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RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 06-25-2015
It's pretty difficult to relax enough to be effortless. What you had then was a genuine desire to receive. That is the most critical element of all magic I have so far found, receptivity. Opening yourself, learning to be sensitive, even vulnerable to a degree to open your heart to love that is offered to you.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Minyatur - 06-25-2015
(06-25-2015, 02:26 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: It's pretty difficult to relax enough to be effortless. What you had then was a genuine desire to receive. That is the most critical element of all magic I have so far found, receptivity. Opening yourself, learning to be sensitive, even vulnerable to a degree to open your heart to love that is offered to you.
I'd say that pinpoint exactly that when doing the ritual I'm more trying to do something than to open myself.
I've started incorporating thankfulness during the ritual for what is or is not provided to me, for the contact.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 06-25-2015
Stop trying to 'do things' and instead open yourself to 'things happening'.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 06-25-2015
I'd say thankfulness is better after the ritual than during, personally.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Minyatur - 06-25-2015
(06-25-2015, 02:33 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Stop trying to 'do things' and instead open yourself to 'things happening'.
Easier to say than to do, when nothing is happening you tend to try to make something happen.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 06-25-2015
That may be because you are trying to do something for the start. Just experience it. Of course it is hard, that is why it takes practice.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - VanAlioSaldo - 06-26-2015
(06-25-2015, 03:11 AM)Parsons Wrote: I felt like my whole body and mind was brimming with electric potential. That and I felt somehow 'pure'.
I REMEMBER THAT, you got a nice dose of loving polarized energy to work with passively. Be kindly when using it, its easy to overexert Or at least it is for me since I'm a bit strong armed when in comes to handling people with love.
This feeling.you.do get used to, the intensity will normalize like the body adjusts to being in water or a temperature change. Call it desensitization or what not, I prefer to call it a real physical phenonenon that your body can become familiar with, it made me at first concerned if I wasnt being of Service but keep faith, you'll always feel it, itll just feel less and less like you need to exert effort.
The charge begins perpetuating its self, that's when things get effortless here and there. Its also the easiest time to grow lazy so if youre predisposed by your personality to laziness, be wary of being.inactive.
Minyatur. I have a feeling you are literally.blocking yourself by the Law of Attraction.
You keep saying that you can't, you tried, its this, you're that. You sound like me! Stop making me project myself on you D:
Min having faith is a deeply personal thing for some and others hold shallowly no faith (Nihilism cmon) , Try reaffirming your own belief to yourself, or provide yourself positive affirmations across the day.
I will do the LBRP and practice it. i will have patience with my impatience. i will trust my actions and words are seen by the Creator to be genuine and sincere. I will not cede in anyway, I will finish this working to my heart's desire.
I will not fail, failure is a lesson to be learned, I do not fail even as I have. My faith is within and I desire to find my faith. (I used :44 on the clock as per the 11:11 dealio to remind me to have faith)
My doubts may come, I will accept them with an open heart/mind/conscious and remain in belief of myself and belief in my faith.
Min, if you believe in your faith daily and consistently consciously attempt to be of your faith, you'll find it much faster than looking around passively for it.
As far as passion goes, Tan isnt wrong, but some seem to also experience it uniquely by design so you might just be special, if you use your lower emotional threshold to down yourself, do you really not feel, or are you just numb unable to feel your occurring feelings, yet you've the thoughts they trigger itd seem.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Minyatur - 06-26-2015
i do feel something and do have faith that my actions ultimately work toward something. I'm just impatient toward results rather than focusing on the intent.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - VanAlioSaldo - 06-26-2015
Hey man, I literally just told you you're hurting yourself by constantly reaffirming your impatience.
Why you hurting yourself unconsciously intentionally?
Why do you dislike your impatience? Whats wrong with it??
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Minyatur - 06-26-2015
(06-26-2015, 06:39 AM)VanAlioSaldo Wrote: Hey man, I literally just told you you're hurting yourself by constantly reaffirming your impatience.
Why you hurting yourself unconsciously intentionally?
Why do you dislike your impatience? Whats wrong with it??
I'm a gemini, that's how I reevaluate myself, by talking about it. I might say I am impatient but at other times I am too patient/passive.
By talking about myself I think I'm rather facing myself than hurting myself, it helps to know myself.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - VanAlioSaldo - 06-26-2015
I operate similarly, just a personal experience to share regarding this.
It still continues effecting your reality. You can call yourself impatient, just make sure to keep it more positive than negative in intent on why you're stating such. If it's to make yourself aware, that's good, but if you keep calling yourself impatient without any intent to actually do anything about it, you're just making yourself all the more impatient unintentionally.
Odd how that works!
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Minyatur - 06-26-2015
I'd say it acts as a reminder, so making myself more aware is the intent.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - VanAlioSaldo - 06-26-2015
You should try a morning and evening re-affirmation then. They work wonders for me in keeping on track across the day with my intent and desire.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 06-26-2015
I just had a thought that might help you guys digest the whole 'banishing' idea a little easier. That being that the idea behind banishing is to release resistance within the self which is both towards others and towards oneself.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Parsons - 06-28-2015
Any rituals for cleansing one's chakras (clearing/balancing)?
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - VanAlioSaldo - 06-28-2015
(06-28-2015, 03:34 AM)Parsons Wrote: Any rituals for cleansing one's chakras (clearing/balancing)?
Meditation and personal discipline are all I know to offer to you. Someone might have something else for you since I'm not well versed in rituals.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 06-28-2015
(06-28-2015, 03:34 AM)Parsons Wrote: Any rituals for cleansing one's chakras (clearing/balancing)?
Well it seems you've done the QC and LBRP for awhile, you could try the Middle Pillar.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Parsons - 07-13-2015
(06-15-2015, 02:26 PM)Farseer Wrote: Also, reading more about the LBRP it looks like what makes it a Banishing ritual is the particular use of the pentagram and the way it is drawn. However, if one does the Pentagram in a different fashion, in the reverse direction (rather than starting at the left hip and going to the crown, starting at the crown and going down to the left) it is an Invoking Pentagram and that version of the Lesser Ritual of the Pentagram is more for prayer and calling to surround yourself with the positive forces.
It's recommended that you do an Lesser Invoking Ritual of the Pentagram in the morning to call in all of the divine forces, and then doing the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram at night before you sleep to clear out any excess or lingering entities.
I have been wanting to start doing the invocation ritual in the morning but have been unsure how to go about it.
So that is the only part that is reversed? I still start/end facing East? I still rotate clockwise? I should still begin/end with the Q Cross?
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 07-13-2015
Yeah, as far as I've understood it that is the only difference between the invocation and the banishing forms. The pentagram is the core symbol of the ritual and represents the ritual as a whole, so such a change isn't insignificant.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 07-13-2015
Also, it's not so much that that part is merely 'reversed' and to think of it that way may be misleading. Instead think about the direction from spirit to earth. When banishing you start at the point of Earth and move up to Spirit. This signifies a release of movement from the lowest to the highest and can be seen as Earth being transmuted in to Spirit, and thus lower vibrations released to higher ones.
On the other hand, the invocation moves from Spirit to Earth, signifying a drawing down of the Spirit to dwell within the body, within the Earth.
Let me mention there are two primary modes in magic - invocation and evocation. Invocation is to call something within yourself, such as through channeling or assumption of archetypes. Evocation is calling something before you, to appear on its own before you rather than being invoked within yourself. Evocation can be dangerous and isn't recommended until much work has been done typically.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 07-13-2015
Banishing is technically an evocation, but kind of in reverse. I guess it can be thought of as an evocation to call for only the highest, purest light to fill your space and be present in your sphere.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-04-2016
Bump.
Found a document that might be of a more direct aid for some.
http://api.ning.com/files/Ltz8IQUQkiJYrWKyLohKzXauc938yMy-mkdLN51VTd6rlICDbIVuIF8RJ1p*tk5eMAzFtcwUbhb7*42GU3fOwS5fUs54uwtX/TheBanishingoftheLesserPentagram1.pdf
Would edit the OP but I'm no longer on that account.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 02-04-2016
Thelema always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'll use the Regardie version over anything Crowleyan any day.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-05-2016
Would you care to comment as to why this is?
I kind of agree but it's because the intent doesn't feel proper in my mind, yet still the resource was available so I thought I should share it.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 02-05-2016
Exactly as you say. Just look at the big magical circle on the first page. The inverted pentagram represents the dominance of the elements over spirit. Thelema uses many inverted symbols for the purpose of drawing power in to the physical. Although it could maybe be used purely in the right hands it is hard for me to think the technique itself isn't useful only for personal power, as that seems to be the essence of the Thelemic goal.
Ra suggests Crowley was a positive entity who was 'overstimulated' and so fell in to negative patterns. I think that touch of positivity is still in his works and is what attracts so many to it, but I believe it is heavily distorted.
Gurdjieff, whom Crowley greatly respected, considered Crowley a 'black or at least ignorant magician' when he encountered him. It seems that for all the world being convinced of his 'wickedness' he by no means shied away from embracing that power over others, even if he believed it was for their benefit. He took full advantage of peoples' fears.
So, I feel that despite his maybe positive core, I think his teachings are so heavily distorted that even trying to make positive use of them may just lead one in to deception because the system does not appear to be built with that intent. I have met Thelemites on both end of the spectrum though, but only one who is purely Thelemic and seems positive, the others usually are involved in other practices which balances out their Thelemic understanding.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-05-2016
That actually ironically fits what I was looking for perfectly, if that first image is as you say a representation of the Elements being dominant over spirit, would it not be possible to utilize this as if to say, The Mundane is as we misperceive the Divine to be Dominant? A balancing of the collective misunderstanding?
Using negation to bring balance?
Or, am I just going into insanity with this line of thought??
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 02-05-2016
If I'm being honest I think you are being pulled to the negative polarity and appear to have attractions to black magic. I've partly considered there may be someone who is aware of you and is attempting to use your current state to pull you down that path. You may not even know or be aware of this person/entity and there may be no relation. You may simply have been a 'lucky find' for them.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - The_Tired_Philosopher - 02-05-2016
I've thought about using Black Magic for positive outcome and White Magic for negative outcome just to see how it plays out with reality.
I'm also curious of the negative path but not past intentionally harming others, more for manipulating itself for my own ends, which typically could be said to be STO oriented in intention.
Maybe if Reality made more sense to me, I wouldn't be going about things these ways like a kid in a chemisty (alchemistry?) lab trying out mixture A with mixture G knowing doing that might be volatile.
But, hey, learning, and eternity. I don't know. And that is by design. I'll see where I take myself, and eventually once I get a full grasp on it all... I'll begin leading myself again instead of letting myself stumble from Moment to Moment using Mixture A and Mixture G to try and figure out how to get to Substance T.
Or however it all goes, I really do not know, and the annoying nature of this place does tend to have me looking both directions at the same time, however that might be possible.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - AnthroHeart - 02-05-2016
I hope I can locate you all when I'm in 6D again.
RE: The Vibratory Formulae - Aion - 02-06-2016
(02-05-2016, 08:55 PM)The_Tired_Philosopher Wrote: I've thought about using Black Magic for positive outcome and White Magic for negative outcome just to see how it plays out with reality.
I'm also curious of the negative path but not past intentionally harming others, more for manipulating itself for my own ends, which typically could be said to be STO oriented in intention.
Maybe if Reality made more sense to me, I wouldn't be going about things these ways like a kid in a chemisty (alchemistry?) lab trying out mixture A with mixture G knowing doing that might be volatile.
But, hey, learning, and eternity. I don't know. And that is by design. I'll see where I take myself, and eventually once I get a full grasp on it all... I'll begin leading myself again instead of letting myself stumble from Moment to Moment using Mixture A and Mixture G to try and figure out how to get to Substance T.
Or however it all goes, I really do not know, and the annoying nature of this place does tend to have me looking both directions at the same time, however that might be possible.
Sounds like it's all very complicated in your mind. Also sounds like you might try to use fire to water plants.