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A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 01-17-2016
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A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility
Note: This is a very deep and complex subject with much to question and to research, and my ideas are speculative at best -- but they provide a start for discussion.
1. One motivation for this topic is that in AstroPsychology there is a need for archetypal factors to describe ethical values and ethical polarity and their affect on a person's psyche and life. It may lead to a system similar to the MBS model of the Tarot Archetypes.
2. Another motivation is that the qualitative and quantitative nature of STO and STS needs more research and more fleshing out as a comprehensive ethical theory that integrates ethical polarity with psychology.
Since Service to Self/Other applies well intentions to gain polarity, it seems natural to consider that Disservice to Self/Other applies ill intentions to lose polarity. These complementary opposites can be abbreviated as DTS and DTO.
There are people who are STO/DTS and STS/DTO while there are people who are STO/STS and STS/STO.
STO/DTS care about others but have persecution complexes and self-loathe.
STS/DTO care about self but are sadistic and cruel towards others
STO/STS are more caring toward others but still care about self
STS/STO are more caring toward self but still care about others
3. The final motivation is indicated by the excerpt below where the Ra group say that between 51% STO and 95% STS is "the sinkhole of indifference" plus a surprising remark about "effort to attain" 51% STO vs 95% STS.
session 17
Quote:Don: Why is the negative path so much more difficult to attain harvestability upon than the
positive?
Ra: This is due to a distortion of the Law of One which indicates that the gateway to intelligent infinity be a gateway at the end of a straight and narrow path as you may call it.
To attain 51% dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a grade of 5% dedication to otherselves. [51% STO and 95% STS are the SAME in difficulty to attain] The, shall we say, sinkhole of indifference is between those two.
I want to first address the "sinkhole of indifference" that should motivate Metaphysical Psychologists who are interested in how the ethical focus, range and volatility of polarity affects the psychological stability and integrity of 3D/4D people and Wanderers.
There's a lot of psychological distortion, volatility and imbalance taking place among both groups that leads to some of the clinical conditions ie bipolar, borderline personality, manic depressive, schizoid, etc. So what role does ethical polarity play towards psychological health?
That's a big unknown which the Metaphysical Psychologist will try to address. And later in the post the Metaphysical Philosopher will try to address the "sinkhole of indifference" and "equal difficulty to attain" in terms of LOO and AOP.
So first, what is the psychological meaning of a person's ethical focus, range and volatility of polarity?
It's about the focus, range and volatility of a person's ethical intention and motivation which, in turn, affects one's willingness and capacity to express sincere care and concern for oneself and for others, and the opposite -- of sincere antipathy and coldheartedness for oneself and for others. So this has obvious STS/STO and DTS/DTO implications.
One approach to describing the ethical nature of a person is the probability/possibility vortex or cyclonic model.
For example, an "ethically stable and grounded" person is like a well formed and tight spinning vortex or cyclone with a small central core that indicates the "central" polarity of said person at say, for instance, 60% STS.
So therefore this person is 60/40 STS/STO who experiences relative inner stability and low volatility as she works on becoming more self-empowered and self-developed towards 95% STS.
What about DTO and DTS? To reach 95% STS she may begin to consciously assert DTO while consciously correcting and eliminating DTS. This inner and outer work process is done on a totality self level to address the many incarnations of karmic choices, lessons and programming.
Just for illustration, let's say for this incarnation she's an attractive and wealthy Yoga instructor who has Hollywood elites as clients. She's learning to use personal and esoteric power to manipulate others and is becoming open to consciously hurting others to gain more power. She has some self-doubts and vacillation but it's within her control.
So is she in a so-called "sinkhole of indifference" if she is motivated towards 95% STS?
Getting back to the vortex model and its features. The smaller the core the greater the focus. The tighter and smaller the diameter of the vortex the smaller the range. And the more well formed and symmetric the vortex the less volatility within this range.
Now, the vortex model is a nice visual and can be further developed into something multidimensional, but another common mathematical model is the probability distribution graph which makes the shape of a bumpy hill or mountain to indicate ethical focus, range and volatility.
This is an easier model to work with since we can use probability terms ie mean (average), median (middle), mode (most frequent) -- which determines focus -- and interval range and variance to determine range and volatility.
Using the above example, the Yoga instructor has her focus at 60% STS and a range of
[57 - 63] with low volatility or variability of polarity. So she is focused, balanced and stable and doesn't have wild swings of feelings related to variable ethical polarity -- no crisis of conscience or guilt trips. She's aware that she wants to polarize towards 95% STS.
Her graph looks like a steep, narrow and symmetrical mountain with the peak centered over 60% STS and a base or interval range of [57 - 63]. It's analogous to the tightly spinning and symmetrical vortex model.
As another example, for an unstable and vacillating Wanderer with guilt issues, his graph may look like an irregular, asymmetrical and broad hill with a loosely focused peak centered over 54% STO with an interval range of [40 - 60].
So he has wild swings into STS territory with over-corrections swinging back to STO.
Given this ethical volatility he is more prone to DTO and DTS activity and psychological issues ie bipolar and manic depression with homicidal and suicidal thoughts.
So using this Ethical Polarity evaluation to better understand AstroPsychology dynamics and archetypes leads to potential new discoveries in Depth Psychology or what can be called Metaphysical Psychology. This may prove to be useful in early 4D.
We can end this part with some questions.
How does one's ethical focus correlate to ethic intention and motivation, and, in turn, affect one's psychological states?
How does ethical range and volatility correlate with inner and outer tensions and conflicts, and, in turn, guilt and crisis of conscience?
The Ra group describe STO as strength of willingness and dedication to the welfare of Other over Self, and therefore describe STS as strength of willingness and dedication to the welfare of Self over Other. These determine ethical polarity.
So, if "welfare" is replaced with "deprivation and dysfunction" does DTO and DTS then have valid metaphysical and psychological meaning and application in 3D and 4D?
What about the "sinkhole of indifference" entailing indifference or neutrality of feeling?
So therefore apathy and Non-service to Self/Other or NTS/NTO may also have validity and application?
That's a lot of food for thought and may be worth further research for the 4D Metaphysical Psychologist.
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But going back to the Ra group excerpt and the Metaphysical Philosopher's research:
The Ra group say that between 51% STO and 95% STS is "the sinkhole of indifference" plus a surprising remark about "effort to attain" 51% STO vs 95% STS.
session 17
Quote:Don: Why is the negative path so much more difficult to attain harvestability upon than the positive?
Ra: This is due to a distortion of the Law of One which indicates that the gateway to intelligent infinity be a gateway at the end of a straight and narrow path as you may call it.
To attain 51% dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a grade of 5% dedication to otherselves. [51% STO = 95% STS in difficulty] The, shall we say, sinkhole of indifference is between those two.
So, the surprise is that it's NOT easier to attain 51% STO than to attain 95% STS. They have the same difficulty.
This then means that it is just as easy, or just as difficult, to be a Genghis Khan as to be a "caring and good" person.
So therefore, the effort and dedication it takes to consistently rape, slaughter and pillage is equivalent to the effort and dedication it takes to consistently give (just barely) a little more of one's self to helping others.
If this is the case, then Don's question of "why is the negative path so much more difficult to attain harvestablity than the positive?" should have the answer that "It actually is NOT more difficult to attain 95% STS than 51% STO" -- given what the Ra group just said.
Re-read the above excerpt carefully and, given the context, try to justify why that answer is not a valid answer.
So reading this excerpt caught me off guard b/c I always thought that it was easier to attain 51% STO given the 10:1 ratio of STO to STS in terms of mixed harvest populations and of SMC's. This was supported by the LOO claiming a slight bias to STO due to the natural harmony of unity.
But if the LOO is slightly biased towards STO then shouldn't it be easier to attain 51% STO than 95% STS? It appears not to be, and that the reason for the 10:1 ratio has to do with the slight bias causing much larger numbers of 3D seekers to be attracted to the love and harmony of STO than to the riskier type of love and harmony of STS.
So that attraction doesn't mean that it is any easier to attain which is puzzling b/c I would think being drawn or attracted towards something would make it easier. So the equal difficulty to attain STO or STS is still puzzling.
The AOP approach is this:
In terms of the Tao principle and symbol, positive and negative are equivalent polarities of Yang and Yin. It's a beautifully balanced duality, but symbolically it's a duality within a circle that is an inclusive whole. This is the variation of "two within one" as a Dialectical Monism where, in a symmetrically complete form is AOP = AO + OA = OA + AO = OAP and where AO or All is One is Yin, and OA or One is All is Yang.
Given the equal and dynamic balance of complementary opposites, this translates to "equal difficulty to attain" whereas the slight bias to STO or OA relates to the inclusive wholeness of the circle b/c the Yang nature of OA or "infinified unity" strives to "posit or affirm" AO or "unified infinity" as shown in the 2nd part (OA + AO = OAP) of the above formula. This is the "return to source" process or so-called Original Thought.
"Infinified unity" is intelligent unity which emerges from the Cardinal Octave to form our Fixed Octave, while "unified infinity" is intelligent infinity which emerges within our Fixed Octave to form the next Mutable Octave and for which we are drawn to access and evolve toward.
See What is Ra's Monism?
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10926
Ra's Fundamental Postulates
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=10871
To sum things up, AOP = AO + OA corresponds to the Original Impulse of the Creator to Know Self through experiencing form and function in the Fixed Octave, while OA + AO = OAP corresponds to the Original Thought of the Creator to Return to Self via the experience in the Fixed Octave to reach the Mutable Octave. This return to source has STO or OA intention and so is biased to create the 10:1 ratio.
This is far from a complete and accurate account but attempts to make some sense of the ethical polarity dynamics. It opens up the topic for more discussion.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 02-07-2016
Here's a graphic of a model based on Roots of Unity theory, metamathematics and metaphysics. The square root of 3, or more accurately, 2nd root of 3, represents "bipolar 3-ness" generated initially by the 3rd root of Unity which constructs the large triangle with a vertex at the right origin.
Note: ccs/cco is care concern for self/other derived from 1D and 2D and precedes sts/sto in 3D.
The 3-ness is metaphysical in the form of 3-fold MTL complex and MBS complex emergence in 3rd Density, and with 3rd Dimensional (actually bipolar 3d as space/time and time/space) means of expression.
The chakra lines of force and centers are clearly seen as natural triadic constructions of internal balance and symmetry that have dynamism. It is the minimal MTL 2d template which can be expanded to 3d and beyond. So it is fundamental, yet lacks detail to be R&D'd.
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In all fairness ETM's and Plenum's thoughts here are somewhat dated to May of 2015 so presently they may have done further contemplation and have revised them. So a caveat is in order here.
Austin asks
Quote:Is it really "as difficult"? It seems to me that the dedication required for service to self harvestability is more difficult, and Ra indicates elsewhere in the material that our sub-Logos is skewed towards the positive. How is it just as difficult? Why does Ra say this?
ETM says
Quote:It is as difficult. The reason between the large difference is that in awareness you are self and not other-selves and as such there is more probability for self to generate effort for the self. You truly feel hunger through your hunger, etc.. [In 3D awareness] To be 51% STO means that you will [constantly] balance to put others [ever so slightly] above you, and that is hard as you are self and not other-selves in your awareness of things.
This makes sense when considering the self-focus of both 1D and 2D beingness which is the foundation for 3D. 1D beingness involves survival, sustainability and evolution towards 2D of a new formed planet. 2D beingness involves survival, sustainablity and evolution towards self-aware 3D of many 2D species.
There is both a qualitative and quantitative emphasis of self-focus, self-concern and self-awareness as shown by the ROY triad of chakras in which Red is personal 86.6% ccs, Orange is interpersonal 57.7% ccs with an evolutionary jump to Yellow as transpersonal 28.8% ccs and 71.2% cco which is initially a raw and relatively shallow expression of cco to barely enable the graduation to 3D self-awareness as an ethical being.
The multi-variable qualitative aspects temper the quantitative % aspects in complex ways which results in a complex psychology of affective and cognitive expressions in 2D and 3D species.
Examples of raw Yellow expression is the instinctive altruistic behavior of bees and ants that die to protect their colony, the salmon that swim upstream to spawn and die for their species, the herd of antelope that circle young members to protect them from the predator lions to save and perpetuate their species.
The colony, herd, tribe etc are raw cco extensions of self which we see in our 3D of street gangs, religious sects, national, ethnic and racial groups, etc. There is self-awareness and Yellow 71.2% cco in an emerging transpersonal or group based level.
Overall the ROY triad is 173.1 ccs and 126.9 cco -- a large quantitative difference for an emerging 3D entity and which supports ETM's point about relative ease of self-focus.
Plenum says
Quote:in terms of energetics, a positive entity is weighed on their violet ray spectrum (overall balance), with a specific interest in the primary energy centres (chakras 1, 3, and 5).
a negative entity is examined for their orange and yellow ray energy centres, which correspond to being able to enforce control, respectively, over the self (orange ray) and other-selves (yellow ray).
The only issue is -- what about the unpolarized entites which are the majority. They are in the sinkhole of indifference as neither positive or negative? Which process is used -- the violet spectrum or ROY analysis? It probably depends on whether an entity is leaning positive or negative and for negative it needs to be towards 70% STS -- I would presume.
The measuring process doesn't actually address the "difficulty" question but may be useful to describe the dynamics of the above model.
Plenum says
Quote:what does 51% correlate to? I would say that in terms of energy, one is radiating more than one is absorbing
This complies with AOP = AO + OA or the Dialectical Monism of the Tao.
The more interesting is the converse where 95% STS is absorbing at an overwhelming and extreme degree to the extent of "sucking the life force" out of those around oneself. One would be similar to an energy vacuum suction device whose effect others would immediately sense in the form of feeling drained or disoriented in one's presence.
These are fun people to be around! From a distance perhaps? Or if you are in 6D merger mode and require some melding with the most evolved -6D beings then have at it!
Examples are the cult leader, black magician or guru who reduce his/her followers to mind-controlled minions who give their power away via worship and fear. But these esoteric and occult types are negative Wanderer beings who have already graduated to 4D and above.
What about the less sophisticated 3D being who is experiencing this 95% absorption for the first time and needs to maintain it to graduate to 4D? These types would have to be less esoteric and more exoteric. The celebrities and their puppet masters ie directors and producers. Or the politicians and their puppet masters ie investment bankers and corporate CEOs. The drug kingpins, the human traffic kingpins, the religious warlords -- all who need to reach and maintain the level of domination of a Genghis Khan.
According Scott Mandelker, some of these are of the so-called Illuminati who ally with 4D Orion types.
So they do dabble in occult and probably sexual and psychological dominance practices, but are raw and unpolished to some extent and many do not make the 95% cut due to lack of discipline and self-balance. They aren't pure STS/STO but degenerate to some degree of unfocused DTS/DTO or NTS/NTO intention and behavior in the sinkhole of ethical volatility.
There's much more to discuss and question regarding this model so please inquire.
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The next graphic is a simplified model which leaves out 1D, 2D, 6D, 7D and 8D because it would be a complex web of lines to decipher the implications of the whole Octave in such a minimal space. The (3/3), (4/4), (5/5) points all start at right origin but were not labeled on graph so as to minimize potential confusion.
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If I were to put in 1D and 2D lines, 1D would relate to emergence of the absolute value of unity and the seed for the circular and cyclic nature of existence -- thus generating the unit circle.
2D would relate to emergence of the relative bipolar values (-1 and +1) to provide the bi-circle nature with the intersecting vessica pisces that is the seed template of the chakra system and perhaps other complex systems.
Besides the 50% and 95% intersections there are many other lines of intersection that may have secondary effects in the analysis of ethical dynamics that reflect evolutionary sub-stages. The natural balance of the polarity scale reflects the balance of AO + OA or the Tao's Yin and Yang respectively.
Btw, I think the Ra group appropriately used 51% and 95% as natural simplified threshold values by rounding up from say 50.3% or rounding down from 95.1%. This means that 50.3% can graduate.
The Polarity Scale has more complexity which involves using a unit shift to observe the ideal value of STO/STS. As you shift up from +.50 you also shift up from -.50 to get for example +.55/-.45. They shift as a unit which reflects the idealistic state of STO/STS.
But this idealistic state is simplistic and not real life ethical dynamics b/c DTS/DTO and NTS/NTO need to be factored in. To clearly illustrate, and not to be harsh, do you think Carla and Don were pure STO/STS in their ethical dynamics? Do you think self-deprecation or commiting suicide is STO or STS? More like DTS in both their cases which can destabilize their STO focus and leave them open to STS influence.
We all have these issues to some degree ie the example of the unstable and volatile Wanderer in the OP of this thread.
So an example of the ethical dynamics of someone would be the following -- 60% STO, 25% STS, 10% DTS, 3% DTO, 1% NTS, 1% NTO -- plus ethical range and volatility which causes these statistical values to be somewhat fluid. These statistical values thus provide a multi-dimensional model that better reflects real life and real world situations.
That's partly the description of the Polarity Scale complexity where the "service" of STS or STO, has the effect of gaining polarity in a direct manner, whereas the "disservice" of DTS or DTO has the effect of losing polarity in an indirect manner. The gain/lose dynamic is bipolar and complies with AO + OA or Tao dynamics.
The AO + OA or Tao dynamics is also shown in the Polarity Scale and in the graphical "density interaction" in the following way.
On the graph both (1/5) and (4/5) indicate the bipolar nature of +95 and -95 whereby (1/5) may address the OA/Yang intention of 1st density and the (4/5) may address the AO/Yin intention of 4th density -- both from a 5th density frame of reference and perspective.
The (4/5) also relates to how negative 4D graduation involves the strong ROY plus a strong Blue chakra which strives for 5D and with an absolute minimal Green. The ideal for a negative striving person is ROYB which sums to 245.3 ccs and 147.7 cco and which provides potential for - 95% polarization if the will and focus is strong. Of course this is theory and open to question.
Also, not labeled on the graphic due to space constraints is the 3D Yellow Triangle which has (1/3) as 1st density intention at +86.6 while (2/3) is 2nd density intention at -86.6 which expresses the OA + AO or Yang/Yin respectively and is the template for the ethical levels of the chakra system as shown in the first graphic of this post.
To reiterate, (1/3) is the OA/Yang of outward emergence in 1D while (2/3) is the AO/Yin of inward convergence in 2D to then go back to (3/3) or 3rd density intention to a neutral, yet dynamic, 0 state that provides self-awareness and completes the 3D intention cycle.
This is all up for question and much R&D so hopefully there's some feedback besides from the crickets as Gary so artfully mentioned. Kudos to Gary for that "cunning retort" that actually cuts both ways -- referring to forum readers as crickets or these posts only worthy of cricket responses?
In both cases "how dare you!" as former CNN host Piers Morgan famously says to guests that disagree with him. Just kidding -- and cunning retorts are welcome esp if they address the topic here.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 02-13-2016
I've drawn up another Roots of Unity graphic that focuses on the MTL 2d template of both 1st and 2nd Density which are affected by the weak activation of 3rd Density. Like the other 2 graphics, it only addresses the fundamental 2d level. So there needs to be more R&D of this level and higher dimensional levels to be fully complete.
MTL means Mythos-Topos-Logos and 2d means 2 Dimensional.
Below the graphic 1D, 2D and 3D mean 1st, 2nd and 3rd Density.
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When 2D begins on a planet there is also an immediate activation of 3D and seeking by 2D entities towards 3D. It is initially a very weak activation and level of seeking but it does begin to take form as shown by the 3D Yellow Triangle in dotted lines.
In the graphic various "lines of being" cross and intersect to express the MTL 2d template of the Experiencer/Creator dynamic. The Orange 2D line crosses through the midpoint of the Yellow dotted 3D line and reaches the -1 point of the unit circle. This act of beingness is simulated and reproduced by Yellow dotted lines crossing from vertex through midpoint to a point on the circle.
Experiencing and creating takes place, and nexus points of intersection determine polarity potentials for experience and creative action.
Given the activation of 3D, the graphic is about the potentials of evolution in 1D and 2D in terms of rudimentary ethical polarity and the formation of this polarity in the chakra systems of 2D entities. Notice some similarities to the 1st graphic of the chakra system in the previous post.
So the graphic begins to address the following questions.
Are there early rudimentary forms of ethical behavior in 2D? If so how do these forms allow for ethical polarity to emerge from 2D and into 3D?
For example, does the predator/prey behavior in 2D also exist in 3D as abuser/victim behavior?
How about the pecking order structure and pack behavior of wolves that translates to human packs and dominate/submissive behavior?
In ethical polarity terms are these questions.
How does STS/STO emerge from CCS/CCO?
How does DTS/DTO emerge from DCS/DCO?
How does NTS/NTO emerge from NCS/NCO?
CCS/CCO is care concern for self/other.
DCS/DCO is discare disconcern for self/other.
NCS/NCO is noncare nonconcern for self/other.
I would actually begin 1D and early 2D with Polarity terms of inner/outer focus or IF/OF and of inner/outer care concern or ICC/OCC because the self/other dynamic has not yet emerged to any significant level. People with Pet Rocks or their favorite crystal may think differently but that may be because of their 3D investment and infusion to enable rudimentary selfhood.
Even though there is very little selfhood at 1D and early 2D of a planet there are the dynamics of focus/disfocus and care/discare and concern/disconcern in the form of constructive/destructive and order/disorder. These dynamics of a 1D and early 2D planet prepare the way for the later evolved ethical dynamics.
Very briefly, in 2D we see biological interactions and relationships that show ethical polarity and can be listed as the following.
Symbiosis or Mutualism -- a two-way STO/STS where they benefit themselves and each other in a type of cooperation.
Antagonism or Parasitism -- a one-way STS/DTO where one gains while the other loses.
Mutual Antagonism or Competition -- a two-way STS/DTO of aggressive dominant behavior.
Commensalism -- a one-way STS/NTO ie remora/shark in which one benefits and the other is neither benefited nor harmed
Altruism -- a one-way STO/DTS of the bee or wildebeest that sacrifices itself to protect the colony or herd's young from the invader/predator
The polarity values from the graphic may be reflecting the quantitative thresholds that determine these various types of interaction occurring both between species and within species ie +.866 as Altruism and -.866 as Parasitism.
And of course there is also the mating and child nurturing behaviors that reflect chakra level polarity of the ROY triad where survival and perpetuation of the species involves some self/other dynamics.
So to conclude, there is MTL complexity occurring on a 1D and early 2D planet that provides for a future 3D with its rudiments of ethical polarity. Some aspects of this is touched on in the thread of Uranus and Neptune.
Life emerging on Uranus and Neptune
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=11530
Ethical Polarity is still based on Yang/Yin or AO + OA or IU + UI of the Dialectical Monism that emerges from the non-dual Existence Monism.
The next post may jump back to the OP and dive into the ethical and psychological disorders that take place and which seems to wreak havoc with some Wanderers. I'll try to involve some 3D and 4D AstroPsychology to address that topic.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - Plenum - 02-13-2016
(02-13-2016, 01:52 PM)4Dsunrise Wrote: The next post may jump back to the OP and dive into the ethical and psychological disorders that take place and which seems to wreak havoc with some Wanderers.
looking forward to reading this next piece!
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 02-15-2016
Plenum,
Regarding this:
The next post may jump back to the OP and dive into the ethical and psychological disorders that take place and which seems to wreak havoc with some Wanderers.
Feel free to list what you think are ethical and psychological disorders most common to Wanderers.
This would help me to kick start ideas relating to the OP. You've been a Healer so I welcome your feedback.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - Plenum - 02-15-2016
I would probably use this quote as a springboard for such analysis:
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, Wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe.
The most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them.
so to me, the heart of this, is that the higher vibrational planes (social memory complexes in 4d, 5d, and 6d) not only have positive service built in, as each member there has qualified to be there by some measure of positive radiance, but that in acting on one's positive service, that service is also received positively. That is, the notion of deliberate rejection and hurtful intent is just not present. Well, it might still be in 4d, but 5d positive has 98% STO as one guideline, and 6d is even more harmonious. And since 6d provides the bulk of Wanderers, we can say that the denseness of harmonious intent and interaction is an axiom or a given of such an individual's mindset.
Contrast that, and coming to Earth with it's all-over-the-compass polarity pool. Any junior school (primary school) or middle/high school will have a range of individuals. You might find an exception at a Steiner School, but for the most part, given the range of personalities and polarities, the Wanderer is going to be exposed to a certain amount of rejection and brutalization; even if it's not direct (more often than not, it is direct), but imprinting also happens indirectly, by seeing it occur to others.
So to me, this is the root cause of 'alienation' problems. The vast majority of a 6d Wanderers' biases are built on the assumption of co-operation, good-will, harmonious intent, and group endeavour. Back-stabbing, scheming, plotting, and undermining are not part of the core vocabulary. And so such an individual is ill-equipped, psychologically, to deal with such things. So the alienation usually happens this way:
1) you reject me
2) I choose to reject you in return
in truth, all children have to deal with rejection. It's just that to Wanderers, the initial rejection from others is so shocking and contrary to their primary worldview, that it literally is shattering to their expectations. So the programming of 'I don't wanna be here' can set in at an extremely early age. And be triggered by quite innocuous situations.
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so to your question about psychological states/disorders:
* social anxiety (fear of interaction, fear of being rejected by unloving acts)
* superiority complex (defensive mechanism against less developed entities)
* overactivity/martyrdom complex (the need to defuse suffering)
* schizophrenia (seems overrepresented amongst spiritual seekers - would be interested in hearing your thoughts as to why this might be the case)
* depression (feeling of ineffectiveness on a mixed polarity planet, can't see opportunities to serve)
* masochism (punishing of 'selfish' thoughts, usually engendered by religious settings of 'do not' statements)
anyway, those are just a few
also - possibly autism/aspergers as an example of extreme rejection. Basically the almost complete shutting down of red and yellow ray in such a baby/child. With such 'isolation' the mind is not distracted or interfered by the 'noise' of others, and so incredible analytical feats can be executed in the space of mental silence. It also accounts for their eidetic memory, if they don't have their visual/auditory imprinting being con-mixed by social situations, and the accompanying uncertainties.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - AnthroHeart - 02-16-2016
Plenum, you nailed it. I feel like a 6D wanderer and the alienation is very strong with this one.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 02-21-2016
This will be typed up as a single post because it deserves it's own space to focus on and to hopefully get feedback.
Before addressing the deep and extensive topic about ethical and psychological disorders I want to go back to the OP to reevaluate the "sinkhole of indifference".
Are people here familar with a sinkhole? Check Google images or Wikipedia to see these collapsed deep depressions that make vertical drops like a cliff. When you step off into a sinkhole you plunge vertically to the bottom. Everyone plunges to the bottom and are at the same bottom level.
The word "sink" is used because it's like a kitchen sink which also abruptly drops vertically at the edge to a fairly deep level bottom. All cups and dishes are at the same bottom level in the kitchen sink.
So to paraphrase -- "the sinkhole of indifference is between [51% STO and 95% STS]"
This means that everyone between those threshold values step off and plunge to the bottom of the sinkhole of indifference. They are supposedly at the same level of indifference since they are all at the bottom. It doesn't matter if you are 49% STO or 92% STS, you are both at the same level of indifference.
So does this make sense?
I think the Ra group were applying the literary device of hyperbole when they said "sinkhole of indifference". It sounds impressive and has artistic flare, but to me it is not very accurate.
How about being stuck in the "mudhole of ethical inertia" or flailing in a kind of quicksand in the "slippery sloping hole of ethical chaos"? Here inertia means a state of stagnation or sluggishness and chaos means a state of confusion and disorder.
Indifference exists but there are varying levels of indifference, inertia and chaos (slippage) within this hole. It also exists in people as NTS/NTO or NCS/NCO -- neutral, apathetic or uncaring and amoral to some degree. They are drawn to moral relativism and instant gratification which supports the above Chakra System graphic and the ROY triad of 173.1 ccs and 126.9 cco -- a greater quantitative self-focus.
But still there are people at 90% STS striving for 95% or at 45% STO striving for 51%, so
climbing out of the hole is doable. I even used the example in the OP of the 60% STS Yoga Teacher from Hollywood who feels the need to strive for 95% STS via more DTO which will indirectly allow her to gain more STS focus and polarity.
And one last point to refute the Ra group's hyperbole, if you met a 90% STS person and a 45% STO person are you saying that you couldn't tell the difference in their ethical polarity, since, after all, they're in the sinkhole of indifference? Unless you are totally dim you should be able to tell the difference -- and thus prove varying degrees of difference and indifference.
So this analysis of "sinkhole of indifference" was beneficial because from it we can add to the apparent quantitative factors of ethical focus, range and volatility the new and apparent qualitative factors of ethical inertia and ethical slippage -- both of which relate and modify ethical focus, range and volatility in some manner. There's always more to research here.
We can also conclude from all this that ethics and ethical polarity isn't a simplistic cut and dry STS/STO dynamic. There's more complexity and nuance to 3D ethics and beyond.
Just look back at the 2D kinds of ethical relationships in the above post to get a sense for this complexity.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 02-21-2016
Here's a hypothetical which is a longshot. Consider a Counseling Service of trained Psychologists and Psychotherapists as a branch of New Era Development. Let's call it the Wanderer Solutions Service.
And now to the question of what ethical and psychological disorders are most common to Wanderers.
First Plenum's relevant Ra quote:
Quote:Due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, Wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe.
Notice that they say "the more dense densities" corresponding to "more exteme variance" in the 3D environment. This makes sense in that the higher up from 3D the greater the variance. So there's increasing variance as you go from 4D to 5D to 6D.
A 4D Wanderer would feel the least variance while the 6D Wanderer would feel the most variance. This raises the question as to why the number of 4D Wanderers is not the greatest, followed by a smaller number of 5D Wanderers and then by the even smaller number of 6D Wanderers?
The 4D Wanderers would have the least difficulty in 3D and therefore can be more focused and effective towards helping 3D to evolve.
Also, basic experience would tell you that high school kids (3D) can be mentored best by undergrad college students (4D) than by graduate college students (5D) or by college professors (6D) who are usually unrelatable and out of touch. The possible exception is if 5D and 6D Wanderers are gaining experience by living several life cycles on 3D Earth.
So, given this difficulty, there must be other motives for 5D and 6D Wanderers to be here and a top motive is for their own personal evolution, which can involve a complex collection of personal goals and lessons. Its analogous to attempting to take ten courses in one semester or to take two or three extremely hard courses in a semester.
I can relate to this and I get the feeling that many Wanderers had some "irrational exuberance" and got carried away in terms of motives and goals. And then there are some Wanderers who had unclear motives and made poor decisions based on these motives.
Hey, we hotshot grad students and college professors think we can handle high school again. Been there done that, right? It'll all come back to us, right? An inner city high school? So what, how hard can it be? Oh oh...this ain't so great. I think I may have made a wrong choice here. Egads! What to do now? Calling Higher Self! Calling Higher Self!
So to summarize, over-exuberant or unclear goals and motives and poor and hasty decisions end up backfiring and wreaking havoc at the karmic and psychological level for an incarnate Wanderer. The pre-incarnational programming had some glitches and bugs in it, which is part of the risk.
Also to summarize, many Wanderers are just not ready to be here and when they get here they're not willing or able to adapt to unexpected contingencies. At perhaps some level of awareness some may believe that they made a mistake to incarnate and regret their decision. This is especially in regards to the less experienced Wanderers and the ones with extreme variance and difficult 3D assimilation.
So that sets the stage for what Plenum lists as the following common psychological disorders:
Quote:* social anxiety (fear of interaction, fear of being rejected by unloving acts)
* superiority complex (defensive mechanism against less developed entities)
* overactivity/martyrdom complex (the need to defuse suffering)
* schizophrenia (seems overrepresented amongst spiritual seekers - would be interested in hearing your thoughts as to why this might be the case)
* depression (feeling of ineffectiveness on a mixed polarity planet, can't see opportunities to serve)
* masochism (punishing of 'selfish' thoughts, usually engendered by religious settings of 'do not' statements)
For 3D clinical purposes only, I'll use some clinical terms that Glenn Perry applies in his AstoPsychology and which he broadens and relates to planet/house/sign archetypes. I'll mention some of these but will focus more on applying the ethical dyamics from the OP. I also add Plenum's remarks in bold just below each numbered item.
1. Social Anxiety -- not fitting in or socially adapting because you would have to become a fake facade of yourself -- an unnatural, neurotic, insecure self -- being someone you're not.
Fear of interaction, fear of being rejected by unloving acts -- there is a conflict between outward CCO risk and inward CCS protection to where it causes a fear-based NCO or DCO and thus no STO. Because of this, for a positive Wanderer there is self-guilt on top of fear which triggers DCS and DTS ie unhealthy OCD or addictions.
Avoidant Personality -- hypersensitivity to potential rejection, so this person is unwilling to enter into relationships that don't confirm unconditional acceptance
Schizoid Personality -- the "social misfit" who has a defect in her capacity to form personal relationships
2. Superiority Complex -- a somewhat conflictive and self-absorbed bullying nature or ego-mania based on frustration of unexpressed sincere goals and motives of CCO and STO.
Defensive mechanism against less developed entities -- can be socially justified CCS and STS that begins to enjoy DCO and DTO or in less severe cases, just apathetic NCO or NTO while maintaining CCS and STS.
Antisocial Personality -- to become impulsive and impatient to the extent of being hostile and aggressive with criminal intent and which can result in Sociopathic Personality -- STO frustration causes DTO anger and a volatile swing towards an STS focus of self-power.
Narcissistic Personality -- caused by unconscious fear of having no value, importance, or worth, so need to project grandiose sense of self via entitlement, exploiting others, lack of empathy -- feeling both DCS and fear of DCS motivates a shallow STS defense that gains STS polarity by deepening STS while applying DTO.
Manic Personality -- personal excess and grandiose delusions which Wanderers misperceive as their "true calling" -- ungrounded and outward projection as God's messenger or some well known figure, so extreme outward and distorted STO with lack of healthy CCS and STS to stay grounded. The eventual highs and lows and mood swings leads to Bipolar Personality and the "crashing to the ground" -- a dangerous unhealthy form of grounding -- to the polar opposite of extreme inward and distorted STS with lack of healthy CCO and STO to feel socially connected.
3. Overactivity/Martyrdom Complex -- low self value to extent of being everyone's doormat which shows extreme DCS and DTS which feels like STO, so which comforts guilt and suffering. There's so little IF or inner focus except for a muted self that desires only that "I am you" without the necessary balance of "You are me" -- OA + AO
The need to defuse suffering -- there may some karmic redemption taking place so this Martyr Phase may be necessary to work through the Victimizer/Victim dynamic and extreme DCS guilt -- again extreme DCS and DTS feels like a comforting STO
Borderline Personality -- personal insecurity and fear of being alone -- wanting to merge with other people but done out of loneliness or need for personal security -- may resort to suicidal or homicidal threats in attempt to avoid abandonment -- lack of healthy CCS and STS leads to DTO
Histrionic Personality -- lack of warmth and caring in childhood leads to being overly dependent and demanding of reassurance by another -- over-reacts to gain attention and shows irrational outbursts and clinging behavior -- shows superficial warmth and caring or NCO and NTO which can polarize either way, towards STS or STO.
Dependent Personality -- example is an abused wife who stays with spouse -- denies self of needs to provide needs for other so as to avoid self-reliance -- the need to "save the relationship" -- so very little IF and CCS except in a projective sense -- "I am you" again.
4. Schizophrenia -- disintegrated self with no personal boundaries to integrate and appreciate the inner/outer duality of beingness -- it may be an explorable state ie John Lilly's flotation tank excursions or a Shamanic Journey or LSD/entheogen trip.
Seems overrepresented amongst spiritual seekers -- the outward projective OA of "I am everything" to transcend duality to "fuse with all" probably occurs more for 6D Wanderers than 4D or 5D, although late 5D may feel the yearning of an unbalanced STO Oneness. Too much ethical volatility and not enough grounded CCS and STS may trigger a disintegration of "incarnate self" to hopefully experience "discarnate self" that risks all kinds of inner/outer plane trappings.
Schizophrenic Personality -- yearning for transcendence of duality combined with a need to escape reality, in the case of Wanderers one's karmic goals or responsibilities -- the lack of ego boundaries is attractive to one who wants to explore the boundless but then lots of ethical confusion and slippage occurs to raise fear of STS and DTO attacks.
Bipolar Personality -- already mentioned -- again extreme ethical volatility causes personal conflict and disintegration which yields Paranoid Schizophrenia
ADHD Personality -- can maybe induce neutral schizophrenic states in Wanderers but always the risk of ethical unfocus and imbalance to set off fear and anger type hallucinations
5. Depression -- crippling clinical depression that paralyzes personal motivation and has many inner and outer causes ie childhood abuse, PTSD, etc.
Feeling of ineffectiveness on a mixed polarity planet, can't see opportunities to serve -- this is one causative factor of generalized, yet acute and chronic depression for STO Wanderers who feel actualized and good about themselves when they can be expressing creative and effective STO work.
Depressive Personality -- when the desire for perfection and high achievement encounters failure and frustration this leads to a sense of inadequacy, worthlessness and despair -- internalized self-deprecation and loss of interest or pleasures in activities -- no high outer STO achievement results in the complementary low inner DTS paralysis -- internalized DCS and some loss of STO polarity due to resentment and unfocused anger that creates a negative aura.
Paranoid Personality -- just wrote this above but as more extreme internalized and repressed depression, resentment and anger that triggers both DCS/DCO and DTS/DTO to cause more loss of STO polarity to possibly lead to a jealous and power-seeking STS who finds an outlet for depressive frustration.
6. Masochism -- self punishing and self loathing to relieve guilt -- possible karmic redemption for Victimizer/Victim dynamic and other destructive STS deeds
Punishing of 'selfish' thoughts, usually engendered by religious settings of 'do not' statements -- Hey, thou shalt not criticize the Ten Commandments! Now you're going to get it, damn you! -- an anger-based Crucifixion Complex seems like a form of Masochism -- anger towards self is DCS and DTS with no intention to gain a STO feeling of comfort as with the Martyr Complex.
Compulsive Personality -- to not feel useful or constructive or productive makes one seek perfection and to project self-criticism as being critical of others -- must do every little thing perfectly and done repetitively until done perfectly -- excessive modesty and self-restraint to where there's no expression of warm emotions -- this self criticism is a milder form of Masochism
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Well that's a rough outline of some ideas which are not set in stone. There's always much more to cover.
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - Plenum - 02-21-2016
incredible writeup! Thank you
RE: A Person's Ethical Focus, Range and Volatility - 4Dsunrise - 01-03-2017
The graphic in post #2 of a Chakra System as a template based on the merging of two units was motivated by a Quo session from May 13, 1990.
http://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1990/1990_0513.aspx
An excerpt that describes is this.
Quote:The Creator wished and wishes and will always wish in that infinitely small portion of its infinite self that is active, to manifest love, to love and feel the self of love in action.
And so it created its children, children of love and free will, one unit of absolute love that can never change and will never be unique, and an absolutely equal portion of infinitely various free will. That is your nature. Your uniqueness lies not in that you are children of love, but in that no two unions of love and free will are the same.
Here's a rough 3-stage model of this process which was made 5 years ago which led to going into more detail of the Chakra System. It uses Set Diagrams or Venn Diagrams which are initially free of spatial or temporal form but which then can take a more geometric physical form as 2-dimensional templates. This is just to show where the post #2 graphic came from.
The lines that intersect to form the Energy Centers or Chakras are the 3 major Nadis or channels or streams of Prana energy. The 2 that zig and zag are Ida (Yin) and Pingala (Yang), and the central vertical line is Sushumna which has within it a Yang-Yin nature with a Vajra (Yang) channel and a Chitrini (Yin) channel -- plus a third very fine channel called Brahma which may be of a neutral status to coordinate the Yang-Yin flows of Prana. There are always various interpretations which the Dec 18 2005 Quo session may help to clarify this system in terms of the 12 Chakra System.
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