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Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - jason - 04-30-2016 Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? Apologies if this has been answered - I don't have the strength or will to search. There was an interesting exchange where Don asked Ra if he could ask this question - Ra said he may. And then it seemed Don got sidetracked in that exchange. I think it's when Ra first told them they were all Wanderers. Obviously they were and probably the vast majority of people posting here or who read this forum. Ra did say the majority of Wanderers on Earth were from their soul group. Just searching for answers TIA RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - spero - 04-30-2016 Quote:Ra: I am Ra. A significant portion of sixth-density Wanderers are those of our social memory complex. Another large portion consists of those who aided those in South America; another portion, those aiding Atlantis. All sixth density and all brother and sister groups due to the unified feeling that as we had been aided by shapes such as the pyramid, so we could aid your peoples. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - darklight - 04-30-2016 I think Don was the wanderer of late 5th density. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Jade - 04-30-2016 I agree, and I think this quote is the "answer". One of these densities describes Don, the other describes Jim and Carla. Quote:32.9 Questioner: I am assuming from what we have previously looked at… we have on Earth today and have had in the past fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-density Wanderers. As they come into incarnation in the physical of this density for a period as a Wanderer, what types of polarizations with respect to these various rays do they find affecting them? Can you tell me that? RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Zach - 05-01-2016 (04-30-2016, 10:36 AM)darklight Wrote: I think Don was the wanderer of late 5th density. Interesting, because I always thought of Don and Carla as being from sixth and Jim from fifth. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Infinite Unity - 05-01-2016 (05-01-2016, 05:25 PM)Zach Wrote:(04-30-2016, 10:36 AM)darklight Wrote: I think Don was the wanderer of late 5th density. That's also of how I thought of it. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Lovelyfaith - 05-02-2016 (04-30-2016, 10:42 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I agree, and I think this quote is the "answer". One of these densities describes Don, the other describes Jim and Carla. I'm terribly sorry, but can someone explain what he means by this to a newb (6th density)? I can't tell if it means someone whom refrains from sex or someone who wants to become one with someone, ya no idea.. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Verum Occultum - 05-02-2016 (05-02-2016, 03:23 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote: I'm terribly sorry, but... It appears that beings in 6D reproduce by becoming one in mind/body/spirit. The result or emanation of light would be the offspring which is the Self. Ra is saying that the wanderers of the 6th density who are incarnated on Earth are likely not to have sex, but to seek the like-minded other self or selves with whom to become unified beyond ego-identifications. This is possible here and now. Quote:I am Ra. The entire creation is of the One Creator. Thus the division of sexual activity into simply that of the bodily complex is an artificial division, all things thusly being seen as sexual equally, the mind, the body, and the spirit; all of which are part of the polarity of the entity. Thus sexual fusion may be seen with or without what you may call sexual intercourse to be the complete melding of the mind, the body, and the spirit in what feels to be a constant orgasm, shall we say, of joy and delight each in the other’s beingness. Does this answer your question sufficiently? RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Jade - 05-03-2016 What Ra is saying in that quote is that 6th density entities tend to have sexual intercourse to further their polarization as opposed to reproduction purposes. This usually involves dedication to each other, because there is a lot of service to be achieved with green ray ++ sexual energy transfers. Also, Ra says that male/female mates are the most "efficient" to allow further polarization. A 6th density entity is here to subtly refine their service. So, in context: Don and Carla had a very non-traditional "marriage", per Don's desires. (5th density) Don was celibate (also non-traditional) and this was not how Carla wanted to live - so she sought out another entity (Jim) and they had a ("fusion") sexual relationship. Throughout the years their sexual relationship was refined to the point where they didn't even have to have intercourse to give each other orgasms. And there was much service in Jim offering Carla his stores of extra physical energy, as she had very little of her own. Ra also mentions that refined couples experience the "constant orgasm of joy" of being with each other - again, I think, hinting at what it means to experience "fusion" sex - you get to the point where the exchange of energy is almost constant. Ra says this is with or without intercourse involved. Quote:32.10 Questioner: Can you expand a little bit on what you mean by “complete fusion nature?” What Ra says about "refraining from bisexual reprogramming" he means that 6th density entities aren't mating to reproduce, but mating to experience the high level sexual magic that can occur when paired. Ra says that indigo ray sexual intercourse really helps develop the will and faith, helping crystallize the indigo chakra. Quote:84.21 Questioner: Is there any way to tell which ray the transfer was for an individual after the experience? Is there any way for the individual to tell in which particular ray the transfer occurred? RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Lovelyfaith - 05-04-2016 That makes sense, thank you. So what do you think would happen if a 6th density being did reproduce? Would that being be apart of their social memory complex/ a random wanderer or would this child be a portion of your soul, like a twin flame type? Interesting about the energy transfers, I'm assuming the indigo-ray transfer would be from the use of tantric sex, or something similar? And the transfer of lower energy centers, would this then bring about a blockage or an imbalance if those were transferred you think? RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Jade - 05-04-2016 Hi lovelyfaith, If a 6th density entity were to reproduce, I think any and all of the above are possible. The paths of service for two 6th density entities are infinite, they could take on a soul group member, they could take on another soul group member for the diversity, they could take on an early 4D entity that wants parents that are solid teachers, etc. Ra does mention tantric sex as one means to achieve higher level sexual energy transfers. Really, it's about being aware of your partner energetically, and having basic chakra knowledge. Ra says positive energy transfers are green ray and above, so being blocked in the lower energy centers can cause negative energy transfers. Ra says the signs of a negative sexual energy transfer are desiring to possess another or be possessed by another, and orgasm denial. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Verum Occultum - 08-10-2016 Quote:Ra: "...Two are a sixth-density origin, one a fifth-density harvestable to sixth but choosing to return as a Wanderer due to a loving association between teacher and student. Thus you three form a greatly cohesive group." Quote:Ra: "...The questioner, in full ignorance of the firm intent of the instrument and not grasping the possibility of any such energy transfer, agreed. Questioner and instrument have been as one being (density of unity?) Quote:Ra: "The entity which has been your companion has a vibratory frequency but a small amount lesser than that of the social memory complex known as Latwii. Also, Latwii is the primary comforter of the Confederation for entities seeking at the vibratory complex level of the one known as Jim." (Latwii harvestable from 5D to 6D?) Quote:Q'uo: "...for we of Latwii have been able, with the help of our teachers, those of Ra, to offer information in a way which is clearer and more compassionate..." As I see it, it's probable that Jim is from Latwii and Don & Carla from Ra. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Billy - 08-10-2016 (08-10-2016, 09:44 AM)Verum Occultum Wrote:Quote:Ra: "The entity which has been your companion has a vibratory frequency but a small amount lesser than that of the social memory complex known as Latwii. Also, Latwii is the primary comforter of the Confederation for entities seeking at the vibratory complex level of the one known as Jim." I took that Ra quote as meaning that Latwii was offering their service to Jim, not because he is of them, but because of his 'vibratory frequency'. That does make it sound as though Jim is of fifth, with Carl and Don being of sixth. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - AnthroHeart - 08-11-2016 I think that fifth density is freer than sixth, since Ra does say that fifth density is extremely free. So being from fifth has some advantages. Plus you get to work alone if you desire. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - kycahi - 09-02-2016 (05-02-2016, 03:23 PM)Lovelyfaith Wrote:(04-30-2016, 10:42 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: I agree, and I think this quote is the "answer". One of these densities describes Don, the other describes Jim and Carla. The following is something that I post occasionally because it gets pushed so far back into B4th forum history. I call it the "Seven Levels of Consciousness," and I derived it by multiple reads of any mention of densities or consciousness in the LOO.
The Seven Levels of Consciousness are useful in many ways. They are nested, for example. I thought about the first seven years of life and saw parallels with this, and every grouping of seven years, too. The 7th birthday starts the second level of the year groupings, the 14th birthday starts the third level. So those age 14 to 20 have awareness of others and begin full exploration of sexuality. Age 21 begins many people's working in compassion for others, such as coaxing government toward programs to help the disadvantaged. I hope this offers some grounding in the levels and densities. [Edited to add "/control" in the STS reference.] RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Jade - 04-19-2017 Read this the other day. It's merely trivia, but it seems to confirm that Jim is of sixth density: Quote:59.3 Questioner: I have a question from Jim that states: “I think I have penetrated the mystery of my lifelong anger at making mistakes. I think I have always been aware subconsciously of my abilities to master new learnings, but my desire to successfully complete my mission on Earth has been energized by the Orion group into irrational and destructive anger when I fail. Could you comment on this observation?” RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - DungBeetle - 04-22-2017 (04-30-2016, 04:13 AM)spero Wrote:Quote:Ra: I am Ra. A significant portion of sixth-density Wanderers are those of our social memory complex. Another large portion consists of those who aided those in South America; another portion, those aiding Atlantis. All sixth density and all brother and sister groups due to the unified feeling that as we had been aided by shapes such as the pyramid, so we could aid your peoples. Now since these three are 5-6th density beings, is there a reason why they have the veil on? Just depends on the "mission"? I know HH said he and his families veils are mostly gone. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Jade - 04-24-2017 5-6th density positive Wanderers incarnate with a heavier veil than say, the early 4th density entities who are incarnating now, because their powers of spirit are more developed and therefore it would be an infringement to incarnate without a heavy veil. Wanderers incarnate for the experience of being human, not of being a god among humans. Quote:65.19 Questioner: [chuckles] Thank you. The forgetting process was puzzling me because you said that the fourth-density activated people who were here who had been harvestable did not have the same forgetting problem. Could you tell me why the Wanderer loses his memory? RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Infinite - 04-24-2017 (04-24-2017, 11:58 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote:Quote:However, it would be an infringement if Wanderers penetrated the forgetting so far as to activate the more dense bodies and thus be able to live, shall we say, in a god-like manner. This would not be proper for those who have chosen to serve. Were the particular missions of Jesus, Sidarta Gautama, etc. that needed of a loose veil? Peace, love and light. RE: Was Don, Carla, and Jim Wanderers from the Ra soul group? - Jade - 04-24-2017 Oh yeah, pretty sure Ra says that Jesus penetrated the veil quite quickly. Quote:17.18 Questioner: Then if the entity Jesus was fourth density and there are Wanderers on the planet today who came from fifth and sixth density, what was it that Jesus did that enabled him to be such a good healer and could these fifth- and sixth-density beings here today do the same? |