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just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Plenum - 01-20-2016
Let's take a look at polarity, as a numbers game. So treat it like 'stats' in an RPG (role-playing game).
In RPG's, you have things like Strength, Intelligence, Wisdom, Constitution, etc. Classic Dungeons and Dragons attributes.
So let's do a hypothetical on what Ra offered us regards polarity. Namely, positive charge, and negative charge. As applied to the 7 energy centres.
Rule 1: root chakra isn't polarized. It's open/closed to relative degree to new experience. Both polarities have a vested interest in active and vital red-ray, but it's not polarized in this area as such.
Rule 2: negative polarity uses red/orange/yellow to open the gateway (indigo). ("The negative ray pattern is the red/orange/yellow moving directly to the blue [indigo?], this being only used in order to contact intelligent infinity.")
Rule 3: positive polarity uses an even mix (from red through to blue) to also open the same gateway. ("In positively oriented entities the configuration is even, crystallinely clear, and of the seven ray description.)
Rule 4: chakras 2-6 can be polarized (positive or negative, or deactivated, if not used, as for negative entities regards the heart and throat).
Rule 5: opening the gateway represents the goal of this game, as it means building enough 'charge' (polarity) to do the work in the next level of the game (4d). Opening the gateway is hitting the level cap of 3d, and let's you move onto the next phase.
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Crunching the Numbers:
Negative Polarity
red ray: open
orange ray: 95% negative polarization
yellow ray: 95% negative polarization
green ray: deactivated
blue ray: deactivated
indigo ray: gateway opened
total Polarized Charge (energy): 95 + 95 = 190 XP - LEVEL UP!!
Positive Polarity:
red ray: open
orange ray: 51% positive polarization
yellow ray: 51% positive polarization
green ray: 51% positive polarization
blue ray: 51% positive polarization
indigo ray: gateway opened
total Polarized Charge (energy): 51 + 51 + 51 + 51 = 204 XP - LEVEL UP!!
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it's fun playing numbers games, isn't it
Of course, when it comes to Harvest, it's not just about the numbers. It's about the spread.
Quote:34.16 Questioner: Would the red ray, an intense red ray, then be used as an index for seniority, the seniority system of incarnation, as well as the intense violet ray?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. In the graduation or harvesting to fourth-density positive, the red ray is seen only as that, which being activated, is the basis for all that occurs in vibratory levels, the sum of this being violet-ray energy.
This violet ray is the only consideration for fourth-density positive.
In assessing the harvestable fourth-density negative, the intensity of the red as well as the orange and the yellow rays is looked upon quite carefully as a great deal of stamina and energy of this type is necessary for the negative progression, it being extremely difficult to open the gateway to intelligent infinity from the solar plexus center. This is necessary for harvest in fourth-density negative.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Plenum - 01-20-2016
ps, this was just a thought experiment - if it wasn't clear from the title of the OP and the way it was presented (humorously, ironically, comparatively).
In no ways is it intended to be a serious take on how we live our 3d incarnations.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Parsons - 01-20-2016
In this scenario, I would call The Fool level 2.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Matt1 - 01-20-2016
i thought the negative path had the blue ray in use as well? I guess it could be seen as distorted because the blue ray means wisdom and truth, while at heart the negative path is lies and that which is not, but it is also a primary ray, so it would be used by those on the negative path, just in a distorted way. Perhaps then it could not be seen as closed like the heart but rather simply distorted yet active.
Its also an interesting thing to note that if the negative path doesn't have a green or a blue ray active, then how do they function in 4th and 5th density?
But yeah to get bach on topic, i think looking at this as an MMORPG is kinda cool. Its like we are here to gain exp through different skill sets to level up.
I would also add that i think the polarity should be seen as a total, rather than as 51% or 95% for each chakra.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Plenum - 01-20-2016
yeah Matt, it's been an area of interpretation that has come up over the years. But I believe this single Q&A nails it down to a tee. And also explains a bit more about what these 'percentages' correspond to.
A lot of highlighting here, as it's a passage of profound repercussions.
Quote:47.3 Questioner: We chose the values of— or you were given the values of better than 50% service to others for fourth-density positive and better than 95% service to self for fourth-density negative social memory complexes. Do these two values correspond to the same rate, shall I say, of vibration?
Ra: I am Ra. I perceive you have difficulty in expressing your query. We shall respond in an attempt to clarify your query.
The vibratory rates are not to be understood as the same in positive and negative orientations.
They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity.
Due to the fact that the primary color, shall we say, or energy blue is missing from the negatively oriented system of power, the green/blue vibratory energies are not seen in the vibratory schedules or patterns of negative fourth and fifth rates of vibration.
The positive, upon the other hand, shall we say, has the full spectrum of true-color time/space vibratory patterns and thus contains a variant vibratory pattern or schedule. Each is capable of doing fourth-density work. This is the criterion for harvest.
This passage really needs to be grokked.
The second bit in bold ("They are to be understood as having the power to accept and work with intelligent infinity to a certain degree or intensity. ") highlights the fact that polarity yields power. Not physical power, but spiritual power. That is, it is the conscious use of the spirit complex/shuttle to do work of a particular nature.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - BlatzAdict - 01-20-2016
man this is the game i've wanted to play my whole life... lol
i wish games were based on this rule set instead of hoard, acquire, hoard some more. conquer and kill.
i know that sounds so nerdy but i was immediately gravitated to the thread for the RPG aspect/nature. would be so fun!
sto path is the person who grinds more xp?
always wondered why bears have to carry gold and axes rofl just kidding.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Plenum - 01-20-2016
(01-20-2016, 03:25 PM)Matt1 Wrote: Its also an interesting thing to note that if the negative path doesn't have a green or a blue ray active, then how do they function in 4th and 5th density?
I think the only criterion to function/exist in a density is to have the red-ray active for the relevant physical vehicle.
As for the 'learning', I think the physical vehicle repreents the interface between the density energies ('the rays'), and the interpretive function ('the energy centres').
One can learn the ways of self-love (4d and 5d negative) without having the heart and throat centre open.
It also brings into question - just what exactly is blue ray - if the negatives can function without it.
In the past, blue ray has been associated with communication. It's also been paired with wisdom. 5d negatives are not without wisdom. (so blue ray can't equate totally with wisdom).
So I would say that blue-ray corresponds to deep-level structural comprehension of the nature of the Creator. Such understandings can only be founded in green-ray comprehensions about the commonality of all beings and entities. The negative entity denies and rejects green-ray, and isn't open to everything in the deep mind. It is highly selective. Think about how the Lovers Card differs in each path:
Ra Wrote:Many use the trunk and roots of mind as if that portion of mind were a badly used, prostituted entity. Then this entity gains from this great storehouse that which is rough, prostituted, and without great virtue.
Those who turn to the deep mind, seeing it in the guise of the maiden, go forth to court it. The courtship has nothing of plunder in its semblance and may be protracted, yet the treasure gained by such careful courtship is great.
The right-hand and left-hand transformations of the mind may be seen to differ by the attitude of the conscious mind towards its own resources as well as the resources of other-selves.
Without being able to see the common roots in consciousness of all beings (green ray activation), one will never be able to comprehend the cohesive structuring of existence. You are not opening yourself up to the data (the collective roots of mind).
So I would say that blue-ray, in it's most generalised sense, speaks to unified, ordered structuring provided by the Logos. A negative entity denies this, and asserts it's own undominated and uninfluenced beingness. It is the one which asserts it's complance on reality; not the other way around. It is open to all experiences (red ray), but it is applying a dominance filter on it's experiences, so that the common roots are all but obscured. Hence deactivation of green ray (commonality between all beings), and blue ray (collectively structured existence).
That's my take anyway
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - BenevolentStudent - 01-21-2016
(01-20-2016, 03:25 PM)Matt1 Wrote: i thought the negative path had the blue ray in use as well?
This was my original understanding/belief upon reading this thread yesterday... So does the neg path skip green AND blue? I'm not sure how to interpret the below quote. *help
Quote:39.12
The negative ray pattern is the red/orange/yellow moving directly to the blue [indigo?], this being only used in order to contact intelligent infinity.
RE: just throwing out a numbers game regards 95%/51% - Turtle - 01-21-2016
So much yes. OP ftw.