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RE: Meditation - Jade - 08-22-2014

I've been meditating with my husband daily first thing in the morning for a couple months now, it is great for morale and bonding but he does crazy crazy breathing and arm movements when he's clearing his chakras so it's actually pretty distracting sometimes and I can get benefit from a second solo session. So yes it is advantageous in that it helps me learn how to tune out distractions more effectively. Tongue


RE: Meditation - Unbound - 08-22-2014

Aha I am like that too, deep breathing and waving limbs.


RE: Meditation - Dani - 08-25-2014

Meditating with someone can be advantageous, but that may depend on the person.


RE: Meditation - Dani - 09-24-2014

Meditation was needed to relieve aching from a stressful day as I've been caring for a family member who has Alzheimer's disease.
I was so tired that I couldn't move.
Hooray for meditation!


RE: Meditation - Dani - 01-27-2015

2015 is the year when I'll be here in different ways than before. I'm awake. I'm alive. I'm here.
Thank you for your support, everyone. <3 :-)


RE: Meditation - Ankh - 01-27-2015

2015 does seem very promising for me too!! Smile


RE: Meditation - AnthroHeart - 01-27-2015

2015 will be both as busy and restful as ever.


RE: Meditation - Dani - 02-02-2015

(01-27-2015, 06:57 AM)Ankh Wrote: 2015 does seem very promising for me too!! Smile

How so? :-)


RE: Meditation - Dani - 02-02-2015

(01-27-2015, 11:21 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: 2015 will be both as busy and restful as ever.

How so? :-)


RE: Meditation - AnthroHeart - 02-02-2015

(02-02-2015, 07:51 AM)Dani Wrote:
(01-27-2015, 11:21 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: 2015 will be both as busy and restful as ever.

How so? :-)

Because my years are the same always, except 2012 and 2013 were different. But most of my life has been the same. I don't expect it to change.


RE: Meditation - Dani - 05-04-2015

(06-03-2014, 10:48 PM)Regulus Wrote: Almost done with that story I had intended to share with you, Dani. I’ll post it on this Meditation thread of yours when it’s complete—just a little longer for me to solidify it


-Regulus

Okay. Smile 


RE: Meditation - Dani - 05-04-2015

(02-02-2015, 10:54 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote:
(02-02-2015, 07:51 AM)Dani Wrote:
(01-27-2015, 11:21 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: 2015 will be both as busy and restful as ever.

How so? :-)

Because my years are the same always, except 2012 and 2013 were different. But most of my life has been the same. I don't expect it to change.


I hope that all of you are having a nice year so far. Smile 

Things have been improving in some ways. For example, I am employed through my family's business and travel with my sister driving. 

Unfortunately, there are still some issues that I encounter such as occasional depersonalization or an overwhelming lack of awareness or feeling. 

This usually comes with a lot of drainage or blockage of cerebrospinal fluid. 

Physical exertion and a lot of stimulation or stress takes an enormous amount of effort and pulls an incredible amount of energy from me, which is becoming more of an issue now despite the fact that exercise used to be easier and I could "filter out" stress by not hearing it through a lack of awareness over the past few years. 


Meditation has been helpful most of the time instead of causing seizures or much pain, which is fortunate. BigSmile 
However, because of headaches and issues with my body and mind, this life will always have increasing struggles. 

As always, I'm concerned about health issues that I encounter. 
Although I'm facing this alone in a physical sense, I'm very grateful for the support I've had here. 

As I look back on those who have commented here, I'm happy to have had people who took time out of their lives to help me however they could.
Thank you, everyone. BigSmile <3


RE: Meditation - Dani - 10-07-2015

Hello. 

 I haven't been here for a while, but that doesn't mean that i don't care to speak with all of you. <3 

 I truly appreciate your support. C:

 Mostly, I've been okay. BigSmile
 I've had a lot of fun and have experienced a lot of positive growth this year. BigSmile 
 However, not every day is "perfect".
 
 I had a bad reaction to alcohol consumption on the 18th of September where I was unable to get up or talk and I was shaking for a long time.                 According to internet search results based on how that felt and happened, it could have been "low blood circulation to the brain".                                     On the 29th, I dealt with problems that seem to relate to the symptoms of TIAs (Transient Ischemic Attacks). According to a couple of people                  online, I could be dealing with POTS (something that affects the heart) and, possibly TIAs (mini-strokes).                                                                          I haven't had too many issues since then, which I'm happy about.

Thank you for your kindness, everyone. BigSmile <3


RE: Meditation - Jade - 10-07-2015

WB Dani, glad to see you are (mostly) well. Good luck figuring out the source of your ailments.


RE: Meditation - Dani - 10-12-2015

Thank you, Jade. Smile


RE: Meditation - Raz - 10-12-2015

Hey Dani! Thats such a cool synchronicity! You came to mind just ONE day ago and I was wondering how things where with you and here you are answering my unspoken request BigSmile Sending you some pink/green healing light to illuminate you and your path. Really good hearing from you <3


RE: Meditation - Dani - 02-18-2016

Hello, everyone.
I hope you're doing well. <3

There are some things that seem to be better than they have been in the past.
Still, other things fluctuate and linger.
All I can do is care for myself so that I may help others.

Someday, I hope I'll know how to truly handle the issues that affect each part of me.

Thank you for your support, everyone. <3
Please make the most of your days. Smile


RE: Meditation - Jade - 02-18-2016

Thanks for the update, Dani. Love and light to you.


RE: Meditation - Dandelionlight - 03-05-2016

(02-04-2014, 01:33 AM)Dani Wrote: Throughout my life, I've, personally, experienced problems with awareness; far too many to elaborate upon quickly. I believe that these problems have been caused by a VP shunt malfunction, which lead to seizures. There have been days when these seizures seemed to be unbearable. However, one day in particular from February or March of 2011 when I had a group of seizures that lasted around an hour and were more physically damaging than any other. Left untreated, I have dealt with crushing and burning sensations in my head, a shunt that has shifted terribly and continues to shift due to its comparison to my height, emotional insecurity and concern for the future. I have had some problems such as tingling and scalding pressure that has lead to seizures, even during meditation.
Today, during meditation at 11:00AM, I felt a tingling sensation in my head that nearly resembled static in mild seizures or the aftershock of seizures. Although I have been doing alright compared to times in the past, I still hold onto my concern for what happened to me in the past-especially on the day of the worst seizure to this day that I am aware of-and how meditation is affecting me. Sometimes, meditation burns my head or causes cerebro spinal fluid over drainage. However, today was so different! Could this mean that I'm getting better, maybe? Is there such a thing as "getting better" when I can tell that my brain has endured some sort of damage? Can meditation help me?...  Mon., Feb.3,2014 11:36PM
Hi Dani,

I might not know much, but it seems you do a lot of researches on your current issue already. May I ask if you have checked with a  neurologist or similar people about your current health issue? Through what you're trying to say, it doesn't seem like a healthy familial environment that you live in. I don't really understand why you have to hide your medical issues, but can you get help? Is there any limitation that you cannot or you already did extensive self-help already but the result is still the same?

Hope the best for you.


RE: Meditation - Dani - 03-30-2016

 Hello, Dandelionlight. 

 After trying to find ways to help this situation, I seem to be at a loss for words and directions. 

 I don't really know how I'm going to be able to take care of this situation. 
Where I live, having a lack of health insurance is an issue; without it, people are in a lot of financial trouble!
Because of this, I've been trying to figure out how to get health insurance...but I don't even know where to start. 

I've tried looking online since searching for other solutions outside of home isn't really possible for me. 
Trying to figure out what is going on with everything my family and I deal with is just a way to walk into a whirlwind of confusion. 

All of us need health insurance whether we have anything physically troubling or not. 
Even with that, it's just a path to more expenses and stressful days. 

Despite that, we need to change how we're handling our situations.

That's why I've been trying to figure out how to "solve" my personal situation. 
There are many things about my body that are troubling and can create increased difficulty and complications quickly, which don't always resolve shortly after they occur. 

That's no way to have even the slightest stability. 
In order to truly be able to support the people around me to the best of my ability, I need to find some sort of stability. 

Still, that comes at many prices, including increased stress. 

This isn't something I talk about to have other people "solve" for me-I'm just wondering if anyone can relate to my experiences or if I can relate to theirs. 


RE: Meditation - Dani - 03-30-2016

Thank you for your support, everyone. <3


RE: Meditation - Jade - 03-30-2016

Hi Dani, it's something we were just talking about in the other thread - have you tried to change your diet? Ra says it's a key component to healing the self - by showing the self more respect by taking care to pay attention to what we eat. It might be a relatively easy step that's in your control to fix.

The fact is, Ra didn't even want Carla going to a real doctor. But, if any part of you believes you need it, then it's okay, because they can definitely help. If I were you, I would invest my energy in learning self-healing instead of investing your energy in trying to find health insurance, and then investing more energy each month to pay for it. For what it's worth, I live in the US, and I haven't had insurance for 11 years now (save for a couple months at a job here or there). I had an emergency appendectomy in that time and didn't have to pay for anything, either. So not having health insurance isn't the huge catastrophe many would like you to believe that it is. In fact, it's way more important to actually consciously use/acknowledge catalyst, than to go to a modern doctor who is most likely just going to suppress your symptoms.

Just some food for thought.


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RE: Meditation - anagogy - 03-30-2016

(03-30-2016, 09:31 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: The fact is, Ra didn't even want Carla going to a real doctor.

Really? What makes you draw that conclusion? I don't recall anything of that nature in the Ra material. But perhaps I just missed it.

edit: not being contrarian here -- genuinely wondering if you knew something I didn't.


________ - GentleWanderer - 03-30-2016

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RE: Meditation - anagogy - 03-30-2016

(03-30-2016, 04:23 PM)GentleWanderer Wrote: It's true that in our society we are in general too much dependant on medical doctors but in some cases going to a doctor can be the best thing to do.

I think a combination of modern and alternative medicine approaches yields the best results.  Care for the self should proceed forth beginning with the most subtle levels and proceed outwards to the more gross levels of being.  Start with our minds and work our way out to the bodies, excluding emergency situations of course where there is no time for refined care. 


RE: Meditation - Jade - 03-31-2016

(03-30-2016, 04:15 PM)anagogy Wrote:
(03-30-2016, 09:31 AM)Bring4th_Jade Wrote: The fact is, Ra didn't even want Carla going to a real doctor.

Really?  What makes you draw that conclusion?  I don't recall anything of that nature in the Ra material.  But perhaps I just missed it.

edit: not being contrarian here -- genuinely wondering if you knew something I didn't.

It's a common refrain, though not said obviously. Let me see if I can gather the quotes I'm thinking of. Mostly Ra suggests Bob for healing, but Ra does suggest traditional medical healers a few times at Don's pressing, when it had gotten to the point where Carla had already decided that nothing else would help her. But, Ra says "diet, diet, diet" quite a bit to her, too, and mostly points out her distortions are caused by a blocked indigo making her feel unworthy.

Here's Ra's "general gist" of how they feel about allopathic doctors: They CAN be healers, but most of our current system is about distraction and sleep and not true healing.

Quote:64.15 Questioner: Thank you. Ra mentioned the ones Stuart and Douglas in a recent session*. These are members of what we call our medical profession. What is the value, overall value, shall I say, of modern medical techniques in alleviating bodily distortions with respect to the purpose for these distortions and what we might call karma and other effects?

Ra: I am Ra. This query is convoluted. However, we shall make some observations in lieu of attempting one coherent answer, for that which is allopathic among your healing practices is somewhat two-sided.

Firstly, you must see the possibility/probability that each and every allopathic healer is in fact an healer. Within your cultural nexus this training is considered the appropriate means of perfecting the healing ability. In the most basic sense any allopathic healer may be seen to, perhaps, be one whose desire is service to others in alleviation of bodily complex and mental/emotional complex distortions so that the entity to be healed may experience further catalyst over a longer period of what you call the life. This is a great service to others when appropriate due to the accumulation of distortions toward wisdom and love which can be created through the use of the space/time continuum of your illusion.

In observing the allopathic concept of the body complex as the machine we may note the symptomology of a societal complex seemingly dedicated to the most intransigent desire for the distortions of distraction, anonymity, and sleep. This is the result rather than the cause of societal thinking upon your plane.

In turn this mechanical concept of the body complex has created the continuing proliferation of distortions towards what you would call ill-health due to the strong chemicals used to control and hide bodily distortions. There is a realization among many of your peoples that there are more efficacious systems of healing not excluding the allopathic but also including the many other avenues of healing.


Here Don asks "How can an entity heal their physical distortions?" and Ra answers, specifically noting Carla's distortions and how they could be alleviated with indigo work:

Quote:12.31 Questioner: Is there a best way for these entities to heal themselves of their physical ailments?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last complete question of this time/space.

The self-healing distortion is effected through realization of the intelligent infinity resting within. This is blocked in some way in those who are not perfectly balanced in bodily complexes. The blockage varies from entity to entity. It requires the conscious awareness of the spiritual nature of reality, if you will, and the corresponding pourings of this reality into the individual mind/body/spirit complex for healing to take place.

We will use this instrument as example. The portions of its ailment, as you call this distortion complex, that can be perfected in balance are due primarily to a blockage of the indigo-ray or pineal energy center. This center receives the intelligent energy from all sources lawful within the one Creation; that is, lawful in this third-density distortion or illusion. If there is no blockage, these energies pour or stream down into the mind/body/spirit complex perfecting moment by moment the individual’s body complex.

This instrument also experiences some distortion of the green-ray energy center which you may call the heart center. It is overly open due to an intensive desire distortion on the part of this mind/body/spirit complex towards service to others, or as you may call it, universal love. This entity, therefore, spends itself without regard to its reserves of mind/body/spirit complex distortion in regard to what you call strength or energy. This distortion is primarily due to the blockage of the indigo ray. As we have said before, the misapprehension distortion of the instrument responsible for this blockage is the basic orientation towards a belief in unworthiness. The unworthiness distortion blocks the free flow of intelligent energy.

The seventh or violet ray is unimpaired, this being not only an energy receptor but a sum total of the vibratory level of the individual. The other energy centers are also quite clear. The solution to healing in this case is action that puts into practice the peaceful understanding in humility distortion that the entity is one with the Creator, therefore perfected and not separate. In each case of what you would call ill health one or more of these energy centers is blocked. The intelligence of the mind/body/spirit complex needs then to be alerted either by the self as healer or by the catalyst of another healer, as we have said before.


Here is a good example. Don asks what they can do to help Carla. Ra gives all the metaphysical answers, and diet, and then mentions worst case scenario to contact Arthur Schoen (because Ra knew this is the information Don wanted) - which then, of course, Don gets obsessed with this magical doctor that Ra mentions and the magical medicine he can prescribe.

Quote:102.2 Questioner: Will Ra please tell us what caused the pain and cramping in the instrument’s stomach, and what could be done to heal it?

Ra: In order to observe the cause of physical distortions toward illness one must look to the energy center which is blocked. In this situation, the blockage being yellow-ray, the experience has had the characteristics of that region of the chemical body. The so-called lacuna in the wind-written armor of light and love was closed and not only repaired but much improved. However, the distortions energized during this momentary lapse from free energy flow are serious and shall be continuing for, in all possibility/probability vortices, some of your space/time, for a predisposition to spasticity in the transverse colon has been energized. There is also pre-existing weakness in pancreatic function, especially that linked with the hypothalamus. There is also the pre-existing damage to portions of the liver. These lacks or distortions manifest in that portion of the system directly proceeding from the jejunum. Further, there is some irritation closer to the duodenum which causes the instrument to fail in assimilating foodstuffs. This is an allopathically caused irritation.

The diet is of central import. We can go no further in observing the system of the entity as a full discussion of those distortions towards various weakness/strengths which contribute to the present difficulty begin with the lips and end with the anus. We may note that the instrument has remained centered upon the Creator at a percentage exceeding ninety. This is the key. Continue in thanksgiving and gratitude for all things.

There are stronger anti-spasmodic drugs which the one not known to this instrument, but known as Arthur, may aid by the offering. The recommendation to do this, being as it is that which does not retain or remove life and does further remove from the instrument its opportunities for study in this situation, needs must be withheld. We are not in a position to recommend treatment at this space/time beyond the watching of the types of foodstuffs ingested.

102.3 Questioner: I’m not quite sure I understood everything you said. Can you give me the last name of this Arthur, and where he is located?

Ra: I am Ra. We can.


Here Ra mentions that those who have previously cut into Carla did "less than adequate work" which has led to further distortions/pain:

Quote:94.3 Questioner: Is there anything that we can do that we are not doing to remedy this situation so that the instrument does not experience this pain, or as much of it?

Ra: I am Ra. There is little that can be done due to a complex of pre-existing distortions. The distortions are triple in the source.

There is the, shall we say, less than adequate work of your chirurgeons which allows for various distortions in the left wrist area.


Here Ra tentatively mentions to Carla to use an antibiotic, since she had already become susceptible to the infection, but with caveats.

Quote:Ra: As to the removal of the effects of the magical working, we may make two suggestions, one immediate and one general. Firstly, within the body of knowledge which those healers known among your peoples as medical doctors have is the use of harsh chemical substances which you call medicine. These substances almost invariably cause far more changes than are intended in the mind/body/spirit complex. However, in this instance the steroids or, alternately, the antibiotic family might be useful in the complete removal of the difficulty within which the working is still able to thrive. Of course, the allergies would persist after this course of medicine were ended, but the effects of the working would no longer come into play.


The one you call Jerome might well be of aid in this somewhat unorthodox medical situation. As allergies are quite misunderstood by your orthodox healers, it would be inappropriate to subject the instrument to the services of your medical doctors which find the amelioration of allergic effects to be connected with the intake of these same toxins in milder form. This, shall we say, treats, the symptom. However, the changes offered to the body complex are quite inadvisable. The allergy may be seen to be the rejection upon a deep level of the mind complex of the environment of the mind/body/spirit complex. Thus the allergy may be seen in its pure form as the mental/emotional distortion of the deeper self.


Here Ra says pretty clearly that it's Carla's choice over the next month whether or not she will choose to heal herself or decide if she needs the help of a doctor:

Quote:102.17 Questioner: Would Ra please estimate the length of time in our time periods for the probability of this problem, if we follow these curative measures, for the probability of this problem to continue in any extreme severity?

Ra: I am Ra. One of your moon’s revolutions has a good possibility/probability vortex of seeing either the worsening of the spastic condition so that surgery becomes indicated or the bettering of the situation so that the diet continues to be watched but the spasms be removed. The housing of the working is within the infection within the duodenum, the stomach, the jejunum, the ileum, the transverse colon, and portions of the liver. This shall be somewhat difficult to remove and constitutes perhaps the most efficient working to date. We may suggest, again, that the one known as Bob may be of aid. The one known as Stuart could, if it wished, discover the infection which is only marginally detectable but may prefer not to do so. In this case it would be well to request physical aid from an allopathic specialist such as that which has been mentioned.


Toward the end of the contact, and at their final initiation, Carla began to do indigo work. The impetus? She decided she wasn't going to take her prescribed pain medication, which triggered the attempts at self-healing.

Quote:103.4 Questioner: The instrument asks the question why she lost her joy in the recent past? Would Ra comment, please?

Ra: I am Ra. The instrument made a free-will decision not to address the physical catalyst causing great pain by means of the allopathically prescribed chemical compound which the instrument was sure would be efficacious due to its reliance upon the suggestions of Ra. Thus the catalyst was given in a more complete form. The outer service to others became nearly impossible, causing the entity to experience once again the choice of the martyr; that is, to put value in a fatal action and die or to put value on consciousness of the creation and of the One Creator and, thereby, live. The instrument, through will, chose the latter path. However, the mind and mental/emotional distortions did not give the support to this decision necessary to maintain a state of unity which this entity normally experiences and has experienced since its incarnation’s beginnings.

Since this catalyst has been accepted, the work begun to remove distortions blocking the indigo ray might well be continued apace.

103.5 Questioner: Could Ra recommend work appropriate for removing indigo-ray blockage?

Ra: I am Ra. We cannot recommend for the general situation for in each case the distortional vortex is unique. In this particular nexus, the more appropriate working is in the mental and mental/emotional powers of analysis and observation. When the strongest and least distorted complex is set in support, then the less strong portions of the complex shall be strengthened. This entity has long worked with this catalyst. However, this is the first occasion wherein the drugs to dull the pain that sharpens the catalyst have been refused.


This is for Don, Ra says that unless he uses the surgery as a component to metaphysical healing, that the surgery will not work:

Quote:106.15 Questioner: Would Ra recommend… Let me put it this way: Would Ra think that surgery in my case would be of any help?

Ra: I am Ra. We assume you speak of the colonic indisposition and its potential aid by your chirurgeons. Is this correct?

106.16 Questioner: Yes.

Ra: Again, I am Ra. Please blow across the face and heart of the instrument.

[This was done as directed.]

I am Ra. We shall continue. The atmosphere has been meticulously prepared. However, there are those elements which cause difficulty to the instrument, the neurasthenia of the right side of the face being added to other arthritically energized pain flares.

Such an operation would be of aid in the event that the entity chose this physical cleansing as an event which collaborated with changes in the mental, mental/emotional, and physical orientations of the entity. Without the latter choice, the distortion would recur.
Obviously Ra doesn't come out and say "Don't participate in your traditional medical system because it's f*****" but, in so many words, they kinda do. If I find any better/more supportive quotes I will add them, these are just the obvious hits I got from surgery, doctor, chirurgeon, etc.

I want to end this post with this quote, because it shows another layer to what Carla was dealing with. This is a key quote to me. Ra says that the group focusing too much on the instrument's condition is just as deleterious as not worrying about the instrument's condition. It was a delicate balance but I think Don erred on the side of putting Carla in the position of martyrdom, considering each session starting in the 40s began and ended with "How is the condition of the instrument?"/"What else can we do for the instrument?" 9 times out of 10 the answer was "I already told you."

Quote:60.5 Questioner: Will spreading the workings out over greater intervals of time so that we have more time between workings help?

Ra: I am Ra. This you have already done. It is not helpful to your group to become unbalanced by concern for one portion of the work above another. If this instrument is, in your judgment, capable and if the support group is functioning well, if all is harmonious and if the questions to be asked have been considered well, the working is well begun. To overly stress the condition of the instrument is as deleterious to the efficiency of this contact as the antithetical behavior was in your past.

The whole of the Law of One is about teaching healing of the self (and others) through faith and the indigo ray. To me, it's very obvious that Ra wanted Carla to learn to heal herself. I mean, this tenet here is a keystone philosophy in Ra's teachings:

Quote:Ra: It is not by example that the healer does the working. The working exists in and of itself. The healer is only the catalyst, much as this instrument has the catalysis necessary to provide the channel for our words, yet by example or exercise of any kind can take no thought for this working.

Here Ra is trying to connect the dots for Carla, saying that in just the same way that she channels intelligent infinity without telling it what to do to produce the words of Ra, she is just the same able to channel healing energy for herself.


RE: Meditation - anagogy - 03-31-2016

Quote:Ra: [...] Such an operation would be of aid in the event that the entity chose this physical cleansing as an event which collaborated with changes in the mental, mental/emotional, and physical orientations of the entity. Without the latter choice, the distortion would recur.

I find this one of the most interesting things they've said because it emphasizes that the outer world is merely a reflection of the inner one.  So someone who had undergone the appropriate inner transformation might have an "outer rationalization" of the inner healing so to speak, which could appear as a variety of things such as a surgical operation for example, or something of that sort, but in fact the operation was actually more like just a synchronous reflection rather than the "cause" per se of the healing -- something for the material world to cloak the intangible reality in a veil of tangible appearance.


RE: Meditation - Jade - 03-31-2016

Yeah, gotta keep that body involved in the m/b/s complex feedback loop-dance. If we didn't have the complementary physical manifestations, incarnation such as this would be meaningless.