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Question about Ra wanderers - cloud - 02-02-2016
How does Ra have wanderers incarnate on Earth if an incarnational cycle of Ra is some millions of years, is Ra discarnate, or does persons of Ra just out of the blue decide to die to incarnate on Earth?
It's a hard question to ask and I wish I could explain the question better, I hope it's sufficent enough to convey the meaning behind the query.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Jade - 02-02-2016
I think it's helpful to think of incarnations as avatars of the Higher self/social memory complex. In the game of Earth, Ra is multiboxing in the millions.
I'm not sure if that's sufficient enough to explain, so to extrapolate...
Ra is 6th density, and everything we know of 3D density are within the greater reaches of all of 6th density. So, to take the analogy further, the whole game of say, World of Warcraft, is contained within reach in my reality. I may not know everything of it but I am able to examine it from all angles externally, in ways that I can't as a character within the game and its limitations. To roll a new character, I don't have to die, I just create a new one out of infinity, and can delete it at whim, too.
So within Ra's millions of years incarnational cycle, is contained infinite births and deaths of 3rd density cycles. Literally, because time as a restriction in this sense isn't real. Ra's 76million year incarnational cycle is really meant to mean next to nothing to us, because we exist within the confines of a limited, linear view of time.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-02-2016
Ra exists as pure light, so they don't have 'incarnation' like we do. They do not experience the cycle of death and rebirth in their natural state as 6D is outside of linear time. However, they still describe themselves as being 'many', which suggests that even though the Ra memory complex all share one identity, they appear to have many individuations. Thus, I think Ra has a fractal awareness not restricted to One body because of the features of the Social Memory Complex.
So, I think a 'Ra entity' can choose to incarnate individually without disrupting the unity of the SMC because they are holographic, the whole is contained in every part. Incarnation is a matter of moving across densities, so these M/B/S of Ra would likely activate their yellow-ray bodies which would move the kinetic focus of their being in to that body and their current indigo-ray bodies would go in to potentiation.
They actually only mention their place in the 'Harvest cycle', and incarnation always refers to coming in to 3D, so it seems to me they do not die or be reborn in their current state. They say that in 5D at some point the need to recycle the body becomes unnecessary.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - AnthroHeart - 02-02-2016
Is Ra's home in the sun?
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-02-2016
No, I don't believe so. I actually strongly believe they 'reside' or are focused in the Pleiades with numerous other SMCs, which is where I believe the 'base' of the Confederation is.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - AnthroHeart - 02-02-2016
I think that Sirius has some/many entities in it. If the sun is a portal, I believe it's connected to Sirius.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-02-2016
Aion, sorry for the off topic question...
How would you describe Ra placing themselves in 'our' 5D density in order to work with 3D Earth?
Do they perform as you said regards incarnation or would you say they can 'move' from their native density similarily to how we move from Point A to Point B?
Also, does Ra have a 'discarnate' state similar to a 6D 'Afterlife'?
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Ankh - 02-02-2016
Ra said that they are now in *our* fifth dimension, and have been there since Egypt, which I think means that they are here in inner planes of our Earth.
Then my understanding is that a Wanderer needs to put all of its higher density bodies to sleep, before incarnating in 3D space/time. So yeah, cloud, if a Ra Wanderer decides to incarnate on Earth, I think that it has to "die" in its current vibration, or go to sleep so to speak, before coming into incarnation here. Probably those Ra Wanderers who were in time/space are incarnated here. Those who are in space/time 6D incarnations did probably not wander.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - APeacefulWarrior - 02-03-2016
I also sometimes wonder if other members of Ra's S-M-C go down to Earth in his stead. Ie, if there's a 5D who is part of Ra's S-M-C and therefore part of Ra, and that 5D decides to go incarnate on Earth for whatever reason, the resulting human would be "of Ra" as well as also being their own entity. It would even make a certain amount of sense if there were 4Ds and 5Ds in his complex who "specialized" in incarnating, or simply enjoyed doing it, and were the ones most likely to take spins on the merry-go-round.
But of course since Ra never went into any real detail about this process, this is all pure speculation.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-03-2016
(02-02-2016, 10:37 PM)Ankh Wrote: Ra said that they are now in *our* fifth dimension, and have been there since Egypt, which I think means that they are here in inner planes of our Earth.
Then my understanding is that a Wanderer needs to put all of its higher density bodies to sleep, before incarnating in 3D space/time. So yeah, cloud, if a Ra Wanderer decides to incarnate on Earth, I think that it has to "die" in its current vibration, or go to sleep so to speak, before coming into incarnation here. Probably those Ra Wanderers who were in time/space are incarnated here. Those who are in space/time 6D incarnations did probably not wander.
I actually disagree in the case of Ra. I think it is more like taking a bottle of water out of the ocean. That water still is part of and naturally will fit back with the ocean, it is just temporarily 'separated' or veiled. However, I do believe that what you say is true up until 6D to an extent. One thing is that in 6D I believe one dwells equally between time/space and space/time, so I don't think they have a difference between inner and outer like we do.
Ra said there were at least 6 Million Ra wanderers at the time of the contact, so obviously the greater entity of Ra doesn't die or vanish when one of their SMC wanders.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-03-2016
(02-02-2016, 08:31 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Aion, sorry for the off topic question...
How would you describe Ra placing themselves in 'our' 5D density in order to work with 3D Earth?
Do they perform as you said regards incarnation or would you say they can 'move' from their native density similarily to how we move from Point A to Point B?
Also, does Ra have a 'discarnate' state similar to a 6D 'Afterlife'?
Ra discusses vibrational translation across densities, but they also profess to be able to clothe themselves in forms and to manipulate molecules using intelligent energy, so it appears to me they can essentially exist in any density below their own because the densities are inclusive. 3D entity has access to 3D and below, 4D has access to 4D and below, 5D gets 5D below and 6D has access to 6D and below.
So, I think that Ra can translate themselves to any density because in 6D they are actually part of every density. I think when a Ra wanderer incarnates it is only in to 3D. I believe wanderers only exist in 3D and there is no such thing in 4D and above. There are those who move and change, but I specifically mean an entity who goes through the forgetting and under the veil.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-03-2016
I too feel like Wandering is a 3D act, I however ponder if 7D and 8D and above can reincarnate into 3D...
It is noteworthy that Ra is outside of Time, so apparently Space is treated similarly.
Its interesting. I wish we had a similar Material as the Ra Material from another 6D entity to see what is Personality characteristics vs Density state characteristics.
But maybe this isn't the place(ment) for being exposed to such.
Immortality sounds fun when not stuck on a teenytiny little rock, but can traverse Infinity.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - BlatzAdict - 02-03-2016
I wish they made it easier to understand for most people Ra is a group of souls who have come to the same alignment in understanding and experience and work as one, but they are really a whole society of individual souls.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - APeacefulWarrior - 02-03-2016
Yeah, collective minds are kinda hard to get a handle on at first.
The trick, I think, is realizing they aren't an either/or, but rather existing simultaneously as both individuals and gestalt. The individuals are "doing their own thing" independently even as they collectively add up to Ra, in vaguely the same way one's stomach and white blood cells and whatnot have their own existence while also adding up to the body as a whole. We're just talking about minds/spirits working in parallel, rather than physical components. The personalities are simultaneous and overlapping.
(Then for bonus points, consider that Ra is only one part of Q'uo, and realize that it's nested systems-within-systems all the way down.
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RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-03-2016
I think incarnation would cease at the same point the Higher Self exists because that is the last 'looking back' before one moves forward towards the gateway of 7D. That moment is basically like the final cut and draft before publishing.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - AnthroHeart - 02-03-2016
Maybe Ra has reached higher self status already.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-04-2016
That would be a good explanation for why they seemed to be focused on 'looking back' to help those in the densities below them.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Parsons - 02-04-2016
(02-02-2016, 01:54 PM)Aion Wrote: No, I don't believe so. I actually strongly believe they 'reside' or are focused in the Pleiades with numerous other SMCs, which is where I believe the 'base' of the Confederation is.
Would you please expand on this? Since awakening, I've felt that there is something profoundly special about the Pleiades (at least in terms of our local neighborhood).
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-04-2016
(02-04-2016, 05:51 AM)Parsons Wrote:(02-02-2016, 01:54 PM)Aion Wrote: No, I don't believe so. I actually strongly believe they 'reside' or are focused in the Pleiades with numerous other SMCs, which is where I believe the 'base' of the Confederation is.
Would you please expand on this? Since awakening, I've felt that there is something profoundly special about the Pleiades (at least in terms of our local neighborhood).
Where 'humans' first emerged in the galaxy and the source of the vibratory spectrum which gives rise to the human DNA pattern. Also HQ of the many Confederations (and other types of groups) from which the processes of the whole galaxy are watched over. In a way you could consider our planet to be under its responsibility. There is a 'neutral' council which does not get involved directly with planets but helps to resolve intergalactic disputes and acts as a watchdog. The Council of Saturn communicates directly with this Council.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Minyatur - 02-04-2016
Always felt I'll need to go to the Pleiades, can feel a calling.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - cloud - 02-04-2016
(02-04-2016, 01:03 PM)Aion Wrote:(02-04-2016, 05:51 AM)Parsons Wrote:(02-02-2016, 01:54 PM)Aion Wrote: No, I don't believe so. I actually strongly believe they 'reside' or are focused in the Pleiades with numerous other SMCs, which is where I believe the 'base' of the Confederation is.
Would you please expand on this? Since awakening, I've felt that there is something profoundly special about the Pleiades (at least in terms of our local neighborhood).
Where 'humans' first emerged in the galaxy and the source of the vibratory spectrum which gives rise to the human DNA pattern. Also HQ of the many Confederations (and other types of groups) from which the processes of the whole galaxy are watched over. In a way you could consider our planet to be under its responsibility. There is a 'neutral' council which does not get involved directly with planets but helps to resolve intergalactic disputes and acts as a watchdog. The Council of Saturn communicates directly with this Council.
I have never heard of the 'nuetral council' before, can you describe or link where this information comes from? My curiousity is hungry
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Aion - 02-04-2016
(02-04-2016, 06:04 PM)cloud Wrote:(02-04-2016, 01:03 PM)Aion Wrote:(02-04-2016, 05:51 AM)Parsons Wrote:(02-02-2016, 01:54 PM)Aion Wrote: No, I don't believe so. I actually strongly believe they 'reside' or are focused in the Pleiades with numerous other SMCs, which is where I believe the 'base' of the Confederation is.
Would you please expand on this? Since awakening, I've felt that there is something profoundly special about the Pleiades (at least in terms of our local neighborhood).
Where 'humans' first emerged in the galaxy and the source of the vibratory spectrum which gives rise to the human DNA pattern. Also HQ of the many Confederations (and other types of groups) from which the processes of the whole galaxy are watched over. In a way you could consider our planet to be under its responsibility. There is a 'neutral' council which does not get involved directly with planets but helps to resolve intergalactic disputes and acts as a watchdog. The Council of Saturn communicates directly with this Council.
I have never heard of the 'nuetral council' before, can you describe or link where this information comes from? My curiousity is hungry
I didn't get that information from a link, it came through meditation, memories and a vessel. The Moirae confirmed the memories for us and gave us further information.
I will look and see if I can find correlations in other works though.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Adonai One - 02-04-2016
I think I am Ra.
When I ask to see my soul, I get a vision of a golden octopus hugging the Earth, each tentacle being a figurative person. I wish to hug all planets and the universe in the same way.
I make this simple response to ease understanding.
I see people in the street. I know they are me. And I leave them in complete confidence, even if they were in trouble, as I know my will was immediately responsible.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Ankh - 02-05-2016
(02-03-2016, 03:22 AM)Aion Wrote:(02-02-2016, 10:37 PM)Ankh Wrote: Ra said that they are now in *our* fifth dimension, and have been there since Egypt, which I think means that they are here in inner planes of our Earth.
Then my understanding is that a Wanderer needs to put all of its higher density bodies to sleep, before incarnating in 3D space/time. So yeah, cloud, if a Ra Wanderer decides to incarnate on Earth, I think that it has to "die" in its current vibration, or go to sleep so to speak, before coming into incarnation here. Probably those Ra Wanderers who were in time/space are incarnated here. Those who are in space/time 6D incarnations did probably not wander.
I actually disagree in the case of Ra. I think it is more like taking a bottle of water out of the ocean. That water still is part of and naturally will fit back with the ocean, it is just temporarily 'separated' or veiled. However, I do believe that what you say is true up until 6D to an extent. One thing is that in 6D I believe one dwells equally between time/space and space/time, so I don't think they have a difference between inner and outer like we do.
Ra said there were at least 6 Million Ra wanderers at the time of the contact, so obviously the greater entity of Ra doesn't die or vanish when one of their Social Memory Complex wanders.
It doesn't actually matter what happens to them in their native vibration though that is what OP asked, because when they do incarnate in 3D space/time, they can still become carmically involved and caught up as this planetary entities, or another example was to be kidnapped into negative time/space. So actually, regardless of theirs or any other Wanderer's native vibrations, we are still playing this game which has certain rules while incarnated here.
RE: Question about Ra wanderers - Adonai One - 02-05-2016
The rules play out naturally so there really isn't a need to get karmically attached to them or involved, even if such a temptation is offered.