(01-14-2013, 02:33 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Understand the distinction is "body of light" (5D) vs lighter body (compared to 3D) The 4D mind does not permit manifestation of a body of light.

(01-17-2013, 02:58 PM)Oceania Wrote: have you had a lot of phenomena happen in a certain spot and then nada after you left?

(01-18-2013, 12:18 PM)untilbeyond Wrote: Please check out:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13581.0

(01-18-2013, 09:36 PM)Cyan Wrote: Not a fan of cassiopaea

(01-18-2013, 12:18 PM)untilbeyond Wrote:

(01-14-2013, 02:33 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Understand the distinction is "body of light" (5D) vs lighter body (compared to 3D) The 4D mind does not permit manifestation of a body of light.

Please check out:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13581.0

(01-19-2013, 12:42 AM)zenmaster Wrote:

(01-18-2013, 12:18 PM)untilbeyond Wrote:

(01-14-2013, 02:33 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Understand the distinction is "body of light" (5D) vs lighter body (compared to 3D) The 4D mind does not permit manifestation of a body of light.

Please check out:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13581.0

negatively influenced.

(01-19-2013, 12:52 PM)untilbeyond Wrote: I suggest trying one of the non-channelled books. Discernment is not
so strenuous with non-channelled material.

"Secret History of the World" is devoid of STS influence.

Personally, I rate the accuracy of the five Ra books at 67%. Don Elkins is the one who was negatively influenced by STS entities from elsewhere. He committed suicide. I rate the C channelling at 83%. That's my intuition. Not asking you to agree.

By the late '90s, there was 15 years to digest content from the five books. The questions reflect the pondering associated with having read the early content. That's why it's so helpful.

There are some controversial points in the C channelling. For example, it's been explained that 4D STS bodies don't generate orgasm energy. It doesn't mean they don't like orgasm energy. They just can't generate it within their own physiology.

That's what connects us them: Their interest in harvesting our orgasms.

During orgasm the body releases something that can be stored and transported within the 4D STS infrastructure. Tantra, given the emphasis on circulating sexual energy, is probably not conducive to this process. Regular bunny sex would yield more, and masturbation would be most effective.

We use animals for food. We generate something precious. That energy has value on negative 4D.

We regard sex as something to do. It can also be seen as something being done to us.

Learning to hold energy recycle it, and build it up is part of Taoism and other disciplines. It's also difficult, particularly for those with a strong libido. The channelling about 4D STS bodies using us for the purpose of stockpiling orgasm energy explains one reason why this is difficult.

Doesn't this make any sense? Or do you think I'm getting fooled by the negatives?

(01-19-2013, 11:53 AM)Cyan Wrote: Was a member of QFS as a child and read most of the work, but stopped somewhere in the very very late wave series after it go to the autobigraphical not very interesting sections (compared to what I was going through at that time).

QFS would be the school LK founded. Hanging around there and reading up on what they do and did. I am thoroughly unimpressed and think they are almost a classical case of the "bad side" of cult mentality and relatively harmful.

Some of their research is good, some of it is bad, and all if requires discernment, like with any other material.

Personally think they are negatively oriented but dont care enough to go in and re-check after 10 years. They were when I was there.

Quote:26.36 Questioner: Then I am assuming all of the UFO groups who were getting telepathic contact from the Confederation were, shall we say, high-priority targets for the Orion crusaders, and I would assume that a large percentage of them were, shall we say, had their information polluted then. Can you tell me, do you have any idea what percentage of these groups were heavily polluted by the Orion information and if any of them were able to remain totally— purely a Confederation channel?

Ra: I am Ra. To give you this information would be to infringe upon the free will or confusion of some living. We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences. It is the importance placed upon it.

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness.

Categories: Law of One, Not Answered: Law of Confusion

37.4 Questioner: I have been very hesitant to ask certain questions for fear that they would be regarded, as I regard them, as questions of unimportance or too great a specificity and thereby reduce our contact with you. In order to disseminate some of the information that I consider to be of extreme importance; that is, the non-transient type of information, information having to do with the evolution of mind, body, and spirit, it seems almost necessary in our society to include information that is of little value simply because that’s how our… our society works and… how the system of distribution appraises that which is offered for distribution. Could you comm— Will… will you comment on this problem that I have?

Ra: I am Ra. We comment as follows: It is quite precisely correct that the level and purity of this contact is dependent upon the level and purity of information sought. Thusly, the continued requests for specific information from this particular source is deleterious to the substance of your purpose. Moreover, as we scanned your mind to grasp your situation as regards the typescript of some of our words, we found that you had been criticized for the type of language construction used to convey data. Due to our orientation with regard to data, even the most specifically answered question would be worded by our group in such a way as to maximize the accuracy of the nuances of the answer. This, however, mitigates against what your critic desires in the way of simple, lucid prose. More than this we cannot say. These are our observations of your situation. What you wish to do is completely your decision and we remain at your service in whatever way we may be without breaking the Way of Confusion.

Category: Ra Contact

62.23 Questioner: Isn’t this unusual that a fifth-density entity then would bother to do this rather than sending a fourth-density servant, shall I say?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Nearly all positive channels and groups may be lessened in their positivity or rendered quite useless by what we may call the temptations offered by the fourth-density negative thought-forms. They may suggest many distortions towards specific information, towards the aggrandizement of the self, towards the flowering of the organization in some political, social, or fiscal way.

These distortions remove the focus from the One Infinite Source of love and light of which we are all messengers, humble and knowing that we, of ourselves, are but the tiniest portion of the Creator, a small part of a magnificent entirety of infinite intelligence.

(01-19-2013, 01:25 PM)anagogy Wrote:

(01-19-2013, 11:53 AM)Cyan Wrote: Was a member of QFS as a child and read most of the work, but stopped somewhere in the very very late wave series after it go to the autobigraphical not very interesting sections (compared to what I was going through at that time).

QFS would be the school LK founded. Hanging around there and reading up on what they do and did. I am thoroughly unimpressed and think they are almost a classical case of the "bad side" of cult mentality and relatively harmful.

Some of their research is good, some of it is bad, and all if requires discernment, like with any other material.

Personally think they are negatively oriented but dont care enough to go in and re-check after 10 years. They were when I was there.

My thoughts exactly Cyan.

Negative material is almost never disseminated as pure falsehood. It would not be palatable to the spiritual stomachs of those who ingest it otherwise. Most people would instantly recognize it for what it was. As such, the material contains some truth and useful information but it has become predominantly and subtly negative over the years.

This is coming from someone who followed their material quite closely for many years. The negativity has become very apparent to me. One need only peruse their forum for a while to feel the negativity inherent in their interactions. Questioning their conclusions has become heresy over there. There is little freedom for exploration or expression, despite advertising otherwise. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Lets not forget what Ra said about concessions towards and the importance placed upon specific information which I see a LOT of in the Cassiopaean channeling:

Quote:26.36 Questioner: Then I am assuming all of the UFO groups who were getting telepathic contact from the Confederation were, shall we say, high-priority targets for the Orion crusaders, and I would assume that a large percentage of them were, shall we say, had their information polluted then. Can you tell me, do you have any idea what percentage of these groups were heavily polluted by the Orion information and if any of them were able to remain totally— purely a Confederation channel?

Ra: I am Ra. To give you this information would be to infringe upon the free will or confusion of some living. We can only ask each group to consider the relative effect of philosophy and your so-called specific information. It is not the specificity of the information which attracts negative influences. It is the importance placed upon it.

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to beingness.

Categories: Law of One, Not Answered: Law of Confusion

37.4 Questioner: I have been very hesitant to ask certain questions for fear that they would be regarded, as I regard them, as questions of unimportance or too great a specificity and thereby reduce our contact with you. In order to disseminate some of the information that I consider to be of extreme importance; that is, the non-transient type of information, information having to do with the evolution of mind, body, and spirit, it seems almost necessary in our society to include information that is of little value simply because that’s how our… our society works and… how the system of distribution appraises that which is offered for distribution. Could you comm— Will… will you comment on this problem that I have?

Ra: I am Ra. We comment as follows: It is quite precisely correct that the level and purity of this contact is dependent upon the level and purity of information sought. Thusly, the continued requests for specific information from this particular source is deleterious to the substance of your purpose. Moreover, as we scanned your mind to grasp your situation as regards the typescript of some of our words, we found that you had been criticized for the type of language construction used to convey data. Due to our orientation with regard to data, even the most specifically answered question would be worded by our group in such a way as to maximize the accuracy of the nuances of the answer. This, however, mitigates against what your critic desires in the way of simple, lucid prose. More than this we cannot say. These are our observations of your situation. What you wish to do is completely your decision and we remain at your service in whatever way we may be without breaking the Way of Confusion.

Category: Ra Contact

62.23 Questioner: Isn’t this unusual that a fifth-density entity then would bother to do this rather than sending a fourth-density servant, shall I say?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Nearly all positive channels and groups may be lessened in their positivity or rendered quite useless by what we may call the temptations offered by the fourth-density negative thought-forms. They may suggest many distortions towards specific information, towards the aggrandizement of the self, towards the flowering of the organization in some political, social, or fiscal way.

These distortions remove the focus from the One Infinite Source of love and light of which we are all messengers, humble and knowing that we, of ourselves, are but the tiniest portion of the Creator, a small part of a magnificent entirety of infinite intelligence.

(01-19-2013, 01:37 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: When you're 4D, do you have access to 5D wisdom, just that you choose not to "peek" so to speak? Without the veil, you have access to complete knowing, correct?

(01-19-2013, 02:01 PM)untilbeyond Wrote: Has anyone here read anything by Michael Topper?

(01-19-2013, 07:30 PM)Parsons Wrote: I will read some of this material from Cassiopeia. I realize there are negative entities in that region. I does not not necessarily mean they are all negative in the area. It is in fact bigoted to think they are all negative in that region. Can you image how citizens of Iraq or Afghanistan might judge every US citizen to be 'bad' based on the actions of the CIA and military?

However, I will read this material with a grain of salt, as I would any material. I will make my own judgement of the message, rather than the messenger(s).

(01-19-2013, 08:33 PM)anagogy Wrote: You just have to utilize some discernment.