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RE: Meditation - AnthroHeart - 03-23-2014
In my latest meditation, which I've been doing with eyes open, I've gotten in touch with the Light Being that will greet me after I die. It's kept a steady stream of love on my heart, and with much effort my heart chakra is beginning to open. I feel a softer love about me, like it's working. I also get a stream in my 3rd eye, keeping 3rd eye and heart in balance. This tells me the being is a 6D entity. It feels good this feeling of love, and I'm working to increase it. Thing is I feel energized, and hard to go to sleep.
RE: Meditation - Dani - 03-25-2014
Gemini Wolf: I'm sorry to hear that sleeping is difficult for you, but I'm also happy for you.
It's nice to hear that you're feeling differently and moving your mind to a positive direction. <3
I just discovered why emotion was such a hard thing to control: the front of the brain controls emotion-that's where my shunt is located, so that's where the majority of the pressure would have been.
Although I have a deep love for studying the mind and body, I still have a lot of research to do.
My shunt has been bothering me somewhat and giving me some headaches-at my forehead and not-but I'm feeling better than I was before.
I can hear and see clearly...and I can BREATHE DEEPLY.
One problem is balance; others are anxiety and exhaustion. I can't tell why I'm dealing with those. Also, my shunt is still shifting and is somewhat tight against my collarbone-even more that against my head. Not sleeping or eating for a long time is frightening because that feels kind of painful.
Today, I didn't eat for a very long time because I was out with my family while we looked at a couple of kittens. Now, we have a Blue Russian/Tabby kitten, who is dark and will most likely have some stripes.
RE: Meditation - Dani - 03-28-2014
http://jeffkobermeditation.com/2013/10/the-static-in-your-head-october-28-2013/
RE: Meditation - AnthroHeart - 03-28-2014
(03-28-2014, 02:06 AM)Dani Wrote: http://jeffkobermeditation.com/2013/10/the-static-in-your-head-october-28-2013/
I liked "happiness–indeed life itself–is available to us only in the moment. All we have to do is to choose it, again and again and again and again."
RE: Meditation - Dani - 04-02-2014
Gemini Wolf wrote: I liked "happiness–indeed life itself–is available to us only in the moment. All we have to do is to choose it, again and again and again and again."
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For some, "choosing" happiness is easier said than done, but still possible; many need great assistance to reach such a goal.
Exercise is good-then, why does it hurt? The "normal" aches are expected, but my head concerns me.
My father is dealing with health issues and considering exercise, but he'll wait until further results come.
I hope that some "repairs" can be made for this family. <3
RE: Meditation - AnthroHeart - 04-02-2014
Indeed choosing happiness is difficult. For me, it is more common to feel love. Though I do get moments of excitement for no particular reason. Though usually it's when I'm in a new situation I feel the excitement. But not always. Oh, and sleeping is not difficult for me. I take a couple of melatonin gummies before bedtime, and they help me sleep.
I wish you well with you and your family.
I'm wondering if meditation can help our polarity.
RE: Meditation - Hotsizzle77 - 04-03-2014
Today I meditated outside sitting on a rock with an overview of a beautiful lake. I felt the warm wind and the sun gazing down. Soon enough I was in a deep meditative stance.
I thought about the confederation, as I closed my eyes the color of the sun went from a yellow to red for a few minutes.
I said to myself "red ray chakra"? I am indeed grounded to the earth I feel that to be true.
Continued to meditate.
I suddenly heard a flock of geese sort of "singing" and I had a quick thought that maybe that was a sign of the confederation then I thought nahhhh.
When I opened my eyes after completing the meditation session, I looked at the clouds and said, if the confederation heard my calling send me a sign now!
That's when I realized the geese had stopped "singing" and swam away.
The thought I had of red ray, earth itself, then to hear geese singing and dissapearing soon as I realized I was done meditating? It was a great feeling of joy. Free will is a beautiful thing!
RE: Meditation - Dani - 04-04-2014
(04-02-2014, 11:37 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Indeed choosing happiness is difficult. For me, it is more common to feel love. Though I do get moments of excitement for no particular reason. Though usually it's when I'm in a new situation I feel the excitement. But not always. Oh, and sleeping is not difficult for me. I take a couple of melatonin gummies before bedtime, and they help me sleep.
I wish you well with you and your family.
I'm wondering if meditation can help our polarity.
It's nice that it's common for you to feel love, Gemini Wolf.
It's common for many to feel excitement in new situations, especially in new places. Being excited for no reason in a familiar environment isn't bad as long as that excitement isn't anxiety. I'm glad that sleeping isn't difficult for you. I have never taken melatonin gummies. I'm not sure how melatonin affects the body because I, honestly, hadn't heard of it much until now; I guess it helps with sleeping?
Thank you for your kindness.
I wish you well with your life's journey as well. Indeed, physically, emotionally and spiritually, meditation is very helpful. Although I've had trouble caused by meditation in the past, yesterday was more successful with only some burning sensations through my shunt and in various but specific places around my head during meditation, following some exercise and yoga. Apparently, spending some time alone while doing these things took about two hours, to my surprise. Afterward, I noticed that my cognition was slightly and briefly "enhanced" in comparison to how my thinking processes normally function, as though my mind had time to "breathe".
I hope that meditation can help you.
@HotSizzle77: Meditation can be so peaceful.
There have been times that it has caused me to convulse for extended periods of time, eventually causing extreme exhaustion. Although the process of enduring convulsions is tiring, the inevitable resting in the end once fear is no longer present is quite relaxing. Yesterday, during meditation that followed some exercise and yoga, I felt nearly this relaxed. The way that you have described your environment during meditation seems to be the "perfect" place for meditation, almost like the tranquility of living "inside" the pages of a book.
What is the confederation?...
RE: Meditation - Dani - 04-24-2014
During a very belated celebration of the 21st birthday of myself and my twin sister, I mistakenly told some of my family about traumatic experiences that happened years ago. Surprisingly, they seem to have taken that information as well as they can. I wish that I knew all of what I said and hadn't stumbled on words when I could scarcely tell what I was saying.
I guess drinking alcohol-even small amounts-while having even minor shunt problems and keeping depression inside isn't wise.
At least the music at Flora-Bama was enjoyable. It was nice to see so many people having a good time. I love to see my family.
RE: Meditation - sunnysideup - 04-24-2014
Congratulations on your 21st birthday, Dani.
RE: Meditation - Hotsizzle77 - 04-24-2014
Happy birthday Dani!
RE: Meditation - AnthroHeart - 04-25-2014
Yes, happy belated birthday.
RE: Meditation - Dani - 04-27-2014
@ sunnysideup, Hotsizzle77&GeminiWolf: Thank you very much.
^_^
RE: Meditation - Dani - 05-01-2014
After a long time of experiencing symptoms that resemble diabetes, my blood glucose monitor failed to test properly due to the fact that I was dehydrated. My family laughed off the situation when I tried to repeat information most of them had already heard from my aunt, who bought the glucose monitor: "it could be something else."
I highly doubt that I have diabetes despite experiencing every symptom known for it simply because I had fasted by mistake for 24 hours and didn't show symptoms of the onset of a seizure. I knew what feelings to look for, so I pushed my limits.
Personally, I would love to be able to have disability insurance so that my father could be supported in some way without my accidental fall back into VP shunt issues that could cause me to have seizures at the wheel and kill myself or whoever is accompanying me in the vehicle.
My sister and I have pretty poor eyesight, which is also a great concern.
Medical records are needed as evidence for disability insurance, and I'm not sure if that could be produced. There is a high chance for rejection.
I've been trying to meditate at night or day-depending on whether I'm on a diurnal or nocturnal schedule-but falling asleep is much easier these days that in the past and my kitten and puppy make a lot of noise in their kennels.
I hope that all of you have been having a nice day. <3
RE: Meditation - Dani - 05-05-2014
During meditation yesterday morning, I felt a sensation that resembled light pinching in various places around my head along with drainage of CSF through my shunt. Undoubtedly, there was a minor blockage; I'm not sure if it's still present, but at least it's reduced.
My bedroom was rearranged in order to create space, much like what meditation has done for me. Now, my mind can "breathe" more than before.
I made a sandwich completely out of vegetables (except for the bread, of course), which was awesome with a side dish of an avocado, celery, raisins, cranberries, and peanuts. Certainly, that was less filling than a sandwich with meat, but I enjoyed it nonetheless!
I have two intelligent pets. They're proving that they're learning well day by day. >^.^< U^.^U
RE: Meditation - Unbound - 05-07-2014
Breathe breathing breath.
RE: Meditation - Steppingfeet - 05-07-2014
Dear Dani,
What you experience sounds difficult, to say the least. I can only imagine the sometimes nightmarish qualities some of your moments must exhibit.
The person closest to me in the world has a host of - what thus far has been - chronic (but fortunately not 24/7) health difficulties. Many times have we been together in the hospital; many times I have witnessed the whole gamut of her suffering: from seemingly unbearable physical pain, to the guilt and sense of being a burden to those she loves, to feelings of being lost and hopeless, to the desire for the cessation of the incarnation as a means of pain-relief, to being confused about the "why" question, to feeling worn down and beaten, to a host of other turbulent emotions. One sometimes questions the intelligence behind this third-density design.
I don’t have the wisdom to know what is cause and what is effect in her case, but having witnessed both her mental and bodily patterns, I suspect a strong linkage between mind and body. (And who knows to what degree the spirit complex plays a role.)
I wonder at times to what extent the beliefs she holds about herself – especially those that pertain to self-worth and self-acceptance – manifest in her body. Again, I don’t Sherlock the cause for her (primarily because I don’t know), but the relationship between mind and body in her case seems very closely related.
And this echoes an idea repeated many times in the Confederation philosophy:
81.14 Ra: The body is the creature of the mind and is the instrument of manifestation for the fruits of mind and spirit. Therefore, you may see the body as providing the athanor through which the alchemist manifests gold.
A shunt is a shunt, of course, and is a physical item creating perhaps, as you surmise, very physical problems. But the shunt may not be the whole of the difficulty. Judging by some of your posting, it seems that there are deeply unloving/unaccepting/self-rejecting perceptions you hold about yourself that may play a strong role in this catalyst, and may need greater reflection.
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One thing that came to my mind while reading your posting to this thread regards your relationship with your family. I may be mistaken, but it seems like your inner experience desperately needs communicated to those closest to you. (In post #69 you conveyed as much.) It seems that in your desire not to be a burden to those with their own pre-existing heavy weight to carry, you bottle up a lot.
I think it can be a noble thing to keep your own suffering uncommunicated out of consideration for others, but only if that can be done in a balanced way. By your accounting, it sounds like you are being eaten up inside by keeping it all to yourself. (Hopefully this thread has served as a healthy outlet.) It sounds like keeping it to yourself increases the internal pressure, and confuses/muddies the dynamic of the family situation.
*If* that is the case, then perhaps you can find a way to share your experience.
18.5 Ra: All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.
Some ideas that come to mind that might maximize the success of such a venture: perhaps you could schedule a time for your family to be together to share in-person, or choose a harmonious setting (say, a walk if you’re able to walk sufficiently, or in a nearby park, etc.), or whatever else you may do to enhance the set and setting. (Or maybe you could write a letter if being in-person is not an option.)
You could convey that you’re not looking for any particular response, or any particular action in reply, but that, first and foremost, you just need to share your catalyst, you just need to be heard. (Fully recognizing, of course, that they, too, have struggles.) That alone can help lighten the load you carry and create new space for love and light to shine into your experience, and open the window for creative ways to relate to your experience. It is okay to share, Dani. It is okay to have struggles. Your experience is legitimate.
You can convey the difficulty of your experience in a calm, even way, if possible, communicating that you have fears without letting fear grip you; communicating that you have doubts without being overwhelmed by doubt in your presentation; communicating that you have challenges without devolving into hysterics, etc.
Perhaps, even, you could establish a modality whereby you have family meetings so that each family member simply can speak honestly of their experience while the others listen in a mindful, receptive, supportive, loving atmosphere. Perhaps a healing atmosphere can be created for everyone in the house through this or similar means.
55.2 Ra: I am Ra. We scan this instrument and find its distortion towards appreciation of each entity and each entity’s caring, as you may call it. This atmosphere, shall we say, offers the greatest contrast to the discomfort of such psychic attacks, being the reciprocal, that is, the atmosphere of psychic support.
This each of you do as a subconscious function of true attitudinal, mental, emotional, and spiritual distortions towards this instrument. There is no magic greater than honest distortion toward love.
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I know nothing of shunts, but as it seems yours is a source of great difficulty, are you able to go to a doctor on your own to have the situation reviewed? If it requires the consent/help of a family member, could you ask them to assist you?
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Also, have you considered regressive hypnosis as a means of self-discovery? It has proven a powerful mechanism for many people to get to the core of present difficulties, not just to access the seed ideas from which stem present suffering, but to process the trauma/blockage, love accept and forgive it, integrate it, and become healed.
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Finally, I agree with isis in that I think there is something to be said for simple perseverance and endurance. Not, precisely, that we should suffer now for future reward, but rather that there is value in *using* suffering to develop strength of character and sheer GRIT. Not “using” it with some kind of master plan as to what you will do with suffering, but using it by simply enduring: not giving up, not losing faith, not giving in to hopeleness and despair, and not relinquishing the relentless, day-by-day attempt to seek the light and open the heart to forgiveness of self and others.
Your suffering has meaning and purpose, Dani. It alerts you to the work that needs to be undertaken; it calls you forward on your path; it motivates your seeking of healing. And endless though it may seem to be, it represents one small chapter in a book that stretches on far, far beyond the limits of what you or I can conceive.
You are capable of doing this work. You wanted to do this work. You have friends along the way.
All love and light to you, Dani,
GLB
PS: I offer this only in a spirit of food for thought – I am not a trained healer or psychologist, just a seeker stumbling his own way through the darkness. Please ignore my words if they don’t ring something inside of you or offer potentially new leads for your investigation.
RE: Meditation - isis - 05-07-2014
(05-07-2014, 11:32 AM)Bring4th_GLB Wrote: Your suffering has meaning and purpose, Dani.
note to dani: the meaning & purpose behind the suffering is the brownie points, trust me
note to zm: imo, a romantic notion is a good notion
[split] Cognitive Distortions and Forum Relationships - Steppingfeet - 05-07-2014
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(03-09-2014, 10:49 PM)zenmaster Wrote: bullshit. you dont get a medal from not being able to accept yourself. the notion is nonsense and pathetic.
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RE: Meditation - isis - 05-07-2014
this post is also not one of them:
(03-10-2014, 11:58 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Look, the romantic notion of suffering being somehow virtuous is plain stupid.
RE: Meditation - Melissa - 05-07-2014
Well, I wish someone would have said it to me years ago. Because I too believed that it had purpose and meaning but it is an utterly false and; more importantly; detrimental belief that will only -only- perpetuate suffering. Which should never be encouraged by any positive connotations. I really think we should just stop buying to these incredibly unnecessary, harmful beliefs.
RE: Meditation - Steppingfeet - 05-07-2014
82.22 "Questioner: Then since the only possibility at this particular time, as I see it, was a polarization for service to others, I must assume from what you said that even though all were aware of this service-to-others necessity they were unable to achieve it. What was the configuration of mind of the mind/body/spirit complexes at that time? Were they aware of the necessity for the polarization or unaware of it? And if so, why did they have such a difficult time serving others to the extent necessary for graduation since this was the only polarity possible?
Ra: I am Ra. Consider, if you will, the tendency of those who are divinely happy, as you call this distortion, to have little urge to alter or better their condition. Such is the result of the mind/body/spirit which is not complex. There is the possibility of love of other-selves and service to other-selves, but there is the overwhelming awareness of the Creator in the self. The connection with the Creator is that of the umbilical cord. The security is total. Therefore, no love is terribly important; no pain terribly frightening; no effort, therefore, is made to serve for love or to benefit from fear."
RE: Meditation - Melissa - 05-07-2014
Happiness, to me, means to be free from suffering, not from pain; as it is inevitable.
RE: Meditation - Jeremy - 05-07-2014
(05-07-2014, 05:20 PM)Melissa Wrote: Happiness, to me, means to be free from suffering, not from pain; as it is inevitable.
But happiness is only temporary which is why suffering will inevitably be reintroduced. This is why Ra and those of the confederacy stress the importance of joy over happiness. Also to be free from suffering would as Gary listed, negate the learning environment that is needed to progress. This kinda goes back to the Buddhist belief that suffering is an integral aspect of ones existence. Through suffering, one can then recognize and truly appreciate it's opposite which is joy, not happiness
RE: Meditation - Steppingfeet - 05-07-2014
Eckhart Tolle on Suffering:
"True freedom and the end of suffering is living in such a way as if you had completely chosen whatever you feel or experience at this moment.
This inner alignment with Now is the end of suffering. Is suffering really necessary? Yes and no.
If you had not suffered as you have, there would be no depth to you as a human being, no humility, no compassion. You would not be reading this now. Suffering cracks open the shell of ego, and then comes a point when it has served its purpose.
Suffering is necessary until you realize it is unnecessary."
RE: Meditation - isis - 05-07-2014
(05-07-2014, 04:51 PM)Melissa Wrote: Well, I wish someone would have said it to me years ago. Because I too believed that it had purpose and meaning but it is an utterly false and; more importantly; detrimental belief that will only -only- perpetuate suffering. Which should never be encouraged by any positive connotations. I really think we should just stop buying to these incredibly unnecessary, harmful beliefs.
am i correct in assuming u're aware it's your *opinion* that believing suffering can have "purpose & meaning" is "utterly false" & "incredibly unnecessary" & "harmful" & a "detrimental belief that will only -only- perpetuate suffering"?
i, wholeheartedly, disagree with your opinion
imo, what doesn't kill u makes u stronger. the purpose & meaning of the suffering very well could be in order to cause 1 to get as strong as 1 wants to be...& it's as simple as that. i think it's a positive, & likely, possibility
RE: Meditation - Melissa - 05-07-2014
Well, I disagree with the Buddhist and mister Tolle. With all due respect, but suffering has not cracked me open, self-love and acceptance has. What will you say to your kids, "No, you have to go through a long cycle of rejecting your true self first, so you will suffer because it teaches you well?" We can't avoid pain but even that can be as fleeting as joy/happiness, given the circumstances you're creating for yourself. Life itself already provides a great variety of experiences/emotions, suffering is not an almighty learning tool, it's just a byproduct of negligence.
What makes me wonder is why you'd want to hold on to these kind of beliefs?
RE: Meditation - Jeremy - 05-07-2014
(05-07-2014, 06:21 PM)Melissa Wrote: Well, I disagree with the Buddhist and mister Tolle. With all due respect, but suffering has not cracked me open, self-love and acceptance has. What will you say to your kids, "No, you have to go through a long cycle of rejecting your true self first, so you will suffer because it teaches you well?" We can't avoid pain but even that can be as fleeting as joy/happiness, given the circumstances you're creating for yourself. Life itself already provides a great variety of experiences/emotions, suffering is not an almighty learning tool, it's just a byproduct of negligence.
What makes me wonder is why you'd want to hold on to these kind of beliefs?
But if you hadn't gone through what you have, how do you know you would have come to this self love and acceptance? That's where the beauty of suffering lies. While one is neck deep in s***, one can't see the forest for the trees. But once one rises above and sees that light at the end of the tunnel, one can then truly appreciate what one has gone through to be where they are.
I am, without a doubt, overjoyed at what I have found after the hell that I have gone through. If I hadn't, I highly doubt I would have ever come to the point that I am.
RE: Meditation - reeay - 05-07-2014
I have learned a lot about understanding & accepting self from all the catalysts, psychological baggages, and drama queen suffering boohoo-ness that I've indulged in. Had someone told me, you don't need to do that, you just need to accept --- I'd be like, thanks, let me figure it out for myself bc I value independence in figuring things out myself. Would think it's slightly more effective to follow the person's distortion and allowing them to figuring out how to work with 'suffering'. From my experience, having faith in their ability to figure things out for themselves and reflecting back to them, their strengths actually goes a long way than saying what others need to do or are lacking or doing wrong.
RE: Meditation - Melissa - 05-08-2014
(05-07-2014, 06:29 PM)Jeremy Wrote:(05-07-2014, 06:21 PM)Melissa Wrote: Well, I disagree with the Buddhist and mister Tolle. With all due respect, but suffering has not cracked me open, self-love and acceptance has. What will you say to your kids, "No, you have to go through a long cycle of rejecting your true self first, so you will suffer because it teaches you well?" We can't avoid pain but even that can be as fleeting as joy/happiness, given the circumstances you're creating for yourself. Life itself already provides a great variety of experiences/emotions, suffering is not an almighty learning tool, it's just a byproduct of negligence.
What makes me wonder is why you'd want to hold on to these kind of beliefs?
But if you hadn't gone through what you have, how do you know you would have come to this self love and acceptance? That's where the beauty of suffering lies. While one is neck deep in s***, one can't see the forest for the trees. But once one rises above and sees that light at the end of the tunnel, one can then truly appreciate what one has gone through to be where they are.
I am, without a doubt, overjoyed at what I have found after the hell that I have gone through. If I hadn't, I highly doubt I would have ever come to the point that I am.
I highly doubt you need suffering to see yourself in that light. If I'd remove all suffering from my life, looking back, there still would be enough s*** to deal with, but I wouldn't have continued sitting in it as long as I have. Because I thought it was a 'good' thing, or I deserved it, or that it's noble; since everyone I knew was suffering, or that the more I'd suffer the more people would love me, be proud of me, value me, or.. Well, these were some of my driving forces behind it. It's all based on my experience, I don't believe it's necessary but that's something we all have to decide for ourselves.