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Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - tamaryn - 09-25-2015
I am feeling more and more some of use have come under this veil to primarily for the purpose of shedding karma as fast as possible.
It is tragic and lonely journey to shed the velvet shroud. Even more destructive or radiant to shed the shroud too quickly.
It is even more sickening to spin the wheel.
But what I what to ask everyone is........ How are you really feeling b4th? I mean, what have your collective lives been like for the past two weeks?
I imagine us a lively and energetic S/M/C in time-space. Because of duality, we are changing faster than our brothers and sisters on the other side. We are just getting our feet on the ground, so to speak, in both time-space and space-time. But our evolution is helping us greatly, even though the catalyst is harsh and we are shedding our old selves every day.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - AnthroHeart - 09-25-2015
I haven't felt suicidal this past week, so I think I'm doing well.
Karma work is accelerating.
Time is compressing.
I mean I'm 38 now. It seems just yesterday I was 34.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - The_Tired_Philosopher - 09-25-2015
Past two weeks felt good. Found myself another answer.
Realized I'm awesome, and that I love and hate myself.
Still questioning how B4 is a smc and not a bunch of different smc's cooperating.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Shyrah - 09-25-2015
Holier than thou B4thers. This is far from bring a SMC, probably an antisocial one
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - The_Tired_Philosopher - 09-25-2015
Thank you, that is literally my feelings regards this communing as a 'social memory complex', but you say that and anger ensues.
We're just a community. You could say we're a community complex, but not a social memory complex. Not metaphysically, maybe in thought in some way. But just severely seriously. Not a smc. We do not perform in ways to be such, Nevermind the ramifications of being one.
Unless you regard us a Negative oriented Smc who consistently loses energy from entrophy from lack of care of another.
-Braces self to be told I'm wrong-
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Minyatur - 09-25-2015
(09-25-2015, 06:41 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: Thank you, that is literally my feelings regards this communing as a 'social memory complex', but you say that and anger ensues.
We're just a community. You could say we're a community complex, but not a social memory complex. Not metaphysically, maybe in thought in some way. But just severely seriously. Not a Social Memory Complex. We do not perform in ways to be such, Nevermind the ramifications of being one.
Unless you regard us a Negative oriented Social Memory Complex who consistently loses energy from entrophy from lack of care of another.
-Braces self to be told I'm wrong-
As per Ra description of a social memory complex, you are right. I personally find that definition limiting but Ra would call us a mind/body/spirit social complex which is pretty much the same except that there is not one single orientation for the group nor is there a telepathic connection that allows everyone to dig into the understandings/distortions of others.
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Back to OP : I am ever well
About changing faster than those on the other side, it seems very personal. From my understanding, those of positive orientation that do come here, mostly are here as a way to liberate themselves from distortions which keep their social/memory/complex from evolving further toward Oneness.
Those that were of negative orientation come here on a much more personal level for themselves. If not to drag this world into darkness, then to bring change in themselves.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Stranger - 09-25-2015
After a very spiritually wobbly couple of months, I've found my feet again. The work ever continues, and it's vital not to get stuck on guilt and regret. Every moment is a new opportunity, and we are ever bathed in love, even when we don't like ourselves very much.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - The_Tired_Philosopher - 09-25-2015
I'm having problems of self judgment, and well hidden in-plain-sight denial of judgment. Still ponder if I'm a negative oriented wanderer, while I doubt it, I still fit the description many give of the negative one's who come here, just as Min so just described.
Though I thought changing myself changes the world around me, maybe that is secretly negative in intention (Being the change to incite change in others, a nonacceptance of the current state of things -shrug- )
Actually, it's my personal distorted understanding a social memory complex is essentially a group of being's who have come together as one entity through many. I don't know if telepathy is a prerequisite of that, but I have never heard of the term 'mind/body/spirit social complex'. It sounds like a special way of saying 'Social Group of People'. Which is essentially all that this forum is.
Or maybe that's just me being judgmental and in denial.
It's hard to know, you doubt yourself greatly when you realize you're judgmental and in denial about it, you ponder if everything you think is tinted with judgmental bias, you wonder if everything you desire to do is just a distortion of this current you, and contemplate if everything you are will cease and change as the attempt is made to alter those habits.
It's weird how as a human being, you're almost nearly empty without habits, all that's left is desire and a very...complex form of silent being. At least for me, the journey has led me to a winding road which shot through a shortcut to a very dangerous and brush-covered path in the dense night of a new moon.
I like it all though. Even when arguing here now a days I feel a sort of pleasure knowing I still care, even as I constantly try to tell myself I don't because it hurts enough to be a bother.
I wonder if the approaching Lunar Occurrences have anything to do with the recent strong changes I've felt and seen in others...
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Minyatur - 09-25-2015
(09-25-2015, 11:08 AM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I'm having problems of self judgment, and well hidden in-plain-sight denial of judgment. Still ponder if I'm a negative oriented wanderer, while I doubt it, I still fit the description many give of the negative one's who come here, just as Min so just described.
Though I thought changing myself changes the world around me, maybe that is secretly negative in intention (Being the change to incite change in others, a nonacceptance of the current state of things -shrug- )
Actually, it's my personal distorted understanding a social memory complex is essentially a group of being's who have come together as one entity through many. I don't know if telepathy is a prerequisite of that, but I have never heard of the term 'mind/body/spirit social complex'. It sounds like a special way of saying 'Social Group of People'. Which is essentially all that this forum is.
Or maybe that's just me being judgmental and in denial.
It's hard to know, you doubt yourself greatly when you realize you're judgmental and in denial about it, you ponder if everything you think is tinted with judgmental bias, you wonder if everything you desire to do is just a distortion of this current you, and contemplate if everything you are will cease and change as the attempt is made to alter those habits.
It's weird how as a human being, you're almost nearly empty without habits, all that's left is desire and a very...complex form of silent being. At least for me, the journey has led me to a winding road which shot through a shortcut to a very dangerous and brush-covered path in the dense night of a new moon.
I like it all though. Even when arguing here now a days I feel a sort of pleasure knowing I still care, even as I constantly try to tell myself I don't because it hurts enough to be a bother.
I wonder if the approaching Lunar Occurrences have anything to do with the recent strong changes I've felt and seen in others...
Quote:11.17 Questioner: At what stage does a planet achieve social memory?
Ra: I am Ra. A mind/body/spirit social complex becomes a social memory complex when its entire group of entities are of one orientation or seeking. The group memory lost to the individuals in the roots of the tree of mind then become[s] known to the social complex, thus creating a social memory complex. The advantages of this complex are the relative lack of distortion in understanding the social beingness and the relative lack of distortion in pursuing the direction of seeking, for all understanding/distortions are available to the entities of the society.
Social memory complex = "super" social group people... Sure in 3D we can't have access to everything buried in the roots of the tree of others' mind, nor can we fully be of one orientation as 3D is a density focused on self in separation, but it's still the same basis of inter-balancing which is done in a 3D way.
In time/space I'd say we are a social memory complex, in space/time we are a mind/body/spirit social complex as there is no time/space awareness of the social memory. Well I guess some individuals can access this information if they unveil their ability to do so.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Minyatur - 09-25-2015
(09-25-2015, 06:26 AM)Shyrah Wrote: Holier than thou B4thers. This is far from bring a Social Memory Complex, probably an antisocial one
Antisocial might be a bit harsh, it is very merry in my view and most get along although there are frictions. I do get how some can view those frictions and feel repulsed by them, but once that is transcended they will be viewed as opportunities of growth and the free expression of self and other-selves should be seen as something positive. If everyone repressed their selves this place would be dull and provide no valuable experience for growth.
If not about the sometimes occuring frictions, I do not quite see how it is an antisocial one.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - The_Tired_Philosopher - 09-25-2015
I seriously do not recall the wording being as such, maybe I need to go back and re-read the Ra Material if I'm already forgetting such things. . .
Still though, I do disagree that we're a Social Memory Complex, even in time/space. I'd say it's closer to we can interact with each other unconsciously in ways that help forward each of us, thanks to each of our Social Memory Complexes (whether it be 1 or 70 for all I know) interacting with each other, or even just each individual interacting with each other at the higher level as we mingle about on this level.
I don't know why I don't and refuse to subscribe to the idea of us being in some shape or form a 'single' social memory complex. It just doesn't sound right to me. Why would we all belong to just one smc? As if it's meant to be? Or maybe it's in the light of a 'way it is' belief?
I don't know. I just feel like we should be more open to other interpretations of our Being in time/space, and not just settle on 'We're a social memory complex'.
I don't feel a part of that, I don't feel any connections like that here, though I've never felt such anywhere except when looking at the clock at :44. I just think we're more diverse and complex than a single Social Memory Complex, you know?
I think by antisocial the intended inference was on how hypocritical this community can be. A Service to Other forum where frictions have resulted in more loss than gain for many, and the overall feel is one not matching what is advertised in even the Guidelines.
The result can come off as antisocial. We welcome you, but if you're not part of the group we'll collide rather than merger. Examples include many debates that to this day bustle into dogma and fall into 'this way or that way'. Polarity essentially, regarding various topics... Including the muddying of such Polarity and such topics. The place is merry in ways, but as I have seen, and I know many others have too. This place calls you in spouting acceptance, peace and love, then grinds against you, judges you, insults you, and then blames you and doesn't care if you leave or not.
It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be in all honesty though. Now it's just...Quiet. Somewhat stagnant, but rousing in my opinion. Seems like the forum is pointing towards a better outcome overall. I have faith in it, otherwise I honestly would not still be here
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Minyatur - 09-25-2015
Well I guess I just have my view that Creation as a whole is a social memory complex composed of smaller social memory complexes within others within others....
About the forum being antisocial, I guess I am one who can appreciate disagreements without making it personal and shouldn't expect others to have this ability.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - Minyatur - 09-25-2015
From what I saw most are met with the intent they give off. A loving person is met with love, a criticzing is met with criticisms, etc...
Whether that is good or not is beyond the point, it is human.
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - outerheaven - 09-25-2015
(09-25-2015, 06:26 AM)Shyrah Wrote: Holier than thou B4thers. This is far from bring a Social Memory Complex, probably an antisocial one
Haha, antisocial memory complex. I like it
RE: Why old karma needs to experience itself over and over. - tamaryn - 09-25-2015
I agree with you all on your sentiments on S/M/Cs - As I subscribe to the idea mainly that we are all one complex, the Sun.
But the stronger feeling I am picking at is the feeling of watching your brothers and sisters evolve, and change from the duality around them.
I imagine watching us descend into distortion and split our souls endlessly has been easily some of the most difficult guide work they have had to do, in all their wisdom and light.