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Corruption of Religious Texts? - carrie - 03-29-2010 hi, I have to ask.: My own sources indicate that many religious texts were intentionally corrupted or re-written to mislead. Is there any statements in Law of One to back-up the statement? or maybe shed more light on the above statement? RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-29-2010 That's a very interesting question! I don't recall anything explicitly about that in the Law of One, and when I did a search for bible, scripture, and holy book, nothing about that came up. But, we can deduce that corruption did occur, at least in the case of the Abrahamic texts (which formed the basis for Christianity, Islam and Judaism) from the following session: Quote:18.24 Questioner: Then Yahweh’s communications did not help or create what Yahweh wished for them to create. Is this correct? These quotes indicate to me that, at least in the case of the Abrahamic texts which were the basis for these 3 religions, a lot of corruption did indeed occur. The corruption was certainly intentional on the part of the STS entities! And we all know that STS entities have their role to play in the Grand Design. Incidentally, it's very telling to note how Ra describes the ancient books which became the old testament: written accounts by various entities of their beliefs concerning the creation by the One Creator. How does this description differ from the generally accepted belief that 'holy' books were 'written by God' or 'inspired by God'? ...which brings up the question: Why were certain books established as holy in the first place? Why do the Christians consider the Bible holy, the Muslims the Koran holy, and the Hindus the Bhagavad Gita holy? What makes certain books written by humans as special? Why did they form the basis for religions? Quote:26.4 Questioner: Assuming that it is all right to continue, we’re down to the last 3,000 years of this present cycle, and I was wondering if the Law of One in its written or spoken form has been made available within this last 3,000 years in any complete way such as we are doing now? Is it available in any other source? I didn't find any references to Koran or Gita. But there may be some in the other Confederation sessions. RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Cyclops - 03-29-2010 Adding to Monica's post about the Orion negative influences in the bible are some excerpts here from Ra. Also I've found some other interesting excerpts about the testaments and religious texts. To me the bibles whisper hidden meanings of lesson involving the Law of One, easily misunderstood and taken as law and followed fanatically with eyes still and focused on the punishment and judgment. Many are the sessions where entities use quotes from the bible to teach from their higher understandings the hidden meaning within them. Q'uo Channeling Intensive 1 - Session 13 - Closing Meditation February 10, 2008 Quote:We are those of Q’uo, and are aware of your query, my brother. Indeed, it is even more limited than that. Your Holy Bible is an artifact of third density and is useful only in looking at third-density existence. Although it attempts to project into heaven worlds and worlds of hell, so-called, it cannot do so. For it has only the third-density stuff with which to work. Consequently, it is true in terms of third density that there shall always be the dynamic opposition of light and dark, negative and positive, and so forth. The choice always is betwixt the harmonization of these opposites and the war of these opposites. Ra Session 26 of the Law of One February 17, 1981 Quote:Questioner: Does the Bible that we know have portions of this law in it? Yom Friday, August 11, 1961 Quote:There are many things that are written in your religious recordings; many words are used, many expressions, but all we have to come to realize is that these are records of history of the past, and that they were recorded by man and in many cases they were recorded by men of the times to convey to the people of their time some particular message or idea; and also in the many translations of these records, many errors have been made. You will find, if you are to search out, there are many other records whereas, that are considered as authentic as what you call your Holy Bible, and to those who use these records as their truth to follow, they are just as sure that every word therein is true and unadulterated. Q'uo Sunday Meditation March 19, 2006 Quote:The term “ascension” is similarly trammeled with a heavy overlay of religiosity. Ascension is a term which is used in what this instrument calls the Holy Bible, in the New Testament. It is a process which is heavily laden with fear in the minds of those faithful people who attempt to understand the workings of ascension from the Christian viewpoint. Q'uo Sunday Meditation March 19, 2006 Quote:The problem with using religious terminology, in general, is that it is distorted in the way that anything will be distorted while gazing at it through a corrective lens. The perceived job of religions, as seen by the religion itself, is to create a distorted lens so that entities with bad eyesight can see their vision of the one infinite Creator. Therefore, they set up terminology, structures of thought and words which create a correction to the innocent vision of the faithful, offering to them the corrections of points of dogma in a certain pattern which, when received in faith, shall create that correction to the sight that will give them the heavenly vision of the new Jerusalem. RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-29-2010 Great quotes, Cyclops! Do you have the dates of the other quotes? RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Cyclops - 03-29-2010 It should now read with all of the dates present. RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - kylissa - 03-29-2010 excellent set of quotes, Cyclops and Monica, thanks! RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Peregrinus - 03-30-2010 The Bible and the Koran are similar, except the Koran contains many books which were left out of the Bible. The Koran also says Jesus is the Son of God. I think it ironic how two faiths that believe many of the same things war against each other... and have done so for centuries. If one searches Google, they can find lists of the books that were left out. The Bible was put together in the 4th century by Constantine (Ever hear of Constantinople?), the Turk who had sacked Rome and became Emperor. There were 50 exact copies made when it was all said and done, the "definitive" and authorized version. There were several reasons for leaving books out: - some books were considered too new. - some books were considered repetitious. - some books were considered too enlightening - some books were considered to be undesirable. It was deemed that a patriarchal religion would better be able to control people, and as thus all matriarchal books were removed, such as the Gospels of Mary (Magdalene, who was a disciple, not a prostitute), the Story of the Virgin Mary (and her mother's immaculate conception of her at the age of 82), The Infancy of Christ, which told of Jehoshua killing another boy by pushing him off a roof, among other stories, and many more. I don't remember which book it was in, but Jehoshua's mother Mary was a virgin when she gave birth to him, but went on to give birth (not immaculately) to eight brothers and two sisters. Of course, Joseph and Mary were not Christian, but Essene, and as such had all their children out of wedlock, for the Essene did not marry. It doesn't take me long to have a religious person's head swimming in circles if I ask the right questions, hehe... so much was left out, it really could be considered incomplete. There are other things which the Bible simply does not account for, nor did it reasonably in any of the lost books. Take for example Adam and Eve. They had 12 sons and daughters. Who did these sons and daughters marry? Since the Bible says incest is a sin, where did other people come from? or did they marry each other and propagate? There was a book which tried to reasonably explain this, but did so poorly, and as such was left out. RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Brittany - 03-30-2010 I'm thinking just about any text has the potential to be corrupted. There will always be those who deem deception as the quickest ways to achieve their ends, and we have no way of making sure what we write and copy in our books is immune to tampering, or even just gross misinterpretation over time. I'd say this is where your own discretion and discernment becomes important. There are seeds of truth in everything, but probably seeds of lies as well. It's up to the individual to find out what resonates. RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Richard - 03-30-2010 Plus…the entire mode of interpretation of christian scripture was changed in the 16th century by the Council of Trent. For political as well as spiritual purposes. It’s a mistake to try and separate religion / spiritual issues from the human politics of any era. More control to prop up the power structure of Rome..at the time. Richard RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010 (03-30-2010, 02:20 AM)Peregrinus Wrote: The Bible and the Koran are similar, except the Koran contains many books which were left out of the Bible. The Koran also says Jesus is the Son of God. I think it ironic how two faiths that believe many of the same things war against each other... and have done so for centuries. Ahhh, But what of Lot and his Daughters... I find the Bible full of Inequity and pepetuation of Inequity through its propensity to inspire Orthodoxy! LOL Read it carefully and you will see plenty of instances of Incest and Rape in many of the books. fairyfarmgirl RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-30-2010 (03-30-2010, 11:11 AM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: I find the Bible full of Inequity and pepetuation of Inequity through its propensity to inspire Orthodoxy! LOL Read it carefully and you will see plenty of instances of Incest and Rape in many of the books. Yeah, and not only that, but they are commanded by 'God' in many cases. RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010 Ahhhhhh Yes, the Jehovah Hoax.... fairyfamgirl RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - Monica - 03-30-2010 (03-30-2010, 01:04 PM)fairyfarmgirl Wrote: Ahhhhhh Yes, the Jehovah Hoax.... I remember back when I was into the Bible, reading the old testament, and one day realizing, hey wait, this is GOD telling them to slaughter all the children??? Thus began the stirrings of doubt in my mind...and walls of programming came tumbling down. I dared not voice my concerns to anyone, they were so radical! But then I read the Law of One, and one of those 'Aha!' moments came when I read of the Yahweh deception. This explained it perfectly! Of course a primitive tribe would think that a powerful darklord alien was 'God!' RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - fairyfarmgirl - 03-30-2010 Thankfully, the Angels of Light who are ever present intervened on behalf of the child that was about to be slaughtered! I doubt truthfully Issac lay upon the sacrificial rock quietly! fairyfarmgirl RE: Corruption of Religious Texts? - love everything - 04-17-2010 Hello carrie, I am glad you felt compelled to ask: "Is there any statements in Law of One to back-up the statement? or maybe shed more light on the above statement?" The Law of One is everything so there is no statement required, no-thing is without Intention, I you think that your Intention is you then this is the illusion of Intention, It is the Intention Of One..............If someone "intentionally" changed the writings of another then this is from the Intention Of One......I know, I know does your head in........I laugh when humans say to me "Look what I got".....I is the One, had it always....... Love Everything xxx |