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perceiving God - bosphorus - 03-18-2015
Dear folks,
i've just prepared a poll about perceiving God. Could you take time to fill it?
Thanks
RE: perceiving God - AnthroHeart - 03-18-2015
Panentheism, but I also believe that 4D+ entities are gods.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
Humanity has lost its literal Father time and time again in families, and politically through the loss of male leaders.
The remnants of this ever-lasting dependency on the chauvinist, egotistical father figure remain within the concept that is God: It is anti-feminism embodied.
As for a 7th-dimensional "entity" you will find a non-entity's voice that figuratively screams for your independence and attests for its nonexistence, attesting as insignificant and only existing as you and all, like the universe itself.
At the 8th-dimension, there is only mysterious emptiness that is also everything at once: No dickhead of a "father."
No, in other words, I don't have daddy issues.
RE: perceiving God - bosphorus - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 12:09 PM)Adonai One Wrote: Humanity has lost its literal Father time and time again in families and politically through the loss of male leaders.
The remnants of this ever lasting dependency on the chauvinist, egotistical father figure remain within the concept that of God: It is anti-feminism embodied.
What kind of entry is that? It sounds like schizophrenic
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
God doesn't exist. Humanity is dependent on male authority and dedicated a religion to it.
No, the universe isn't a human male chauvinist. Atheism is the only logical option unless you believe you can anthropomorphize everything successfully across all space and time.
RE: perceiving God - AnthroHeart - 03-18-2015
HeHe, he said anthromorphize.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
Obviously you are talking about the word God in a purely Christian context.
There are other concepts of God beyond the "Father" concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_Sof
"The Zohar explains the term "Ein Sof" as follows:
Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point... But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name "YHWH".[2]
In other words, "Ein Sof" signifies "the nameless being." In another passage the Zohar reduces the term to "Ein" (non-existent), because God so transcends human understanding as to be practically non-existent."
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 12:22 PM)Adonai One Wrote: God doesn't exist. Humanity is dependent on male authority and dedicated a religion to it.
No, the universe isn't a human male chauvinist. Atheism is the only logical option unless you believe you can anthropomorphize everything successfully across all space and time.
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RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 12:28 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Obviously you are talking about the word God in a purely Christian context.
There are other concepts of God beyond the "Father" concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_Sof
"The Zohar explains the term "Ein Sof" as follows:
Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point... But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name "YHWH".[2]
In other words, "Ein Sof" signifies "the nameless being." In another passage the Zohar reduces the term to "Ein" (non-existent), because God so transcends human understanding as to be practically non-existent."
I see no "God." I see nothing significant.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 12:32 PM)Adonai One Wrote:(03-18-2015, 12:28 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Obviously you are talking about the word God in a purely Christian context.
There are other concepts of God beyond the "Father" concept.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ein_Sof
"The Zohar explains the term "Ein Sof" as follows:
Before He gave any shape to the world, before He produced any form, He was alone, without form and without resemblance to anything else. Who then can comprehend how He was before the Creation? Hence it is forbidden to lend Him any form or similitude, or even to call Him by His sacred name, or to indicate Him by a single letter or a single point... But after He created the form of the Heavenly Man, He used him as a chariot wherein to descend, and He wishes to be called after His form, which is the sacred name "YHWH".[2]
In other words, "Ein Sof" signifies "the nameless being." In another passage the Zohar reduces the term to "Ein" (non-existent), because God so transcends human understanding as to be practically non-existent."
I see no "God." I see nothing significant.
Sounds nihilistic.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
In the course of The Significator, everything will be a thing so seamlessly that mathematics and "things" will be non-consonant with The Law of One: The naming by significance, the naming by way of The Significator is the greatest and only true infringement of The Law of One.
Naming especially has no place upon unity especially as "God" or "Theos:" Our language will die and we will inevitably find any concept of "thing" vanished whether you choose to see everything as nothing or nothing as everything.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
Maybe, maybe not. Interesting theory.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 01:01 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Maybe, maybe not. Interesting theory.
The concept of non-idolatry in any case, non-attachment is simply Zen.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 01:06 PM)Adonai One Wrote:(03-18-2015, 01:01 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Maybe, maybe not. Interesting theory.
The concept of non-idolatry in any case, non-attachment is simply Zen.
Wouldn't true Zen be like the Tao? The word that is the Tao is not the Tao. The word that is Zen is not Zen.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
As I have said on this forum: When Zen is Zen the human body won't have a jaw or vocal chords; Zen being all as meditation alone.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
Cool, so what are you doing in the meantime?
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 01:13 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Cool, so what are you doing in the meantime?
Meditating and drinking tea.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
Sounds like a thrilling billions of years.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 01:18 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Sounds like a thrilling billions of years.
It is difficult to retain any sense of stability without seeing this as "thrilling" upon old age. Alcoholism and addiction tends to get those who seek only thrills.
If Ra exists, existing only as literal light, you will find they don't even have a need for tea; Only meditation. Their wandering is simply a fixture of meditating so far they feel this planet as a minor daily sore in their life.
In such, this planet needs to get its crap together and just meditate.
RE: perceiving God - AngelofDeath - 03-18-2015
Why? So you don't have to deal with the way it is now?
RE: perceiving God - Raz - 03-18-2015
understanding, comprehending and have a sense of connection to what the word god points to from this perspective is like understanding, comprehending and have a sense of connection to your awake life while dreaming... If you manage to do that (comprehending life while sleeping) that is called Lucid dreaming (and that can be done on many levels). If you manage to comprehend and sense God self while in this physical body you are (in my view) "enlightened" (the word I use for "awake lucid dreaming").
metaphorically speaking =)
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 01:31 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: Why? So you don't have to deal with the way it is now?
I have no whys. I have relieved The Significator in my life. I have no purpose as I have accepted everything as purposeful to the point it's trivial, a truism.
I am dealing: I followed the racial mind, acquired a wife and I subside; People come to me with problems and I remind them of mental health and why a mind requires bodily inactivity if you don't wish to see it atrophy and decay. My life simply mirrors the initial confederation message of meditation and seeing all as well.
RE: perceiving God - isis - 03-18-2015
why didn't you vote, bosphorus?
RE: perceiving God - bosphorus - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 02:28 PM)isis Wrote: why didn't you vote, bosphorus?
I did, isis. Thanks
RE: perceiving God - AnthroHeart - 03-18-2015
I've never heard of Cosmic Life Force.
How is that different from God?
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 03:12 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've never heard of Cosmic Life Force.
How is that different from God?
It is not. It is still God in that some object, concept or thing is held as the ultimate purpose of life, like attempting to meet a father's standards that can never be met. "Cosmic Life Force" is equivalent to Star War's "The Force;" A dogmatic placeholder for one's failed attempts at mental stability and self-actualization.
RE: perceiving God - Spaced - 03-18-2015
Yup. Definitely no daddy issues here.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 03:34 PM)Spaced Wrote: Yup. Definitely no daddy issues here.
I was abused by numerous "fathers" (keep my biological father out of this) in my life. At least I can now see the abuse I chose that I now choose to heal. I currently do not have a strong tendency to debase myself for male figures in religious, academic, familial and economic settings.
RE: perceiving God - Spaced - 03-18-2015
Instead you allow your aversion to such figures to shape your experience. same thing.
RE: perceiving God - Adonai One - 03-18-2015
(03-18-2015, 03:52 PM)Spaced Wrote: Instead you allow your aversion to such figures to shape your experience. same thing.
The female polarity being one of nurturing, compassion instead of discipline, wisdom; I commit to avoiding masculine spiritual influence most wisely.