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The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Ali Quadir - 08-10-2010
The legends of king Arthur make frequent mention of a mythical island named avalon which is located somewhere near Glastonbury in England. It might actually be the site of Glastonbury cathedral.
This legend is highly edited due to years of oral tradition. And is Englands very own Atlantis or Shangri-La..
The story is that at a time when magic was common and the fae and mythical beasts still roamed the land there was a sacred place from where priests ruled the land with wisdom and peace. Then the modern ways came in carrying Christianity with it. At first the two worlds lived together peacefully. But peace led to competition. As less and less people were open to the ways of Avalon the country began to tear in two. At one side there was the mythical and magical paganism. On the other hand the modern and the Christian. The two lost sight of each other. It is thought on the path we followed that Avalon was ruined, that on the ruins of Avalon the Glastonbury cathedral was built.
However, some say that Avalon was never lost. It is another track in possibility. Those who followed that path. The fay and the mythological beasts are still alive. And living in a realm co-located with our earth. This realm can according to myth be reached by stepping through fairy circles. And by those who either guided by Will-o'-the-wisp's or through training who can follow the paths leading from here to Avalon.
The difference between the realms is a difference in frequency. Often those who have the right energy can catch glimpses of Avalon and it's inhabitants. It's inhabitants also sometimes travel our world.
The analogy with 4th density is obvious. And together with the legends of the aboriginal dreamtime strengthens the idea that 4th density is not a state that is going to appear out of nothing as soon as we're able to perceive it. It's already here, and many of us have visited there or at least glimpsed it. Many of Avalon travel around our world.
But the duality is not just in the land... There are many suggestions that some people are dual natured, living in both realms at the same time.
Wanderers.
The Fairy Child
From the low white walls and the church's steeple
From our little fields under grass or grain,
I'm gone away to the fairy people
I shall not come to the town again.
You may see a girl with my face and tresses,
You may see one come to my mother's door
Who may speak my words and may wear my dresses.
She will not be I, for I come no more.
I am gone, gone far, with the fairies roaming,
You may ask of me where the herons are
In the open marsh when the snipe are homing,
Or when no moon lights nor a single star.
On stormy nights when the streams are foaming
And a hint may come of my haunts afar,
With the reeds my floor and my roof the gloaming,
But I come no more to Ballynar.
Ask Father Ryan to read no verses
To call me back, for I am this day
From blessings far, and beyond curses.
No heaven shines where we ride away.
At speed unthought of in all your stables,
With the gods of old and the sons of Finn,
With the queens that reigned in the olden fables
And kings that won what a sword can win.
You may hear us streaming above your gables
On nights as still as a planet's spin;
But never stir from your chairs and tables
To call my name. I shall not come in.
For I am gone to the fairy people.
Make the most of that other child
Who prays with you by the village steeple
I am gone away to the woods and wild.
I am gone away to the open spaces,
And whither riding no man may tell;
But I shall look upon all your faces
No more in Heaven or Earth or Hell.
~by Lord Dunsanay
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Eddie - 08-10-2010
LLResearch has a farm called Avalon. We're going to have an outing there on September 4th!
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - 3D Sunset - 08-10-2010
Thank you , Ali for sharing the poem of reminding me of the wonderful legend of Avalon.
Love and Light,
3D Sunset
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - @ndy - 08-10-2010
Thanks from me too, Lovely poem
Our Campervan is called Avalon
our daughter almost was but she's Fay instead.
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - fairyfarmgirl - 08-10-2010
Hence my other name--Fairy Farm Girl... LOL
Lovely, Lovely, Lovely post Ali Quadir! I just adore Avalon and King Arthur and the legends of past that always felt like TRUTH to me.
--fairyfarmgirl
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Monica - 08-10-2010
If anyone reading this thread hasn't yet read Marion Zimmer Bradley's masterpiece, The Mists of Avalon, then get thee to a bookstore immediately!
I read the book and then, shortly thereafter, visited the sacred sites in Britain, including Glastonbury Abbey, Chalice Well, Tintagel, Stonehenge, Silbury Hill, and, of course, climbed Glastonbury Tor. The energy there is palpable! I can easily understand why most crop circles occur in Britain.
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - AnthroHeart - 08-11-2010
I like that. I've had glimpses myself to the fairy world, but ever so brief. Just sparkling lights mainly.
This story goes in line very much with what I've been learning lately regarding fictional characters.
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Ali Quadir - 08-11-2010
Awesome that you guys all responded so strongly to the vision of avalon, it demonstrates that it is a land still close by in all our imaginations. I guess we all love to visit it. I think you have all seen vastly more than just glimpses and I hope to clarify why I say that.
Gemini Wolf Wrote:This story goes in line very much with what I've been learning lately regarding fictional characters.
Exactly Gemini.
You have also sensed the direction I wanted to go with this.
The fictional or the imagination is very real in the sense that it reveals to us the presence of options. Without it you're an automaton, with infinite imagination you'd be unlimited in your options.
Did you notice that imagination has structure? These myths like Avalon the fairies or the aboriginal dream time keep coming back in various shapes. Perhaps this means if we move our imagination to travel through the psychoverse we end up in certain areas more often, probably because they're close by. And stories along the same archetypal lines keep coming up. It's where we go to mine the content for our fiction
The fairy realm is a part of our psychoverse which we have excluded from daily existence. To do this we created antagonists that keep reminding us that the imagined is.. duh.. imaginary, and that imaginary is only analogy, not reality.
This is how we keep the worlds separated. But the separation isn't perfect, this realm is very present in our works of fiction. Practically every human tribe in this world has it's own version of what we would call a fairy. Fairy is an ever present part of our collective subconscious. How could you hide something from soul if it is part of soul? What we see in our imagination is often not real but pre real. Not everything we see makes it into 3d, but everything in 3d was pre real once and it was imagined before it became manifest or created. The imagined is a meta reality.
With our inner guide we already know what the story is, that is why we like the images that express these myths so much. They remind is of what we yearn for... But with it also comes the perceived loss. The fall from Eden. Perhaps being a wanderer is a myth based on this yearning. There is certainly analogy there.
That 4d shadowy fairy realm is right here, and so it's no wonder that people who are raising their energy are experiencing her. Its like questioner suggested co-located with earth. It's right here right now, and we know it by heart because the heart deeply yearns for it. What if we expressed our gratitude for having found it and ignore the inner antagonists for a while? Maybe our 3d world is but a distorted expression of oneness. But it is still expressing the same oneness as our imagination. Neither can be irrelevant.
Whenever something that arises in your imagination catches your fancy. It's like a fairy whispering. By following it you approach the land of the fairies. Some call it "Following your enthusiasm". It doesn't matter that there is no apparent connection between the imagined and your goals... It's synchronicity, not logic at work there.
I discovered some of this in conversation with my imaginary friend. He said that the imaginary is real.. But then again.. He would say that wouldn't he?
I second the Mist of Avalon books (book series, movies, miniseries, t-shirts and mugs
) "Finding neverland" is also a brilliant movie. "K-pax" too, but you all already know that one
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Questioner - 08-11-2010
Ali, thank you so much for this delightful post. I might not have time to participate in the discussion for another week or two, but I wanted to acknowledge and thank this wonderful contribution as soon as I could.
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - 3D Sunset - 08-11-2010
Hi Ali,
The whole discussion reminds me a little of Charles Bonnet Syndrome. As a psychologist, I'm sure you're familiar with it. Something about the explanation of these sightings by that syndrome that I always had a problem with is that it does not account for why so many people of diverse backgrounds, and all demonstrably "sane" otherwise, all have such a common set of "hallucinations". Perhaps they, through their various visual deteriorations, are allowed to join with children and actively obserrve this realm.
Thanks again for the reminder of my own childhood friends from that dimension.
3D Sunset
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Ali Quadir - 08-12-2010
Hey 3d sunset.
I am not certain if this syndrome is comparable. I never encountered anyone with it. I have encountered people experiencing hallucinations before though.
There are in my opinion two types of people who experience something out of this world... First the looneys, they see and what they see makes no sense. They do not see the difference between the real and fairy realm and keep mixing them up. If you were to point at a fairy and ask is this real? They'd say yes and could not doubt it. These people have a damaged ego structure or in some cases neurological problems. The hard and software is broken.
There's another version people who know precisely what is normal, and who figure out precisely where what they see is out of the ordinary. If you point at the fairy and ask if it's real they'd say (probably laughing) something like "not in the regular way, but it has it's own realness"... But they would indicate that they realize it's not regular. No mix ups. Their ego structures and brain, hard and software function perfectly, they just see something outside the regular reality and their system can cope with it. Easily if these people have these experiences more often.
This is part of why I prefer to befriend the ego than kill it... In my humble opinion it serves a purpose that we can't do without while in the 3d world.
I think I got that notion from the shamen I worked with. They know the difference between the everyday real and the surreal and they know you can't just mix them up. There are analogies we can learn from but you can't take it literally all the time... It's better when in doubt to accept it as an enigma. In summary, you learn to deal with the paranormal, it's not a given that we can cope with it, the naive interpretation often leads to chaos. Though more people than I'd thought at first can easily deal with it. I think the human mind enjoys entertaining the impossible. It doesn't stress us as much as one might think. Perhaps that's why video games are so popular.
Charles Bonnet Syndrome might be the same, or it might not be. I studied to be a psychologist. But unfortunately that does not make me an expert in every disorder
I don't doubt however that many people active in the occult could be classified under this. Psychology has only a vague awareness of abnormal realities.It reminds me of a strange fact about psychosis. There are people who run into a psychosis once in their lives. Due to medical circumstances, heavy stress or whatever. Those people typically respond in one or two ways. Either they fight it, trying to get it out of their heads. Or they accept it, and don't worry too much about it, learning to see the difference... The former often have more, the latter often have less trouble later in life. The latter actually function better because of it. They tend to master situations. Whatever they are. This to me is the strength demonstrated by an adaptive healthy ego.
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Richard - 08-12-2010
(08-10-2010, 06:48 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: If anyone reading this thread hasn't yet read Marion Zimmer Bradley's masterpiece, The Mists of Avalon, then get thee to a bookstore immediately!
I read the book and then, shortly thereafter, visited the sacred sites in Britain, including Glastonbury Abbey, Chalice Well, Tintagel, Stonehenge, Silbury Hill, and, of course, climbed Glastonbury Tor. The energy there is palpable! I can easily understand why most crop circles occur in Britain.
There is an older book written by Parke Godwin…published in the early eighties, I believe. It’s a fantasy novel wrapped around the historical Arthur. Called Firelord..one of the best Arthurian novels I’ve ever read. A bit out of the norm for books of this type.
You should check it out Monica.
Richard
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Monica - 08-12-2010
(08-12-2010, 05:43 PM)Richard Wrote: There is an older book written by Parke Godwin
Thanks for the recommendation!
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Shemaya - 08-12-2010
(08-10-2010, 06:48 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: If anyone reading this thread hasn't yet read Marion Zimmer Bradley's masterpiece, The Mists of Avalon, then get thee to a bookstore immediately!
I read the book and then, shortly thereafter, visited the sacred sites in Britain, including Glastonbury Abbey, Chalice Well, Tintagel, Stonehenge, Silbury Hill, and, of course, climbed Glastonbury Tor. The energy there is palpable! I can easily understand why most crop circles occur in Britain.
Hi Monica,
Just picked it up today...and don't know why it took me so long, my sister-in-law told me about it years ago!
I got chills just reading the acknowledgements and prologue
Thanks for the nudge :o) That is so wonderful that you were able to visit so soon after reading the book. I feel a draw and connection to the Chalice Well for some reason. How was your visit to that site?
RE: The legend of Avalon, summerland. - Monica - 08-13-2010
(08-12-2010, 07:13 PM)Shemaya Wrote:(08-10-2010, 06:48 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: If anyone reading this thread hasn't yet read Marion Zimmer Bradley's masterpiece, The Mists of Avalon, then get thee to a bookstore immediately!
Hi Monica,
Just picked it up today...and don't know why it took me so long, my sister-in-law told me about it years ago!
I got chills just reading the acknowledgements and prologue
You are in for a treat! It's quite a page-turner. It focuses on the story told thru the eyes of the Druid women. It has very little actual action, but lots of magick and Goddess worship, and is very emotionally evocative.
Note: It's a very deep, intense book! I felt emotionally spent but very enriched after having read it. And 23 years later, I still remember events and characters so well.
They did a tv movie. It was ok I guess but lacked the depth and intensity. I would suggest definitely reading the book first.
(08-12-2010, 07:13 PM)Shemaya Wrote: Thanks for the nudge :o) That is so wonderful that you were able to visit so soon after reading the book. I feel a draw and connection to the Chalice Well for some reason. How was your visit to that site?
The whole trip was amazing! I didn't have any particular experience at Chalice Well. I did, however, have very intense experiences at these sites:
Glastonbury Abbey (could feel chakras opening, in a tangible way, as I walked the path thru the ruins)
Tor Hill (WOW!!! Intensely powerful vortex of energy! and physical too...nearly got blown off! I could see how Avalon could be hidden there.)
Silbury Hill (Goddess' pregnant belly)
Callanish (each standing stone was supposedly a wizard frozen in stone...I believe it! as each had a face...this was also where I saw the dragon)
Stonehenge (actually the place has become so touristy that a lot has been lost, but it's still a powerful place)
Westminster Abbey (I suspected one my past lives ended up being buried there perhaps!)
Findhorn (magickal gardens! really beautiful)
I feel honored and grateful to have taken that journey.
I'll post some pix later...