw foods. I'm grateful that the tools exist, but I wish there was a way to do it easily without those expensive tools.
The one I find really amazing is the 'evangelical' stance that no one should ever eat grains. Say, what??? Supposedly grains, even organic whole grains, are this evil thing that causes all problems. Yeah, that one is really trendy right now.
Well one thing's for sure: We sure do have a lot of diets and so-called 'authorities' to choose from!
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - fairyfarmgirl - 08-18-2010
I can not eat wheat which I am allergic to. I am also allergic to nuts and berries--- all my favorite foods... so I eat Rye and buckwheat. Buckwheat of course is not a grain but a seed... it sure does make really great waffles though! I also discovered I could make the same waffles using baking soda instead of baking powder (which has corn it it... something else I am allergic to).
I am however not allergic to eggs and dairy so I still eat those with good results... I have not felt this good since I can remember!
fairyfarmgirl
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RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-19-2010
(08-18-2010, 11:18 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I am also allergic to nuts and berries--- all my favorite foods...
Oh! I'm sorry to hear about your allergy to berries! I love berries!
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - AnthroHeart - 08-25-2010
I can definitely recommend the site: http://notmilk.com/
Lots of articles there about how bad milk is. I've been off it for months, and love my Almond milk and occasionally Soy milk.
I wrote the guy who runs it with some general question and he gets back to you. He's more informed than a lot of people in the dairy industry.
(08-16-2010, 02:10 PM)LsavedSmeD Wrote: The number 1 killer in the United States is heart disease, the number 1 cause of heart disease is meat.
Hmm.
Milk is also absolutely terrible for you, don't let anyone fool you in think the contrary. In fact America is the majority of an extremely small percentage of the worlds populace who drinks milk.
Did you know in each glass of milk there is approximatively 6-9 drops of cow puss and traces of blood from infections caused by over-milking and growth hormones?
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - fairyfarmgirl - 08-25-2010
Ya'Know food fads they come and they go. Milk has been the basis of the human diet for quite sometime and will remain so.
I am allergic to soy, all nuts, and rice. I cook with cows milk and drink it to. I also eat cheese and other milk products. Since I have thrown off the yoke of Political Correct Eating I am healthier and happier.
Anything can be proven. Some people even still think they have proven the Earth is flat.
fairyfarmgirl
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Ali Quadir - 08-25-2010
Hear hear...
It doesn't matter what you eat, it's killing you...
Healthy eating is varied, and guided by instinct.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-25-2010
(08-25-2010, 12:02 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Milk has been the basis of the human diet for quite sometime and will remain so.
True. But not pasteurized, homogenized, antibiotic-and-hormone-laced milk from cows living a painful, tortured, unnatural life. (Not to mention colored cheese in aerosol cans!) That is a relatively new phenomenon, and the repercussions to humans and to the planet haven't all been acknowledged.
(08-25-2010, 12:02 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Since I have thrown off the yoke of Political Correct Eating I am healthier and happier.
Especially since there are so many versions of what's 'politically correct.' Depends on whom you ask! At least with politics, there are only 2 main parties. But with diet, there are numerous opinions. One diet might be considered 'politically correct' to one person while abhorrent to another. (Case in point: The 'caveman' diet which advocates raw meat.) I'm not sure there is such as thing as a politically correct diet, since there are so many!
(08-25-2010, 12:02 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Anything can be proven. Some people even still think they have proven the Earth is flat.
Agreed! And I would add: This works both ways. One can find evidence to believe whatever they wish to believe. One can also find evidence to seemingly disprove that which others may feel is incontrovertible.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Richard - 08-27-2010
LOL...just for fun...guess what I am eating here:
Enriched Bleached Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Vegetable Shortening (Interesterified Soybean Oil, Hydrogenated Soybean Oil and/or Palm Oil), and contains 2% or less of: Leavening (Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Aluminum Sulfate, Corn Starch, Monocalcium Phosphate and/or Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Calcium Sulfate), Salt, Sugar, Preservatives (Calcium Propionate, Sorbic Acid and/or Citric Acid), Dough Conditioners (Fumaric Acid, Sodium Metabisulfite and/or Mono- and Diglycerides).
Richard (scroll down for answer)
A flour tortilla....my god...how did it come to this? A piece of unleavened bread....good grief.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-27-2010
(08-27-2010, 12:55 PM)Richard Wrote: A flour tortilla....my god...how did it come to this? A piece of unleavened bread....good grief.
Case in point! :-/
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - fairyfarmgirl - 08-29-2010
I like Ployes. It is a yummy buckwheat tortilla. Buckwheat and water that is it. Super YUM. Of course, one must make thier own buckwheat tortillas or ployes-- they are super easy to make.
--fairyfarmgirl
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - Monica - 08-31-2010
More on milk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYpafipJyDE&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBBFTpTMUbc&feature=related
(08-29-2010, 09:07 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I like Ployes. It is a yummy buckwheat tortilla. Buckwheat and water that is it. Super YUM. Of course, one must make thier own buckwheat tortillas or ployes-- they are super easy to make.
That sounds great, fairyfarmgirl! Can you tell us how to make them? I have a tortilla-loving husband.
RE: What we are really eating... at least in the U.S. - transiten - 09-01-2010
Guess what i just bought yesterday having arrived back home from the eastcoast and now visiting Bring4th for the 1.st time in months!!!
Ecological, non homogenized, just slightly pasteurized milk from a nearby producer where the cows live a decent life! I actually stopped drinking milk altogether substituting it for ecological oat milk! But i mostly drink Kangenwater these days.
I had just read the 11:11 thread through
Sent you an e-mail Monica eager to get in touch
transiten