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Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
Do we potentially have the abilities of a master, but just that are held back by the veil?
Can we potentially create any being simply with our thoughts?
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 04:52 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Do we potentially have the abilities of a master, but just that are held back by the veil?
Can we potentially create any being simply with our thoughts?
The evidence of this being so is that in time/space (I'd say in death or sleeping) things are very ephemeral. Form and such is very fluid. If you're lucid in a dream, you can easily cause something to appear.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ephemeral+definition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
The problem is when I've been lucid in a dream I never remember my life's interests. So I don't think of anything to manifest.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:15 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: The problem is when I've been lucid in a dream I never remember my life's interests. So I don't think of anything to manifest.
I, for one, am not really a fan of lucid dreaming. I don't get what the big deal is. I'm probably frequently lucid while I'm dreaming for that reason (because I don't care about it enough to suppress it). When I become lucid it kind of ruins the feel of the dream for me. For me, it feels like I'm awake. And when I'm dreaming I don't want the normalcy of feeling awake. I want it to be as weird as possible.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
You've said it. The times I've not been lucid when I've seen an anthro have been the most special.
A really deep profound connection.
Though I've had that sort of connection to a lady as well in my dream.
Though I rarely have weird dreams.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:21 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: You've said it. The times I've not been lucid when I've seen an anthro have been the most special.
A really deep profound connection.
Though I've had that sort of connection to a lady as well in my dream.
Though I rarely have weird dreams.
I tend to have bizarro dreams. They tend to be very futuristic. But even the word, futuristic, is not a good description. The feeling that I get from the dream is what is really weird. It's a sort of intangible feeling. When I tell people that I have weird dreams (that know me really well), they say it's because I'm a creative type person. It could be that I'm not a logical person at all. I'm not good at math, computers, things that require practicality and so on.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
I'm ok at math. I took linear algebra and 4 calculus levels before in college. And Quantum Mechanics I took as well and I think I made a B in it. That's quantum physics which has the psi or the wave function of the hydrogen atom. Linear Algebra uses matrices, which are level 1 tensors.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm ok at math. I took linear algebra and 4 calculus levels before in college. And Quantum Mechanics I took as well and I think I made a B in it. That's quantum physics which has the psi or the wave function of the hydrogen atom. Linear Algebra uses matrices, which are level 1 tensors.
I'm absolutely horrible at math. I'm great with thinking about spiritual things (the more abstract, the better). I'm good at poetry, making music, painting (same thing, the more abstract the better; I'm not good at illustration or realism). I'm the consummate bohemian. I understand physics, but once it delves into formulas and such, I have no idea what they're talking about. I need it given to me in plain English.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
I'm terrified to buy a canvas for fear of making a mistake on it. Even if abstract.
I've only painted in school.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:42 PM)Lighthead Wrote:(04-11-2015, 05:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm ok at math. I took linear algebra and 4 calculus levels before in college. And Quantum Mechanics I took as well and I think I made a B in it. That's quantum physics which has the psi or the wave function of the hydrogen atom. Linear Algebra uses matrices, which are level 1 tensors.
I'm absolutely horrible at math. I'm great with thinking about spiritual things (the more abstract, the better). I'm good at poetry, making music, painting (same thing, the more abstract the better; I'm not good at illustration or realism). I'm the consummate bohemian. I understand physics, but once it delves into formulas and such, I have no idea what they're talking about. I need it given to me in plain English.
You sound like What the Bleep down the rabbit hole is perfect for you. Which I believe you already own.
The Secret is also good.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:48 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:(04-11-2015, 05:42 PM)Lighthead Wrote:(04-11-2015, 05:29 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'm ok at math. I took linear algebra and 4 calculus levels before in college. And Quantum Mechanics I took as well and I think I made a B in it. That's quantum physics which has the psi or the wave function of the hydrogen atom. Linear Algebra uses matrices, which are level 1 tensors.
I'm absolutely horrible at math. I'm great with thinking about spiritual things (the more abstract, the better). I'm good at poetry, making music, painting (same thing, the more abstract the better; I'm not good at illustration or realism). I'm the consummate bohemian. I understand physics, but once it delves into formulas and such, I have no idea what they're talking about. I need it given to me in plain English.
You sound like What the Bleep down the rabbit hole is perfect for you. Which I believe you already own.
The Secret is also good.
I wish had the Quantum edition. My dad has The Secret, but I see him very rarely.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
How old are you Lighthead if I might ask?
And do you live with your mom? Or does she live with you?
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: How old are you Lighthead if I might ask?
And do you live with your mom? Or does she live with you?
I was born the same year as you, but in November. I'm 37. I live with my mom, but since I'm disabled and she's now unemployed, we're both, in a sense supporting each other. It's starting to devolve into a really complicated situation. I wish we could find a way out of this economic problem. My mom needs to get a job, but she's tired of having worked all her life. It's really rough. She got laid off.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
It's amazing how we think alike. Why can't I meet someone like you in real life?
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 06:01 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's amazing how we think alike. Why can't I meet someone like you in real life?
I really like you a lot. It's too bad I'm not gay.
No, but you're a really cool guy. I think you're last name matches your personality a lot. Lol.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 06:04 PM)Lighthead Wrote:(04-11-2015, 06:01 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's amazing how we think alike. Why can't I meet someone like you in real life?
I really like you a lot. It's too bad I'm not gay.
My last name is Sweet. So I think it matches.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 06:04 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:(04-11-2015, 06:04 PM)Lighthead Wrote:(04-11-2015, 06:01 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's amazing how we think alike. Why can't I meet someone like you in real life?
I really like you a lot. It's too bad I'm not gay.
My last name is Sweet. So I think it matches.
I know. I saw it on your website.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
I know that thoughts affect the quantum world, but how does that affect the macroscale?
How can we see measurable and substantial phenomena with our thoughts?
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 05:59 PM)Lighthead Wrote:(04-11-2015, 05:54 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: How old are you Lighthead if I might ask?
And do you live with your mom? Or does she live with you?
I was born the same year as you, but in November. I'm 37. I live with my mom, but since I'm disabled and she's now unemployed, we're both, in a sense supporting each other. It's starting to devolve into a really complicated situation. I wish we could find a way out of this economic problem. My mom needs to get a job, but she's tired of having worked all her life. It's really rough. She got laid off.
I sometimes wish I was disabled, because I have insurance to pay my home if I'm ever disabled. I've gotten it paid for a couple of times due to mental issues. Who knows if I'll be able to keep my mental function going, as I don't always take my meds.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Jeremy - 04-11-2015
We are all individuated portions of the Creator so yes, yes we are.
But that's not our purpose of existence. At least not yet
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
What's up with you Jeremy? You've gotten a lot friendlier. Not that I'm complaining.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Jeremy - 04-11-2015
Better point in my life I guess.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - AnthroHeart - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 06:58 PM)Jeremy Wrote: We are all individuated portions of the Creator so yes, yes we are.
But that's not our purpose of existence. At least not yet
Do you think ever in our life we can become masters of reality, even in our 80's?
I am 37 now. Seems I've got over 40 years to focus on the oneness and such.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Jeremy - 04-11-2015
Nah I don't believe anyone attains such a level without considerable seclusion. This busy illusion dissuades from such focus if one were to also interact with it. Maybe it's my limited knowledge of adepthood but I just can't see a way to be both in this illusion and attain such a level.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Minyatur - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 06:09 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I know that thoughts affect the quantum world, but how does that affect the macroscale?
How can we see measurable and substantial phenomena with our thoughts?
This is hard simply because the whole keeps itself coherent with itself. You'd have to overpower the reality of all if you will and many wishes not to see that. This is an era of atheism so it makes it harder.
Personnally I do not think of it as so much useful. Doing magical work won't teach other-selves the lessons they need to learn hence why it is rare.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - tamaryn - 04-11-2015
The veiled master is the True self. Yourself is ego,
The process is merging the ego with the veiled master.
Which is the process of alchemy; transformation of spirit into golden light.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Minyatur - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 08:10 PM)tamaryn Wrote: The veiled master is the True self. Yourself is ego,
The process is merging the ego with the veiled master.
Which is the process of alchemy; transformation of spirit into golden light.
What if the veiled master want to maintain the ego?
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Plenum - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 04:52 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Do we potentially have the abilities of a master, but just that are held back by the veil?
Can we potentially create any being simply with our thoughts?
I think what you are asking about is the adept.
Not everyone needs (or wants) to become an adept. It is specialised metaphysical work, and that is not part of everyone's life plan.
Positive adepts are driven by the heart, and that acts as the springboard to indigo. Negative adepts are driven by the ego (via a combination of orange and yellow ray obsessions), and seek powers and abilities for it's own sake.
The kinds of 'abilities' that are glorified regards thinking about this adept or that adept reflect one's own aspirations and current blockages.
Positive abilities are invoked for the purpose of helping or assisting others. If that is not first and foremost in one's thinking about 'power', then you are straying into other territory.
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - tamaryn - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 08:12 PM)Minyatur Wrote:(04-11-2015, 08:10 PM)tamaryn Wrote: The veiled master is the True self. Yourself is ego,
The process is merging the ego with the veiled master.
Which is the process of alchemy; transformation of spirit into golden light.
What if the veiled master want to maintain the ego?
Then the ego will go along the process of maintaining ego. Or you could say channeling ego. The path of alchemy is an entirely different path imo..
RE: Are we all just veiled masters? - Lighthead - 04-11-2015
(04-11-2015, 07:36 PM)Jeremy Wrote: Nah I don't believe anyone attains such a level without considerable seclusion. This busy illusion dissuades from such focus if one were to also interact with it. Maybe it's my limited knowledge of adepthood but I just can't see a way to be both in this illusion and attain such a level.
I think that that's actually a myth. I actually think that real life situations provide so much catalyst that a person can use that catalyst to become an adept that much faster. I think that if you're alone in a cave somewhere, you are living "without mirrors," as Ra would say.