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RE: Illusions, illusions... - AnthroHeart - 01-30-2014
By sacrifice on an energetic level, I meant that I put a lot of time into creating a mental construct of the ideal world that I desired. I spent a lot of energy and time creating anthros in my mind, trying to make them as real as possible. Then I was willing to give that all up in order that Creator could take what I had done and make it real for sure. I thought Creator could take what I had created in my mind, and make it real. This was sacrificing what I had created on an energetic level.
(01-30-2014, 10:10 PM)Tanner Wrote: What do mean by sacrifice on an energetic level?
RE: Illusions, illusions... - Fastidious Emanations - 01-30-2014
isnt that expectation and defeat?
RE: Illusions, illusions... - Unbound - 01-30-2014
(01-30-2014, 10:19 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: By sacrifice on an energetic level, I meant that I put a lot of time into creating a mental construct of the ideal world that I desired. I spent a lot of energy and time creating anthros in my mind, trying to make them as real as possible. Then I was willing to give that all up in order that Creator could take what I had done and make it real for sure. I thought Creator could take what I had created in my mind, and make it real. This was sacrificing what I had created on an energetic level.
(01-30-2014, 10:10 PM)Tanner Wrote: What do mean by sacrifice on an energetic level?
I still do not entirely know what you mean, what exactly did you sacrifice, the mental constructs?
RE: Illusions, illusions... - Parsons - 01-31-2014
(01-30-2014, 10:19 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: By sacrifice on an energetic level, I meant that I put a lot of time into creating a mental construct of the ideal world that I desired. I spent a lot of energy and time creating anthros in my mind, trying to make them as real as possible. Then I was willing to give that all up in order that Creator could take what I had done and make it real for sure. I thought Creator could take what I had created in my mind, and make it real. This was sacrificing what I had created on an energetic level.
(01-30-2014, 10:10 PM)Tanner Wrote: What do mean by sacrifice on an energetic level?
My friend, the Creator not only created everything that exists, but the Creator is everything is that exists. There is nothing outside of Us. You are the Creator as well, of course. So your creation is every bit as valid as any other creation, including the planet we share. You may not be experiencing your creation in a tangible way (yet), but that does not mean it isn't real. There is no reason to sacrifice anything. If it is very important to you, you will experience your creation on another level.
RE: Illusions, illusions... - zenmaster - 01-31-2014
Translation: it doesn't matter because we can make up any frame we want in a universe of infinite possibilities.
RE: Illusions, illusions... - AnthroHeart - 01-31-2014
(01-30-2014, 11:54 PM)Tanner Wrote:(01-30-2014, 10:19 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: By sacrifice on an energetic level, I meant that I put a lot of time into creating a mental construct of the ideal world that I desired. I spent a lot of energy and time creating anthros in my mind, trying to make them as real as possible. Then I was willing to give that all up in order that Creator could take what I had done and make it real for sure. I thought Creator could take what I had created in my mind, and make it real. This was sacrificing what I had created on an energetic level.
(01-30-2014, 10:10 PM)Tanner Wrote: What do mean by sacrifice on an energetic level?
I still do not entirely know what you mean, what exactly did you sacrifice, the mental constructs?
Yes, the mental constructs that took me 100's of hours to form. I was like willing to give them up. But now I realize I didn't sacrifice anything.
RE: Illusions, illusions... - Raz - 01-31-2014
Sacrifice is an illusion, nothing is ever lost, that is just a very persistent delusion... at least in the experience I choose to trust...
RE: Illusions, illusions... - Infinite Unity - 06-02-2019
(01-29-2014, 09:11 PM)xise Wrote:(01-29-2014, 03:22 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(01-29-2014, 03:13 PM)michael430 Wrote: Perhaps the highest catalyst you wanted for yourself before you got here was to accept the fact that this illusion is all you should see and know this time. Did you hear mocking laughter to see if it would upset and anger you? If in a more balanced state would you have heard it as the happy blissful laughter of a child or close friend ?Sort of. When Ra says "interpretation of catalyst" they mean when information is otherwise lacking and some viewpoint is called for to frame a situation. If you are upset or angry, then your projection model isn't effectively serving you in the first place. If you misinterpret actual mocking as blissful laughter when that is not actually present, that is also unbalanced.
Total agreement.
This concept of positive and negative interpretation of catalyst typically comes up in my everyday conversations with otherwise non-spiritual people interested in spirituality. They often see "positive thinking" as interpreting something as positive by disregarding harmful or uncomfortable facts.
I.E., When a person in a relationship decides to 'think positively' and ignore signs that their significant other is cheating (coming home late or not at all, secretive texting, see them flirt excessively with others in front of you, avoiding you, missing condoms, we can generate a more and more obvious list, but you get the point etc).
I see the positive interpretation of catalyst in such a situation where numerous factors that strong suggest your significant other is cheating on you as not sticking your head in the sand, but instead, acknowledging first that there is a substantial chance that they are cheating on you. Then, find reasons as to why this can become a positive thing (how it can teach you about certain concepts, perhaps about self-empowerment and self-respect, or self-love if you decide to leave the relationship, or perhaps if you try to reconcile and are successful then about forgiveness). It is also proper to hold out a small possibility you are mistaken, but one must ponder catalyst in all of its potential forms since the total situation in this reality is never 100% solidified (typically).
True balance, and true positive interpretation, in my opinion, is acknowledging the factors that make your experience painful, but finding a way to transform the experience into one that teaches you about love, as represented by the concepts entailed in the seven rays.
Hey brother, usually I just hit the like button, when I read a relatively good post. However, this was an exceedingly good post. I also find that most people think that positive thinking, to be a far off whimsical day dream. Filled mostly with ignoring certain aspects in favor, of recognizing only the favorable aspects. The way you explained that actually, truly balanced positive interpretation, with consciously being aware of the aspects that are actually painful, that are actually the unfavorable portions. Reaching within and beyond these cirucmstances and truly extracting the heart of the matter. The direction of always learning and moving more deeply into, out to unity.
My main paradigm is just that, not that there is one substantial aspect that defines the creation: such as light. Or that an idealogical thinking guide my life. But rather an open heart, ready for the next experience, always seeing the mirroric catalyst as a way to expand, grow and come to know the inner true self.