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Corruption of Religious Texts? - carrie - 03-29-2010

hi,
I have to ask.:

My own sources indicate that many religious texts were intentionally corrupted or re-written to mislead.

Is there any statements in Law of One to back-up the statement? or maybe shed more light on the above statement?


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-29-2010

That's a very interesting question!

I don't recall anything explicitly about that in the Law of One, and when I did a search for bible, scripture, and holy book, nothing about that came up.

But, we can deduce that corruption did occur, at least in the case of the Abrahamic texts (which formed the basis for Christianity, Islam and Judaism) from the following session:

Quote:18.24 Questioner: Then Yahweh’s communications did not help or create what Yahweh wished for them to create. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. The results of this interaction were quite mixed. Where the entities were of a vibrational sum characteristic which embraced oneness, the manipulations of Yahweh were very useful. Wherein the entities of free will had chosen a less positively oriented configuration of sum total vibratory complex, those of the Orion group were able for the first time to make serious inroads upon the consciousness of the planetary complex.

24.3 Questioner: Thank you. Then I assume that the Confederation stayed away from Earth for a period of time. What condition created the next contact that the Confederation made?
Ra: I am Ra. In approximately 3,600 of your years in the past, as you measure time, there was an influx of those of the Orion group, as you call them. Due to the increasing negative influences upon thinking and acting distortions, they were able to begin working with those whose impression from olden times, as you may say, was that they were special and different.

An entity of the Confederation, many, many thousands of your years in the past, the one you may call “Yahweh,” had, by genetic cloning, set up these particular biases among these peoples who had come gradually to dwell in the vicinity of Egypt, as well as in many, many other places, by dispersion after the down-sinking of the land mass Mu. Here the Orion group found fertile soil in which to plant the seeds of negativity, these seeds, as always, being those of the elite, the different, those who manipulate or enslave others.

The one known as Yahweh felt a great responsibility to these entities. However, the Orion group had been able to impress upon the peoples the name Yahweh as the one responsible for this elitism. Yahweh then was able to take what you would call stock of its vibratory patterns and became, in effect, a more eloquently effective sound vibration complex.

60.17 Questioner: Thank you. I don’t know if this question will result in any useful information, but I feel that I must ask it. What was the ark of the covenant, and what was its use?
Ra: I am Ra. The ark of the covenant was that place wherein those things most holy, according to the understanding of the one called Moishe, were placed. The article placed therein has been called by your peoples two tablets called the Ten Commandments. There were not two tablets. There was one writing in scroll. This was placed along with the most carefully written accounts by various entities of their beliefs concerning the creation by the One Creator.

This ark was designed to constitute the place wherefrom the priests, as you call those distorted towards the desire to serve their brothers, could draw their power and feel the presence of the One Creator. However, it is to be noted that this entire arrangement was designed, not by the one known to the Confederation as Yahweh, but rather was designed by negative entities preferring this method of creating an elite called the Sons of Levi.

Questioner: Can you tell me specifically what allowed the most serious of these inroads to be made by the Orion group?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the final full question.

Specifically those who are strong, intelligent, etc., have a temptation to feel different from those who are less intelligent and less strong. This is a distorted perception of oneness with otherselves. It allowed the Orion group to form the concept of the holy war, as you may call it. This is a seriously distorted perception. There were many of these wars of a destructive nature.

These quotes indicate to me that, at least in the case of the Abrahamic texts which were the basis for these 3 religions, a lot of corruption did indeed occur. The corruption was certainly intentional on the part of the STS entities! And we all know that STS entities have their role to play in the Grand Design.

Incidentally, it's very telling to note how Ra describes the ancient books which became the old testament: written accounts by various entities of their beliefs concerning the creation by the One Creator.

How does this description differ from the generally accepted belief that 'holy' books were 'written by God' or 'inspired by God'?

...which brings up the question: Why were certain books established as holy in the first place? Why do the Christians consider the Bible holy, the Muslims the Koran holy, and the Hindus the Bhagavad Gita holy? What makes certain books written by humans as special? Why did they form the basis for religions?

Quote:26.4 Questioner: Assuming that it is all right to continue, we’re down to the last 3,000 years of this present cycle, and I was wondering if the Law of One in its written or spoken form has been made available within this last 3,000 years in any complete way such as we are doing now? Is it available in any other source?
Ra: I am Ra. There is no possibility of a complete source of information of the Law of One in this density. However, certain of your writings passed on to you as your so-called holy works have portions of this law.

I didn't find any references to Koran or Gita. But there may be some in the other Confederation sessions.


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Cyclops - 03-29-2010

Adding to Monica's post about the Orion negative influences in the bible are some excerpts here from Ra. Also I've found some other interesting excerpts about the testaments and religious texts. To me the bibles whisper hidden meanings of lesson involving the Law of One, easily misunderstood and taken as law and followed fanatically with eyes still and focused on the punishment and judgment. Many are the sessions where entities use quotes from the bible to teach from their higher understandings the hidden meaning within them.

Q'uo Channeling Intensive 1 - Session 13 - Closing Meditation February 10, 2008
Quote:We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. Indeed, it is even more limited than that. Your Holy Bible is an artifact of third density and is useful only in looking at third-density existence. Although it attempts to project into heaven worlds and worlds of hell, so-called, it cannot do so. For it has only the third-density stuff with which to work. Consequently, it is true in terms of third density that there shall always be the dynamic opposition of light and dark, negative and positive, and so forth. The choice always is betwixt the harmonization of these opposites and the war of these opposites.

The early fourth density, as we said before, often continues to cling to notions that it inherited from its third-density self. And so there is a gradual releasing of this constant feeling of war and struggle, not at the end of third density, but as one moves into the second of seven sub-densities of fourth density. However, this truth of the constancy of conflict is local to your density, my brother.

Ra Session 26 of the Law of One February 17, 1981
Quote:Questioner: Does the Bible that we know have portions of this law in it?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Can you tell me if any of the Old Testament has any of the Law of One?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

Questioner: Which has more of the Law of One in it, the Old Testament or the New Testament?

Ra: I am Ra. Withdrawing from each of the collections of which you speak the portions having to do with the Law of One, the content is approximately equal. However, the so-called Old Testament has a larger amount of negatively influenced material, as you would call it.

Questioner: Can you tell me about what percentage is of Orion influence in both the Old and New Testaments?

Ra: I am Ra. We prefer that this be left to the discretion of those who seek the Law of One. We are not speaking in order to judge. Such statements would be construed by some of those who may read this material as judgmental. We can only suggest a careful reading and inward digestion of the contents. The understandings will become obvious.

Questioner: Assuming that it is all right to continue, we’re down to the last 3,000 years of this present cycle, and I was wondering if the Law of One in its written or spoken form has been made available within this last 3,000 years in any complete way such as we are doing now? Is it available in any other source?

Ra: I am Ra. There is no possibility of a complete source of information of the Law of One in this density. However, certain of your writings passed on to you as your so-called holy works have portions of this law.

Yom Friday, August 11, 1961
Quote:There are many things that are written in your religious recordings; many words are used, many expressions, but all we have to come to realize is that these are records of history of the past, and that they were recorded by man and in many cases they were recorded by men of the times to convey to the people of their time some particular message or idea; and also in the many translations of these records, many errors have been made. You will find, if you are to search out, there are many other records whereas, that are considered as authentic as what you call your Holy Bible, and to those who use these records as their truth to follow, they are just as sure that every word therein is true and unadulterated.

Q'uo Sunday Meditation March 19, 2006
Quote:The term “ascension” is similarly trammeled with a heavy overlay of religiosity. Ascension is a term which is used in what this instrument calls the Holy Bible, in the New Testament. It is a process which is heavily laden with fear in the minds of those faithful people who attempt to understand the workings of ascension from the Christian viewpoint.

In the Christian viewpoint, the picture of the end of the Earth upon which you now enjoy life is harsh. The end comes suddenly. The world dissolves into the one known as Jesus coming down from heaven and all of the graves being opened so that all of the entities that who have died can then spring forth, take on a new and spiritual body, and if you are lucky enough to be one of the chosen, you ascend into an entirely new creation, that Utopian heaven in which you have a mansion prepared for you and are free to spend the rest of eternity praising the one infinite Creator.

As a bit of religious fiction or myth, shall we say, it is unsophisticated and simplistic and we would not know what to do with a question about this concept. We would not know where to start in order to untangle the love from the fear, the joy from the sorrow, and the good from the seemingly difficult and negative.

Q'uo Sunday Meditation March 19, 2006
Quote:The problem with using religious terminology, in general, is that it is distorted in the way that anything will be distorted while gazing at it through a corrective lens. The perceived job of religions, as seen by the religion itself, is to create a distorted lens so that entities with bad eyesight can see their vision of the one infinite Creator. Therefore, they set up terminology, structures of thought and words which create a correction to the innocent vision of the faithful, offering to them the corrections of points of dogma in a certain pattern which, when received in faith, shall create that correction to the sight that will give them the heavenly vision of the new Jerusalem.

The problem with any dogmatic source, of course, is that the Creator Itself is not dogmatic nor is it subject to being described by the humans who are attempting to honor and worship that Creator or that great creative force or Thought. Therefore, the terms used—that is, the term “ascension” and the term “Holy Spirit”—alike are weighed down with an inadvertently heavy burden of inference and assumption. When what this instrument would call fundamentalist, inerrantist Christians use these terms, they are using them in a very narrow sense, specific to the New Testament and even more specifically to the Book of Revelation.



RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-29-2010

Great quotes, Cyclops! Do you have the dates of the other quotes?


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Cyclops - 03-29-2010

It should now read with all of the dates present.


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - kylissa - 03-29-2010

excellent set of quotes, Cyclops and Monica, thanks!


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Peregrinus - 03-30-2010

The Bible and the Koran are similar, except the Koran contains many books which were left out of the Bible. The Koran also says Jesus is the Son of God. I think it ironic how two faiths that believe many of the same things war against each other... and have done so for centuries.

If one searches Google, they can find lists of the books that were left out. The Bible was put together in the 4th century by Constantine (Ever hear of Constantinople?), the Turk who had sacked Rome and became Emperor. There were 50 exact copies made when it was all said and done, the "definitive" and authorized version.

There were several reasons for leaving books out:
- some books were considered too new.
- some books were considered repetitious.
- some books were considered too enlightening
- some books were considered to be undesirable. It was deemed that a patriarchal religion would better be able to control people, and as thus all matriarchal books were removed, such as the Gospels of Mary (Magdalene, who was a disciple, not a prostitute), the Story of the Virgin Mary (and her mother's immaculate conception of her at the age of 82), The Infancy of Christ, which told of Jehoshua killing another boy by pushing him off a roof, among other stories, and many more. I don't remember which book it was in, but Jehoshua's mother Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to him, but went on to give birth (not immaculately) to eight brothers and two sisters. Of course, Joseph and Mary were not Christian, but Essene, and as such had all their children out of wedlock, for the Essene did not marry.

It doesn't take me long to have a religious person's head swimming in circles if I ask the right questions, hehe... so much was left out, it really could be considered incomplete. There are other things which the Bible simply does not account for, nor did it reasonably in any of the lost books. Take for example Adam and Eve. They had 12 sons and daughters. Who did these sons and daughters marry? Since the Bible says incest is a sin, where did other people come from? or did they marry each other and propagate? There was a book which tried to reasonably explain this, but did so poorly, and as such was left out.


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Brittany - 03-30-2010

I'm thinking just about any text has the potential to be corrupted. There will always be those who deem deception as the quickest ways to achieve their ends, and we have no way of making sure what we write and copy in our books is immune to tampering, or even just gross misinterpretation over time. I'd say this is where your own discretion and discernment becomes important. There are seeds of truth in everything, but probably seeds of lies as well. It's up to the individual to find out what resonates.


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Richard - 03-30-2010

Plus…the entire mode of interpretation of christian scripture was changed in the 16th century by the Council of Trent. For political as well as spiritual purposes. It’s a mistake to try and separate religion / spiritual issues from the human politics of any era. More control to prop up the power structure of Rome..at the time.

Richard


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010

(03-30-2010, 02:20 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: The Bible and the Koran are similar, except the Koran contains many books which were left out of the Bible. The Koran also says Jesus is the Son of God. I think it ironic how two faiths that believe many of the same things war against each other... and have done so for centuries.

If one searches Google, they can find lists of the books that were left out. The Bible was put together in the 4th century by Constantine (Ever hear of Constantinople?), the Turk who had sacked Rome and became Emperor. There were 50 exact copies made when it was all said and done, the "definitive" and authorized version.

There were several reasons for leaving books out:
- some books were considered too new.
- some books were considered repetitious.
- some books were considered too enlightening
- some books were considered to be undesirable. It was deemed that a patriarchal religion would better be able to control people, and as thus all matriarchal books were removed, such as the Gospels of Mary (Magdalene, who was a disciple, not a prostitute), the Story of the Virgin Mary (and her mother's immaculate conception of her at the age of 82), The Infancy of Christ, which told of Jehoshua killing another boy by pushing him off a roof, among other stories, and many more. I don't remember which book it was in, but Jehoshua's mother Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to him, but went on to give birth (not immaculately) to eight brothers and two sisters. Of course, Joseph and Mary were not Christian, but Essene, and as such had all their children out of wedlock, for the Essene did not marry.

It doesn't take me long to have a religious person's head swimming in circles if I ask the right questions, hehe... so much was left out, it really could be considered incomplete. There are other things which the Bible simply does not account for, nor did it reasonably in any of the lost books. Take for example Adam and Eve. They had 12 sons and daughters. Who did these sons and daughters marry? Since the Bible says incest is a sin, where did other people come from? or did they marry each other and propagate? There was a book which tried to reasonably explain this, but did so poorly, and as such was left out.

Ahhh, But what of Lot and his Daughters... I find the Bible full of Inequity and pepetuation of Inequity through its propensity to inspire Orthodoxy! LOL Read it carefully and you will see plenty of instances of Incest and Rape in many of the books.

fairyfarmgirl


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-30-2010

(03-30-2010, 11:11 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I find the Bible full of Inequity and pepetuation of Inequity through its propensity to inspire Orthodoxy! LOL Read it carefully and you will see plenty of instances of Incest and Rape in many of the books.

Yeah, and not only that, but they are commanded by 'God' in many cases.


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010

Ahhhhhh Yes, the Jehovah Hoax....

fairyfamgirl


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-30-2010

(03-30-2010, 01:04 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Ahhhhhh Yes, the Jehovah Hoax....

I remember back when I was into the Bible, reading the old testament, and one day realizing, hey wait, this is GOD telling them to slaughter all the children???

Thus began the stirrings of doubt in my mind...and walls of programming came tumbling down. I dared not voice my concerns to anyone, they were so radical! But then I read the Law of One, and one of those 'Aha!' moments came when I read of the Yahweh deception. This explained it perfectly! Of course a primitive tribe would think that a powerful darklord alien was 'God!'


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010

Thankfully, the Angels of Light who are ever present intervened on behalf of the child that was about to be slaughtered! I doubt truthfully Issac lay upon the sacrificial rock quietly!

fairyfarmgirl


RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - love everything - 04-17-2010

Hello carrie,

I am glad you felt compelled to ask:

"Is there any statements in Law of One to back-up the statement? or maybe shed more light on the above statement?"

The Law of One is everything so there is no statement required, no-thing is without Intention, I you think that your Intention is you then this is the illusion of Intention, It is the Intention Of One..............If someone "intentionally" changed the writings of another then this is from the Intention Of One......I know, I know does your head in........I laugh when humans say to me "Look what I got".....I is the One, had it always.......

Love Everything xxx