(10-12-2012, 09:24 AM)Patrick Wrote: It looks like psychotherapists are going to make a fortune in 2013 with lightworkers.

Just kidding, but this forum will be very helpful to go through this period. We can help each others.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2011/2011_0219.aspx Q'uo Wrote:From our point of view, we would say that ascension in general means to the population of those not Christian, perhaps not on a particular religious path at all, the event tied in with the date of the Winter Solstice of 2012, or whenever a particular seeker considers that third density is over and the next density or Age of man has begun.

Now, what virtue is there in considering how to ascend while in the body? My friends, in terms of activity within the body, we do not find that this is a helpful concept for all people. The reason that we say this is that each of you won his or her way into the earth plane [at the time of] the harvest. Many there are who wished to have incarnations upon Planet Earth at this time, either to help raise the consciousness of Planet Earth with their love, or to do the work of third density in achieving a satisfactory balance between love and wisdom, love and power, or wisdom and power.

Consequently, having won your way into the physical, we find there is wisdom in choosing to stay with the incarnation until you have learned all you can and served all you are able and are truly ready to let go of third density and all of its gifts and challenges.

However, the one known as Y noted that the kind of ascension that she has seen discussed in the book The Masters of the Far East seems to be a lot like living in fourth density, and we find that the heart of the question concerning ascension while in the physical body is keyed to this realization.
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Your creation is made up of the way you choose to think about things, the way you choose to observe and perceive things. The striving of humanity in third density is to move beyond the limits of normal perception and open the doors to all that there is. Consequently, if you wish to ascend within the body, that is, the physical body, you shall wish to let your intuition bring to you the activities and the thoughts that will help you to achieve that. Consciousness, awareness, perception, is malleable and easily influenced by many things.

Quote:The key to this work is this: the consciousness that you share with all others who are self-aware is one. It is the consciousness of the Creator. It is the consciousness of complete and unconditional love. [It is] not love as known to the poets who speak of romance. [It is] not the love of brother for brother. [It is] not the love that is sentimentalized in valentines tied up with ribbons, gifted with pretty gems. This is a love that creates and destroys. This is a state of aliveness and endless potential.

Quote:We realize that this is one of the less comfortable or naturally obvious concepts having to do with the concept of densities. It is natural for a person to think that this same Earth upon which your feet make footsteps shall become fourth density and that on this same Earth, fourth density shall take place. However, we would suggest to you that it is much like wanting to take your physical body with you when you pass from physical life upon this planet and hoping to drag what this instrument would call this chemical distillery of a body into fourth density and attempt to lug it around when everyone else is dancing with a much lighter and electrically driven rather than chemically driven body.

(10-27-2012, 12:31 PM)Parsons Wrote: My Q'uo'te says ascend while *in* the body, not literally take the 3D body into full 4D.

Quote:I also find it facinating that Q'uo displays a clear bias in the above channeling towards living out your full incarnation instead of leaving early at what is commonly referred to as 'the ascension event' or as Ra referred to it "the gateway from intelligent energy to intelligent infinity opens regardless of circumstance on the striking of the hour."

(10-27-2012, 01:47 PM)Patrick Wrote: I believe Q'uo says this because wanting to escape from 3d may not be the most balanced of intention.

(08-22-2012, 01:07 AM)godwide_void Wrote: The incredible variety this planet presents in many areas is due to one purpose of this world which decrees that it be a central hub of activity whereby the brainstorming, sharing, refinement and emulation of ideas between countless beings will be effectuated following the period when the quarantine has been removed and cosmic-wide communication may take place freely. The tremendous interest in establishing such a "creativity marketplace" is directly correlated to the conjunction of the faculty of free will and, more significantly, the powerful veil which has held this planet in its grip but swiftly dwindles, and the tremendous exploration of possibility which this has given rise to. The experiences which have been produced upon this planet have resulted in an astonishing learning experience for the rest of Creation. Many, many, many entities have been and continue to be left mesmerized by what has transpired on this planet. Extreme penetration of the veil and elevated operation while still in the human incarnation is considered an amazing feat by those innumerable watching eyes of your cosmic family. Even some of the most evolved of entities have greatly furthered their wisdom simply by observing the happenings of this planet and the extent of the meandering done by entities guided through obscure wilderness by rampant free will.

(10-29-2012, 07:42 PM)Parsons Wrote: I can hardly wait...

(10-29-2012, 10:17 PM)Parsons Wrote: Anytime between now and December.

(10-31-2012, 06:46 AM)Parsons Wrote: If you seriously have plans to stay here in 3D, you will absolutely be able to stay in 3D if that is your final decision after the veil lifts while the gateway to intelligent infinity is open for all briefly as the clock strikes the hour.

(10-31-2012, 08:29 AM)Parsons Wrote: Anytime between Sep 22nd and Dec 21st (equinox and solstice).

(10-31-2012, 08:34 AM)Confused Wrote:

(10-31-2012, 08:29 AM)Parsons Wrote: Anytime between Sep 22nd and Dec 21st (equinox and solstice).

What exactly do you think might happen, Parsons? I am very curious to know what your opinion from your research/intuition is. I mean, do you have any idea as to the mechanics and the process of the Harvest?

(06-14-2012, 03:59 PM)godwide_void Wrote: The moment of the vibrational shift remains set and marked in the approximate moments preceding, during, and following the onset of the winter solstice period of this year. Consciousness will be the primary constituent in the transition which will emulate the termination of physicality as it is currently known in this density of experience. Though the engulfing will be a global affection, the individual perception of the experience will be unique to each observer and coincide with personal expectation and orientation however the "destination" in the general sense will remain the same excluding those who will need to repeat the 3rd Density cycle of experience.

The expiration of the physical vehicle will result in a semi-delayed substitution with the corresponding green-ray vehicle necessary for the maneuvering through the subsequent dimensional spectrum. The first moments of awareness following this existential shift will manifest experientially as the mental acknowledgement of the subsidization of the effects of the veil with the rush of recollection of data stemming from the rejoining of the subconscious and conscious aspects of the mind complex into a whole unit again.

The conjunction of the conscious aspect of the mind complex with the subconscious will result in remembrance of one's nature, prior incarnations and experiences, and most prominently the linking to what is typically considered the collective unconscious or universal mind being essentially a reunion of a portion of the One Infinite Creator to the extent available to the 4th Density spectrum of creation with the conscious mind complex containing temporal identity and existential distortions carried over from the recent incarnation including personality and physical appearance, although elements of the personality and appearance may be drastically modified through use of the mind complex having undergone the recent restoration, reactivation, and rejuvenation of its presently dormant but innate capabilities.

(07-04-2012, 12:20 PM)godwide_void Wrote:

(07-02-2012, 09:25 PM)Parsons Wrote: What will happen to our advanced 2D/chemical vehicles after the shift this December? Will we be inhabiting the appropriate density vehicle for 4D consciousness after that? Will these vehicles be upgraded to accommodate? And what will happen to the physical vehicles for the ones that are going to be repeating 3D?

The physical vehicle which the 3D human consciousness currently inhabits will be transmuted into the vessel which is most appropriately equipped to handle the less denser 4D spectrum of experience. You are correct in that it will be an upgrade rather than a new outfitting. For those beings who will be required to remain 3D participants, their physical vehicles will remain largely unmodified or affected as they will continue to be needed to sustain further 3D experience in the new arena which they will reside in.

(10-31-2012, 09:39 AM)Parsons Wrote:

(07-04-2012, 12:20 PM)godwide_void Wrote: [quote='Parsons' pid='90387' dateline='1341278742']
What will happen to our advanced 2D/chemical vehicles after the shift this December? Will we be inhabiting the appropriate density vehicle for 4D consciousness after that? Will these vehicles be upgraded to accommodate? And what will happen to the physical vehicles for the ones that are going to be repeating 3D?

The physical vehicle which the 3D human consciousness currently inhabits will be transmuted into the vessel which is most appropriately equipped to handle the less denser 4D spectrum of experience.

(10-31-2012, 09:53 AM)zenmaster Wrote: ...and no, that's not a question of semantics.

(10-31-2012, 11:27 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(10-31-2012, 09:53 AM)zenmaster Wrote: ...and no, that's not a question of semantics.

Meaning that this information you provided is absolute ? Or is it that it's absolutely clear to you?

(10-31-2012, 01:01 PM)zenmaster Wrote: ...
First, one can simply bother to look at the material. It's mentioned numerous times.
Also, why do you think the realms are referred to as densities? Sometimes you have to question nonsense.