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How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - sjel - 09-20-2016 Quote:Ra: It is also to be noted that an adept is one which has freed itself more and more from the constraints of the thoughts, opinions, and bonds of other-selves. Is the joyful independence simply a byproduct of awakening? Or are there meditative techniques I can practice to release myself from other-selves' opinions. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - Jade - 09-20-2016 I think it's both? I think as one, through meditation, begins to "pierce the veil" and "see things more as they are", it creates a distance from those that are still "plugged into the matrix". I think it's a byproduct of indigo-ray activation. As one begins to affirm and recognize the perfection of the moment (exercising will & faith), the freedom from judgement occurs. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - AnthroHeart - 09-20-2016 (09-20-2016, 05:31 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I think it's both? I think as one, through meditation, begins to "pierce the veil" and "see things more as they are", it creates a distance from those that are still "plugged into the matrix". I love this! RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints - Plenum - 09-20-2016 (09-20-2016, 05:20 PM)sjel Wrote: Is the joyful independence simply a byproduct of awakening? Or are there meditative techniques I can practice to release myself from other-selves' opinions. I think it is more about coming to your own conclusions about things; rather than accepting society's cookie-cutter, standard viewpoints. This ties into the activation of blue-ray self-independence, co-creative type mindset. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - YinYang - 09-20-2016 sjel Wrote:Is the joyful independence simply a byproduct of awakening? Or are there meditative techniques I can practice to release myself from other-selves' opinions. Sometimes it happens because of a traumatic event, I would say many times in fact. I have read many peoples' stories where they were punched in the stomach by life, and part of their "comeback" resulted in not caring what others think anymore. My story is along those lines, and the getting up again happened in conjunction with meditation, contemplation and prayer. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - AnthroHeart - 09-20-2016 It seems like the more pain you experience here, the more pleasurable you will find the afterlife to be. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - YinYang - 09-20-2016 (09-20-2016, 06:52 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: It seems like the more pain you experience here, the more pleasurable you will find the afterlife to be. You can have the joy in this life, Gem, no need to wait for the "afterlife". Quote:Ra: Even the most unhappy of experiences, shall we say, which seem to occur in the Catalyst of the adept, seen from the viewpoint of the spirit, may, with the discrimination possible in shadow, be worked with until light equaling the light of brightest noon descends upon the adept and positive or service-to-others illumination has occurred. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selv - Jade - 09-20-2016 Upon reflection, it's probably possible to tie this phenomenon to almost each chakra, orange on up - in that as one becomes individuated and accepts themselves as a part of the pack but still outside of it, they must struggle with acceptance of many things, which in turn allows the faculty of judgement to fall away. It reminds me of this: Quote:80.20 Questioner: Sorry about that. Can you tell me what the twentieth archetype would be? So, my guess is that a key is that it ties into conscious use of the Transformation cards, particularly picking oneself up in the spirit cycle after the lightning collapses the tower (potentiator). In fact, the original quote is from discussion of the Matrix. It's the honor/duty of using applied knowledge/awareness to create a better reality. Quote:80.10 Questioner: Now, the fifteenth archetype, which is the Matrix of the Spirit, has been called the Devil. Can you tell me why that is so? You gain spiritual insights (potentiator). To go further along the path, you must apply this knowledge to "wake up" out of third density separation. You have two choices upon which to spend your spiritual energy offered by the Faith (catalyst) card: You can choose to take no actions, to disengage, to return all energy to the void (or hoard it for the self), or you can choose to pull from the watery depths of the subconscious to create out of love, to still interact with the third density sphere that we are all a part of, with hope to create beauty. Even if everyone else in the world is telling you otherwise, you have Faith that you are doing the right thing (looking away from that which you are creating - no attachment to the perceived outcome). RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - AnthroHeart - 09-20-2016 (09-20-2016, 06:55 PM)YinYang Wrote:(09-20-2016, 06:52 PM)IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote: It seems like the more pain you experience here, the more pleasurable you will find the afterlife to be. I think the secret of that is to become one of your parallel selves. I wonder if it just takes imagination, and how you really do it. RE: How may I begin to free myself… - rva_jeremy - 09-20-2016 I think Jade has got great advice for you. I just wanted to concur that there seems to be an orange-indigo connection with worthiness and self-esteem. The immediate source for this assertion stems from this Q'uo reading. I'll excerpt the relevant part here, but the entire thing is amazing: Q\uo Wrote:We would say to the questioner that it is well to come into a relationship with the self in which there is no fear, no tension, no judgment, and no tendency towards discouragement. The days of an incarnation are very limited and it is well to win freedom from the judgment towards the self that compromises that relationship of self to self. This instrument has often described the desired result of such work as falling in love with the self. When you are in love with someone, they can do no wrong. They might make an error, but it is a small thing. The essence of that person is so appreciated and seen in such a strong and clear light that there are simply ways to love that entity based on their imperfections as well as their perfections. (my emphasis) The point here is that there is a connection between orange ray issues of self-to-self and indigo ray opening of the gateway, the activity that exemplifies the adept. This, I suppose I'm saying, is a potential root of this connection between freeing oneself from others' opinions as a step on the path to adepthood. This completely reinforces everything Jade is saying. Secondly, there's a Laitos reading that deals intensively with low self worth issues centered on the orange ray. It deals with humiliation which of course is a function of one's relation to others' thoughts: Q\uo Wrote:It is our experience that in order to heal in this area [of humiliation], it is necessary to return to that feeling of lowness and to embrace it, to accept it, to love it, and to allow it to be a part of the self and its beingness that is indeed not separate from others, not separate from the one infinite Creator. I hope you find these as helpful as I do! RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - Dog Star - 09-21-2016 live in a cave(?), if you want to interact with other-selves karma will manifest, "release myself from other-selves" impossible imo, maybe for a "short" while if you go sts, either way (;s) RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - sjel - 09-21-2016 (09-20-2016, 05:31 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I think it's both? I think as one, through meditation, begins to "pierce the veil" and "see things more as they are", it creates a distance from those that are still "plugged into the matrix". ok, i like that. I guess the thing i get caught up on is the "distance" part. John C Lilly said that the goal of his meditative practices was to become both "very close up" and "very far away" at the same time. having a firm foot in both the astral world and this world, essentially. so i guess i don't want to create a distance between me and the asleep entity - i want to love them wholeheartedly! Or are you saying that you love them from a distance? RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - Dog Star - 09-21-2016 what keeps you away from them? either way, you know your answer. *whistles* RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - Jade - 09-21-2016 (09-21-2016, 01:22 AM)sjel Wrote:(09-20-2016, 05:31 PM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I think it's both? I think as one, through meditation, begins to "pierce the veil" and "see things more as they are", it creates a distance from those that are still "plugged into the matrix". If you have to start from a distance, that's okay, but ideally, we're here to interact with others, in the physical realm. As per Ra - start with the mind, then move on to the body, as it is from the mind that physical reality is then created. RE: How may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - YinYang - 09-21-2016 IndigoGeminiWolf Wrote:I think the secret of that is to become one of your parallel selves. I wonder if it just takes imagination, and how you really do it. Ha-ha, no need for fancy tricks like that, it's all inside of you, the whole universe. An infinite fountainhead that never dries up! The Art of Meditation Wrote:People throughout all time have sought freedom, peace, and plenty; but their search has been primarily through the feverish activity of the human mind. Pleasure and satisfaction have been artificially created, and because of their artificiality, they are neither permanent nor real. Living out from the level of the mind, there must be a continuous round of new pleasures, new faces, and new scenes. There is rarely a truly joyous moment, nor are there periods of rest and relaxation. Freedom, peace, and plenty are not dependent upon circumstances or conditions. Men have been free in chains; they have been free under slavery and oppression; they have found peace in the midst of war; they have survived floods and famine; they have prospered in periods of depression and panic. When the Soul of man is free, it carries him through Red Seas and desert experiences to the Promised Land of spiritual peace. Freedom is a condition of the Soul. As we turn to the kingdom of our inner Self, we find the reign of divine Power in the outer world. As we seek peace within, we find harmony without. We reach the depth of the Soul, and It takes over our existence, providing activity and newness of life, a peace and serenity, the like of which we have never dreamed. We then have achieved the freedom of the Soul, the freedom of grace. H may I begin to free myself from the constraints of the thoughts of other-selves? - Parsons - 09-21-2016 My opinion based on personal experience: It is much less effective to focus on that aspect of adepthood than it is to focus on the core tenet of adepthood: balance. I decided adepthood was the only worthy pursuit that I could find in this life a few years ago. Since then, in terms of metaphysical pursuits, I have almost exclusively focused on balancing emotionally charged thoughts and situations with their opposite after I naturally let myself experience the catalyst at hand. I didn't consciously keep track of nor really care about my progress, yet found myself much, much further down that path than I thought possible. So I think the real question for you is: are you truly interested in the path of the adept? Or do you just want to avoid being influenced by the transient aspects of society? Either is perfectly valid, of course. If you are truly interested in adepthood (which I think should not be taken lightly), not being influenced by societal beliefs comes as a fringe benefit. |