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How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Lighthead - 05-13-2015
This question may have been asked, but perhaps not in this exact way. Let's say that a Wanderer is from a 6D social memory complex. And let's say that the Wanderer, when in 3D, is increasing his or her sub-density (or even density) in terms of soul progression. What would happen to the soul progression of the social memory complex as a whole? Would that help the complex gain in their progression? And, conversely, what would happen if the Wanderer would have to repeat the 3D cycle? Would that lower the vibration of the complex?
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - VanAlioSaldo - 05-13-2015
I dislike answering directly without quotes, but I'm honestly certain Ra made a passing remark about this mechanic in one of their more...Technical Sessions regarding the Negative Social Memory Complex.
When an individual is added to a Social Memory Complex that Being directly adds on to the whole (which in relationship I imagine is a bit small compared to the whole, but just as important nonetheless). Similarly the Law of Entropy causes Social Memory Complexes to disintegrate in strength as the beings who comprise it cease to comprise it. Ra states that the Orion Memory Complex is always a fraction of their 'Strength', probably in terms of Vibration or combined vibration.
I don't know about incarnation, it may lower the vibration partially just incarnating as a portion of the Being itself moves into a different portion of existence at space/time leaving a part of itself in time/space. So possibly it just leaves the Social Memory Complex at the level it was at when the incarnations began if it doesn't return after it's incarnation. I don't know that for certain, just speculation.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Minyatur - 05-13-2015
I think it's all about cummulation of experiences.
Wandering has a way of not going with the original intentions and that is probably why it is such a powerful tool. It makes one experience what he knew not he was if you will. A good exemple is the case Ra mentionned of one of his wanderer that repolarized negatively and was troubled afterwards. I did not find the quote but I do remember it's somewhere in the material.
From the group's perspective, this is probably a "bad" thing which is contrary to what they're trying to become while in reality this is an event most useful for their evolution as it bring a different kind of awareness of experiences to the group. Despite them losing in positive polarity.
There's a difference between knowing things and experiencing them. Ra knows that in a negative time/space he couldn't be anything else than negative, but he knows not necessarily how it feels.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - AnthroHeart - 05-13-2015
I've often wondered if I can help with Ra's distortions while I am here.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Indigo Light - 05-13-2015
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I dislike answering directly without quotes, but I'm honestly certain Ra made a passing remark about this mechanic in one of their more...Technical Sessions regarding the Negative Social Memory Complex.
Ra is not the only co-creator. It is ok to form your own opinion through your own experiences. Lets not turn the Ra material into doctrine. We are all free souls to walk our own path, and dance the dance.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Diana - 05-13-2015
The way I understand the concept of Social Memory Complex is a group of individuals who are so in alignment they are as one in thinking, intention, understanding, etc. But they are still individuals, they are just magnetized to each other because of being so "precisely alike."
There would be flux within the SMC according to any individual experiences. I think if an individual within it moves out of alignment with the whole, it probably ceases to be an integral part of the SMC. Though the SMC may still be like family to the individual. The individual may just be walking another path either temporarily or entirely.
It may be this way for wanderers here. Being here, in a veiled existence trying to negotiate within 3D mass consciousness, may throw the alignment off within one's own SMC, thereby making the wanderer out here alone and out of touch. But the SMC would still be there, watching over the wanderer I imagine and assisting where possible, like a family would. The wanderer would be taking a chance of getting too caught up in things here, and losing its connection with the SMC. But really, it doesn't matter. Whatever is, is. One will always align with what one aligns with, and that will always be the best place to be.
We, as humans anyway, have a tendency to avoid change (which is crazy as this is the only observable constant), and to cling to what we have, whether that's a relationship, a job, a belief, an opinion, etc. As wanderers, we may want to cling to a SMC. But my working theory is that the path to enlightenment is alone, even though we may be connected to everything, affect everything as everything affects us. No one is going to do it for you. So it takes courage to move forward, which may be why so many people are afraid to look within and "wake up."
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Lighthead - 05-13-2015
(05-13-2015, 01:14 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I think it's all about cummulation of experiences.
Wandering has a way of not going with the original intentions and that is probably why it is such a powerful tool. It makes one experience what he knew not he was if you will. A good exemple is the case Ra mentionned of one of his wanderer that repolarized negatively and was troubled afterwards. I did not find the quote but I do remember it's somewhere in the material.
From the group's perspective, this is probably a "bad" thing which is contrary to what they're trying to become while in reality this is an event most useful for their evolution as it bring a different kind of awareness of experiences to the group. Despite them losing in positive polarity.
There's a difference between knowing things and experiencing them. Ra knows that in a negative time/space he couldn't be anything else than negative, but he knows not necessarily how it feels.
That's kind of what I think too, that all experience is good for the social memory complex. I also had an idea after I wrote the OP. I think that perhaps it all averages out. For example, if there are many that have to repeat 3D and many that progress even further, then perhaps there is no net gain or net loss. Maybe it's just an ever so slightly increasing gain over time.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - AnthroHeart - 05-13-2015
I think those that repeat 3D will want to repeat 3D. 4D would be uncomfortable for them.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - APeacefulWarrior - 05-14-2015
Like others have said, I tend to believe that sending down Wanderers to Earth is something of a "gamble" on the part of the 5- or 6D entities choosing to do it, when they're part of a Social Memory Complex. Wanderers who fail to re-obtain that higher connection, or who get too distracted by Earthly karma, would end up getting sucked back into the 3D cycle of reincarnations. That would, I think, unavoidably break their connection to the S-M-C that "spawned" them, so to speak.
Such an entity would then re-develop through 3D, 4D, 5D etc. It's possible, I guess, that after enough time it might eventually re-find and re-join its originating S-M-C, but I suspect that the entity would have changed so much during the intervening time that it would no longer resonate so strongly with the original.
(As an aside, it suddenly occurs to me that a 5D or 6D negative entity might see this as a form of propagation, creating a Wanderer and then deliberately encouraging it to get caught in the 3D cycle.)
I also have a strong suspicion that -especially now, during the Harvest- that higher-density entities like Ra with an interest in Earth's progress would need Wanderers to be "eyes and ears" on the ground, so to speak. Remember, Ra literally couldn't even talk about mundane Earthly matters without his signal de-cohering. Basically, I don't think he can even perceive human life as *we* experience it, because the vibrations are on such a different level from his own.
So, it would be inherently valuable to have Wanderers simply as a source of ongoing information and insight into the human realm. Then, after the incarnation ends, their insights\memories will further enhance the S-M-C as a whole and presumably give it more information for helping the human race advance.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Lighthead - 05-14-2015
(05-14-2015, 12:48 PM)APeacefulWarrior Wrote: (As an aside, it suddenly occurs to me that a 5D or 6D negative entity might see this as a form of propagation, creating a Wanderer and then deliberately encouraging it to get caught in the 3D cycle.)
I didn't understand this part. Could you please explain. Why would a 5D or 6D negative entity do that, and how do they "create a Wanderer"?
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - anagogy - 05-15-2015
(05-13-2015, 01:31 PM)Diana Wrote: The way I understand the concept of Social Memory Complex is a group of individuals who are so in alignment they are as one in thinking, intention, understanding, etc. But they are still individuals, they are just magnetized to each other because of being so "precisely alike."
From my perspective, I think it is like that for fourth density social memory complexes, and possibly even fifth density social memory complexes (if one chooses to be part of a complex here), but in sixth density, the harmony between individuals has become so refined that the beings literally, for all rights and reasonable purposes, become a singular consciousness. Now, they are multidimensional sure, and can focus in an infinity of different directions at once, but they are one being.
Essentially, my understanding is that the harmony between individuals becomes so refined with each succeeding density that the lines between beings begin to seriously fade and eventually dissolve altogether.
Graduating to 7th density culminates this process and all beings become truly one again. The consciousness abandons the little self in favor of the Big Self.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Stranger - 05-15-2015
It seems to me that a 6D social memory complex exists in their totality of being across all previous densities, in space-time. Therefore each of their constituent members perceive themselves and each other as a totality of all their 3d lives, 4d lives, 5d lives, and their present 6d existence, all of these occurring simultaneously in the eternal Now. That being the case, if a part of the overall consciousness of the complex ends up retracing its steps through the densities, the experience that particular entity/energy is having would also be immediately included as part of the awareness or memory of the whole. Everything is simultaneous, and in 6D they are existing in that simultaneity - I think that's what they mean when they say they are "outside time".
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Minyatur - 05-15-2015
(05-15-2015, 12:06 AM)anagogy Wrote:(05-13-2015, 01:31 PM)Diana Wrote: The way I understand the concept of Social Memory Complex is a group of individuals who are so in alignment they are as one in thinking, intention, understanding, etc. But they are still individuals, they are just magnetized to each other because of being so "precisely alike."
From my perspective, I think it is like that for fourth density social memory complexes, and possibly even fifth density social memory complexes (if one chooses to be part of a complex here), but in sixth density, the harmony between individuals has become so refined that the beings literally, for all rights and reasonable purposes, become a singular consciousness. Now, they are multidimensional sure, and can focus in an infinity of different directions at once, but they are one being.
Essentially, my understanding is that the harmony between individuals becomes so refined with each succeeding density that the lines between beings begin to seriously fade and eventually dissolve altogether.
Graduating to 7th density culminates this process and all beings become truly one again. The consciousness abandons the little self in favor of the Big Self.
Yet some individuals of those complexes are sent as wanderers to work on their imbalances.
We are the disharmonious elements.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Diana - 05-15-2015
(05-15-2015, 09:50 AM)Minyatur Wrote: Yet some individuals of those complexes are sent as wanderers to work on their imbalances.
We are the disharmonious elements.
Ha! If I am a wanderer, I can attest to the disharmonious part.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - im_not_me - 04-09-2016
(05-13-2015, 12:45 PM)Lighthead Wrote: This question may have been asked, but perhaps not in this exact way. Let's say that a Wanderer is from a 6D social memory complex. And let's say that the Wanderer, when in 3D, is increasing his or her sub-density (or even density) in terms of soul progression. What would happen to the soul progression of the social memory complex as a whole? Would that help the complex gain in their progression? And, conversely, what would happen if the Wanderer would have to repeat the 3D cycle? Would that lower the vibration of the complex?
I have a metaphor. Game companies share ideas on how to make games and how to improve their method of game making. Social memory complexes are much the same but since the purpose is so important it can be as broad as far as a population is willing to go that co operates in unison, maximizing polarity. Its a lovely concept, that can always be improved.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - im_not_me - 04-09-2016
(05-15-2015, 12:30 PM)Diana Wrote:(05-15-2015, 09:50 AM)Minyatur Wrote: Yet some individuals of those complexes are sent as wanderers to work on their imbalances.
We are the disharmonious elements.
Ha! If I am a wanderer, I can attest to the disharmonious part.
There is always some disharmony in third density. It helps us in some ways; hurts in others.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Infinite Unity - 05-01-2016
There is no disharmony, further then any entities perception. We cut the trees down. Yet they still transmute Carbon monoxide to oxygen. The unity of the creator is inescapable. From the foundation up, there is nothing but creator.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Blunt Force - 05-03-2016
"I don't know if one will be able to get out of complex".
So you either go to hospital and say that you probably have some complex, and they test on that and one gets diagnosed and tells to friends and at work and gets nice social attitude and priviledges. Or one just denies at life own personality to people.
But at the end of the day such matter is in the middle of importance at all. And to track those individuals is close to impossible, although it is clear they are not fully conscious /harmonious.
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - Manjushri - 05-03-2016
I suspect posting and conversing on Bring4th is one way.
Based on Ra's definition of a Social Memory Complex, isn't that what we are here? Literally?
RE: How does a Wanderer relate to their social memory complex - AnthroHeart - 05-04-2016
I suppose I was a part of the Bring4th social memory complex even when I was a kid.