(04-06-2013, 12:29 PM)Ruth Wrote: I don't see jealousy as necessarily being a desire to control. Rather, as I said above, I see it as a sadness of separation. The loss of part of yourself with whom you long to be reunited.

(04-06-2013, 12:29 PM)Meerie Wrote: here referring to the nine archetypes... does anyone familiar with the archetypes know which ones he is referring to?

(04-06-2013, 12:29 PM)Meerie Wrote: they could also represent a planet each, since we have 9 planets in our solar system:
http://nineplanets.org/planetorder.JPG
and the planets are also linked to archetypes (I believe even Ra said this)
79.15
Questioner: I will guess that those nine were three of mind, three of body, and three of spirit. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

here referring to the nine archetypes... does anyone familiar with the archetypes know which ones he is referring to?

Quote:74.4 Questioner: In a previous session there was a question on the archetypical mind that was not fully answered. I would like to continue with the answer to that question. Could you please continue with that, or will it be necessary for me to read the entire question over again?

Ra: I am Ra. As a general practice it is well to vibrate the query at the same space/time as the answer is desired. However, in this case it is acceptable to us that a note be inserted at this point in your recording of these sound vibratory complexes referring to the location of the query in previous workings.*

The query, though thoughtful, is in some degree falling short of the realization of the nature of the archetypical mind. We may not teach/learn for any other to the extent that we become learn/teachers. Therefore, we shall make some general notations upon this interesting subject and allow the questioner to consider and further refine any queries.

The archetypical mind may be defined as that mind which is peculiar to the Logos of this planetary sphere. Thusly unlike the great cosmic all-mind, it contains the material which it pleased the Logos to offer as refinements to the great cosmic beingness. The archetypical mind, then, is that which contains all facets which may affect mind or experience.

The Magician was named as a significant archetype. However, it was not recognized that this portion of the archetypical mind represents not a portion of the deep subconscious but the conscious mind and more especially the will. The archetype called by some the High Priestess, then, is the corresponding intuitive or subconscious faculty.

Let us observe the entity as it is in relationship to the archetypical mind. You may consider the possibilities of utilizing the correspondences between the mind/body/spirit in microcosm and the archetypical mind/body/spirit closely approaching the Creator. For instance, in your ritual performed to purify this place you use the term “Ve Geburah.” It is a correct assumption that this is a portion or aspect of the One Infinite Creator. However, there are various correspondences with the archetypical mind which may be more and more refined by the adept. “Ve Geburah” is the correspondence of Michael, of Mars, of the positive, of maleness. “Ve Gedulah” has correspondences to Jupiter, to femaleness, to the negative, to that portion of the Tree of Life concerned with Auriel.

We could go forward with more and more refinements of these two entries into the archetypical mind. We could discuss color correspondences, relationships with other archetypes, and so forth. This is the work of the adept, not the teach/learner. We may only suggest that there are systems of study which may address themselves to the aspects of the archetypical mind and it is well to choose one and study carefully. It is more nearly well if the adept go beyond whatever has been written and make such correspondences that the archetype can be called upon at will.

(04-06-2013, 11:53 AM)Meerie Wrote: Who does CH refer to?
I read a bit on the session you mentioned but they don't seem to explain it?

Meerie Wrote:By the way googling council of nine at lawofone.info, I found other hits, mentioning that there had been 9 archetypes (prior to the veiling?) - could it be that each of the 9 members of the council represent an archetype?

Ra, 91.18 Wrote:Questioner: I assume, then, that twenty-two is the greatest number of archetypes. I also ask is it the minimum number presently in use by any Logos to Ra’s knowledge?

Ra: I am Ra. The fewest are the two systems of five which are completing the cycles or densities of experience.

(04-06-2013, 12:29 PM)Meerie Wrote: they could also represent a planet each, since we have 9 planets in our solar system:
http://nineplanets.org/planetorder.JPG
and the planets are also linked to archetypes (I believe even Ra said this)
79.15
Questioner: I will guess that those nine were three of mind, three of body, and three of spirit. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

here referring to the nine archetypes... does anyone familiar with the archetypes know which ones he is referring to?

Ra 78.32 Wrote:Questioner: Is there any relationship between the archetypes and the planets of our solar system?

Ra: I am Ra. This is not a simple query. Properly, the archetypes have some relationship to the planets. However, this relationship is not one which can be expressed in your language. This, however, has not halted those among your people who have become adepts from attempting to name and describe these relationships. To most purely understand, if we may use this misnomer, the archetypes it is well to view the concepts which make up each archetype and reserve the study of planets and other correspondences for meditation.

(04-07-2013, 02:47 AM)Ankh Wrote: Those Archetypes were the first ones, but they are not in "use" anymore, as those mind/body/spirits who were following this blueprint are no longer with us in this octave, but are with the Creator.

(04-07-2013, 05:42 AM)Meerie Wrote: I was wondering why Ra refers to Ve Gedulah as pertaining to Jupiter...

(04-07-2013, 10:02 AM)Confused Wrote:

(04-07-2013, 02:47 AM)Ankh Wrote: Those Archetypes were the first ones, but they are not in "use" anymore, as those mind/body/spirits who were following this blueprint are no longer with us in this octave, but are with the Creator.

Hi, Ankh, do you have idea as to why they are not in use anymore? Any particular thing that happened as part of the evolutionary process? The archetypal concepts are difficult for me to get my head around. You do a great job of explaining well. Thanks, Ankh.

(04-07-2013, 10:16 AM)Meerie Wrote:

(04-07-2013, 10:02 AM)Confused Wrote:

(04-07-2013, 02:47 AM)Ankh Wrote: Those Archetypes were the first ones, but they are not in "use" anymore, as those mind/body/spirits who were following this blueprint are no longer with us in this octave, but are with the Creator.

Hi, Ankh, do you have idea as to why they are not in use anymore? Any particular thing that happened as part of the evolutionary process? The archetypal concepts are difficult for me to get my head around. You do a great job of explaining well. Thanks, Ankh.

I am not Ankh, but since you guys have gone to great lengths to look up all those Ra quotes for me, I try to do likewise now..

I think the answer lies in 79.13 and 79.14. The last one goes like this: Questioner: Thank you. Prior to the experiment to extend the first distortion how many archetypes were there at that time?
Ra: I am Ra. There were nine.

it has to do with that the experiment was simpler then? before the first distortion which is that one of free will.
It makes sense that if there was no free will, that the possibilities of entities incarnating would be limited?
therefore no need for so many archetypes?
Please, any of the Ra-savants, correct me if I am wrong

(04-07-2013, 05:42 AM)Meerie Wrote: I was wondering why Ra refers to Ve Gedulah as pertaining to Jupiter (which is male) and not to Venus? (referring to Confused's quote 74.4
)
since they state of it as femaleness.
http://hermetic.com/osiris/nbrp.htm
in this link they refer to Gedulah as water, and left shoulder, both are traditionally feminine (left side is the feminine side).

(04-07-2013, 10:02 AM)Confused Wrote:

(04-07-2013, 02:47 AM)Ankh Wrote: Those Archetypes were the first ones, but they are not in "use" anymore, as those mind/body/spirits who were following this blueprint are no longer with us in this octave, but are with the Creator.

Hi, Ankh, do you have idea as to why they are not in use anymore? Any particular thing that happened as part of the evolutionary process? The archetypal concepts are difficult for me to get my head around. You do a great job of explaining well. Thanks, Ankh.

Confused Wrote:How nice it would be to once again channel Ra?!

(04-07-2013, 12:52 PM)Ankh Wrote:

Confused Wrote:How nice it would be to once again channel Ra?!

HMPF..... #¤&"#¤TI=EIWRI....

*sigh*

(04-07-2013, 12:59 PM)Meerie Wrote: Lol! the channel seems to be a bit unclear, maybe some fine tuning would be necessary in order to establish the narrow-band frequency required?

( I suppose EIWRI could be roughly translated as "I am Ra"... and then you seem to have lost the connection )

(04-07-2013, 12:52 PM)Ankh Wrote: HMPF..... #¤&"#¤TI=EIWRI....

(04-07-2013, 03:54 PM)Meerie Wrote: Is anyone here familiar with the Qabalah?

(04-08-2013, 01:00 AM)Confused Wrote:

(04-07-2013, 03:54 PM)Meerie Wrote: Is anyone here familiar with the Qabalah?

Quote:80.11 Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

Quote:33.10 Questioner: I will ask you if you are familiar with the motion picture called The Ninth Configuration. Are you familiar with this?

Ra: I am Ra. We scan your mind complex and see this configuration called The Ninth Configuration.

(04-09-2013, 07:18 AM)Xenos Wrote: Hope you all have a good day!

(04-09-2013, 07:18 AM)Xenos Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLkou8NvJo